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Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks
Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing
TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.
I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...
Hi
i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
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Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.
ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.
Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
diomark said:
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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try this to set up your fav. default
http://www.mm.pl/~xoen/SIPChange.CAB
hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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I know you can disable it - mine is disabled.. I just wish the auto-correct was a bit easier to disable/enable on demand...
i.e. when I'm typing a URL, I don't need autocorrect (in fact 9 times out of 10 it gets in the way and I have to tell it to revert..).. but it's helpful for fast sms messages...
-m
thank god for pcm keyboard.
I just updated pocket cm, so still reviewing.
there is a sipchange app to set default the keyboard.
hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
You can actually make the program behave that way by creating a settings file. However, by doing this it will take up most if not all of the screen
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
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I dont like the fact that when ever I get a text message Pocket CM opens, I'd prefer just to have the normal notification... anyone know how to stop this - Also the whole loading previous conversations is way to looong!
I think I'd be happier if it were a contact manager and not a content manager.
I like the slickness of this program - Very good - waiting for the next release!
I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
How can i uninstall the default keyboard??
can't unless you could edit the ROM which I wish I knew how to do, and if I could I'd take it out too. The best thing to do is to change the default keyboard using SKTools. And if that does not satisfy, use Advance Configuration tool and it can disable the keyboard from automatically opening when you tap on a text field.
Till now I've been using the HD2's standard HTC keyboard as SIP, as I haven't found anything I was really satisfied with.
Until yesterday I installed Resco Keyboard Pro 6 Beta, which is just fantastic (read about it elsewhere in the forum). Perfect for HD2.
But now, I've discovered that a number of my apps changes the SIP back to standard HTC when I open them. Resco's option to make its keyboard the default SIP does work. After soft-reset, it's still the default SIP in most programs.
So I tried installing Fingerkeyboard, SPB Keyboard, etc, just to make sure it wasn't Resco's fault (as it's a beta version anyway...). The same happened with all the other 3rd party keyboards.
Is there anyway to prevent apps from changing the SIP? It's driving me crazy, have to manually switch back to Resco everytime I open those stupid apps (which I depend on at work ) Thank you in advance.
Use XDA google search and look for a programme/cab file called sipchange.
Install it then select the keyboard type you want as your default; problem solved.
WB
Not that simple, I'm afraid. My problem is not how to set Resco as the default keyboard after SR. Get that already with Resco's own inbuilt option. Then I tried using both SIPChange and default_IM_WM5.cab. It still happens, some of my apps changes the keyboard back to standard when executed (and it is not about setting the delay in SIPChange, I'm talking about after all the processes during SR).
That's strange. Never had this problem with Sipchange installed.
You are certain that you have set your preferred default keyboard via the sipchange utility? That's how you get the keyboard you want to boot up after a SR.
If yes then not sure what else to suggest.
WB
Hi, I am having the same problem. One example of such software is Lingvosoft, when you hit search key, the keyboard pop opens, but with default keyboard, even after using sipchange.
I was thinking maybe there's a way to disable the standard HTC keyboards all together through the reg. But that's asking for trouble/hard-reset
What to do...
I think the problem is that using SIPChange, DefaultIM.cab, nueSIPdefault, etc, none of these really changes the value of "defaultim" at controlpanel\sip. It remains with the standard keyboard's CLSID.
I'm really tempted to change this value to Resco's, but reading around here in this forum shows a lot of people having big trouble afterwards messing with this value (mainly because they used the wrong CLSID?) and required a hard-reset...