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Are there any progaram like the taksman in XP that can display which running application using how many % of CPU?
Yes, try this task manager.
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
It also shows CPU usage.
try this app:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=5367
it is awesome...and looks impressive to your mates
phm taskmanager has the look and feel of Windows
Phm task manager is a good app but not wm5 compatible.
Moreover this app allows to hard reset your device, which is very dangerous. A hard reset will clear all your RAM.
I wish PHilippe Majerus (the fantastic developer) will update his app.
Hi Cizake,
I use phm on my wizard, and I didn't notice any problem. What makes you say it's not WM5 compatible?
phm task manager was released almost 5 years ago.
CPU accuracy is by far not accurate and I have checked it using several other apps. OMAP runs differently then other CPU.
Killing a process will cause a soft reset almost anytime - for example terminating poutlook.exe will crash your device. It does not happen when using more up to date tasks manager.
I dont have the same number of running processes on PHM as I have on other apps- why? maybe because of hidden files not showing on phm, but I am not sure.
I invite you to read some comments here on strange behaviour with WM5 :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=480
It's in french but I guess it's not a problem for you
WOWO Thanks everyone
Hi,
there is an freeware application from AximSite written by DogFood.
It has a neat power and/or ram status as a 1 pixel liner on top and display CPU usage monitor on the bottom 1 pixel line.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=96798&highlight=dogfood
Regards,
Hon
cizake said:
CPU accuracy is by far not accurate and I have checked it using several other apps. OMAP runs differently then other CPU
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Thanks for your input, I was not aware of this. I checked the forum you mentioned. You're right it was not too much of a problem for me :lol:
As for the bug concerning the process tab not showing up, I found a bypass. If you activate your SIP while on PHM, then the process tab appears. Strange beahaviour but I can live with it.
Anyway, I guess you're right maybe there are better apps for WM5. But I like PhM's apps because they are small and well to the point of what they are intended for. Like PHM Regedit !
Posted here
Here is the monitor from the Aximsite, for those who don't want to register.....
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Thanks for your input, I was not aware of this.
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De rien!!
hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
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hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
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same to me. 10MB was the size of it. killing it makes the device freeze
don't kill gwes, it is a system process, stands for Graphics, Windowing and Events Subsystem.
i dunno why you get the memory leak, i don't. i always thought spb pocketplus is the culprit, but someone just claimed he had no leaks while using spb+. but give this a try if you happen to use it...
Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
I also use OxiosMemory and try to mitigate this by forcing the processes to release resources not in use, but that does not elimate this issue completely.
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Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
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no, the explanation is not this simple. i run the same wm5 as you and i dont have this problem.
cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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i leave these constantly running all the time:
magicbuttons
taskmgr v1.6 (from buzzdev)
uptime
also usually leave these running:
totalcommander
opera
messages (sms)
occasionally using:
iGO 2006
Netfront 3.3
PQZII
vijay's full terminal screen hack
ftpsrv
phm regedit
tre regedit
adobe acrobat
mobipocket
wmirc
softmaker textmaker (wow sucks why no real vga)
tcpmp 0.71
hope this helped what apps are you running?
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hope this helped what apps are you running?
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Thanks for that. What I run is quite a few and some are same as yours. The biggest difference is that I run Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Advance Desktop to skin the GUI.
The apps I am constantly running:
Wisbar Advance 2
Wisbar Advance Desktop
SEVEN (mobile push email)
ATOK (IME for Japanese language)
DefSIPChange (changes default SIP)
PQz
The apps I am running occasionally:
Backup and Restore
GSFinder
MemMaid
Oxios CloseApps
Oxios Hibernate
PHM RegEdit
JpegCapture
TCPMP
VeriChat
Warm Reboot
GB-SOFT Tweak
Pocket Tweak
I will have to check the ones I am constantly running to see if any of them is causing this problem but it could be the first two on the above list.
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
markbrudney said:
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
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hummm i didnt list the builtin apps but what i use from them is contacts, comm manager, PIE (very rarely), messages (only for sms), word... (sometimes the other office stuff too) would use calendar too but i always forget to note my todos in it
+ and i forgot to list nPOP (for emails) and a screenshot maker (magic something)..
anyway what you run doesn't sound too bad, if you really use no today plugins.. i got no idea.. what ROM version do you run?
The growth is because it caches icons (start menu - programs - settings) to speed up the display. At least that's my best guess!!!
hi
rom version:1.30.107 wwe
I did a soft reset today and gwes.exe went down to 4.22MB
I then ran only the wifi (comm manager) and gwes rose to 4.35MB
I ran it again after switching it off in settings/system/memory and it rose to 4.78MB
when I switched it off again in settings/system/memory it came down to 4.56MB but its obviously where the leak is.,because I didn't run anything else.
the problem is how do I stop it?
Hi all there,
same problem with my german VPA IV (Vodafone) even after several ROM upgrades (Jasjar, qtec, new vodafone ger) no changes of this strange behavior
I really hope, there's anybody out there, who can help us with this annoying thing.
This gwes.exe issue is experienced with WM2003SE as well. I found this in one of the threads in Windows Mobile Team Blog.
"With WM2003SE, I had issues like GWES.exe growing until I ran out of RAM. So, I purchased WM5, hoping the repurposed strata flash and new OS would resolve the issues."
You can also refer to below for gwes.exe in detail.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ui5/html/wce50conshellanduserinterface146.asp
Someone was saying earlier in this thread that gwes.exe caches icons. That might be true but may not be just icons and that explains why gwes.exe grows. Or, it might be that some apps you are running are causing memory leak but that is not easy to spot on.
A workaround to this I use and can recommend to anyone having this problem is Oxios Memory 1.40. It's free!
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
One of its apps is Oxios Hibernate. WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system.
I normally run this whenever the free memory space gets low like down to 15MB before my device gets unstable. I normally gain quite a bit by reducing the sizes of gwes.exe and all other processes running are occupying and that I don't have to reboot my device everyday. Check the size of gwes.exe with MemMaid before and after you run this and you will notice how effective it is. :roll:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
markbrudney said:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
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Maybe that gwes.exe did not have any resource to release at the point you ran Oxios Hibernate and it was already close to the bare bones. Try running Oxios CloseApps as well as Oxios Hibernate. CloseApps closes processes running in the background and that releases the memory used by those.
You do get some memory back by running Hibernate multiple times but the actual amount you get back is very small after the first run although the dialogue may say it is like 2 to 3MB released every time. I am not sure why this is but I think it is no use running it multiple times. Just run it once or twice a day when you find that the free memory is low.
As I wrote in the earlier post, Oxios Memory is just a workaround I found. It does not eliminate the problem completely and the memory resources used by the processes running will never go down to the level of right after the reboot of the device. I experienced that gwes.exe gradually grows in several days to the point when I need to reboot my device even with running Hibernate from time to time. It's just that I don't need to reboot it like everyday.
thanks harry
thank you very much
hey i had the same problem that is mentioned here....
i was running spb pocket plus when i noticed this....
now with ilauncher and spb diary i have around 25 mb at start up and hardly if any memory leak....
with ilauncher alone i have around 27.5 mb
also some software have been updated like pocket informant webis mail..my experience with them shows me that they have next to no memory leak...
what i have noticed is that applications which are not designed for wm5 have terrible leak....case in point....girders which i a game with simple graphics leaves me with only 9 mb when i exit the app...while with skyforce 1.22 (wm5) the leak is hardly 100-200kb
you could try htcAddicts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490
it seems to be more powerful than Oxios
Is there a utility for WM5 that would show me process/memory consumption per process, display a graph of memory available maybe, show CPU used etc. something like taskmanager or processexplorer for PC desktops?
Here is RhinoStats.. its a Today screen plugin that shows a graph of cpu speed and mem usage
If you to see it per process, I just you use DinarSoft Memiad. Works great, I use it, its more than process viewer, its a junk cleaner, and registry scanner.
Here's the link to it.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279
If you to see it per process, I just you use DinarSoft Memiad. Works great, I use it, its more than process viewer, its a junk cleaner, and registry scanner.
Here's the link to it.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279
If you want a freeware one every bit as good as MemMaid try TaskManager v1.3 from FDCSoft:
http://buzzdev.net/component/option...view/id,15027/catid,27/limit,15/limitstart,0/
Hi!
On my universal: I
* installed phm task manager (and some other applications)
* reset my universal
* startet phm task manager
* selected the processes tab
* scroll down to "Image Name": "device.exe"
* have a look at "threads" and see
permantly changing numbers about/between 127 and 130 Threads!
What the heck is this? :shock:
CPU Time is about 12 hours. O.k. this is not the one with the most CPU Time. (Maximum CPU Time of other "Image Name"s like "filesys" and "gwes" with about 11 threads is about 24 hours. And "services.exe" has about 8 hours and the next maximum of 24 threads.)
But still maybe the reason for this is also the reason why my universal often is painfully slow??? (Out of "resources" or something like that?) :?
Does everybody have this? Even with other devices than universal?
Device, gwes and services are files that help run the OS.
They may be loading a load of crap, that's OEM or user specific, but those three support files run the system and are supposed to be there. Don't close them.
V
Thx, V. Would never do that ;-)
Hello Chefs, this is my first post in the Chef area. I have been a member for quite some time and have enjoyed ROM's from many Chefs across several platforms.
To my question. I have begun cooking with OSKitchen (thanks for that btw!). I have successfully picked apart the leaked TILT 2 rom with Sense 2.5 and removed pretty much ALL of the AT&T add on with the exception of the theme.
As I have worked on customizing the ROM I have added in several features that I liked. Recent calls, manila TV, facebook tabs.... Im about to try the doc indexer/readers etc.. One item in particular is the HTC Task Manager. It was in my favorite ROM (from my sig) and I really like the compact size and functionality + LOW footprint(or so I thought).
It took a while to find a CAB that worked in 2.5 in the end I found one named: HTC_TASK_MANAGER_2_1_3 etc.... that said it was functional in 2.5
I made an EXT out of it and it worked with a little reg file updating. It reported about 92MB Free and I was thrilled as RAM = better/smoother performance on this older device. The only problem I was having with it was that the text was black on a dark grey. I turned to the ROM I had been using and pulled out all the same files and reg entries that existed in it as were in my package as it was white on grey text. I replaced them in the EXT package and recompiled the ROM. Voila! White text on Grey.
Now to the problem. Suddenly I am seeing about 75MB RAM Free (pretty much what I see when using teh chefs ROM). So now I start comparing the two.
No task manager in the ROM I see 92MB Free under Settings -> System -> Memory. I install the cab for task manager I found manually on top of the ROM, 92 MB free. I copy over the other chefs files and it doesnt work now. I recompile with the updated task manager from the other ROM and 75MB free?!
ALL this time I have been comparing to the memory tool under Settings --> System --> Memory and they agree 100%. They are the same program opened either from the system menu or the task manager I realize (or they at least appear to be the same. I do not seem to be replacing any files in the ROM so my question is simple. Is there a known issue with HTC Task manager and incorrectly reporting RAM? Due to the agreement in memory used I am inclined to believe that it is the Task manager itself that is USING the ram (15MB is ridiculous I know) but what other explanation is there if it is not wrong?!
Any thoughts or input from the seasones chefs would be appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. Yes I searched. There were about 5 hits on HTC Task Manager and none had to do with memory.
There's never anything about htc packages that is 'low footprint' imo. They usually have hundreds of files when 2 would do the job. How many files are in that package? 100? Seriously, there are far better task managers out there than HTC's. I recommend using XTask. It has four files, totalling maybe 100 kb, and it has much more funtionality than htc's TM.
Seriously, just look at a typical HTC Long Press End-Key package. It's about 200 files just to allow you to lock your device or do maybe two other things. That's the HTC way.
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There's never anything about htc packages that is 'low footprint' imo. They usually have hundreds of files when 2 would do the job. How many files are in that package? 100? Seriously, there are far better task managers out there than HTC's. I recommend using XTask. It has four files, totalling maybe 100 kb, and it has much more funtionality than htc's TM.
Seriously, just look at a typical HTC Long Press End-Key package. It's about 200 files just to allow you to lock your device or do maybe two other things. That's the HTC way.
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It has 50 files, most images 3 language files and 2 exes and 2 dll's.
Edit: So I added your suggested task manager and it agrees with the older taskman 94MB free however it flickers at the top regularly
I don't know why xtask is flickering, but I suspect that it is puking over the fact that it has to live in the same device as the crappy htc task manager. Try cooking in xtask. There isn't much to making a package-just put the two .exe's straight into windows (as well as the 2 mui's), then put in a reg file for xtask (HKLM\Software\XTask), and either a shortcut in startup for xhook.exe or a reg key in HKLM\init (what I do). My guess is that you're getting flickering because the two task managers are fighting over the task bar.
Fifty files for a lightweight task manager that doesn't do a whole hell of a lot is ridiculous. I'm actually surprised it's only fifty files, though.
Edit: an init key looks like this; launch it near the end of the queue, and test out before cooking.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Launch130"="XHook.exe"
Farmer Ted said:
I don't know why xtask is flickering, but I suspect that it is puking over the fact that it has to live in the same device as the crappy htc task manager. Try cooking in xtask. There isn't much to making a package-just put the two .exe's straight into windows (as well as the 2 mui's), then put in a reg file for xtask (HKLM\Software\XTask), and either a shortcut in startup for xhook.exe or a reg key in HKLM\init (what I do). My guess is that you're getting flickering because the two task managers are fighting over the task bar.
Fifty files for a lightweight task manager that doesn't do a whole hell of a lot is ridiculous. I'm actually surprised it's only fifty files, though.
Edit: an init key looks like this; launch it near the end of the queue, and test out before cooking.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Launch130"="XHook.exe"
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I removed the HTC Task manager before trying it and reflashed. To tell the truth I have probably flashed 30-40 times in the last 3 days. It flickers when I add the Memory status display. I don't intent to leave it up forever but just commenting that it flickers.
Here is the link to comparison of 4 TaskManagers http://www.xda-developers.com/windo...rison-mmtaskmanager-showcase-arkswitch-xtask/
Personally i use ShowCase without problems.
af974 said:
Here is the link to comparison of 4 TaskManagers http://www.xda-developers.com/windo...rison-mmtaskmanager-showcase-arkswitch-xtask/
Personally i use ShowCase without problems.
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I got that package too, I may give it a whirl. I used to use it.
hx4700 Killer said:
I removed the HTC Task manager before trying it and reflashed. To tell the truth I have probably flashed 30-40 times in the last 3 days. It flickers when I add the Memory status display. I don't intent to leave it up forever but just commenting that it flickers.
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Yeah, I don't use the memory notification; I've got a today plugin that shows available RAM. It may flicker due to the task manager refresh cycle, or something like that. I personally just don't like the looks of it on the task bar.
So oddly... here is what is going on that I have tested on this.
If I Cook In the HTC task manager that I have it works fine. If I replace taskserv.dll (in my EXT Package) from ROM I got it from that makes the text white the way I want it to be and cook that ROM up the memory is reports as 75MB Free rather than 94MB free I got with the original DLL.
So now to the really odd part. I can cook in the stock EXT Package I made with the DLL that reports 94MB Free on boot up, copy over it with the one that makes the text white and reboot. Now I have white text and it still says 94 MB Free.... WTF?
I am trying showcase now, I am familiar with that and there are some things I am not crazy about on X-Button (although it is quite nice).
I found this other taskmanager in my EXT folder ,guess it is from Xperia,feel free to try it.
It seems that Htc TaskManager has some problems, now i uderstand why it isnt activated by default in Stock Hd2 Rom lol.
I never check if i ever had your problem im my Rom but i noticed that with HTC TaskManager active Sense took long time to load, i switched immediatly to ShowCase lol.
af974 said:
I found this other taskmanager in my EXT folder ,guess it is from Xperia,feel free to try it.
It seems that Htc TaskManager has some problems, now i uderstand why it isnt activated by default in Stock Hd2 Rom lol.
I never check if i ever had your problem im my Rom but i noticed that with HTC TaskManager active Sense took long time to load, i switched immediatly to ShowCase lol.
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Wow, that one is very different from what I have. Might have to give it a go.
showcase was oddly flaky. I had to tap & hold at the top right, two menu buttons appeared. When I let go to go click one I got the notification window telling me battery status and any notifications etc...
I am by no means an expert on this. I am learning new things every day here.