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Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

**** turpin said:
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

giopirolli said:
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

Gajet said:
Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

TartanArmy said:
I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

Not Loving My HD2 [Back to ROM 1.48] SMS Hotfix Doesn't Work

Just a quickie to share my joy at my HTC HD2 that I now feel is the phone that should have been released way back 4 weeks ago.
I've recently upgraded to ROM 1.61 and the camera is fixed, the SMS sending issue has disappeared [both fixes have been released recently], its phenomenally fast, screen lock is working, installed programmes are great, various tweaks and cabs supplied by the fab community here work flawlessly [the ones I've installed anyway lol]
It seems to be fitting together quite nicely now.
Fingers crossed for an exciting future with my HD2!!!!!!
All those who agree say, "aye"!

I totally agree. Those people whining don't know what they are talking about, this device is the best of its kind out there, nothing can come close for me. I'm using a swype keyboard on my hd2 to write this message which has to be the best keyboard on a mobile device. It's just blazing fast to type with while looking so cool at the same time.

AYE!! (Although waiting for a decent radio)

ijob said:
Just a quickie to share my joy at my HTC HD2 that I now feel is the phone that should have been released way back 4 weeks ago.
I've recently upgraded to ROM 1.61 and the camera is fixed, the SMS sending issue has disappeared [both fixes have been released recently], its phenomenally fast, screen lock is working, installed programmes are great, various tweaks and cabs supplied by the fab community here work flawlessly [the ones I've installed anyway lol]
It seems to be fitting together quite nicely now.
Fingers crossed for an exciting future with my HD2!!!!!!
All those who agree say, "aye"!
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i would say the sms problem ( time to load all the messages ) is still not fixed, right?

ijob said:
Just a quickie to share my joy at my HTC HD2 that I now feel is the phone that should have been released way back 4 weeks ago.
I've recently upgraded to ROM 1.61 and the camera is fixed, the SMS sending issue has disappeared [both fixes have been released recently], its phenomenally fast, screen lock is working, installed programmes are great, various tweaks and cabs supplied by the fab community here work flawlessly [the ones I've installed anyway lol]
It seems to be fitting together quite nicely now.
Fingers crossed for an exciting future with my HD2!!!!!!
All those who agree say, "aye"!
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Aye, man!
(Even though it would have been great to have HD2 at the 1.61 level from the very beginning. Wishful thinking, ain´t it? And I do still have the feeling that there is quite some room for improvements...)

also downloaded the new firmware. phone is running great now, battery life also seems much better than before. also just installed that swype keyboard. amazing!

I say nothing is fixed until there is an official release. HTC can't expect their customers to download rom's from XDA to get a device that works.

I agree, the 1.61 firmware is tops!

are you sure that you're finally satisfied?
You're not going to mention on how the edge of glass screen is too sharp and might cut your delicate fingers?
I'm glad you're enjoying it

Question is, when will 1.61 be officially released?! I'm a bit of a wuss, so i'm going to wait rather than install the leaked version. Can't wait for it though! Just to set my mind at ease regarding sms really. I haven't experienced the bug yet, but knowing it's been pre-emptively fixed (at least for me) would be lovely

_tangent said:
Question is, when will 1.61 be officially released?! I'm a bit of a wuss, so i'm going to wait rather than install the leaked version. Can't wait for it though! Just to set my mind at ease regarding sms really. I haven't experienced the bug yet, but knowing it's been pre-emptively fixed (at least for me) would be lovely
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Probably not too long, it was little over a week for the leaked 1.48 ROM to become official. If you're looking for a carrier specific ROM though expect to wait a little longer.
This is just my personal opinion though, I cannot vouch for HTC's time-scale.

agvar said:
I say nothing is fixed until there is an official release. HTC can't expect their customers to download rom's from XDA to get a device that works.
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100% agree!!!

If most ppl are really positive about it. They should release it officially. It is very strange to see 2 rom updates in couple weeks. Does HTC do that often?
Still very positive HTC is working hard to make it better.

Well i fully expect there to be bugs just like any new OS on any new device. The only thing is it take things like XDA to be beta testers, Android was beta for ages before there was even a device available for it.

omneity said:
Probably not too long, it was little over a week for the leaked 1.48 ROM to become official. If you're looking for a carrier specific ROM though expect to wait a little longer.
This is just my personal opinion though, I cannot vouch for HTC's time-scale.
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Nah not looking for a carrier specific one. I think my HTC is stock anyway. It's on t-mobile, but i bought it from mobiles.co.uk. The youtube ap is still there, along with everything else that should be, and there's zero branding.
I'll keep my fingers crossed

+1 to being a little wussy on the leaked ROM update
I've only owned my HD2 for about...4 days now, so still a little scared.
but i will admit i do see some annoying bugs with the keyboard and lock screen. So far pretty good with SMS though, nothing to report there.
Just curious (and i'm a noob), when HTC officially releases the 1.61 update, how do you go about doing it?
I woudlnt expect it to have tons of steps like XDA informs you to switch ROMS does it?
is it a simple double click , wait and update?
Also, will it clear everything (reset registry, delete all programs)?
Cause ive done a bunch of registry tweaks and installed various programs, so i guess that might be a bit frustrating..

I've not had any particular problems with mine in the few days I've had it, (and I really love it!) so is there likely to be any benefit to me to upgrade from 1.48 to 1.61?
Happy to do it if there is, but I don't want to have to start from scratch unless it offers some genuine fixes/improvements rather than just some subjective/perceived ones.
The last comments I'd been reading about 1.61 the other day seemed to indicate that it didn't really do/change anything but is that incorrect? If that's wrong then I don't mind flashing.
My only real complaints are this bloody problem with music stopping when you lock it (coreplayer), and the stupid hardware buttons causing you to lose phone calls when you take the phone out of your pocket to answer a call. It's infuriating.
I've got different screenlock related apps but am having a spot of bother finding one that simply locks the hardware keys only while the phone is on standby (ie not locked while awake), or more probably getting the correct setup on one of these apps to achieve that. Each time I've tried so far I've resulted in a phone that won't unlock at all, due to bing unsure of correct settings.
Anyone with clear & precise settings for a lock appthat will do this and not mess with loads of other stuff would be VERY welcome to comment!

@Cret : Well there is somehow a solution for this. You might want to try this out (unlesss you havent already read it...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596037&page=6
Have a look at Post 60
Greets

Bakedbread said:
+1 to being a little wussy on the leaked ROM update
I wouldn't expect it to have tons of steps like XDA informs you to switch ROMS does it?
is it a simple double click , wait and update?
Also, will it clear everything (reset registry, delete all programs)?
Cause ive done a bunch of registry tweaks and installed various programs, so i guess that might be a bit frustrating..
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Yes, a ROM upgrade is basically a click, wait and update. It also wipes the entire phone and resets registry settings.
Some of the radio-only ROM updates keep all settings intact but for if you're moving from 1.48 to 1.61, expect to have the phone wiped (I've never lost anything on the SD card during a ROM upgrade but most experts recommend to pull it out before you update.
That said - all is not lost for you. You can backup your contacts, calendar. SMS and other PIM data using "PIM Backup". This is a dummy proof program so don't hesitate to use it.
You can also restore your registry, HTC Sense settings and progs using "Sashimi" but I wouldn't recommend that if you're a noob. Then again, there's probably no better way to learn about the guts of your phone then slowly working through the "tons of steps" to get Sashimi to work!

When is 1.61 officially being released..........any idea ???

ROM 1.66

any good or bad comments for ROM 1.66?
is there any way to revert back to the old ROM 1.48 if i would like to?? appreciate if you could share..thanks!!

ROM 1.66 is much better than 1.43/8. It's faster, smoother and has less problems. Besides that, you do not need to install the earlier hoffixes,they are incorporated in 1.66. I use 1.66 now for more than 10 days and had no need to reset the device (except after installing new programs of course).
Hop that helps you in your choice. So, for your other question to revert to 1.48: no need to do that.

I agree with Kuzibri 1.66 is a very stable nice featured ROM which much improves the earpiece volume issue.

Another thread about 1.66 - that's very cool!

Got my HD2 2 weeks ago on a Tuesday that evening upgraded to ROM 1.66 not looked back. I have not encountered any of the problems that others spoke of when the HD2 first came out with earlier ROMs.
I would say go for it.
Scott

thanks all for your kind sharing of thoughts...i wld go for it then!!!

Defintely go for 1.66. It's worlds apart from the 1.43 ROM my phone shipped with.

i flash to the 1.66 version .. there were alot error msg pop out .. such as service.exe and device.exe
so is there any problem wit the new rom version ?

isn' better to wait for the 2... version? this rom is known for is afterwards_fixes...
i'm waiting for that one.....think is better....

Good thread. I've been looking hard for a ROM 1.66 review type thread also, but to no avail.
Before I upgrade my ROM, can anyone comment on the picture quality? I remember I installed an htc official update (which was removed after a couple of days) for improving the camera, but all it did was make every picture look way over exposed - I needed to hard reset. I don't want to upgrade to this ROM if it nullifies my camera.

Thanks in advance.

Popeyes_Rat said:
Before I upgrade my ROM, can anyone comment on the picture quality? I remember I installed an htc official update (which was removed after a couple of days) for improving the camera, but all it did was make every picture look way over exposed - I needed to hard reset. I don't want to upgrade to this ROM if it nullifies my camera.
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Shameless bump.

No dice???

"Screw you guys, I'm going home."

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I lost my XT9 functionality with upgrading to this ROM. It only works with Phone Keyboard mode, in compact and full QWERTY it doesn't work, only the space bar works, no letters, no numbers, no nothing. I posted a thread about this but seems that no one either has encountered this problem or they don't use XT9 and are not bothered by it.
Whichever way, I would like to request if anyone can please post the portion of the their registry so that I can see what is missing or what is different by mine.
Thanks!
And if you don't have any problems with your 1.48, stick with it! It's not worth the update, trust me....

de Wolfe said:
Another thread about 1.66 - that's very cool!
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and thanks for adding a very constructive comment to it.......
on topic, op, go for it.before i upgraded i had the odd freeze issue and sometimes stuttery actions going on but since the upgrade everythings been spot on. not a single freeze or soft reset. everything seems silky smooth......

Popeyes_Rat said:
Thanks in advance.
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I think the camera works well for a phone camera... its not going to rival Nikon or Canon but the pics I have taken have been clear crisp and has good colour saturation... Using 1.66 has been fine for me... I have been toying with using Dutty's ROM or Merilion... but the need is not so great now that the phone works fine on 1.66...

Shadowdh said:
I think the camera works well for a phone camera... its not going to rival Nikon or Canon but the pics I have taken have been clear crisp and has good colour saturation... Using 1.66 has been fine for me... I have been toying with using Dutty's ROM or Merilion... but the need is not so great now that the phone works fine on 1.66...
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Thank you!

best upgrade nearly no issues ,no need to flash sh*tty cooked roms

Moved from Windows to Android - Missing Clean ROM upgrades

I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's

I am sure it will not be long before you have your wish, Paul over at Modaco is the main Cook at the moment nip over he has a custom ROM

devdarshan said:
I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.

Meltus said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.
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Chill out Meltus.
Am not sitting here to start another debate on disrespecting Chef's - never had that intention anyway if you had read my post with a clear mind! - I have been a user of custom cooked ROM's since the days of XDA IIs and never had a reply of such.
My title read - 'Moved from windows' - which implied that I am new to Android and still experimenting - infact I am still on my stock ROM on my dell online purchased unit and was only lookign for a way to uninstall Touchdown etc to save on space in memory.
Thanks for the tip on changing update.zip - now I have a solution which I can look into!
I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove) and being in a forum - you will have to appreciate - we all have the right to ask questions - some may be good and some naive!
So mine was naive - and thanks for your answers.

devdarshan said:
I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove)
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Ah, I apologise, I thought you were referring to ROM developers, sorry
Anyway, if you want to open the zip, remove stuff, and then sign it again, you'll need the signing tool - http://androidforums.com/developer-101/8665-how-signing-roms.html
Sorry again, i guess i just completely mis-read your post ><

Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!

devdarshan said:
Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!
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Haha, i think it's almost impossible to brick the streak at the moment, you can always just fastboot flash the stock recovery image then flash the stock update.pkg from Dell!
I'm a weak f***er so that's out of the question

I too have come from WM and have been using it since it came out in '98. One thing I miss is the ability to view and tweak the registry. Like on the HD2 just change
'Go to HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P2\ EncodeFormat' to '2147483647' and you have loads of additional video recording formats!

You can also remove ROM apps by using Root Explorer (need rooted phone obviously) and removing the offending /apk files from /system/apps and then clearing the Dalvik-cache and rebooting.
I just flashed the 2.1 ROM on my AT&T/US Streak and got rid of Touchdown and Amazon MP3. No more icons I don't use, nor widgets to scroll through.
here's a good guide to it:
http://www.market4android.com/how-to-remove-stock-android-apps.php
Good luck.

Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S

vinokirk said:
Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S
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Good to know. I was wondering if it was so easy, why would everyone care about what apps are installed if you can just zap em if you don't want them. Well thankfully I developed no ill effects from my deletions, and I removed those I really didn't want.
I'm not enough of a linux/Android gear head to know better. I'm a pretty good Windows gear head, but never knew Linux well which is too bad with all the cool Androids coming along in the handheld space. Oh well, learning new tricks is good too i suppose...
thanks

ROM/Camera Question

Hey guys!
I haven't been on in quite a bit.
I was browsing through some of the custom WP7 roms, and couldn't really find an answer to my question.
I'm using the original WP7 on my HD2. It's the one DFT released... The first WP7 rom for the HD2.
My question is this:
Has the camera been fixed in any of the newer ROMS?
I have no complaints with the original build other than the camera not working very well. Even shooting videos gives me focus problems.
Oh, and one other thing: My Zune music is always set to shuffle now. Can't seem to correct it.
Anyway, sorry if this has been asked and covered before. I just haven't been on the forums in a month or so.

This software works fine with the camera. Use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942605

spgi said:
This software works fine with the camera. Use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942605
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Thanks for the link. I'll give it a try.
Any idea why my Zune music won't stop shuffling?

nova hands said:
Hey guys!
I haven't been on in quite a bit.
I was browsing through some of the custom WP7 roms, and couldn't really find an answer to my question.
I'm using the original WP7 on my HD2. It's the one DFT released... The first WP7 rom for the HD2.
My question is this:
Has the camera been fixed in any of the newer ROMS?
I have no complaints with the original build other than the camera not working very well. Even shooting videos gives me focus problems.
Oh, and one other thing: My Zune music is always set to shuffle now. Can't seem to correct it.
Anyway, sorry if this has been asked and covered before. I just haven't been on the forums in a month or so.
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DOnt know about zune im afraid, doesnt happen to me....as for the camera, teh link supplied above is fine for most things, its not very intigrated but you cant have everything!
as for a fix, nope, and unlikely
as for the ROMs, they are all the same ROM, there is no development branchs available, and there are no tools available to build a full ROM yourself, dont expect anything like the amount of modding available to WM6 systems. its also unlikely we will get more compatible drivers for our device since its now quite old
personally, i think its very much a case of, you get what you pay for, if you want better then your going to need to spend some more cash an buy a WP7 device.

dazza9075 said:
DOnt know about zune im afraid, doesnt happen to me....as for the camera, teh link supplied above is fine for most things, its not very intigrated but you cant have everything!
as for a fix, nope, and unlikely
as for the ROMs, they are all the same ROM, there is no development branchs available, and there are no tools available to build a full ROM yourself, dont expect anything like the amount of modding available to WM6 systems. its also unlikely we will get more compatible drivers for our device since its now quite old
personally, i think its very much a case of, you get what you pay for, if you want better then your going to need to spend some more cash an buy a WP7 device.
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The ROM really works great. I have no complaints with it. Just seeing if there had been any progress with the camera, that's all.
This Zune shuffling thing is baffling me. I distinctly remember seeing something about it awhile back, but I can't find anything in the forums about it.
One day all my music played normally, and the next, it will only shuffle. Strange indeed.