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TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond

For anyone who hasn't been watching the main development and hacking thread in XDA they've managed to get a working version of tomtom 7 off the new HTC Diamond and got it to work on other phones. This happend a few days ago I believe, maybe longer. That said, it hadnt worked on the Vogue untill now thanks to starbase64.
You can find the version of tomtom 7 that works with our phones here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/12398912...and_6.cab.html
http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=6EF2ABE2
Also please find the direct link to the actual thread topic for this development here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401691
I had tomtom 6.03 installed with USA and Canada Maps ver. 6.75. I installed tomtom 7 which uninstalled tomtom 6 and installed 7 overtop.. booted up and my map worked fine. GPS actually connected way quicker then with 6.03.
(sidenote.... I use a bluetooth external GPS reciever as I am waiting for telus to get of their butts and release their rom update that will activate the internal gps)
The only thing I have noticed so far is that tomtom 7 is supposed to have the option of being able to change the navigation cursor.. ie an arrow to a car which it says it cant because theres no cursors so I'm sure a fix or something for this will come at some point. But all looks good. The fonts are a bit big as its for VGA but still great. The black colour bars are alot nicer then the blue.
It's been said before and I will say it again. Dont discuss anr warz or anything like that. No hacks or cracks or where to download maps from illegally. If you want a map. Go to tomtom's website!

Oh.. I have also had issues with this version of tomtom and tomtom home. It wont regonize that 7 is installed. Shows all my maps and voices and what not. This is a little frustrating as because it doesnt recognize in home you cant use the mapshare. One of the big perks of the upgrade. If anyone figures this out OR if its just me let me know!
I tried upgrading to tomtom home ver 2 but it wouldnt recognize it either.

Alright everyone... Here's the newest QVGA version of TomTom 7. Looks a little nicer on the Vogue. All the fonts are the appropriate size and what not.
starbase64 said:
I have build a pachage (look in my 4Shared TomTom folder) "TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_QVGA_without_installation.rar".
Extract on your SD Card and start "TomTom Navigator.exe".
TomTom must never again be installed.
This pack is without voices, you can find voice in my 4Shared TomTom folder.
Thanks "minty1978" for the QVGA Pack, is faster on Hermes.
wfg
Starbase64
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Installation was fairly simple. I just copied the files over to my Touch and booted tomtom back up. Also check out the custom car icon files he has. What you have to do (took me a little research to figure it out) was where ever you installed your tomtom program. Mine was "\program files\Navigator" Make a folder called "art" and then a subfolder called "cars" Then put the car icon files you want inside that subfolder. When you boot up tomtom you can then change the icon of the direction arrow.
Edit: Here's some sites to download the car cursors as well
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-custom-cursors.php
http://tomtom.gps-data-team.com/car_symbols.html
http://www.tomtomforums.com/forumdis...=67&order=desc

Is Google Navigator going to be a descent solution for us? Or is this going to be the best?
Of course I have no idea, as I'm waiting for Sprint US to get me my fancy new ROM update as well. So I haven't even had the opportunity to search around and play yet, using an external.
Hopefully today at 11:00am. Have to wait and see. Not holding my breath.
L8R

well googl's free.. I dont believe it has 3d map views although it does have satelite.. which is a perk. I'd say tomtom is a little more advanced then googlemaps for sure. 3d driving view ... voice guidance... thousands and thouands of poi's, easy menus etc etc. If you havnt used tom tom before you'll be pleasantly suprised how easy it is to use. Then again Tom toms been making stand alone units (PNA's) for years and years so they sort of have been working at it a long while now where as google maps is new to the game. I use both Navigon and tom tom and find them to be the best for what I need. With google map you can triangulate your position with cell towers too.. tomtom... nope. you NEED GPS for it to work

Aaron McCarthy said:
well googl's free.. I dont believe it has 3d map views although it does have satelite.. which is a perk. I'd say tomtom is a little more advanced then googlemaps for sure. 3d driving view ... voice guidance... thousands and thouands of poi's, easy menus etc etc. If you havnt used tom tom before you'll be pleasantly suprised how easy it is to use. Then again Tom toms been making stand alone units (PNA's) for years and years so they sort of have been working at it a long while now where as google maps is new to the game. I use both Navigon and tom tom and find them to be the best for what I need. With google map you can triangulate your position with cell towers too.. tomtom... nope. you NEED GPS for it to work
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Last time I looked Google Navigator was like $60 bucks.
http://www.pdafun.net/
And I thought it had all the 3D maps, Driving Directions, voice command turn by turns and all that jazz too...??
Google Maps isn't really a navigation package, nor is Live Search IMHO.
I think you may be replying about the wrong application...ALthough I do think it's really weird for someone to charge $60 for a front end using the free google database, but hey; whatcha gonna do...
It almost like a Google Earth for WM6 devices...No...

Very true... Duh.. I was thinking about google maps. I haven't tried google navigator. I think last time I went to go try they didnt have a trial and I wasnt about to pay for something without knowing how well it worked. This threads going to get off topic quick. Tomtom 7.. download and try and you will love it!

Aaron McCarthy said:
Very true... Duh.. I was thinking about google maps. I haven't tried google navigator. I think last time I went to go try they didnt have a trial and I wasnt about to pay for something without knowing how well it worked. This threads going to get off topic quick. Tomtom 7.. download and try and you will love it!
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I just checked that pdafun link, and there is a free trial, although I have to agree...$60 for a front-end on a free set of maps is pretty expensive. Unless they have tts (haven't researched it yet).

How do you switch TomTom 7 over to english?

Ah yes... I forgot about that.. Here's what you have to do..
I should have remembered but yes, the QVGA version I posted is set to, well I dont remember what language actually...But its not english. There seems to be two ways to get it to english.
The first is simply to delete the file [navigator.cfg] which I'm fairly sure is in whatever directory you are installing tomtom 7 to. That said you can probably just NOT move it over into the directory. Before I discovered that deleting this file would make the english the default I did this.
Here's the method I figured out
Once the map screen has popped up tap the screen once, the bottomn left icon with a wrech is what you then have to press. A new page will pop up. Push the bottom right icon (a blue arrow) 5 times. On the last page you should see an icon with 3 flags.. it will be the top left icon. Press this once. Then you'll have the option of changing the language.
Change it to english or whatever you want it to be and you are set!
This brings up another possible issue I never thought about though untill now. If for whatever reason you cant boot up tomtom because its in some other language and you have to go through a set up in another launguge (I imagine if its the first time loading up it SHOULD give you the option of choosing the language before hand but if it doesnt) maybe install that VGA version and get the set up and what not, everything the way you want it THEN copy of the QVGA files. This may not even be an issie at all but if it should happen to someone its an idea on how to get it done!
Hope this helps!

Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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Dunno why, it saw my TT6 maps (NA 6.75)... I was able to use them right away...

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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I too had it working with my version 6.75 maps. What version of maps do you have installed? If its older then the 6.75 perhaps they wont work. That said, if you have to upgrade then I would just upgrade to the latest ver 7 maps.

Weird, I have 6.75 also. My map folder is named "USA and Canada 675_1409". How does that compair with everyone?

I noticed that if you edit the Currentmap.dat file and redirect it to my map folder it still won't work.. Its weird TomTom 6 works fine.

I had problems with it not finding my maps. So I got some new ones and it worked fine instantly...

Just a question. Has anyone gotten Tomtom home 2.3 to work with their vogue yet? I've had no luck at all. I've been checking the main thread on this in the development area and alot of people are having issues getting their phones to connect.. While some connect just fine. I havnt read anything in there though from other Vogue users. In order to use the mapshare you need to be able to connect to tomtom home 2. So this would be great if we get it working OR if someone has it working maybe they could tell us what they did.
Thanks!

Anyone be able to download one free map from tomtom.com?

Boss428man said:
Your trick for deleteing the navigator temp file worked great. Do you have any suggestions for getting TT7 to read my TT6 maps. It keeps saying maps not found.
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6xx maps won't work, you have to get the new 7xx map.
Also, you need to activate the maps as well. Tomtom 7 increased the security.

does this file work w/the vogue internal gps? I'm using TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_repack2.cab that works with my maps, but doesn't pick up my GPS. (it works great on a friend's mogul)

GPS software

can anyone recommend the dif gps apps that feature turn by turn directions?
google maps is fine except id like that feature. a couple dif ones to try would be nice.

See link below. Look near bottom of first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431

Thank you for the link to the post - the information there is very helpful reading the software available. I'm using IGuidance but was thinking about trying TomTom.

I use tomtom7 for the turn by turn "turn right" "left turn ahead" etc...does not say the street name but it keeps talking to you up until you make the turn... the point of interest is very good...need a wal-mart, best buy points them all out...

amAze
amAze
turn by trun with voice
and its free

GPS Amaze with XV6800
Which version of Amaze do you use with the xv6800? I have tried HTC Touch and WM5 and after a short time I get exception errors. Thanks.
jsajczuk said:
amAze
turn by trun with voice
and its free
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I am using Garmin Mobile XT. It also has turn by turn. The one thing I find that I like better about it over TomTom is that it actually will tell you what side of the street your destination is on. Unless this has changed from the One TomTom does not give you that information. Also there are lots of POI's you can download off the internet for free. I found starbucks, dunken donuts, autozone, homedepot....etc. on one site and have uploaded them to my phone. Like the TomTom it does not give street names.

bparent said:
Which version of Amaze do you use with the xv6800? I have tried HTC Touch and WM5 and after a short time I get exception errors. Thanks.
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amAze 4.2 their latest..

Amaze phone or windows mobile
I'm sorry I wasn't very clear with my question. Which model phone's software did you download for the vx6800 since it is not listed and there are several HTC's listed? I tried HTC Touch and WM5 but it has been unstable for me.
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amAze 4.2 their latest..
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Generic Version
I think I downloaded the generic WM6 version and it has been working pretty well.

The only thing aAzing to me was that I actually tried this software again even after struggling with it a few months ago. I don't care for the interface. I don't care for the fact that it locks up my 6800 often. And I also found it causes an odd slowdown, even after it has been closed. I got annoyed by the slow down after a couple of days, so I removed it from memory, and the slowdown went away. Very odd.
Hard to beat Windows Live Search for free. No voice, but you get a couple of 'dings' as reminders of turns.

bparent said:
I'm sorry I wasn't very clear with my question. Which model phone's software did you download for the vx6800 since it is not listed and there are several HTC's listed? I tried HTC Touch and WM5 but it has been unstable for me.
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the generic WM6.. no lockups, no battery run down...

Amaze xv6800 wm6 upgrade rom
jsajczuk said:
the generic WM6.. no lockups, no battery run down...
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Thanks for the info. I tried that and after a short while I get exception errors and lockups. May be WM6.1 and the new Verizon rom upgrade. Also, I don't get any data for maps.

I have a xv 6800 with 6.1 and Amaze works just fine for me. No lockups at all. Their satellite map coverage is dismal, at least in Southern California, but I love using their heads up 3d street maps and voice nav features.
Devin

necromis said:
I am using Garmin Mobile XT. It also has turn by turn. The one thing I find that I like better about it over TomTom is that it actually will tell you what side of the street your destination is on. Unless this has changed from the One TomTom does not give you that information. Also there are lots of POI's you can download off the internet for free. I found starbucks, dunken donuts, autozone, homedepot....etc. on one site and have uploaded them to my phone. Like the TomTom it does not give street names.
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Since when does mobile xt speak turn by turn? I have tried the latest version ??5.20.00 or something, and there is no turn by turn on any mobile xt that I have found.

Google Maps without internet connection?

hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses

try smart2go; similar and you can store maps...

can somebody explain me how i get that on my diamond?
i guess it´s for nokia...

new bie question
I am confused. I would like to know whether we can install the google maps on diamond? can we use it just to find our way without connecting to GPS and so on.
I am sorry I don't have so much knowledge.
thanks for your kind reply.
greetings!
sony

I use TrekBuddy for the same purpose. It works nice on the Diamond.

search for smart2go wm6

I use GoogleMaps in Colorado, and it does work with and without GPS. Here in the US, GoogleMaps will use cell towers to triangulate where you are (been off as much as a half mile before), but it is better than nothing if you have no data plan.

no, it is not possible. you need internet to download maps on the fly. gm does have limited memory where you can browse a map (via internet) and it remembers a few frames for when you arent connected

nba_playa said:
hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses
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man, u've gotta take a look at this
may be not the perfect solution we are looking for, but atleast there's hope

th1nm1nt said:
I use GoogleMaps in Colorado, and it does work with and without GPS. Here in the US, GoogleMaps will use cell towers to triangulate where you are (been off as much as a half mile before), but it is better than nothing if you have no data plan.
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That's called AGPS. Without using GPS and internet connection, the device finds your location. Iphone uses AGPS. I have no idea whether GoogleMap on diamond uses AGPS or not. But it's really annoying that when using GoogleMap without turning data connection on, GoogleMap keeps on popping that it needs some sort of data connection and I need to cancel it constantly.
Guys, anyway to get around this?

blufade said:
man, u've gotta take a look at this
may not the perfect solution we are looking for, but atleast there's hope
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seems to be a solution....
but how does that work?
i diddn´t understand that
haha
thx for help

nba_playa said:
seems to be a solution....
but how does that work?
i diddn´t understand that
haha
thx for help
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well, it seems like a workaround for linux based MIDs
if u do have a linux box, give it a try and let us know

i don´t have linus xD

nba_playa said:
hi to all
i wanted to ask, if it is possible to use google maps without the internet on my diamond....
for example : is there any way to load the map of germany on my phone so i can use it without paying for internet
thanks for responses
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I just started working on GL Maps this past week. It caches maps for 48 hours.
It's still very early beta though, so it probably won't fit what you need for a while.

GPS software

Hi folks,
I am wanting a decent GPS software for my touch diamond..
which one would you lot recommend?
thanks

I've heard google maps has gps support in settings, windows live has it, and if you want the kind when the lady talks to you you can get TomTom or iGo. Im sure there are more...
Whichever one you choose just remember to search for it, theres been tons of threads on how to get the specific app to work on the diamond properly.

thanks for the reply..
yes I meant sat nav to be precise lol
I have google maps on it but thats no good for me since I dont use and pay for the internet unless its my wi-fi at home, no good when im outside!
tomtom still the best would you say?

try GarminXT..works good..

TomTom= least amount of memory and ok visuals
IGo8=uses lots of memory but stunning visuals
Tomtom does the job!

cheers peeps,
I will try and see which one i can get hold of..
in the meantime, i found this link for the IGO8:
http://revver.com/video/992123/igo-8-htc-diamond-test/
it might be useful for those of you, like me, who wants to see how the sat navs are on the touch..
also, wats GarminXT like in terms of memory usage??
dakz

I need some help and links

I want to but a gps software for the HD2 any suggestions for those already using your hd2 as a GPS. Can you provide some links as well thanks.

Copilot Live 8 seems to be the best. Very nice for only $30.
Cant post the link though, due to the forums T_T

The research has already been done:
Please see the below link for info and make your best decision:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=116883

perfect thanks I dont think telenav its worth spending 10 buck a month and i cant find tom tom any where

telenav is nice for sumone that doesnt want a full gps software on device and who uses it daily for 120 a year
but copilot is 30bucks for the full download and activation key u do the math

wingtytn said:
telenav is nice for sumone that doesnt want a full gps software on device and who uses it daily for 120 a year
but copilot is 30bucks for the full download and activation key u do the math
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I agree but telenav works on data right when copilot doesn't so their no competition here but still looking around I need a gps cradle or mount or what ever you call it. right now im not in a rush but i know the time will come where i do need a gps software.

I am using Garmin Mobile XT and very satisfied with it, except no TTS and Portrait display only.