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Did anyone notice the new Subforum under the HTC Blackstone called "Touch HD Android Development?"
Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!
refthemc said:
Did anyone notice the new Subforum under the HTC Blackstone called "Touch HD Android Development?"
Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!
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thats some bs....after all the requests ive written to flar and that worthless request(ignore) thread in the xda forum
+ 1 for Android sub-forum for Touch
Of course, there's almost no non-Android postings anymore in the Touch CDMA General forum.
This is BS.. Seriously.. Why don't we have a dedicated subforum for android on vogue..
this should become a petion
a dedicated sub forum would really organize the threads
It's a no brainer to add an android forum, it's not even hard to do -.- no excuse why they shouldn't
Was there ever an explanation for why we couldn't have an android sub-forum? I recall the disappointment around the last batch of requests for a subforum but not sure if there was more to the denial.
plemen said:
Was there ever an explanation for why we couldn't have an android sub-forum? I recall the disappointment around the last batch of requests for a subforum but not sure if there was more to the denial.
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nope just ignored requests......didnt even get excuses
I'll sign the petition.. you guys more than deserve it!! Although with the development done for Android on the Vogue, you'd have to be nuts to be running anything but Android... so you might as well call this the Vogue Android forum!
It would make sense!!!!!!!!
Why would anyone be against a Vogue Android forum in the first place? To be honest...its 90-95% of my reason for coming to xda on a daily basis.
Come on guys give us Vogue users and Android forum
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Why would anyone be against a Vogue Android forum in the first place? To be honest...its 90-95% of my reason for coming to xda on a daily basis.
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Make that 100% for me.
Being an onld Wing-->G1-->Vogue user, I agree with the Android the only reason I have visited this site in the past few months. It would keep everything more organized for this forum if we had the subforum
i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
if I was a mod I'd lock this thread
I'll one up you, I would ban him
You can get froyo in the vibrant thro a custom rom.
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I want to know why many peeps here hate about question on froyo for vibrant?
SiL3nTKiLL said:
ok my bad guys, i did research on it afterwords and it seems there isnt a full froyo out..Mod edit: language removed from quote
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This is why people rage about this...There are 20 gazillion 2.2 threads...and one search button. Search always loses
All the roms available for the phone are on the first two pages of the development side. Not like people are hiding **** keeping full 2.2 roms to themselves, that's why these threads are stupid.
Lol at researching afterwards haha.
SiL3nTKiLL said:
i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
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No 2.2 for the vibrant yet... No eta either. Just be patient, we will get it eventually.
In the mean time you should try one of the two froyo roms that are in the forum.
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looks like 2.2 for vibrant may come shortly though. we'll see.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5038470-official-froyo-release-galaxy-s-
SiL3nTKiLL said:
man people are so uptight on this forum now, back in the day it was never like this...oh well, i guess when ur a 12yr old hiding behind a monitor, u can be the biggest e-thug u want to be out there :/
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No its just the fact that no one these days can figure out how to use the "Search" function & there are all of these useless threads that pop up. (Hint: This thread)
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... mind numbing rudeness of people ... Nothing sours the moment more quickly than scanning a thread for nuggets of hidden info while constantly tripping over tripe ...
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+1 Agree, This community has become a little bitter - Why ???
People are bitter and frustrated because every day dozens of people are posting new threads about topics that have been answers, already have dozens of threads about the same topic, the answers are in the sticky, or just general whining. I personally have never seen a forum where so many people create new threads about the same exact thing numerous times a day.
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration. All of this crowds up the forum making it harder to find people with new issues, actually finding GOOD information (how many times do we need to hear that a TMO rep said something was coming in a week? really), and trying to find legitimate news.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This ^^^^^^
KerryG said:
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration.
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I do wish there was a little more active moderation in this forum. As for the OP's suggestion that people calm down, spending any time in this forum ~1 day before the JI6 update dropped would have seen no less than 2 Froyo threads in the front page, and there have been by last count 7 within the last month.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This won't happen until they invent the "physical beatdown over IP" protocol. The Internet is what is it because being polite isn't required to escape physical confrontation unscathed. It's easy to be willfully ignorant and to shrug off attempts to be educated, and it's just as easy to browbeat people who flippantly ignore general etiquette. Copernicus would be rolling over in his grave to know that everyone on the Internet thinks the universe revolves around them.
I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
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I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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so rather than ignore the thread and let it fall off the front page you would rather spam insults and useless information?
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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Well folks, another has appeared. I've done a clean-up here, and fired off infractions to those flaming and cursing. This will not be tolerated, and trolling will be dealt with seriously.
This thread won't be opening due to the sheer number of similar threads already in existence.
here you can read more about our beloved new version of Android, version 2.3!
sooo, im' asking you, how long do you think it will take to our developers to have it running smoothly on leo?
How the hell should we know ???
There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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Yup!
10char
I already gave infinitybiff the system.img from the 2.3 sdk. So, soon people!
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OMG Ur Really Asking a Dumb question
It Will Take As Long As Xda Developers will take dont worry about it and let them do their hobbie(they arent getting paid for it) and eventually we will get it this thread will most likey jst pressure them more
Why Flame Just because someone asks a question?
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Agreed. =)
Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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Agreed. =)
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Agreed It wasn't pleasant when I start asking questions and I got sent to the "Box-of-silence" for "spilling-the-milk"...
asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Finally someone said it. Completely agree
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domineus said:
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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If people do not like multiple threads, complainers, then why contribute to them by taking up space and jabbering comments? Kinda contradicktory; if the DEVS don't like it then they'll delete it, simple.
asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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+1 ...i totally agree. some get ignorant for no reason. it's like they try to belittle others.try to sound one step smarter than the next person..and for what? what do you gain? i also hate when someone takes advantage of the post system and talks down to someone with less posts.
just because one has less posts then another doesn't mean they know any less. it just means they recently joined this forum. doesn't mean they are noobs.
2.3
Correct me if I am wrong here but since 2.3 is a revision of 2.2 wouldn't it be a case of just updating the kernel and booting away??
Eg relatively minor work compared to the whole getting android on to HD2 in the first place.
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Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
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Oh hell yeah. Saw this earlier, but didnt even realise that it was my post that you were talking about. Biff has already tried to start booting, but no luck yet. Motoman and M-deejay are on it as well.
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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Awesome reply...
to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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thanks and respect to you! also includes deadmansink's post
Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!
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Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!
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LMFAO ........................................
omg you made me spit iced tea everywhere
Kameirus said:
LMFAO ........................................
omg you made me spit iced tea everywhere
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I love his answers, one of his most popular answers is the amazing "click" where he simply names the link click and it transfers you to google-.-
HAHAH
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Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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I love the battery life on hyperdroid cm7 2.1.0
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Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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Great, another "whats got bets battery life" topic, we have been running short on these and other circular never ending topics like them, lets all enjoy at the finality of the answers.
Go and try some roms and find out what has best battery life for YOU because what MAY have good life for us doesn't necessarily translate to best for YOU.
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Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!
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haha quality
just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum.. and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop... be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
ujjwal321 said:
be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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with reading, reading, reading. and with experimenting. with trying something out and not expecting it to be 100% perfect the first time i did it. not posting and expecting others to solve basics for me.
but i digress. so many threads about "best this" or "best that"...it seems that people are hesitating to experiment or impatient at that their first choice may not be the best answer.
anyways. blah blah.
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just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum.. and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop... be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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new to the forum huh
youve been a member since 2008
ujjwal321 said:
just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday
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Enjoy
ujjwal321 said:
... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
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How can you give a "one word" answer to this question? Aprt from maybe "search" or "read"
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you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum..
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1) Been pro at flashing has absolutley nothing to do with it, Its about common sense and not been LAZY.
2) You've been a member here since 2008!!!!
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and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop...
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That doesnt mean you cant point out the fact that its a rediculous topic to make because its already been made over and over again, In the least it will make the OP aware that next time he/she/himshe needsto use search or take a simple browse of the sections before cteating a topic (ITS ALSO IN THE RULES AT NUMBER 1)
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be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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Is this some kind of joke? Are you seriously asking this question?
I start the same place I would do on ANY forum...
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Sticky Topics
Reading topics
All these "best" topics are completley useless other then to clog up the forum with useless junk, There is just too many of them and they always have the same answers. In some section they get closed/deleted by mods so its not as if we are complaining for no reason.
Anyway, Welcome to the HD2 forum some advice for you...
DO NOT create topics in the dev section, Its for posting dev releases/work/reference ONLY!
DO NOT create "Best rom" or "Best Battery" or any other kind of "best" topics as they will always get same response, "best" is subjective upon the user, The ONLY way to find the "best" is to try it yourself because best for you is not always best for us etc.
PS. Incase you wasnt aware, All XDA n00bs at registration are give this video to watch so they have absolutely no excuse creating topics that are going to be obviously a FAQ, Its just common sense, ANY question that a n00b can think of has very likely already been asked AND answered a million times already so all they have to do is take 2 seconds to look, its as simple as that.
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Enjoy
How can you give a "one word" answer to this question? Aprt from maybe "search" or "read"
1) Been pro at flashing has absolutley nothing to do with it, Its about common sense and not been LAZY.
2) You've been a member here since 2008!!!!
That doesnt mean you cant point out the fact that its a rediculous topic to make because its already been made over and over again, In the least it will make the OP aware that next time he/she/himshe needsto use search or take a simple browse of the sections before cteating a topic (ITS ALSO IN THE RULES AT NUMBER 1)
Is this some kind of joke? Are you seriously asking this question?
I start the same place I would do on ANY forum...
Search Button
Sticky Topics
Reading topics
All these "best" topics are completley useless other then to clog up the forum with useless junk, There is just too many of them and they always have the same answers. In some section they get closed/deleted by mods so its not as if we are complaining for no reason.
Anyway, Welcome to the HD2 forum some advice for you...
DO NOT create topics in the dev section, Its for posting dev releases/work/reference ONLY!
DO NOT create "Best rom" or "Best Battery" or any other kind of "best" topics as they will always get same response, "best" is subjective upon the user, The ONLY way to find the "best" is to try it yourself because best for you is not always best for us etc.
PS. Incase you wasnt aware, All XDA n00bs at registration are give this video to watch so they have absolutely no excuse creating topics that are going to be obviously a FAQ, Its just common sense, ANY question that a n00b can think of has very likely already been asked AND answered a million times already so all they have to do is take 2 seconds to look, its as simple as that.
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OK so the new to the forum thing should have been new to HD2 forum. I have been following the galaxy S forum for last few months. so I know the basics..
but I don't want to go through tens of threads so the best thing would be to ask or look for best ROM topic..
yes it is irritating to read all the best ROM, kernel topics but that's what newbies like to know.. I think the solution would be add a newbie section.. so that the development section will remain clean.. or you could just stop replying to such threads... whats up with that? ?
Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Wisdom strong in this post is. Franco is a really good developer and I'm sad he left Note. He used to develop for my old Huawei before he left for GNex and his kernel rocked. :thumbup:
But... One shouldn't take the regular forum trolls too seriously. Just leave them crying in their own **** and move own. There is also the report function here.
I agree with you though that there is way too much idiots in the development forums. Just look at the new JB PA 1.1 thread: couple of first pages just full of posts "how do I install this?" "does this brick my phone!?" etc. So annoying to find the actual bug reports or feedbacks through all the ****. This is because people are way too lazy to actually study anything these days. Everything has to brought to them ready and chewed.
Edit: and there is also this one hero that already bricked his note with JB PA because he didn't care to study stuff before flashing. :banghead:
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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We can report.. But that won't stop the developer getting pissed and stopping development..
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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Tbh there should be a read count for how many threads someone has read. :beer: That would just be a little hard to measure.
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I certainly agree on you with this one. But like in every other forum and the whole internet, you can't really prevent noobs and trolls. Trolls gotta troll man. Kinda hard to filter them out as it will require the mods to check every single day on every single thread with thousands of post on it and obviously that will take full time. Most of us specially moderators do this for a hobby.
Let's just do our part to make the community a better place. That is reporting trolls. Like the other guy said on the 2nd post, let's just click on that little report button and the mods will take care of the rest or you can just ignore the regular forum troll and move on like most of us do. An old internet saying "Don't feed the trolls" ignore them and the average forum troll will just hunt for the next trollable thread and will eventually get tired, while the persistent ones, well let's just keep on clicking the report button and wait for the banhammer to land
The post requirement or the tenureship in the forum is a fantastic idea though. Maybe even the thanks meter/level, like you could post even if you're not 3 months old or don't have 350 posts but if you do have a certain thanks level/meter you could post and access the restricted area of the forums. No one would press the thanks button if you didn't post something useful right?
Randomwalker said:
I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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msedek said:
Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Although you have a point here i really don't like the idea. Ok we need to restrict the troll posts but..... once you were a noob too !!!! What we see now is that this site has grown to numbers never seen before. In the early days there were only a handfull users, a few devices and not much to do. Nowadays if you have a problem EVERYBODY refers to this forum from other places. So basicly we have a flood of new, unexperienced, people that just have one big problem: THEY DON'T READ!!!! I've been a member for a long time now, learned a lot just by reading and only post when i think it's usefull to the comunity. Even after all this time i still sometimes ask questions like a noob, should i be blocked???
There is one solution for this problem: NOT allowing to post untill they have at least read a few posts MARKED as an obligation. But i don't think it's possible.
What we see here is the growing of a forum with soo many devices and people, i think about a year or two this will stabelize :laugh::laugh::laugh:
becosemsaida
Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
praetorius said:
put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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I abandoned a forum in my country due to "laws /rules" like that. Things were just getting out of proportion that it is impossible to help people there. Unfortunatly the mods over there think that they are god and if you make a reference about this forum or about rooting you will get banned !!!! I don't think that it's the future of this forum..
Restrict some topics to people that have more then xx months or xx posts will help. But i don't think it's possible to do. And what a bout people like me, i only read here, learn and do not post often. I don't have time to make a rom or custom firmware and come here for leasure ??? Am i elegible for seeing everything...... As you see it is very hard to make the choise about who can have full accesws and who doesn't.
becosemsaida
Write on development section thread should have some restriction.
And thank meter is one good criteria (just being member since long/posting just certain number of post dont make skilled)
if member have at least 10-20 thank meter he/she must have some skill and may not post noob Q.
There is always Q/A section is open for newbies.
this needs to be said.....
i have to call you out on this. The OP has been posting bizarre and rambling questions in DEV threads, getting all pissed off when ppl ask him not too, and has even admitted to not wanting to bother reading the thread because he is not that stupid.
It is people LIKE YOU that are bringing this place down.
If you cant be bothered searching or reading, you DO NOT BELONG on a development website. end of story.
If you want to make your phone look pretty to impress your mates, go some place else. XDA is all about the journey - the end result is not so important. its about trying things yourself and sharing knowledge. If you are just lucky enough, you might even be able to help someone out!
do not come here to whinge and flame others when you break the rules (do NOT post in a dev thread if it is not directly related to the development of that thread).
Also, you have to wonder how a user of 4 months has over 1000 posts, and some members have been here for years with only 500 posts.....
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little-vince said:
Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
trolls and noobs should rot in hell
as for noobs,reading and jesus saves....
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
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And I completely agree with you. So why are you being all pissy about it?
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And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
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Well clearly my definition of a noob/n00b/newb/newbie is different to yours. So I apologise if my "sweeping statement" offended you (and/or anyone else).
Are we not fighting for the same thing here?
Gee fricken wizz.
msedek said:
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
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I think XDA should do nothing here.
There are no real reasons to rage at some users posts.
There's nothing SO bad about it.
You can always press 'report' button if some super-mega-trolls come to your thread (I haven't seen any yet)
As for me, XDA community is currently not so friendly as it should be.
Devs raging at most of the posts, advanced users trolling noobs...
That's really not so nice.
Blocking users with small post count or small thanks count, etc is unacceptable in my opinion. Really.
Maybe XDA is meant for developers, but developers can't exist without users they are developing for.
Here is Example, why we should need some control
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29501802&postcount=91
jaskiratsingh said:
upgrades to lrk from lrg yesterday. No issues with deep sleep in both 404 version. Battery lasts more than a day. I am a very heavy user. I am satisfied with the performance, battery consumption.
I always factory reset after flashing a rom. You can do that but at your own risk. I am aware of the brick bug but i have don't at least till 40 times on stock kernel and no issues so far.
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jaskiratsingh said:
I have factory reset over 40 times on stock ICS kernel and no issue so far.
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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This I agree, sometimes it's not that they're noob, it's that they're kiasu, as we Singaporeans call it. They spam devs with stupid questions, since it's free to ask anyway, and expect people to be free 24/7 to reply.
Also, many devs hate XDA. Because much dev work is not being appreciated here. In the Acer Iconia A500 section, both devs "Thor2002pro" and "dexter_nlb" have made amazing contributions to the community, but many *******s don't appreciate what they have done. They have left subsequently.
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