I've just installed and tried this.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
As with the previous Beta, the menus look great, are very finger friendly and the start page is fantastic and customisable.
However I am now unable to turn to landscape. I can't find a setting for this but I'm sure in the previous beta I was able to do this without tweaking.
The graphics look great and it now supposedly supports Flash. Youtube was ok, though I still feel the resolution is far from good enough. But I was unable to play music in myspace flashplayers or view videos on Kontraband.
The final major downside for me is that they still haven't sorted pinch to zoom on this browser.
it's getting better but still more work to be done. I think I'm going to roll back to the earlier version.
Until pinch zoom is implemented Opera 10 on the HD2 is irrelevent without a stylus. There are some things you need to zoom close into to finger press or use the fine tip of a stylus for. The currently limited zoom of 10 makes this impossible on some pages for people with large fingers.
Yes .. some pages just need a bit of zoom in, some just a bit of zoom out. It seems however free zoom is not part of Opera 10 at all.
But majority of the sites do work well. The text is fit properly into the window without any need for horizontal scrolling. And flash support is a definite plus. Even I would like to use pinch to zoom, but still feel that the new opera is a good all purpose browser which doesn't makes me shift to my iphone for web browsing. And lastly, if you don't already know, you can apply Pinch to Zoom tweak in BsB for Opera!. It works well for me.
gags9999 said:
But majority of the sites do work well. The text is fit properly into the window without any need for horizontal scrolling. And flash support is a definite plus. Even I would like to use pinch to zoom, but still feel that the new opera is a good all purpose browser which doesn't makes me shift to my iphone for web browsing. And lastly, if you don't already know, you can apply Pinch to Zoom tweak in BsB for Opera!. It works well for me.
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Yeah, I even use BsB Tweaks to enable pinch to zoom for Opera Mini 5 Beta 2... It does work, BUT it is not NATIVE pinch to zoom: It will enlarge the whole app (including Menus etc) and not just the page. But for those situations where you need to tap a check box that is far too small to hit without zooming in, even the non native pinch to zoom works great!
Yes, the tweak does take care of some zoom tuning necessary for the tasks not adequately covered by the tap zoom. I myself use tap zoom and use pinch zoom only for fine adjustments. Best of both world's with flash thrown in the bargain!
I actually want to go back to the previous beta. I'm using the bsb tweak to zoom but I don't find it works that well to be honest. very fiddly and double-tap zooming seems better.
craigpyro said:
I've just installed and tried this.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
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uhm, in this thread you can find a comfortably repacked version of opera mobile 10b3 with promptless cab and included flash lite... and I'm using it instead dof the bundled 9.7 since a week or so
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uhm, in this thread you can find a comfortably repacked version of opera mobile 10b3 with promptless cab and included flash lite... and I'm using it instead dof the bundled 9.7 since a week or so
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does the Beta 3 repackaged with flash, support pinch and zoom?
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
MidnightDraven said:
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
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that is opera 9.7, not opera 10
jigners said:
does the Beta 3 repackaged with flash, support pinch and zoom?
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no it does not
MidnightDraven said:
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
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That's Opera 9.7. We're talking about Opera 10 beta 3, a new release in development from Opera. HTC will need to take Opera 10 (when it is released) and add their pinch-zooming functionality to it before (and if they choose to) update the HD2 with it.
Ah ok.
My mistake.
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I'm looking for alternative browsers, the default Opera install just does not cut the mustard. It's slow and it feels like it was written with hacks rather than good coding. I tried their beta, it's somewhat more responsive but there's no pinch zoom and the backbutton harware key does not work.
PIE is crap.
What alternatives are there?
Opera Mini 5 is my favorite
DrBytes said:
I'm looking for alternative browsers, the default Opera install just does not cut the mustard. It's slow and it feels like it was written with hacks rather than good coding. I tried their beta, it's somewhat more responsive but there's no pinch zoom and the backbutton harware key does not work.
PIE is crap.
What alternatives are there?
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I am using Skyfire on my Kaiser, not sure if it will work on HD2 though. Will try it if it ever arrives!!
Skyfire works on HD2. see HERE (towards the middle of this video)
Skyfire doesn't have support for higher resolutions yet -but they say it's coming soon.. You can still use it -I guess it works on Leo (I use it on my Topaz -but with grainy result)
Hey everyone!
Is there any way to enable multitouch in Opera 10? The HD2 comes with Opera 9.7 and it has multitouch (zooming). The newer Opera is much nicer looking and the browsing experience is smoother, but with no multitouch it's not half as useful as 9.7....
I agree. I'd much rather have 10, but not without multi-touch.
I did try Zooomer, but it didn't work. Besides, it's not the same kind of zooming that Opera 9.7 has.
I'm interested in this too.
Opera 10 doesn't support smooth zooming in the way that 9.5 and 9.7 did. It has only has two levels of zoom: zoomed in and zoomed out. There is nothing in between. So what would you expect pinch-to-zoom to do? I guess you could make it switch between zoomed in and zoomed out states, but a single tap already does that, and is much simpler.
There are multiple zoom levels in Opera 10, in the setting you define the "zoomed" in level.
I would imagine a true or "native" pinch to zoom, would toggle between that level of zoom, from 60-140%...or whatever the levels provided are.
I could use pinch zoom too. Yes, clicking is fine. But some sites have just too big fonts, and some sites just too small.
zoomer works quite well in opera 10...now if we could just get flash working in there i would be happy!
No text reflow, no pinch to zoom, no flash...
I'll keep my 9.7.
on my case i want vibration notifications and the ability to use back button on it
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No text reflow, no pinch to zoom, no flash...
I'll keep my 9.7.
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Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
the single touch zoom is a better zooming device imho, its quicker and easier.
for me the text reflow works fine in opera 10, and flash works ok on alot of sites, just tried speedtest.net and it worked fine (albeit a little slow)
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Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
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there is no text reflow on OM10 like the one in Opera 9.7....it's been a major complaint of everyone since the first beta.
Unless one counts the predefined text width length done by OM10 for every web page as text reflow - That's not true text reflow. Text reflow should be dynamic and changed depending on the variable screen width.
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Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
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I am using the stock ROM (1.66) with Opera 9.7 build 35267.
I have also no flash. For that i use skyfire.
I've read somewhere in their forums someone claim this Opera version was made strictly for hd2.. thus, Opera10 is not an upgrade from 9.7
Different products.
Opera 9.7 gives me the best experience on hd2.
Used Opera 10 with Zoomer but i dont like the little screen at bottom.
It is just NOT p2z if u use zoomer.
I stick to 9.7.
Ok here goes,
I prefer IE to Opera because,
1. It plays flash video natively, not only does it play flash video (even two at a time!!! Now thats how to show off to your iphone buddies down the pub ) but panning around a page that contains flash works smoothly as well, as I've enabled flash in Opera too and to be honest disabled it again as it was pants! I couldn't scroll around without weird glitches all over the place.
2.) It's way smoother, scrolling and zooming, I dont think Opera is using any kind of GPU acelleration but IE does.
Now here's the big Con,
No pinch to zoom! serriously I've searched the forum and cant find any way of re-eanbling pinch to zoom in IE as it was in the pre release ROM's. Surely theres a hack to bring pinch to zoom back to IE, have I missed it??
Does anybody know how to enable pinch and zoom in internet explorer ? Thanks in advance!
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Does anybody know how to enable pinch and zoom in internet explorer ? Thanks in advance!
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Yeah. You search the forums and they tell you how to enable pinch to zoom in any application.
To help, search for BsB Tweaks.
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Yeah. You search the forums and they tell you how to enable pinch to zoom in any application.
To help, search for BsB Tweaks.
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I think neither BsB Tweaks nor Zoomer work with Internet Explorer
Any solution guyz!!!!!!!
Always if ppl ask for Pinch to Zoom they mean real Pinch to Zoom, not the faked one.
Real= like in the HD2 embedded Opera
Fake= like the one from BSBtweaks, Zoomer and stuff (zooms just in on the screen, no word wrap adaption for example).
I would like to have it in IE as well....
I think you will find that IE in Windows Mobile 6.5 does not do pinch and zoom. Interestingly enough IE in the Zune HD does do pinch and zoom and this has led to some of the speculation that the Zune interface is a possibility for Windows Mobile 7...
I cannot remember where I read it specifically - google pinch and zoom in IE Windows Mobile 6.5 and you will find all the feedback on this.
Scott
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HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchGL\Pinch\WhiteList
probably u see there what i see?
seems like there has to be a possibility to activate pinch to zoom in IExplorer... we just have to finaly find out how
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*waking up this thread again*
HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchGL\Pinch\WhiteList
probably u see there what i see?
seems like there has to be a possibility to activate pinch to zoom in IExplorer... we just have to finaly find out how
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ummm isn't that registry key the exact location(s) where apps like bsbtweaks and zoomer do their magic? i.e. this registry key is responsible for the "fake" pinch to zoom.
to recap, the only REAL pinch to zoom i've observed on the HD2 are:
opera 9.7 (opera 10 only gets the fake approach)
album
native sms (when viewing a thread)
word and excel
notes
adobe reader
(and maybe a few others)
ASCIIker said:
ummm isn't that registry key the exact location(s) where apps like bsbtweaks and zoomer do their magic? i.e. this registry key is responsible for the "fake" pinch to zoom.
to recap, the only REAL pinch to zoom i've observed on the HD2 are:
opera 9.7 (opera 10 only gets the fake approach)
album
native sms (when viewing a thread)
word and excel
notes
adobe reader
(and maybe a few others)
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exactly thats why i think its possible, cause in the WhiteList folder u see two folders. one for the ie6 and one for the htc album.. and the album got real pinch to zoom like u said that was the only point why i thought about that
I like the new Opera 10, but I noticed the pinch/zoom don't work. How do I get it back?
you dont.... multi-touch is not included in 10.0... which sucks so thats why i went back to 9.7 and use SkyFire to use websites with alot of flash content...
Is there anyway to remap the hardware back button with Opera 10? I can live with out pinch to zoom, but really like the hardware key.
rlee008 said:
you dont.... multi-touch is not included in 10.0... which sucks so thats why i went back to 9.7 and use SkyFire to use websites with alot of flash content...
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you can enable pinch to zoom on it via bsb tweaks program from the open market. doesn't work well as the built-in programming on the earlier version of opera but it gets the job done.
I personally prefer 10 its much faster, has speed-dial and bookmark syncing. It has tap zoom which is well enough for me.
i tried 10 and for some reasonthe flash didnt work... and yes i enabled plugins
jeffel said:
i tried 10 and for some reasonthe flash didnt work... and yes i enabled plugins
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Only way I was able to get flash to work was to use a ROM that had the flash files cooked in.
flash works for me on opera 10 although i had to reinstall it due to crashing on me (non responsive/freezing phone) the first time.
Install the flash 3.1 and Opera 10 cabs to the phone storage and flash should work fine.