Hey everyone!
Is there any way to enable multitouch in Opera 10? The HD2 comes with Opera 9.7 and it has multitouch (zooming). The newer Opera is much nicer looking and the browsing experience is smoother, but with no multitouch it's not half as useful as 9.7....
I agree. I'd much rather have 10, but not without multi-touch.
I did try Zooomer, but it didn't work. Besides, it's not the same kind of zooming that Opera 9.7 has.
I'm interested in this too.
Opera 10 doesn't support smooth zooming in the way that 9.5 and 9.7 did. It has only has two levels of zoom: zoomed in and zoomed out. There is nothing in between. So what would you expect pinch-to-zoom to do? I guess you could make it switch between zoomed in and zoomed out states, but a single tap already does that, and is much simpler.
There are multiple zoom levels in Opera 10, in the setting you define the "zoomed" in level.
I would imagine a true or "native" pinch to zoom, would toggle between that level of zoom, from 60-140%...or whatever the levels provided are.
I could use pinch zoom too. Yes, clicking is fine. But some sites have just too big fonts, and some sites just too small.
zoomer works quite well in opera 10...now if we could just get flash working in there i would be happy!
No text reflow, no pinch to zoom, no flash...
I'll keep my 9.7.
on my case i want vibration notifications and the ability to use back button on it
HtcMeo said:
No text reflow, no pinch to zoom, no flash...
I'll keep my 9.7.
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Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
the single touch zoom is a better zooming device imho, its quicker and easier.
for me the text reflow works fine in opera 10, and flash works ok on alot of sites, just tried speedtest.net and it worked fine (albeit a little slow)
fracmo2000 said:
Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
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there is no text reflow on OM10 like the one in Opera 9.7....it's been a major complaint of everyone since the first beta.
Unless one counts the predefined text width length done by OM10 for every web page as text reflow - That's not true text reflow. Text reflow should be dynamic and changed depending on the variable screen width.
fracmo2000 said:
Hmmm, I got text reflow and pinch to zoom (As well as tapping)...but no flash. Try out zoomer, after a practise run...its alright!
Can you share the cab(s) you used in 9.7...everytime I use one it messes up my browsing and I need to reflash...also...if the flash is seperate, can you upload that too? I liked the one I got with my hd2 before I flashed it haha
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I am using the stock ROM (1.66) with Opera 9.7 build 35267.
I have also no flash. For that i use skyfire.
I've read somewhere in their forums someone claim this Opera version was made strictly for hd2.. thus, Opera10 is not an upgrade from 9.7
Different products.
Opera 9.7 gives me the best experience on hd2.
Used Opera 10 with Zoomer but i dont like the little screen at bottom.
It is just NOT p2z if u use zoomer.
I stick to 9.7.
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is there a hack where that we can zoom out more when we'll browsing? i set it to smallest, but it's still big in my opinion. yes, i did search the forum before posting
If your runnning WM6 then try the WM6.1 patch.
MM
You could always use Opera Mini, much better. I can honestly say I only use PIE for YouTube (YTPocket) because I can only run flv content through it.
Switch to Opera Mini.
like MAX said, try upgrading tothe wm6.1 PIE. it gives you the option to zoom all way out and see the entire page.
after trying the wm6.1 IE cab
after my experience with wm6.1 IE, my browswer lags a bit when scrolling and the zooming was not what I would expect...
it does zoom out all the way and you would have to zoom in and out and in again to view other sections of the website. I only need for it to zoom out far enough so that I can scroll. You can't scroll when you zoom out. The moment you place a mark, it will zoom in. zooming out is hard to read. was there was a reg hack so that I can make the smallest increment to a percentage.
I didn't want to use Opera because it will not work with TCPMP.
By the way, using fTouchSL is so awesome with viewing web pages with your finger, scroll thru your contacts, mesages, etc...good bye stylus. His app is still buggy because left to right, right to left, updown, downup works in interval.
Hello,
just today I tried Skyfire browser for the first time.
Especially interested in flash support...
I didn't see any topics lately regarding this app so I created a new thread.
OK, so it supports flash...
But my question is - does it look so bad-quality on your X1's?
Like a bad graphics/quite pixaleted?
'Cos it doesn't match the OperaMini neither OperaMobile 9.5 graphic quality...
Please let me know!
Yes, rendering in this browser is a flaw. But nice browser anyway. Now I'm waiting for Opera 9.7. That one will kick Skyfire but until then it is the best browser. (Cannot use Mach5...)
oTToToTenTanz said:
Yes, rendering in this browser is a flaw. But nice browser anyway. Now I'm waiting for Opera 9.7. That one will kick Skyfire but until then it is the best browser. (Cannot use Mach5...)
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Thanks! Actually this rendering is just disgusting.
Also, it doesn't seem having the picture download ability?
I could download all the pictures I wanted. I just went to google and used google images and downloaded them there. It downloads all the stuff in your "my files" folder. I like that function.
Maybe you want to try Mach5. Currently this is a free beta with some more media abilities. I cannot use this mach5, don't ask me why.
Greets
oTToToTenTanz said:
I could download all the pictures I wanted. I just went to google and used google images and downloaded them there. It downloads all the stuff in your "my files" folder. I like that function.
Maybe you want to try Mach5. Currently this is a free beta with some more media abilities. I cannot use this mach5, don't ask me why.
Greets
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Thanks, but what is "used google images and downloaded them there".
I don't see any download function in skyfire.....
the images are clearly scaled from wqvga 400x240
use mach5 its a lot better than skyfire but its not gonna be free
THE GRIZZ said:
the images are clearly scaled from wqvga 400x240
use mach5 its a lot better than skyfire but its not gonna be free
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Thx... Apparently scaled pictures are the last thing I need.
Currently OperaMini scales them when saving what is SH..T when you use an advenced device.
Anyway too many browsers. Seems I'll stick with Opera,
looks like they're still the best. The quality of it just kills probably any other solutions.
Skyfire is fast but looks very bad on X1. I suppose Mach5 is not thaaaat better.
All of the concern here is caused just by one thing - using my FlashLite 3.1 plugin is very buggy on my stock Opera 9.5, it's the thing which crashes.
The rest of this browser is just outstanding.
I suppose Mach5 is not thaaaat better
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give it a try its a lot better than skyfire
also consider using more than one browser
i use opera(wifi) and ucweb(cell)
THE GRIZZ said:
give it a try its a lot better than skyfire
also consider using more than one browser
i use opera(wifi) and ucweb(cell)
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Well I generally use OMini which is marvellous in most cases,
plus OMobile 9.5 for flash and on WiFi...
try mach 5 browser. it's hella sweet.
In my oppinion Skyfire is the worst of all browsers. The rendering quality is optimized for ugly low end devices and the advantage of the X1 with its WVGA screen to be able to read pages without zooming in is totally lost.
Opera disappoints me as well. Rendering quality is perfect, but I often can't click links without zooming in first or i have to click a million times till it works. The Soft-Keyboard pops up all the time what makes no sense at all in landscape mode with a hardware keyboard.
At the moment I'm using Netfront. No problem clicking Links, same rendering quality as Opera, no soft-keyboard popping up and it starts 5x faster than Opera.
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In my oppinion Skyfire is the worst of all browsers. The rendering quality is optimized for ugly low end devices and the advantage of the X1 with its WVGA screen to be able to read pages without zooming in is totally lost.
Opera disappoints me as well. Rendering quality is perfect, but I often can't click links without zooming in first or i have to click a million times till it works. The Soft-Keyboard pops up all the time what makes no sense at all in landscape mode with a hardware keyboard.
At the moment I'm using Netfront. No problem clicking Links, same rendering quality as Opera, no soft-keyboard popping up and it starts 5x faster than Opera.
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Lol, I thought they only make it for feature phones.
But apparently no Flash support?
Opera Mini rules!!!!
Ok here goes,
I prefer IE to Opera because,
1. It plays flash video natively, not only does it play flash video (even two at a time!!! Now thats how to show off to your iphone buddies down the pub ) but panning around a page that contains flash works smoothly as well, as I've enabled flash in Opera too and to be honest disabled it again as it was pants! I couldn't scroll around without weird glitches all over the place.
2.) It's way smoother, scrolling and zooming, I dont think Opera is using any kind of GPU acelleration but IE does.
Now here's the big Con,
No pinch to zoom! serriously I've searched the forum and cant find any way of re-eanbling pinch to zoom in IE as it was in the pre release ROM's. Surely theres a hack to bring pinch to zoom back to IE, have I missed it??
I've just installed and tried this.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
As with the previous Beta, the menus look great, are very finger friendly and the start page is fantastic and customisable.
However I am now unable to turn to landscape. I can't find a setting for this but I'm sure in the previous beta I was able to do this without tweaking.
The graphics look great and it now supposedly supports Flash. Youtube was ok, though I still feel the resolution is far from good enough. But I was unable to play music in myspace flashplayers or view videos on Kontraband.
The final major downside for me is that they still haven't sorted pinch to zoom on this browser.
it's getting better but still more work to be done. I think I'm going to roll back to the earlier version.
Until pinch zoom is implemented Opera 10 on the HD2 is irrelevent without a stylus. There are some things you need to zoom close into to finger press or use the fine tip of a stylus for. The currently limited zoom of 10 makes this impossible on some pages for people with large fingers.
Yes .. some pages just need a bit of zoom in, some just a bit of zoom out. It seems however free zoom is not part of Opera 10 at all.
But majority of the sites do work well. The text is fit properly into the window without any need for horizontal scrolling. And flash support is a definite plus. Even I would like to use pinch to zoom, but still feel that the new opera is a good all purpose browser which doesn't makes me shift to my iphone for web browsing. And lastly, if you don't already know, you can apply Pinch to Zoom tweak in BsB for Opera!. It works well for me.
gags9999 said:
But majority of the sites do work well. The text is fit properly into the window without any need for horizontal scrolling. And flash support is a definite plus. Even I would like to use pinch to zoom, but still feel that the new opera is a good all purpose browser which doesn't makes me shift to my iphone for web browsing. And lastly, if you don't already know, you can apply Pinch to Zoom tweak in BsB for Opera!. It works well for me.
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Yeah, I even use BsB Tweaks to enable pinch to zoom for Opera Mini 5 Beta 2... It does work, BUT it is not NATIVE pinch to zoom: It will enlarge the whole app (including Menus etc) and not just the page. But for those situations where you need to tap a check box that is far too small to hit without zooming in, even the non native pinch to zoom works great!
Yes, the tweak does take care of some zoom tuning necessary for the tasks not adequately covered by the tap zoom. I myself use tap zoom and use pinch zoom only for fine adjustments. Best of both world's with flash thrown in the bargain!
I actually want to go back to the previous beta. I'm using the bsb tweak to zoom but I don't find it works that well to be honest. very fiddly and double-tap zooming seems better.
craigpyro said:
I've just installed and tried this.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
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uhm, in this thread you can find a comfortably repacked version of opera mobile 10b3 with promptless cab and included flash lite... and I'm using it instead dof the bundled 9.7 since a week or so
ephestione said:
uhm, in this thread you can find a comfortably repacked version of opera mobile 10b3 with promptless cab and included flash lite... and I'm using it instead dof the bundled 9.7 since a week or so
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does the Beta 3 repackaged with flash, support pinch and zoom?
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
MidnightDraven said:
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
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that is opera 9.7, not opera 10
jigners said:
does the Beta 3 repackaged with flash, support pinch and zoom?
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no it does not
MidnightDraven said:
Am I missing something?
I have the same standard Opera installed from day one (i.e preinstalled)
and can pinch zoom the webpage, very well in fact.
and no, i havent installed any tweaks cab's or modded the registry.
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That's Opera 9.7. We're talking about Opera 10 beta 3, a new release in development from Opera. HTC will need to take Opera 10 (when it is released) and add their pinch-zooming functionality to it before (and if they choose to) update the HD2 with it.
Ah ok.
My mistake.
Has anyone noticed how the Opera browser provided with the HD2 doesn'r reflow text correctly when you zoom in or out on text?
For example go to the bbc.com website and find an article on the main page. Then zoom in. It reflows fine. However if you then go into the actual story from the front page reflow to keep all the cahcracters on the screen rather than you neededing to scoll left to right stops working. Then when you go back to the main page the reflow is still not working?
I have tried this on multiple sites and get the same result ! I also tried another HD2 and the same thing happens.
The iphone and Safari does this without fault. Am I missing something that I need to set or is my experience different to everyone else?
I don't want to use skyfire because it comes with different limitations. Is the later version of Opera (v.10) any better in this respect?
I also notice that there isn't a Opera Mobile 10 for the HD2 !? Anyone know where I can get this?
alecs said:
Has anyone noticed how the Opera browser provided with the HD2 doesn'r reflow text correctly when you zoom in or out on text?
For example go to the bbc.com website and find an article on the main page. Then zoom in. It reflows fine. However if you then go into the actual story from the front page reflow to keep all the cahcracters on the screen rather than you neededing to scoll left to right stops working. Then when you go back to the main page the reflow is still not working?
I have tried this on multiple sites and get the same result ! I also tried another HD2 and the same thing happens.
The iphone and Safari does this without fault. Am I missing something that I need to set or is my experience different to everyone else?
I don't want to use skyfire because it comes with different limitations. Is the later version of Opera (v.10) any better in this respect?
I also notice that there isn't a Opera Mobile 10 for the HD2 !? Anyone know where I can get this?
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Here is Opera 10 for the HD2. I don't have a problem with reflow on my device, but then again there are something like 10+ versions of Opera 9.7 floating about.
Have a look here for all the different Opera 9.7 versions, see which works best for you.
*Edit* I use version 35964, it seems to work fine for me.
Its dependant on which build your using......
the one on the t mobile stock rom was perfect.....
I just tried a cleanex rom and opera was not as slick as I was used to....
Im off to try an energy rom and see what thats like.......
Thanks for the information. I have a standard HTC rom and the phone is from the UK.
ROM version 1.66.405.2
Radio version 2.06.51.07
Opera Mobile version 9.7 Build 35627
I'll try downloading the latest version of Opera 10. Thanks.
Just one last thing. I updated my version of Opera so it could play flash with the Flash. Will this install put in an additional version of opera or overwrite the current one?
Does this version natively support Flash?
alecs said:
Just one last thing. I updated my version of Opera so it could play flash with the Flash. Will this install put in an additional version of opera or overwrite the current one?
Does this version natively support Flash?
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It will overwrite the version you have installed. I should think it plays flash, I am not certain as I don't use flash on my HD2 (I assume you mean 9.7), Opera 10 supports it natively for sure.
Thanks for the answers, I have just loaded version 10. Forgive the noob questions....
OMG, It doesn't have pinch to zoom !!!!!!!!!!! Reflow doesn't work because it is set to a double tap zoom and the text seems to left justify too much so the text is cut in half and you have to scroll over to the left! And the Zoom is way to high. I know you can set it to certain zoom levels but its one zoom in and one zoom out. Thats not very good in my book.
Also the settings available seem far less than there were with 9.7.
Also is there any way to change the default search engine from google?
Lastly, is there any way to set vibrate to happen when you click on a link.
I also went to youtube and it doesn't seem to play flash
Not sure I think version 10 is an improvement at the moment. Is there a thread somwhere that talks about opera 10 on xda?
Its pure personal preference, I tried 10 and didnt like it, mainly due to pinch to zoom and reflow......... the flash is tempremental... I got youtube working but other flash content didnt........
Theres no harm in having both 10 and 9.7........
In this case you can have your cake and eat it..........
For flash I'd reccomend skyfire........its quite slow and the ui is ugly and dated but it works 95% of the time as far as flash is concerned......... again though its all down to personal preference...........
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