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I will dump the wm6.1 rom for you guys, and provide you with a kitchen with some packages you can use.
I will do so for all available languages that is available with official wm6.1
But,that is gonna be quite time consuming, and I hope that you understand that I ask this in return:
Any small donation for the time I use on that will be of help.
I dont say that its required, not at all. I am not doing this for money.
But the number of hours I spend on this is getting pretty high.
I will do this project either you donate or not.
cheers

Great itje. I recommend you do an english version first, so people can test and evaluate it. Try to make it "noob-proof".
I've used udK's kitchen before and that one was quite easy to figure out, so if you can make a simpler one, it would be great.

Really great, thanks or all the time you spend for our polaris, if you need help just ask, i would be happy to help.(translation in french for example)
Thanks.

As I can see, there are many german guys around here (me included) so that a german version always makes sense

well, thx for offering help
Great
The kitchen tools, I am not sure how I wanna make it. Perhaps I will base on whats allready out there, but im leaning to making one/rebuilding the one I have (its not "noob friendly"). That depends on many things.
I will ofcourse start with wwe.
The base for the rom will be language clean,you will only need to apply the correct language package.
The OEM, XIP and SYS will be unaltered. They will be provided as they come official.
I will add in packages to use
I will write a basic beginner tutorial with images.
I will provide links to other helpfull stuff like packages, porting guides, additional tools, graphics.
I will try and help sorting out issues with the kitchen
Perhaps I might consider adding some of my own packages as a bonus.
I will not: (please dont take this the wrong way)
-Help you fix your kitchen when you mess it up, I am counting on the users will attend active in the thread helping those who needs it
-I cant provide you personal help. So dont pm me or add me to your msn about helping you personally because you donated or something. I do not have the time to do so.
cheers

sounds great, I´m looking forward to the next step towards a perfect device, namely cooking my own ROMs
Just one question: What about things like 3D drivers or other system parts like this, do you include this topic in your tutorial as well ?
regards,
Martin

I'd like to try cooking, would be great if your package would work with Vista, otherwise i'll take my old notebook with XP from cellar

Oh udk just release new kitchen in multilang

m.schmidler said:
sounds great, I´m looking forward to the next step towards a perfect device, namely cooking my own ROMs
Just one question: What about things like 3D drivers or other system parts like this, do you include this topic in your tutorial as well ?
regards,
Martin
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hehe, well Im not gonna create a life time project here
to all:
Tutorial will be basic, very basic.
But I will do as I wrote earlier; provide links to where you can get information and how to's.

imfloflo said:
Oh udk just release new kitchen in multilang
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Thats great
Then I abandon my project

Bro,
Watching the speed of your projects, think you have worked a lot these days....suggest you a vacation!
Gadgets can kill you soon!
great efforts! Congrats!

epimazzo said:
Bro,
Watching the speed of your projects, think you have worked a lot these days....suggest you a vacation!
Gadgets can kill you soon!
great efforts! Congrats!
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DOG=Death Of Gadgets
Hehe, thx my friend
mmm where to go on vacation??
HTC factory? Microsoft HK?
cheers, im off to my daytime fully paid job

What is the best ROM for HTC HD2?

I'm using "EnergyROM 23541/21892" and I'm looking for something better and faster !

I have to say it's pretty confusing and overwhelming when you arrive here. Couldn't answer this myself, there should be a poll thread like there are on Modaco to help newbies.

This again, why dont you start trying some to see what you like...they are all good

For cutting edge ROMs - look at Miri's or Dutty's HG ROMs
For super clean - look at CleanEx (new ROM but already looks like it could be a goodun)

This is all subjective to personal opinion and taste. Best advice is to read through some of the posts and try for yourself.

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Definitely the ARTEMIS !!

So indeed this is where a poll would be useful, look at all those different answers!

I think rather than a 'what is best' it would be much better to have a comparison page where all the chefs could update with the important information and a link to their forum page - so for example it would have a table with the chef name, driver version, manila version, rom version etc... and perhaps a few key points such as applications added/removed from stock ROM...
A first point of call so you can quickly see who has released a new ROM, and see its details
What this should NOT include is any star rating/number of downloads etc...

This is an easy question to answer, I think!
For any user unwilling to do a bit of research and learn about differences between ROM's, the best ROM is obviously the one they already have!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631042

Another thing...
I'm using "EnergyROM 23541/21892" and I'm looking for something better and faster !

Lesha_sh said:
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the hd2 can't have any preferences, you on the other hand might have some.
thus, the question becomes 'which of the roms might be the best for me?'
so the solution my friend, lies entirely in your hands
happy flashing mate

this will be closed v soon. i have seen many threads on this topic they all closed. so u have to try ur self and find what is the best. tast r difarent. for me Dutty's HG

Thats like asking
"What is the best console" or even "What is the best programming language".
Simply put, it comes down to personal opinion, while one person might rate a rom good for its long battery life, another person rates the rom bad because it didnt come with his favorite video player installed (just examples, i know battery life is more related to radio, and you can install apps on all roms)
You could however ask people to write reviews, but theres already a site for that http://xdaroms.com/ and i gotta admit thats not very actively updated/reviewed.
Personally, im always very pleased with Artemis roms, if your looking for the ram or cpu trick, forget i mentioned it, but if your looking for speed and stability alongside the latest wm and manila, check out the thread (read peoples replys a bit/read changelog/look at screens to get an idea of the rom)
The first time it can be a little scary to flash your phone, but after a while you will get the hang of it, its really not that hard or dangerous, just read the thread about flashing.
As long as you read the (help & specific rom) threads, it'll be just fine

I agree... If like me, you need a ROM which allows for Chinese Input, you become more limited in your options... so it really depends on what you need....

I am a bit surprised to see a request like "searching a faster and better ROM".
You should ask different questions, eg. I need this and that in a ROM, which
ones come with it? Even better, do a search yourself!
Dozens of ROMs are available. All of them are fast, all of them are good.
Hundreds of different answers are possible.
If you feel that your device is slow with the ROM you are using, there could be other reasons:
- bad flash
- defective device
I just tell this because after having flashed something like 50 different ROMs over the past three months, not any single one of them made my HD2 slow.

ROM geared towards EYE CANDY, & Performance ?

ROM geared towards EYE CANDY, & Performance ?
I know I may be upsetting some people with this thread and I wish to not do so, so I appologize if I am ahead of time... but I have been doing alot of searching and reading and with all of these cooked roms now, I cannot decide which one to use or which ones to try first...so I was thinking -I would like to know which ones are more geared toward Eye Candy? And which ones are more geared towards performance / stability? Is there one geared towards both? (I would like the most possibly eye candy...at least just to try it out )...
Any recommendations or anything of the such ?
Again, I am sorry if this is a bad thread to start... really REALLY do not want to upset anyone, I appreciate all the work done here -really, and I am currently studying computer science programming so I really do understand and respect the work done here and one day would love to be able to contribute, but with this being my first time back to win mo in a longgg time, I need a little advice to get back into the recent times of winMo.... please help ?

For eye candy, try EnergyROM by NRGZ28.
For Stability, I usually goto Dutty's releases.
For Speed, any clean 2.10 based rom is very quick... I prefer Tom_Condons.

Thank you...
I am sure there are others out there though so if anyone else would like to recommend some that fit my request - please by all means do so...

for both eye candy and performance, the L26 Leo Power is the one.

thank you very much! I will surely be working with all of these recomendations once I receive my HD2 ! =)
Any other recommendations are welcomed as well as greatly appreciated..

I don't think any of the chef's here try to make a slow ugly ROM!
I'm currently trying waterbears ROM, some seriously intersting icons on this one!

I have tried about 10 to 15 different ROMS in the last months and I`ve decided to stick with "Lost In Asia". It hasn`t had any compatibility problems with any CABs and it`s fast and reliable.

Study always Study
its been long time(almost a year) i didnt post here just watch and learn from peoples query request and suggestion. i am in a same position like you... My HD2 is coming within a week may be i should let you know what i planned, i check and filter by highest people view in HD2 ROM Development and found some names i can mention now which ofcourse i must try out, so if you want you can give shot. but dont forget to study the sticky post and before going to jump please ready those post might give you better idea first. they are very usefull..
1. Artemis
2. NRGZ28
3. MIRI (Not sure where to find them but i read all the post )
4. Laurentius26
5. Dutty (Not sure where to find them but i read all the post )
6. Tom_Condon
and many more...

EnergyRom = Fast and Eye Candy
Topix = Fast and Stable and Reliable (You can always install various mods / themes according to your flavour)
But agree with the previous comment... there is no one out there who is aiming for ugly and slow roms! 1Ghz you cant do much to slow it down
My preference would be to get a clean fast and simple rom and ad mods of my choice,!
Cheers,
Faisal.

Agreed!!!
i am fully agreed with faisalee. dont want to hurt you but as i can call myself noob and in my condition i would go for highest rate ROMs then i might go for extra light ROMs and install wht i want... since they are available in CABS..
EneryROm with Cookies and max manila is realy eye candy though...

rasumia said:
its been long time(almost a year) i didnt post here just watch and learn from peoples query request and suggestion. i am in a same position like you... My HD2 is coming within a week may be i should let you know what i planned, i check and filter by highest people view in HD2 ROM Development and found some names i can mention now which ofcourse i must try out, so if you want you can give shot. but dont forget to study the sticky post and before going to jump please ready those post might give you better idea first. they are very usefull..
1. Artemis
2. NRGZ28
3. MIRI (Not sure where to find them but i read all the post )
4. Laurentius26
5. Dutty (Not sure where to find them but i read all the post )
6. Tom_Condon
and many more...
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Agree !!!
Artemis is the best (my opinion), fast, stable, smooth.
Here is link for MIRI and DUTTY ROMs.
http://htcpedia.com/soft/rom.html
Cheers

I was wondering...
I was wondering, after looking at all the .cab files/tweaks and themes available, what does a ROM's 'EYE CANDY' do that one of those files could not do? Or, what is better in a ROM's eye candy, or what kind of eye candy can a ROM actually do ?
Just a little confused -so much information!
Thanks in advance... and sorry if this is a lame question...

Smaberg's Touch Extreme ROMS are the fastest and most stable to me.
He uses his own custom drivers so things run real smooth

Its all about EnergyRom

[REF Idea]*Chef input required please* ROM Spec & content - easy choice & comparison.

[REF Idea]*Chef input required please* ROM Spec & content - easy choice & comparison.
Hi all HD2 XDA'ers
As we know, the "Which ROM is best" question can be so subjective that no single thread or poll can accurately help you make a decision. Also they get closed and locked pretty quick by the mods.
The users and flashers need some method of selecting ROMs, or at least prioritizing which we try first, based on their individual requirements.
In addition, and perhaps more importantly, the ROM chefs have no standardised way to illustrate or describe exactly what their ROM is like to prospective users. The many posts and threads do not enable any form of comparison.
Here's an idea for anyone willing to take up the challenge:
Unfortunately I can't dedicate the time and effort required, however I know it would be infinitely useful to many users and cooks alike. (Maybe even the mods would find it a useful way of stopping the constant questions, threads and polls of which rom!)
Create a table detailing all the specific (or generic) characteristics of each ROM. Then all chefs, new or experienced, can add their ROMs to the table.
Table would begin with high level details (for a quick overview); then possibly expand to include subtleties and very specific details.
First we would need to create a benchmark using the latest STOCK ROM. This is what the specs of cooked ROMs will be measured against. It should also define all stock apps, etc. for accurate comparisons and to assist the cooks in completing the table for their own ROMs.
For example:​
ROM Chef's username
ROM Name/Version
Fully Loaded / Minimalist
Which custom apps included [free text list/csv]
Stock apps cut from Rom [free text list/csv]
What Task Manager used (if any)?
Ringtones stripped? [Y/N]
Media/Wallpapers included
Tweaks included [free text list/csv - or single row for each expected tweak]
Theme changed [description]
Manila version
Cookie/MaxManilla included? [Y/N]
WM Version [6.5 ; 6.5.3 ; 6.5.5]
SYS/XIP build
Free memory after flash (MB)
...and on... (the above is just off the top of my head - it would certainly need more thought, massive expansion and sub-divisions.)
Perhaps start as a thread, work it to a useable format, gathering feedback, comments, suggestions and requests, then move to the Wiki. I recon, if the format and fields are all dimensioned extensively and well enough, the resulting table/wiki would be adopted across all devices.
I would sinserely love to do this myself and regret just pushing the idea out there. I really hope that someone who's heart is really in it, will be willing to take this up to the benefit of all HD2 owners who wish to stick out WM6.5x despite the temptations of other devices, OS's and ports.
All the best,
Hirshy
Information Systems Security Senior Specialist - Networks
T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

basically like distrowatch for linux systems? with the package/AKU/radio/Memory/custom apps on the y key, ROM name on the X key. And a blank space in the table where the package is removed?
Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?

chris_ah1 said:
Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?
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+1 id like to know that too

chris_ah1 said:
Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?
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+1 id like to know that too
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Hmmm, what would you guys like me to do with it?...
I have contacts in the Handset teams for testing and procurement. As my particular job role is impacted by the 'quality?' of their firmware, I regularly feedback required changes and user input. Though to be honest, they're unlikely to care much about any roms other than their own customised garbage!
Have you seen the state of T-Mobile's stock ROMs? At least on Android they get OTA updates quite quickly and in-line with the HTC development branch.
However on WinMo it's the regular old story that they release a device and forget about the bugs and updates.
I work in their Network Security team and am becoming more involved in Terminal Security (devices and whether anything compromises the Network or User Data in terms of confidentiality, integrity and availability). I test all new T-Mobile products, services and network features on their respective platforms.
For example on WinMo, there are the new WnW4 Widgets which run from the Opera run-time environment.
So I guess in that respect, as a favour to the community I would be willing to add my own professional input into whether there are any Security or TMO functionality concerns (from the user's perspective) with the ROMs...
My input here isn't for any professional purposes, I am just a member of the community that has worked at T-Mobile for 11 years and has ties to various contacts.
If there are any concerns for my intentions here (which I hope not) I have personally spoken to Dutty Throy about a year and a half ago to provide him with a contract deal so he could hopefully continue his great work at much less expense. I'm certain he would vouch for me...
Regards,
Hirshy
P.S. (If you read this Throy, it seems that you have since moved to Voda, so maybe T-Mob wasn't cutting it even with the deal - I suppose half-price sh!t is still sh!t !)

Yep, cant believe this hasn't been done yet, would totally reduce wasted threads

Big problem is the rate at which roms get updated.
But i see your point that it would be useful.
It's a helluva lot of work though given the number of roms.
Just off the top of my head I can think of 20roms.
And in the past chefs have been slow to submit their roms to a couple of the rom databases that already exist for swift comparison. I do think that this is better than one of those sites. You would have to get a team together and assign five to ten roms each to watch and update a spreadsheet because it's not going to work relying on the chef's input.
but it really might be useful - e.g. Topix 1.5.8 was based on 21898, but now Topix 1.5.9 is based on 21897 and without the weather function. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
Then you also have the question as to whether to include the htcpedia-only roms in the list.

chris_ah1 said:
Big problem is the rate at which roms get updated.
But i see your point that it would be useful.
It's a helluva lot of work though given the number of roms.
Just off the top of my head I can think of 20roms.
And in the past chefs have been slow to submit their roms to a couple of the rom databases that already exist for swift comparison. I do think that this is better than one of those sites. You would have to get a team together and assign five to ten roms each to watch and update a spreadsheet because it's not going to work relying on the chef's input.
but it really might be useful - e.g. Topix 1.5.8 was based on 21898, but now Topix 1.5.9 is based on 21897 and without the weather function. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
Then you also have the question as to whether to include the htcpedia-only roms in the list.
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Well, I for one would gladly help with reporting from the roms i test, and it could be nice if a team where assembled to do so, because this whole forum is one big mess, where its impossible to get a little overview with all the threads and all those roms..
One thread to collect information about roms, builds, radios and so on - Would tidy up a lot! And, it would have to be a team of people who are able to stay objective, so that its not a contest of which rom is best..
If this is going to happen - pm me

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Yep, cant believe this hasn't been done yet, would totally reduce wasted threads
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no it wouldnt, people would still jump the gun and start new pointless threads

Possible way to get started
This could be accomplished using a simple spreadsheet format.
One "Mod" would be in control of the master sheet that would be posted for download.
Team members would be responsible for one or more ROM's as they choose to participate. Submitted to the Mod.
They would get the official blank spreadsheet with labels from the Mod with directions for data consistency.
Only the Mod could add/change the format upon request of the team when new apps or features arise.
Data would be kept as simple as possible in the cells. X=includes, blank=not includes, version number, etc.
Each ROM version would have a column of it's own. Versions could be limited to "last three" or whatever.
Column would have date of posting to show how current the data was.
Most of the work would be front loaded to bring us up to date.
Cut and paste would make this fairly easy for the team and the Mod.
Comparison would then be as easy as reading a chart.
The end user could delete columns and compare ROM's he is interested in.
Start of Col. A labels (add your ideas and let's see if we can come up with a consensus.)
ROM Chef
ROM Name
Version
Build
Language
Radio Required (this could be RadA, RadB, Rad C to Rad F, all picked from a list at the bottom of the sheet)
Theme
Manila version
Cookie
MaxManilla
WM Version
Free memory after flash (MB)
App name 1
App name 2
App name 3
To app infinitum

Well its an awesome IDEA, I am ready to support by all means..!!!

I have already have a site dedicated to filtering roms located at www.xdaroms.com. I am open to ideas to make rom filtering even better.

Great idea!! This is a big hold up for a lot of users: they don't have time to try 20 ROMS, test them and figure out which they want... This is also a hold up for me, I can try some ROMS, like 3 or 4 but I want to know which ROMS I would have to start with... I am not going to take a "risk" flashing HSPL and not having time to install ROMS on it and so....

bowpay said:
I have already have a site dedicated to filtering roms located at www.xdaroms.com. I am open to ideas to make rom filtering even better.
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+1 that was what I was going to say there is no need for this idea when there is already a comprehensive site that does it.

re xdaroms: at least for the hd2 there are quite a few chefs and roms missing. plus a distrowatch approach where you can see them all lined up is more handy with only one entry for the latest ROM visible.
This means there is room for a seperate glance-database.

chris_ah1 said:
re xdaroms: at least for the hd2 there are quite a few chefs and roms missing. plus a distrowatch approach where you can see them all lined up is more handy with only one entry for the latest ROM visible.
This means there is room for a seperate glance-database.
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Part of the problem that any website or utility we have is the fact that cooks don't update forum(XDA) or rom(xdaroms) posts correctly. Some like to overwrite old posts or roms and update the build version which causes problems for viewing a history of build versions. I do encourage all the cooks to create new rom posts for each new build. I am also going to allow cooks to import an old rom as a starting point which should make the rom posting a little less tedious.
One solution for showing a build history is to do a group by on the list showing all roms for a paticular version however it will only work if cooks update accordingly.
I don't think this issue can be easily resolved untill I get more cooks on board on xdaroms.com and we can start to formalize a rom posting technique.
Again I am open to ideas and hopefully we can come up with a really nice easy to use way to publish roms.

bowpay said:
Part of the problem that any website or utility we have is the fact that cooks don't update forum(XDA) or rom(xdaroms) posts correctly. Some like to overwrite old posts or roms and update the build version which causes problems for viewing a history of build versions. I do encourage all the cooks to create new rom posts for each new build.
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Hi bowpay, nice site - sorry I hadn't seen it before.
I think one of the greatest obstacles is exactly that - it is another site. Between XDA-Dev and HTCpedia, users and cooks have enough posts to contend with...
What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
I think cooks would find that easier to represent their new roms using this tabular format than constantly changing posts. The single proviso is that is must be complete and total representation of all variables that the ROM might have.
Please can any Chefs reading this, share their opinions/support and post whether they would adopt such a method for keeping users informed of their ROMs and new versions.
In any event, two things could happen:
The cooks utilize a common table for listing ROMs and versions. This would be analogous to a vendor providing a spec-sheet for their product.
Or (if not the cooks) users would create the records and constantly update the fields as they play with the ROM, use it and find the specs. This is comparable to independent reviewers detailing the specs of a product after the vendor has supplied it to them.
Either way would work and be greatly beneficial.
One field per record could even have a hyperlink for download and link to thread for images and discussion.
No objections to XdaRoms assisting the endeavour as it seems to be their speciality - it's all in the title! However for mass exposure and adoption it really needs to be on the cooks first-stop website. I think that is here...?
All the best,
Hirshy

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Hi bowpay, nice site - sorry I hadn't seen it before.
I think one of the greatest obstacles is exactly that - it is another site. Between XDA-Dev and HTCpedia, users and cooks have enough posts to contend with...
What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
I think cooks would find that easier to represent their new roms using this tabular format than constantly changing posts. The single proviso is that is must be complete and total representation of all variables that the ROM might have.
Please can any Chefs reading this, share their opinions/support and post whether they would adopt such a method for keeping users informed of their ROMs and new versions.
In any event, two things could happen:
The cooks utilize a common table for listing ROMs and versions. This would be analogous to a vendor providing a spec-sheet for their product.
[*]Or (if not the cooks) users would create the records and constantly update the fields as they play with the ROM, use it and find the specs. This is comparable to independent reviewers detailing the specs of a product after the vendor has supplied it to them.
Either way would work and be greatly beneficial.
One field per record could even have a hyperlink for download and link to thread for images and discussion.
No objections to XdaRoms assisting the endeavour as it seems to be their speciality - it's all in the title! However for mass exposure and adoption it really needs to be on the cooks first-stop website. I think that is here...?
All the best,
Hirshy
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I hear ya I think that its going to be difficult for XDA to adopt this format due to not having things in place and being geared as a forum. I set out to help the XDA community and each day XDARoms is growing. We are going to make it easier to create forum posts by creating a BBCode Generator and our overall goal is to get cooks to post roms first at XDARoms then click the forum post generator link on a paticular rom. The post generator will generate BBCode or HTML for XDA or Pedia or any forum for that matter (Copy and paste).
Our niche is Roms so cooks will naturally want to post roms on the site because we geared the site towards cooks and it will simplify the rom posting for all websites. It may take time but I am dedicated to making rom posting as easy as possible. After all I am not just the president I am also a member (Hair club for men). lol
I really like where this post is going so any other chefs like to chime in and give us your 2cents? Much appreciated.
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What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
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When I get a little more time I will take a look at the rom posting process and use some of your suggestions. The database schema is all setup to do exactly that it will just take a little time to make the UI behave.

Well...I think it can be automated... is there a command line tool to extract all such information from a nbh file ? Can someone point me to anything similar ?
My idea : After a upload, automation extracts all such information and automatically appends to the spreadsheet/online sheet...so less work for the webmaster and the chef

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In addition, and perhaps more importantly, the ROM chefs have no standardised way to illustrate or describe exactly what their ROM is like to prospective users. The many posts and threads do not enable any form of comparison.
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Why not use the wiki for that?
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but it really might be useful - e.g. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
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Don't know how you came to that conclusion but you are certainly wrong. Don't spread wrong information mate.

seriously WHY aren't new threads created for new ROM's

don't the ROM geniuses create a NEW thread everytime they create a NEW ROM!!!!!
seriously wading thur loads of pages of an OLD ROM thread about NEW ROM and trying to find the NEW ROM download is exhausting

I'd also like to see a new thread for new ROMs (at least for 'milestones'). The threads of the old ROMs could stay open for a couple of days after the new one is released and then it could be closed with the advice to use the new ROM from that point of time on and with the advice that the old version won't get any support anymore. I think that would be also more comfortable for the chefs. Same with e.g. the CHT-thread a.s.o. - no offense, only an idea

I disagree. There is no need to wade through pages of posts to find the links as in 99.9% of the time they are in the first few posts. Also, many of the little quirks and their fixes often carry over from rom to rom. It's bad enough already with the continual stream of repetitive questions, just imagine how bad it will get if the history of these fixes needs to be repeated in each new thread.

I totality agree with you ClydeB1..

No need to. Take your time read carefully (most of the roms have the date of the last ROM), look for the download link. SIMPLES.

I'm in 2 minds about this. I see the benefit of having all information regarding a ROM and its development all in the same thread, but it can also make it difficult to figure out which versions have which bugs.
I have been reading about ROMs a few times and been turned off becasue of a bunch of bug reports, only to later find they were talking about an ancient version.

Single thread is better
wazaaappp said:
No need to. Take your time read carefully (most of the roms have the date of the last ROM), look for the download link. SIMPLES.
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I argee wazaappp. It is actually easier if all the releases are discussed in single thread. This makes it easier to search for particular problem/bug that may have reoccurred in latest rom, which means the solution will be in the same thread instead of multiple thread for each milestone.
The easiest way to get about in rom release threads:
1. Find download links in the 1st page itself
2. All the change logs will be in the 1st page itself
3. Finally go to last page and work your way back few pages and that should be sufficient to get you up to speed with the latest release.
4. When reading any bug report from our fellow Xda members, please check the post date. If older than the latest release date, then most probably it has been fixed or workaround will be posted within few next pages!
Do this and you will agree with us! Hope it helps!

tidus18 said:
I argee wazaappp. It is actually easier if all the releases are discussed in single thread. This makes it easier to search for particular problem/bug that may have reoccurred in latest rom, which means the solution will be in the same thread instead of multiple thread for each milestone.
The easiest way to get about in rom release threads:
1. Find download links in the 1st page itself
2. All the change logs will be in the 1st page itself
3. Finally go to last page and work your way back few pages and that should be sufficient to get you up to speed with the latest release.
4. When reading any bug report from our fellow Xda members, please check the post date. If older than the latest release date, then most probably it has been fixed or workaround will be posted within few next pages!
Do this and you will agree with us! Hope it helps!
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Yes it would help it all NEW ROM is started in a NEW POST
and a link is provided to where the NEW ROM is being discussed, instead of working backward to find the start!!!!

rickyjune said:
Yes it would help it all NEW ROM is started in a NEW POST
and a link is provided to where the NEW ROM is being discussed, instead of working backward to find the start!!!!
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Wow...out of my long explanation, you choose to only read one sentence(item 3)....and disregard all other advantage I pointed out.
Well...too bad thats how it has been all this while and i dont foresee the chefs/mods adding new thread for each milestone release!

To some extent, I can understand the OP´s main point. Especially for newbies,
and maybe even more valid in case of HD2, where the choice of ROMs is massive,
it may take quite some time to find your preferences.
But, after getting used to forums like this, I think it´s great to have one thread
by each chef - this way, it´s much easier for me to find what´s new, or even
to subscribe to my favorite ROM threads.

This will lead to even more littered forum with 9000+ custom ROM threads.
I'd like to see all these custom ROMs in a separate forum so they wouldn't mess with the actual development threads.

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I disagree. There is no need to wade through pages of posts to find the links as in 99.9% of the time they are in the first few posts. Also, many of the little quirks and their fixes often carry over from rom to rom. It's bad enough already with the continual stream of repetitive questions, just imagine how bad it will get if the history of these fixes needs to be repeated in each new thread.
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newbees here should READ! the more one spends time with XDA the more one
will feel the ease of use and browsing through the Thread. So please, if the mods have time, they'll explain the logic behind this.

A new thread is typically created for new ROM's - not for updates to an existing ROM.
Update ROM's are announced in the original thread. The purpose for keeping all of the posts in an existing ROM thread is to help troubleshoot problems that might come up.
HTH,

I reckon Co0kieMonster's hit the nail on the head. Whenever he releases a new version of CHT, he puts a link in the first post saying "version x.x.x.x stuff starts at this post..."
If people don't read the 1st post then I couldn't care less if they end up reading 600 pages. (Let's face it, if they don't read the 1st post, they're probably just gonna post the same repeated and answered rubbish anyway!)

hey, i have a brand new hd2, i did not change anything on it, the rom is original, the spl is original and so on....
i have 1.66 esteurope ROM, if i upgrade the rom to 2.02 or 2.07 or 2.10 can i go back to 1.66?