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First Cooked ROM from Midget_1990 on Saturday!!

OK friends, before you start asking about exact times, I don't know and neither does Midget.
ltxda and myself have been in touch with the rest of the team and our ROM developer Midget.
We could have had a 90% complete ROM uploaded sometime tonight, just to see the extent of the ROM under development, but we advised against this as after all the wait we believe our donators in particular and the rest of the Athena community would rather have a 100% complete ROM worth flashing over our existing ones.
So there it is people. Saturday some time unspecified, we get our first completed cooked ROM form Midget. Don't expect it to be the final ROM though, as some will undoubtedly find something that needs tweaking or added to the base ROM, but given the time Midget has spent on it thus far, we can hope for a pretty stable and fast ROM as I know he spent a lot of time twaeking it.
Happy flashing this weekend.

Any chance of a manifest?

copperwave said:
Any chance of a manifest?
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Probably not, as it's so close to release, but no doubt one will be put together after the initial ROM reaches Final ROM status.

anxiously waiting
I cant wait anxiously waiting

Call it the "Disadvantaged" Rom !!!!!!!
Then we know it is for us peeps who didnt get the official update
Irrespective of the name I cant wait though, better start charging the batteries and take out the memory card so long ....
This actually give us enough time to do backups as well !
Thanks Cant wait

what about the ext-rom? is the problem fixed? is it unhide & unlock? is ther a way to be?
Special tnx Midget! Can't w8 longer.
Cheers, Hirad

today is saturday and still no rom!

yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!

rhedgehog said:
yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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C'mon, tiger! Get your claws back in!

My Bad...Sorry next Saturday 1st September.
Sorry friends I made a mistake. I got in touch with Midget today to check on the progress, to find he's still away from a PC until early next week when he could upload the 90% ROM we told him to hold off from as Saturday would be the day for the Complete 100% ROM.
Stupid me assumed it was this Saturday. I re-checked my txt messages from Midget and indeed he did say 'back early next week and can upload 90% ROM then and complete ROM by Saturday'.
Sorry all, my excitement must have got the better of me.

cool man it's ok we can wait!
Anyway currently for the cooked ROM what's the advantages/disavantages or any items included/excluded? New to this kinda stuff just hope my questions do not seem dumb.

hey guys! cool down! i'm really sorry for that kinda posting! 2 proud of myself... u know? sorry now i really apreciate this situation and this hard working from both of our heroes(Oli & Midget)! and mackaby007 it's not your fault we are all excited to see the first cooked rom for our devices! have nothing to add on this! 2 sorry man.
Cheers, Hirad

what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?

spacecat said:
what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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More like bricks & toast, if you don't know what you're doing!

I think we all just need to calm down and wait patiently for the ROM. Midget did wonders on the Universal, and now we will get the same great ROM style on the Athena - so we wait....
It's not as if we dont have an interim WM6 we cant use? If you're really desperate then bung on the one that's been available for a few months and then do it again when Midget's is ready - otherwise just stop bugging the poor guy!!

Let's prepare for the forthcoming ROMs.
Hi all. I don't know all the details, but I know this much;
Midget has been working on the Dopod u1000 version ROM, but has changed to be a default European ROM (last I spoke to him) and has made optimized it for speed and reliability, getting rid of unnecessary ****e etc.
He was already very close to completion a few weeks back before his PC died on him. So he had to put most of the ROM back together from memory alone, plus the usual setbacks of life.
Expect a new thread for the new 'Cooked ROM' when it arrives. It will be tweaked with some apps included that should be standard in all ROMs.
For those who are new to ROMs and cooked ROMs, look at it like a software container for the Operating system and specially chosen 3rd party apps etc. Once you flash any ROM with a different one, you completely loose all your previous data, except what you have on the MicroDrive (MD).
Now is a good time to get all your favourite .cab files and exe's (for which you need to use Active sync to install them) ready, as you can't use back-ups from apps like Spb Backup or sprite, to restore your old backups onto a new ROM. Well you can, but you'll have lots of corrupted software and may be putting back what was thoughtfully removed from the cooked ROM.
So a cooked ROM is something made up by an individual to replace the default ROM you get from the seller/manufacturer of the device (all THEIR customized crap).
A base ROM is like the absolute essential parts only, i.e. the WM6 ROM and those apps needed to retain the original functionality of the device as when you bought it....like a stripped down version. Then the developer adds what he thinks will make a fast and stable ROM. In this instance the developer Midget_1990 is doing this for the Athena Project, which was formed and funded by many members of Xda developers and some others from other forums and parts of the world, as this is not the common device for most PPC owners to have and we needed help in getting it unlocked (SIM free and capable of having any HTC Athena ROM being flashed to it, without bricking it).
Olipro (Developer 1 and top notch low-level programmer) has already fulfilled his obligation to the project, by developing and releasing the unlocking tools for the Athena and also made our devices virtually unbrickable due to his clever method of Hard SPL patching the Athena. Thanks Olipro.
Midget_1990 (Dev 2, VGA ROM Cooker) is to use his specialist knowledge of the VGA Universal (he's made some great ROMs!) to make an VGA WM6 based cooked ROM which will enhance and improve the basic functionality of the box-standard WM5 Athenas we originally bought. This is somewhat more time consuming, especially as 'WE' the project contributors and community here, have rather varied requests in what we would like to have in this first ROM. So finding the balance of what works best and doing the actual work and in some cases conversions (i.e. TrueVGA compatibility) is what Midget is up against.
As an incentive both developers were given an Athena each for themselves with an understanding between them and the contributors, that this 2 fold objective could be realized.
We're more than half way there with Olipro's Athena Unlocker and we'll soon have completed our objectives once Midget has released the first Cooked ROM...soon amigos.
So....let's be patient just a little longer and continue to play nice, after all, we will still need Midget to support this or future ROMs for the Athena if it still needs tweaking or amending e.g. Athena Project ROM v0.1 or 1.0, if you follow my drift.
Also it was clearly stated that the devs not be hassled or pressured by anyone, but that has already happened...let's hope no more.
Don't get me wrong friends, if any one is unduly rude or derogative towards you, you have every right to retaliate...only it's not in any ones best interest to argue on these types of forums.
Word to the wise; when this or any other developer releases a ROM in the future, we'd do well to read up well, before asking questions that may have been asked dozens of times before and try to point out what does not work with the ROM and why, if you know, or positive suggestions and feedback.
This is my last long post regarding this project. LoL yeah, thank God!! everyone cheers. ROFL. Seriously though, it's been a bit of a struggle but mostly rewarding and made some really cool new buddies on this forum.
Thanks to all of you in the Athena community and beyond, but most of all a big thanks should go to the financial contributors, without whom this project may never have taken off as soon as it did or even at all.
No more to say.
See you around in the forums.
P.S. If you have something negative to say, please PM who you are not happy with and let's keep this forum as a civilized developers forum for all interested parties.
And one more thing, if I may humbly ask all non-new members or visitors to NOT abuse newbies as they are by no means fools just because they are new to this and deserve our respect.
As others have mentioned before, if someone posts a stupid question or something that has been asked a thousand times, simply point them to the wiki or give them the right keywords to put in the search engine as the wiki is still under development.
Peace & Unity

well said. you should be a moderator mate.

duttythroy said:
well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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agreed.

wOw mackaby007! TrueVGA compatibility??? is it possible? i can't w8 for! i really suggest high rank admins to make u and some others the admins of athena! hope to see u soon! (not u mackaby007! i'm with our little nutty,sweet, cooked ROM!!!)

Mackaby007 -> Very well said. Thank you.

where can I download a clean WM6 or 6.1?

Tested a couple of cooked roms on my device and want to see what a clean wm6 or 6.1 would be like...

Then look on the WM6 boards, not here.
Sheesh. Doesn't any body's mother teach them to look first, then ask? Mine certainly pounded it into my head.
//Sorry, but I'm in a grumpy mood.

KEVIN88GT
I'm afraid you won't get a totally clean Wm6 rom anywhere on the net or in this forum,as clean roms are only distributed to the manufacturers,vendors or the cellular networks by Microsoft.They add up their own applications and programs as they desire.The closest to a clean rom,but mind it,will still have some applications or programs with are mostly provided by the cooks here in this forum for other cookers to add applications or programs as they wish and desire.Almost all the latest wm6 roms offered for download,also give link to download 'Clean Roms' for cooking,check out all the latest wm6 custom builds roms.
Myrddin Wyllt
Although,this forum believes in 'Seek & Search',but here we also believe in 'courtesy & Politeness' and extend all the help and advise,whatever,we have attained and gained here to other newly joined members and 'Newbies', looking for guidance and help.I think,there was no need for hard words like 'Doesn't any body's mother teach them to look first, then ask?' or Sheeesh !!!,if you are in a 'grumpy mood',No one is compelling you to answer his question or advise. Hope you'll appreciate this !
Cheers!

You could give this ROM a shot and see if you like it. I'm currently using it. It's stable, fast and clean too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367375

Confusion is welcomed with knowledge.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Then look on the WM6 boards, not here.
Sheesh. Doesn't any body's mother teach them to look first, then ask? Mine certainly pounded it into my head.
//Sorry, but I'm in a grumpy mood.
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Myrddin Wyllt once upon a time you was a noobie and didn't know anything, I guess YOUR MOTHER hit you over the head with something. Please respect knowledge and the right for others to obtain it. In the future if you know the answer to a question, just go to a dark room and keep the answer to yourself.

Lots of good ROMS: how to choose?

Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye

HELLO i agree with you..

It's a good idea, but I'm not sure you'll find a quick reply.
The main trouble with the Touch Cruise is it's limited implementation globally. With the only US supporters having to import it, and the high price pretty much everywhere, I've noticed the general Polaris "community" isn't nearly as positive or helpful as the Kaiser thread community is. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is a jerk, but it's frustrating to have come from a device and forum where there were tons of people with a positive attitude, all sharing ideas. Here, it seems like most people just ***** about the device they bought, with only a few people (most in the upgrading forum) looking to make the most of it and improve it.
I've been waiting for someone to release a Diamond rom that would work on the Touch Cruise, simply because I like the analog clock look. But I don't have any real interest to force Office 2007 on myself, as I've used the app and don't see any real improvements over Office 2003. But this post isn't about which version of MS software is best.
Anyway... here's hoping the gurus of this forum stay upbeat, keep up the good work, and someone can "port" the Diamond VGA driver to the qVGA device. On the surface, it seems like a simple idea. But you have to wonder if the video chipset in the Polaris just isn't all that without more horsepower behind it, and maybe a better screen. Maybe that's why the Diamond is the new king of the pile. I'd love to upgrade to it, but just having bought my Polaris in Feb. or so, it will be a LONG time before I can justify ANOTHER new device.
Anyway, my compliments to the masters for all they do, and best wishes to those with a pretty cool phone!

My request is only trying to make an unique post in which all the coders can list their ROMS with the list of apps inlcuded and positive and negavite facts.
So when a new owner of the device came here can choose without loosing his mind in looking for informations in thousands of post.
That's all here....
Bye

gerazzo said:
Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye
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its a good idea. but comparing various roms is a full time job and i'm afraid not many people have that kind of time.

This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373233 has been around for a while with a list of Roms, I think thats the best you are going to get, it's just updated when it can be as far as I can tell but its came in usefull for me. Not sure if you missed it but it's been on the first page for a while. Unless I've missed the point and it's something else you are after?
The polaris is a good device and I've found help and support on these forums but its still quite new. I upgraded from the XDA Orbit and thats only been out just over a year I think, a lot of people bought in to 18 month contracts and so wont be upgrading for a while. I'd just bare with it and if you are unsure of anything, just ask.
My favourite ROM at the moment is Bepe's just because it's win 6.1, fast an clean then I've modified it to the standard I want by adding apps and tweaks. I've tried other roms but they are all at such early stages of development that a lot of them aren't really practical for day to day use as they can be very flakey. This won't last forever though.

Polaris Project

What Happen to the Polaris Project? It's been a while now and it looks like nothing's coming anymore inspite of all the promises. Do you think you've been conned to donate a device purposely for the so called "Top of the notch" ROM?
Olipro came out with the Hard SPL and that makes him a gentleman standing by his words but the so called Polaris Project release did'nt materialize other than a Bepe inspired/modified ROM that's not even worth keeping.
Common guys, speak out!!!!!!!!!!

You should add "I never donated and never will". Then I'll vote...

If you did'nt donate and will never donate then just tick on the last option.

this poll is useless.
donated is donated.
what would happen if olipro never found out how to hardspl this device? he would have a donated device.. would you call the money back? because you are 'not so happy'
these guys spend their free time on this. show some respect!
before i forget, did i mentioned this poll is useless?
regards

elohssanarerauoy said:
What Happen to the Polaris Project? It's been a while now and it looks like nothing's coming anymore inspite of all the promises. Do you think you've been conned to donate a device purposely for the so called "Top of the notch" ROM?
Olipro came out with the Hard SPL and that makes him a gentleman standing by his words but the so called Polaris Project release did'nt materialize other than a Bepe inspired/modified ROM that's not even worth keeping.
Common guys, speak out!!!!!!!!!!
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some people just love to come back and whine constantly. they also forget to search and read whats going on. if you would have then you would know a 5 language 8 version release is coming. try making 40 roms and see how long it takes. its not easy to iron out as many bugs as possible.
edit: also have you noticed that we are at 0.4 right now. that means there already has been a few releases.

Pawel062 said:
some people just love to come back and whine constantly. they also forget to search and read whats going on. if you would have then you would know a 5 language 8 version release is coming. try making 40 roms and see how long it takes. its not easy to iron out as many bugs as possible.
edit: also have you noticed that we are at 0.4 right now. that means there already has been a few releases.
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I love xda-developers! We are communists, and proud of it!
Solidarity brother!

rhov23 said:
I love xda-developers! We are communists, and proud of it!
Solidarity brother!
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members like you keep me and the other cooks going. as we americans say... **** happens.... dates come and go and you can't always keep your word. i have released a few versions already and many people are enjoying them. they asked for a black version so im making and black version with all black skins and a blue version with all blue skins. they asked for a full, notouchflo, a medium, and a lite so they get those too. thats 8 versions there.
then there was other languages so since i work closesly with bepe i took language files from his last rom and updated what i could and made it 5 languages including wwe. thats 40 versions. how many cooks can say they have made that many versions and listen to what the people say as much as i do? theres a few and im happy to be one of them. so like the others i'll take my criticism and work harder because of it.

pawel062,
There are some of us that just wait patiently and don't say anything like me.
So my contribution is to say thanks for all your work and keep it up.
How did your exams go? Any idea yet?

Let's relax
elohssanarerauoy said:
What Happen to the Polaris Project? It's been a while now and it looks like nothing's coming anymore inspite of all the promises. Do you think you've been conned to donate a device purposely for the so called "Top of the notch" ROM?
Olipro came out with the Hard SPL and that makes him a gentleman standing by his words but the so called Polaris Project release did'nt materialize other than a Bepe inspired/modified ROM that's not even worth keeping.
Common guys, speak out!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Guys,
let's relax - it is ALWAYS more work than expected if it come to my experience in programming. Sometimes some people get overexcited or, as seen here, overanxious and frustrated. I would think he didnt mean it as aggressive as it appears.
If you are unhappy with the speed of development, why not speed it up? download a kitchen, etc. and start diving into the matter (there is most of what you need int this forum) and once you have some experience I am sure the cooks can always use a helping hand for some tasks here and there.
This way development gets a boost and the newly involved people will gain insight into the complexity of such a difficult endeavor like cooking a ROM, which will subsequently generate a lot of respect.
From my side I can only say: RESPECT!
and KEEP IT UP!

Johny1fin said:
pawel062,
There are some of us that just wait patiently and don't say anything like me.
So my contribution is to say thanks for all your work and keep it up.
How did your exams go? Any idea yet?
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they went great. did very good on them im working on the roms as we speak. all languages except wwe seem to have 1 issue with the dialer. once its ironed out i'll have to go through the roms once more to see if i didnt overlook anything and i can release.

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they went great. did very good on them im working on the roms as we speak. all languages except wwe seem to have 1 issue with the dialer. once its ironed out i'll have to go through the roms once more to see if i didnt overlook anything and i can release.
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yo,
how about to release the wwe version now and release the languages when you fixed the ONE issue.
it could be we find more issues in the wwe edition. u can automatically update them in the other languages before u go again through 40 versions uploading.
regards

I'm still excited by the Polaris project - the variety in the next version sounds fantastic. I am incredibly grateful for everything the xda-dev community puts into making the ROM what it is.
In saying that, I can understand why people are frustrated. The Polaris project was kicked off close to 7 months ago and so far there have been 3 beta releases. If there is anything at all we can do to help progress, I'm sure myself and many other people would be willing to do whatever we could to assist. Just name it.
At the end of the day, I'm sure everyone wants to see the best project ROM possible

tenticle56 said:
I'm still excited by the Polaris project - the variety in the next version sounds fantastic. I am incredibly grateful for everything the xda-dev community puts into making the ROM what it is.
In saying that, I can understand why people are frustrated. The Polaris project was kicked off close to 7 months ago and so far there have been 3 beta releases. If there is anything at all we can do to help progress, I'm sure myself and many other people would be willing to do whatever we could to assist. Just name it.
At the end of the day, I'm sure everyone wants to see the best project ROM possible
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you must also remember how long i had to wait for my polaris. it took a long time as donations were very slow. then you must also remember i was helping bepe with his roms at the time since we are a team. also i did have to play with the device for a bit and get used to cooking on it etc..
about the beta part. 0.3 i call a beta but as u can see in that thread its actually more like RC1 material. ill probably call 0.4.. RC1 and get bugs from that and then i also am waiting for the clearance on a new build then will make a 0.5 as non beta with all bugs fixed and the new build.
about releasing just a wwe... i though about it put i would have people nagging and asking for release dates etc... on the other ones. that would clutter the thread for others so i think its better to release them all at once. though since i listen to you all... if you want ill release the 8 wwe versions tommorow...
edit: though remember that uploading the 8 roms would take a good chunk of time away from fixing the 4 other languages

Pawel062 said:
you must also remember how long i had to wait for my polaris. it took a long time as donations were very slow. then you must also remember i was helping bepe with his roms at the time since we are a team. also i did have to play with the device for a bit and get used to cooking on it etc..
about the beta part. 0.3 i call a beta but as u can see in that thread its actually more like RC1 material. ill probably call 0.4.. RC1 and get bugs from that and then i also am waiting for the clearance on a new build then will make a 0.5 as non beta with all bugs fixed and the new build.
about releasing just a wwe... i though about it put i would have people nagging and asking for release dates etc... on the other ones. that would clutter the thread for others so i think its better to release them all at once. though since i listen to you all... if you want ill release the 8 wwe versions tommorow...
edit: though remember that uploading the 8 roms would take a good chunk of time away from fixing the 4 other languages
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PDaviet, Aserg, UDK, Bepe, Swatos and Panosha released their ROM's without too much BLa Bla while you bombarded us with too much promises and alibis. Have'nt you learned your lesson when and why the original Polaris thread was closed?

elohssanarerauoy said:
PDaviet, Aserg, UDK, Bepe, Swatos and Panosha released their ROM's without too much BLa Bla while you bombarded us with too much promises and alibis. Have'nt you learned your lesson when and why the original Polaris thread was closed?
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sorry everyone but i been busy trying to find a job. also some friends have come for the summer and are taking up my time too. add to that the july 4th weekend and you have a reciepe for a delay. though i have a good idea of the issues in non wwe roms.
now heres the issue:
the dial pad will not come up. i have narrowed it down to the sys and most likely a impcompatibility in the 19209 phone language files with the new diamond builds. ill have to ask bepe for some files from his german diamond rom or other non wwe diamond rom and see what helps fix the issue. wwe is not a issue since i updated the language files with the new diamond ones.
also btw i closed the polaris project thread since all the goals were reached. not bc of people b*******.
also i released previous roms with not too much fuss. now that im going mulitlingual and multiversion we have some fuss.
as i said before try making on your own the amount of versions im making and lets see if you dont also hit delays.

elohssanarerauoy said:
PDaviet, Aserg, UDK, Bepe, Swatos and Panosha released their ROM's without too much BLa Bla while you bombarded us with too much promises and alibis. Have'nt you learned your lesson when and why the original Polaris thread was closed?
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elohssanererauoy,
Give pawel064 a break,
I have enjoyed his roms so far and am happy to wait.
What he has produced so far works, so why the hastle.
There are plenty of other things in life to do so like pawel064 and me go out and do them.

A faster way to flash your Topaz via USB ...

Hi everybody
Here am I again with a new advice for all of you how are addicted to flashing their phones with latest roms, I discovered a way to flash the phone a little bit faster :
instead of going to bootloader by pressing downvolume and power while the phone is off, you have to use the utility enterbootloader.exe (which you must copy to your SD and then run) => the phone will restart all alone in bootloader mode BUT will flash faster than the other way !!!!!!!!
DON'T ASK ME WHY !!!! I've tested it several times and I don't have any explanation. maybe the cookers may help us understand ?
Bye

Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.

Overloaded said:
Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.
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I dindn't expect better than this answer. No problem my friend. I didn't ask for any donation or charity. Just wanted to share what I discovered (I didn't invent it).
Anyway, try the two methods (as you have plenty of time) and see by yourself.
PS : The file attached can also be found along with 99% of available cooked roms ...
Bye
PS n°2 : Is there a way to judge people by the number of posts they read instead of the number of posts they wrote ?

googy_anas said:
I dindn't expect better than this answer. No problem my friend. I didn't ask for any donation or charity. Just wanted to share what I discovered (I didn't invent it).
Anyway, try the two methods (as you have plenty of time) and see by yourself.
PS : The file attached can also be found along with 99% of available cooked roms ...
Bye
PS n°2 : Is there a way to judge people by the number of posts they read instead of the number of posts they wrote ?
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It is always better to read than to post.
Thanks for sharing

Why do you have to be so stubborn?
Overloaded said:
Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.
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I waited so long to have something interesting and valuable to post and share with the community. If it turns to this, it's better to shut up and continue reading ... (how sad, I was even thinking about going into the cooking adventure ... )

googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
Edit: And Cooking!

ramcid said:
googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
Edit: And Cooking!
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thanks for your kind words
anyway my first step in cooking is about to be done : I've downloaded WM6.5.3 23541 for osKitchen and will begin with simple and clean builds. My only problem is I don't know where to find the complementary packages manila, htc, tools .... (or may be I have to extract them from another rom) ?

ramcid said:
googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
Edit: And Cooking!
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Yes, perhaps I should have clarified my statement.
@Googy,
MOST here would not judge you on your post count and you should not be afraid to share anything that helps the community.
There are many senior members here only because they post crap like "flashing now", "thanks for the ROM" , "blah, blah, blah" that doesn't offer anything.
Do not be offended and do not be discouraged.

googy_anas said:
thanks for your kind words
anyway my first step in cooking is about to be done : I've downloaded WM6.5.3 23541 for osKitchen and will begin with simple and clean builds. My only problem is I don't know where to find the complementary packages manila, htc, tools .... (or may be I have to extract them from another rom) ?
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BeeGee Tokyo hosts many packages on his server.

Here I am again, I've managed to build my first clean rom based on 23541 by using osKitchen and successfully flashed the two versions I built (French and WWE). It's soooooooooo smooth and faaaaaast !!!! wow I'm impressed !
I also extracted the packages of the official 2.53 rom but when I include them in my build, the phone is blocked after the first initialization (after the htc logo animation). can't understand why .... can anyone help ?

googy_anas said:
Here I am again, I've managed to build my first clean rom based on 23541 by using osKitchen and successfully flashed the two versions I built (French and WWE). It's soooooooooo smooth and faaaaaast !!!! wow I'm impressed !
I also extracted the packages of the official 2.53 rom but when I include them in my build, the phone is blocked after the first initialization (after the htc logo animation). can't understand why .... can anyone help ?
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You should post your build log in the forum where you downloaded your kitchen from. Whoever supports that kitchen would be able to view it for any conflicting packages.
Otherwise it is best to load one package at a time until you find the culprit.
That is why cooking a good ROM is hard, because of the trial and error and repeated flashes and testing, very time consuming.
Some things to consider;
Page Pool settings (20mb seems to work well)
Mort Script (for AutoInstall functionality)
Themes (Max Manila is the best)
Other general tweaks to optimize the performance.

Bruce Inman said:
You should post your build log in the forum where you downloaded your kitchen from. Whoever supports that kitchen would be able to view it for any conflicting packages.
Otherwise it is best to load one package at a time until you find the culprit.
That is why cooking a good ROM is hard, because of the trial and error and repeated flashes and testing, very time consuming.
Some things to consider;
Page Pool settings (20mb seems to work well)
Mort Script (for AutoInstall functionality)
Themes (Max Manila is the best)
Other general tweaks to optimize the performance.
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thank you for your support
actually, i'm rebuilding the rom without manila but keeping all the standard htc apps. i'll give some feedback in a few minutes ....

So actually, my test rom starts with manila enabled but it's full of bugs
the os itself is running as it should .... i think there's something with the packages i extracted from the stock rom !

I give up !!!!!!!!
cooking needs good skills and too much available time (I don't have one of the two )
next time i'll stop to say thanks to any cooker i use his rom, now that i know it's not as simple as it seems !!!!
bye

Thank you for sharing and good luck with the cooking.
I don't believe post counts have much to do with anything and it's always nice to learn something new. I tend to be skeptical of everything until i have researched it to death, but i'd rather be skeptical of something than not know about it in the first place