Sadly enough I have noticed that the xperia X1 does not like my premium volkswagen carkit. As used in passat or audi or skoda superb, bmw, Mercedes, etc.
I have an RNS-510, but have also tried it with a RNS-310. Both having the premium carkit in it. Also called carkit III.
It uses rSAP to enable transfer of contacts and phone settings control.
I have tested with a nokia N95 and it works perfectly fine with that after you enable the remote sim access profile. Also known as SAP.
Sadly enough, the X1 refuses to connect. The carkit just says the phone is not compatible.
Anybody have any clue what to do?
Maybe a custom ROM which does have this functionality? Or a tool that can be added?
u r talking about remote sim access right?
my rom (cmex absolute touch) got an option to enable it under bluetooth setting (connections)
Yes or You use this little cab! Works perfectly with VW Golf VI PRemium Handsfreekit. I used the smaller file, but if it dont works try the bigger one!
In the bluetoothsettings you should find the sap profile after the installation, and in the programs a small utility to activate it. the Xperia himself has no SAP Profile!
wow!
I definately came to the right place! I will try this out tommorow first thing and let you know if it works!
Thnx's again. Also considering your rom now achmed20, because I believe this is quite basic functionality which should have been there in the first place!
As I said, I'll let you know if this worked!
not working yet
Well, that helped, a bit.
I get to the connection screen, have to enter the 16 digit pincode and after that the car just says connecting, and stays doing this for a minute or two and then just says failed or not compatible.
So I'm a lot further, but it isn't working yet! I'm thinking because of all the things I have tried, I might have broken it somewhere, but unsure how or what.
Thinking of maybe flashing it with a different (custom) rom, to see if that might fix the problem.
Anyone have any other advice?
no experience with the kind of trouble your having but if you want to try off on a fresh start, i would do a hard reset, then install the cab fix that was recommended.
still not working
I just installed the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom and did a hard reset after that.
Enabled rsap on the last tab of bluetooth and the car says its connecting and just does that for a long time (after entering pin code). Sadly enough, it just times out.
Anybody have any clue what could be the problem? I have the feeling we are allmost there, but there is just a little thing causing it to time out.
rsap even says it's connected to my skoda and everything.
From what I can gather, the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom is based on a touch HD.
more testing!
Okay, from what I have been able to gather, the following is going on.
The carkit is trying to log on in a frequency that it cannot handle.
I have been able to connect the carkit, download the address book and make calls with my Xperia now. No problems what so ever....except one. I was using a SIM from a collega whom has a different network!
I use t-mobile and my collegea has kpn/telfort. Doing more research, I have learned that kpn/telfort and vodaphone use the 1800 band frequency. And that t-mobile uses the 900 frequency.
I am not entirely certain at this point that this truly is the real problem, but, my phone works, my carkit and car works, so all the software bits are in sync, but only using a different sim. Rebooting the phone, changing nothing but the sim, makes it completely broken again!!
I'm using a RNS-510 with the Skoda/VW premium carkit. If anyone is able to shed some light on this and what possible fixes could be, I'd really like to hear!
I have been looking (and mailed) if a fiscon unit could potentionaly fix this problem. They also have units which intergrate with the system.
But I'd rather find a software solution, obviously. Sadly enough, manny cases can be found where people have problems, often, with no solution. This problems is *NOT* specefic to the Xperia, I do realize that now, since the new ROM, rSAP is working just fine.
more complex then ever....
Okay, things just more complex then ever before.
My x1 using a HTC touch HD rom base and rSAP from HTC (default in rom).
KPN sim = works and can call
Vodaphone sim = logs in but carkit crashes on trying to connect to cell towers. But car connection functions.
T-mobile sim = connection to carkit never gets finished.
I'm totally lost. Using a friends N95, all the sims work flawlessly.... which makes me even more clueless, because the carkit reads the sim data and then connects using it's own radio to the cell network.
Please, advice? How can this be fixed? Is there a different version of the HTC rSAP software available maybe?
The plot thickens again.
Using my sim card in my X1, not working. Original ROM, Original ROM + rSAP extensions, cooked rom from touch HD with native rSAP. Just non-functional.
Using the exact same phone, without the t-mobile sim but with the KPN sim, works perfectly, no problems what so ever.
Using an older Nokia E50, both sims work flawlessly, also my t-mobile sim.
This leads me to one conclusion and that is that the HTC rSAP implementation is seriously bugged.
Anyone have any idea on how to proceed? Somewhere I have read that the HTC's wouldn't handle 3G or UMTS sims and only use older ones. But, using the KPN sim I connect to 3G and it works. Also the nokia E50 of N95 can use any network and it just plain works. There for that statement is wrong in my opinion and it is caused by buggy software of HTC.
Anyone have a good idea on how to proceed? Lots of people having this problem and buying nokia's, but for no real reason other then buggy software it seems.
I really like my X1, and payed a lot of money for it, so I really need this to start working.... Please assist and help, also people with a diamond or other HTC, using the same software.
sadly enough, no progress
Did some tests again today, but sadly enough, no progress yet.
I'm going to try and get a hold of a Touch Diamond and a Touch HD and see how those preform with my sim. If my suspiciouns are correct, they will also fail, making this a combination of bad software with bugs with certain sim's.
That is the conclusion I am faced with right now... sadly enough, no idea how this can be remedied.
Are there developers whom might be able to write a reliable rsap implementation or will HTC ever come with a working version?
What do you guys think?
Sonyericsson will not provide SAP for the Xperia. Thats the point....
Been in contact with support
I have been in contact with Sony-Ericsson support and they tell me they cannot make the X1 compatible, because it is not just software.
Off course, to me this sound like total bull****, seeying I have allready had an raap connection with the X1. But this was either using HTC software add-on's or using a rom that was based on the htc touch HD.
Sadly enough, I cannot work without this functionality... and thus will be forced to sell my phone and buy... a nokia.... not bad, since I have had nokia's all my life. But I really really do not eNjoy beying forced to do so.
But everybody has known that the xperia has no SAP Profile... in every test, in every Datasheet you can see it! Why you buyed an xperia?
Wrong order
I orderd the x1 around the same time I orderd my new car (Skoda Superb II 2.0 TDI Ambition Business line ).
The car came with a carkit that can only do rSAP, but it is very very nicely intergrated with a external antenna, full adress book acces, etc. etc.
To my amazement, there was no rSAP on the phone, while all current high end models do carry support for it. Thus thought that a simple program or rom fix would provide it.... sadly enough, while some stuff works, it is very very flaky.
So it's a combination issue, off course I realize that. But I'd rather replace my phone and sell the x1, then having to change the carkit piece in my car (it is far more expensive). And still, I just cannot believe that such a basic function, is not in there.
Especially because it is made by HTC, which do carry this functionality!
So the problem was created by having both products in the same time frame. And my reluctance to believe such a high end phone would not carry this protocol.
From closer reading though. It seems that the x1 (with a custom rom) is not at fault here. If my speculations are right, any htc device with rsap from factory even has a big change that it is not going to function. Also reflected by my tests.
Using a HTC touch HD based rom on the X1, rsap is added and functions brilliantly using a KPN sim. Vodaphone works sometimes and crashes the carkit now and then and using a t-mobile sim, it does not work, at all. Since I have a t-mobile business account... it doesn't work at all for me.
I have not been able to get a hold of a Touch HD or Touch Pro to test if these problems also form on that phone, but will do so when I get the change.
So for now, even the HTC software seems to be bugged and thus I have formed my conclusion that my best option is to go back to nokia (which I have used for about 10 years now). The x1 is great, but not beying able to call in the car.... that just isn't going to work for me.
The new N97 looks pretty decent....
I have a jetta 06 tdi with mfd2(dvd version rev c) and skoda (kufatec) bluetooth modul installed by myself. I can do a Synchronisation of the Phonebook with Names and Numbers , dialed and missed calls , incomming calls with Names and i have a option to accept or decline a Call from the fis display , using my Multifunction Steering Wheel. Everything working perfect with my Xperia x1i.
Hmm
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
Quindor said:
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
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Im not sure we can post a direct link here to another website , but there is what im using in my Jetta : http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_....html/XTCsid/9f268df051bdc7806c7825cc426d606c
Old Version
Ah, yes. That is an orginal skoda part, but it is the older version from the Superb I and not the Superb II. That uses the other profiles and not rSAP.
touch HD behaves just the same
Hi everybody.
I had the chance to test both X1 (rSAP from cabs in post #3, thanks by the way) and HD (native rSAP implementation) on a VW touareg premium car kit and I must say they suffer from the same problems: most of the time the connection is established, but immediately drops and enters an endless loop of connection/disconnection, where everything can happen: car kit crashes, phone crashes, vodafone goes bankrupt, etc.
What hurts the most, though, is that very rarely and randomly, the connection with X1 is firmly established and everything, for unknown reasons, starts to work fine. This drives me crazy, for it would be a lot easier to cope if the feature wasn't available full stop.
Nonetheless, this makes me think a solution must exist somewhere, but I'm too much of a noob to find it...
Hope this helps, byebye.
Hi, i recently got a HTC HD Touch on Orange which i bought on ebay. The phone already came loaded with WM 6.5 on and so far i love it except for one problem. I have a Datsun 350z with intergrated bluetooth. When i tried to search on my phone it couldnt see anything, so this morning i upgraded my phones ROM to the latest Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5. Since then i can search and find the bluetooth device of the car, input the pin code for it and it is added in my devices tab, however nothing appears in the "Select services to use from this device" section.
I am wondering if nyone had any idea if i am doing something wrong or whether its jsut that my car doesnt support the phone? I was also thinking about reverting back to WM6.1, would that work? Also, how do i go about getting a vanilla copy of WM 6.1?
Any help would be much appreciated,
Regards
jc0r
Just a quick update. I can get the phone to connect to the bluetooth module in the car but its not easy. Basically when i put the keys in ignition that bluetooth gets power, i then have to quickly search for bluetooth devices on my phone and then it will connect. Would be nice if the phone just connected everytime to the car like my Blackberry did. Is this hardware or software problem please?
Not that anyone actually cares about my problem but i thought i post the answer up for anyone that might be struggling in future.
What was stopping my Bluetooth working with my car was having WiFi on. When i disable WiFi the car + phone works perfectly together. In my particular situation i use my phone to connect to an ad-hoc network, and because the phone is not connected to the ad-hoc when in my car the searching constantly is causing the problem. Whether this would be the same with infrustucture mode im not sure.
Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.
yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.
Subscribing to this thread, too...
Very Unhappy
I could not wait for the HD2 to be released on Tmobile. I have been with them for almost 9 years. I thought finally I can use their 3G network with the HD2. The last thing I expected was for the basic functions of the phone to not work. The phone does so much and is very advanced yet the basic bluetooth functions have been left out. I have spoken with both Tmobile and higher level support at HTC and honestly neither is going to do anything about the bluetooth support on this phone.
Well, if this is true, then it's becoming more and more clear that this is not something they just forgot to integrate - they omitted it on purpose, like the second camera (the second big fauxpas for a "high end phone"!), in order to have something left they can put into HD3 which makes people buy a new device...
I'm still wondering about the roms though - on PC I used to fight with BT stacks years ago. But it as always possible to install a different one, no matter what BT dongle I was using. Is it definitely impossible to create a rom with another stack? Is the stack somehow hard coded into the hardware?
polera257 said:
Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.
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Great question...I'm hoping there is an answer.
This would be so great if anyone could make my bt mouse running again on HD2. May be there could be a sourgeforce app or a MS BT stack cracked HD2-Rom.
If I only could use my BT mouse on HD2, may be in 2012 on WM8? Would be so nice for RDP, Virtual Machines, Gaming...
Someone tried on HD2 android with blueinput? Cannot get my BT working Android Running since my new Radio semms not to fit, will test later... I changed the BT working Android to the Phone working Android that is running fine on new Radio...
holylove02 said:
yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.
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I was able to get a BT keyboard to work on my HD2 with stock rom. I never tried a mouse.
I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
stevem68 said:
I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
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Not sure if this will help you , but other BT keyboards do work on the HD2 so, do not think it is actually an HID driver issue, I use an apple BT keyboard, and a Logitech DiNovo, both work very well ... I had one issue with the keyboard that was very close to what you see with yours, I took the batteries out of the keyboard overnight, it paired the next morning without a problem ....
Might help, might not ....
thanks
Thanks for the input. Tell me why there is a great number of people wanting tekosoft to adapt to broadcomm for Hd2 . Loads of people waiting for someting that worked great on my topaz. I have tried the reset button on the keypad. The phone spits out a 5 digit code and the pairing lights on keypad go out. I have tried lots of options. The bluetooth manager looks very different on hd2 than it does on topaz. Since the hd2 sees the keypad it seems like it might be easy fix since I have both phones to tinker with. What rom are you using?
Has anyone made any progress on this i would love to get this working on my hd2
if it pairs the same as the ps3 controller, this might be a workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984
Dear friends,
I was so happy with my HTC HD Mini, running WinMo 6.5, with the HTC touchflo interface...
Capacitive touch screen, nice cpu, good memory, so sensitive, small and great...the most perfect cell phone i ever had...and i had all the windows mobile devices, since "cassiopeia", before the first Windows Mobile 2003 devices...yes, i had all microsoft mobile OS's...
I was so happy with everything that my small gadget gave to me...I used the GPS lots of times...it help on lots of travels...allways worked very well, sincronizing very quick with the satelites...
But few days ago, i tried to activate the GPS (i'm using iGo since i bought the phone) and....nothing happened...The GPS just don't work...don't find any satellite...
While the device is search available satellites, it show the busy satellites as red dots, and the available as yellow dots...as soon as it finds enough satellites, the gps trace the route and lead me through the way...
But few days ago i tried to use my GPS and nothing happened...the device just don't search anything...looks like the GPS receiver is broken...i don't know what happened...Maybe it felt down on the floor and break the GPS receiving antenna?
Does anyone here already had the same issue?
I'm desperate! It is my baby, my beloved phone, my third hand...
Does anyone can help me? Please? I'm almost begging!
I already tried the hard reset twice...nothing happened...i'm so sad............................
Thanks i advance,
Claudio Brito
(Rio de Janeiro - Brazil)
Hi!
Have you tried android in the meantime? If GPS is deactivated in android it will also not work in windows mobile. At least that was the case for older android releases.
My Dear,
My phone is originally windows mobile, and i luv it...I really don't like android...by the way, it drains battery and make the phone slow (my friend have an HTC Aria, the same HTC HD Mini but using Android, and it sucks...mine is much faster...mine never crashes, never get slow...everything is fast all the time...thats why i like it so much...the first problem was that, about the GPS).
But, seppe82, thanks anyway...
I think my problem is a physical problem...maybe when felt down on ground the gps receiver disconnected...i don't know...
Does anyone had that problem in the past?
Damn...my phone used to be so perfect, and now i'm completely desapointed...
Does anyone sugest anything?
thanks
If it is a physical problem and you didn't use android on your phone I don't know the solution unfortunately. I just remember that somebody reconnected his gps antenna but I can't remember how he did it and whether it was mentioned in this forum or not.
Now I've found that topic and I see you already posted there. I hope there you get help. By the way: I also prefer wm over android on hd mini, since I'm not so keen in games and other apps but on a fast reliable OS
Good luck!
seppe82 said:
If it is a physical problem and you didn't use android on your phone I don't know the solution unfortunately. I just remember that somebody reconnected his gps antenna but I can't remember how he did it and whether it was mentioned in this forum or not.
Now I've found that topic and I see you already posted there. I hope there you get help. By the way: I also prefer wm over android on hd mini, since I'm not so keen in games and other apps but on a fast reliable OS
Good luck!
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Thanks seppe82,
I really luv my WM6.5 HTC HD Mini...is the first problem i have, and the first bad thing i ever said about this phone...
It is still the best phone i ever saw and ever had.
There are faster WM6.5 and WP7 phones, but none is so fast AND SMALL...
I can use my Mini with only 1 hand...and can drive and navigate...the size is perfect...
My sister has an HTC Ultimate...is a beaultiful and top phone, but it's oversized...My hands looks small when i'm holding it...for her, as a women, she carries on her handbag, and it's no problem, but for me, that carries on the pants pocket , is too big.
I still believe that, someday, some company will launch a better phone with maximum 3.5" display (I heard about the Nokia Lumia 800 - first nokia Windows phone - but is too soon to talk about it) ...while it doesnt happens, Mini still the best!
Well...hope somebody can help me...hope somebody knows how to "reconect the gps antenna"...
The video that was posted on the other thread doesnt talk about the gps antenna...it worked for nothing...and the user that mentioned this doesnt answer me...hope he doesnt left the forum forever...
Pleaaaaaaaaaase, sombody help meeeeeeeee...Don't let my Mini die...Pleaaaaase!!!
u will better go to a HTC service or any other phone service instead of whinning here..
this forum is mostly about ROM's and software stuff,not hardware so if you have hardware issues go to the places i mentioned above