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SMS bug - WM6.5

FYI:
HTC have confirmed that there is a bug with WM6.5 that shows that you have an unread message, while you clearly don't.
A fix is being prepared by Microsoft.

Never knew about that...
But knew about alarm ringing alarm and notification sound mixed.... and alarm does not stop... in the morning.
Battery additional info reseted to "0" so no historical info there....
No option to light signal for more that 5 minutes (thank god there is a registry tweak for that).
Well. I'll keep waiting.
PMoto

I am having exactly the same issue and posted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579772
Thanks for the update loadstone007...hope both MS and HTC start rolling out fixes for the various bugs in 6.5!
Mo

What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.

toth42 said:
What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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No I dont have these issues, but then again I dont use HTC Sense. Are these Sense related or Windows 6.5 related?

toth42 said:
What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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Totally with ya on this one, toth42. I'm having exactly the same issues and think it's Sense rather than WinMo 6.5 itself...

toth42 said:
What about the other bugs? Or am I the only one having them:
-Extra blank line between input-box and suggested words-line. Meaning the suggested words-line cross the "send"-button, and when you're picking a word, you accidently push "send".
-TouchFlo/Sense now only shows 160(?) letters in SMS-dialogue. Almost all my sms, in and out, exceed 160, so to read sms now, I have to use the Windows-dialogue(inbox). This was not a problem on WM6.1
-The input box and keyboard overlay the sms-dialogue, so what you see when you write a new text, is NOT the last you recieved, but 2 or 3 messages back in history. The newest ones are hidden behind keyboard, instead of scrolled up.
The weird thing is that these don't seem like bugs, just.. bad construction.
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Yup - I've seen all of these. Does seem a little buggy...

-Sie- said:
No I dont have these issues, but then again I dont use HTC Sense. Are these Sense related or Windows 6.5 related?
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Yea, I'll say it's sense/manila/tf3d, but all the problems occured after the official 6.5 update.
BTW, the one bug, with last SMS's being hidden by keyboard and textbox, is the same in WinMo(inbox). Just check, go to a conversation in your inbox, and whip up the keyboard. The keyboard and text-box takes most of the screen, and what u see above it, is not the last message of the conversation.

They are not bugs, just bad ideas badly implemented i suppose. Yep, the one with send button is driving me crazy

zimmicz said:
They are not bugs, just bad ideas badly implemented i suppose. Yep, the one with send button is driving me crazy
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I seem to recall there was a hotfix for this for 6.1, called something like "hotfix for fixing the problem with the extra white line when writing sms"? And still they don't implement the fix in the next version?

Hey guys i got the issue fixed using a little tool to clear the message count. Check this post, and thanks to onthemail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1519862&postcount=3
Run the program and do a soft reset - wait a couple of seconds and the annoying green message count will disappear. If not, do it all again (run program and soft reset) and it should def work.
Good luck
Cheers
Mo

Although I'm not experiencing the exact same problem the topic starter posted, I'm also having a problem with the HTC SMS. When I go to contacts, choose one of my favorites, go to the sms tab and send an sms from there, sometimes the sms doesn't show up in the thread, it just totally disappears from the device. As far as I know the messages are sent to the person, but it's annoying to me to not be able to read back what I wrote.
Anyone familiar with this problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks in advance!

I get quite a few Joke texts sent, but the long ones allways get cut off near the end. Some of them must be 4 or more texts long. I didnt have this problem until i upgraded to win 6.5. I allways miss the punchline is this a known problem and is there a fix or is there i setting i have missed.

mrcol said:
I get quite a few Joke texts sent, but the long ones allways get cut off near the end. Some of them must be 4 or more texts long. I didnt have this problem until i upgraded to win 6.5. I allways miss the punchline is this a known problem and is there a fix or is there i setting i have missed.
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It's a bug in WM6.5 unfortunately. You have to go in to Windows messages to see the entire message (as opposed to HTC's sense UI)..it's annoying and i hope HTC come out with a rom update very soon as this is just one of many many bugs and annoying quirks in 6.5. Argh!

HTC Pure Hotfix
While this doesn't address the problems posted inthis thread, I thought that I would just use this existing thread for an FYI. HTC has released a couple of new hotfixes this morning for the Pure and Tilt 2
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/

denco7 said:
While this doesn't address the problems posted inthis thread, I thought that I would just use this existing thread for an FYI. HTC has released a couple of new hotfixes this morning for the Pure and Tilt 2
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
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Have you successfully installed these?
I received "Device not compatable" errors on both files.
Prolly because of LEO ported manila.
Oh well, thanks anyways Denco7.

I have the stock AT&T rom on my Pure and both updates worked fine.

I also have this problem, so annoying! Microsoft need to get a fix ASAP!

SMS Lag issue

Hello all, I am posting this because everyone here is complaning to each other that their SMS doesn't work and they are waiting for someone to do something about it. Well one problem, I just called HTC and they "had no clue that this was an issue with the phone". Well I know I cant be the only one to call but apparently they need more of us to contact them so every tech support person there knows exactly what is wrong with this phone.
Well thats where we all come in... CALL their Tech support at 866.449.8358 and let them know how bad the problem really is. There are enough of us here that we can get them off of their backsides and start figuring this problem out with a real fix.
Please take the 20 minuites it takes to let them know that we will not sit here and deal with our 500 dollar phone not working like it should.

i don't have that problem anymore, IF i use the normal keyboard, i DO HAVE it if i use swype. I have grown accustomed to it as swype is something that i installed thats not put in a stock UK ROM. Once i installed the stock WWE 1.66 rom the sms lag issue with the default keyboard was NO longer there.
I take it your not using swype?
Dan

No swype is even worse on mine. I know this isnt just mine and my girls phone. There are over three pages of seperate threds that state the same problem over and over and HTC acts like my call was the first time they heard about it!

nothing????? This is why it will never get fixed. Unless one of the people here decides to devote their whole week to writing a whole new program!

lag
I have european hd2, using on att edge . I had problems until i started deleting my messages regular. & also set to delete the deleted messages immediately, "recycle bin" I use swype, no problems. Might be just cause I'm not 3g? Don't know?

If they don't know it is because they don't talk within the company, cause I have contacted them several times. They just didn't want to admit the problem. So if not admitting to the problem = not knowing it exists - then yes, maybe they don't know...

HD2 works fine with small number of messages. you need to delete them from inbox and deleted items every few days.

HD2: Not for texting! D:

you'd think HTC would have thought these devices through a little more, yeah? NO.
seeing as how i can't send a text message without a five second delay. i can't receive a text message without my phone freezing for ten. and god forbid i try and view one message while receiving another one, right?
also consider: the 1ghz processor, 16gb harddrive, 1024mb rom (on some devices), and this thing can't go five minutes without a hiccup? what the hell? D:
maybe my phone is just a screwed copy, but **** n' seriously. i just want to be able to have eye candy that operates decently. i thought that's what the HD2 was for, but it was a huge let down for me.
now, until HTC gets their crap in order and creates a better text engine, or someone ports android over to the HD2, guess what guys? we're F&%KED.
so, enlighten me, xda friendlies. are there additional text engines for the HD2? different programs to use, for faster typing and flawless send/receive features? cause until then, i'm inserting my sim card into my iPhone, as much as i hate apple itself with a burning passion, at least it texts somewhat better.
cause seriously, if i can't even stand to use my own phone, what the hell is the point?
intelligent responses only, go take your immaturities somewhere else.

Have you tried a Custom ROM?

At least try the new upgrade
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.

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Have you tried a Custom ROM?
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i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
tcoots said:
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.
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great machine. too buggy of an OS. not saying others are flawless, but i'd rather not have the only flaws in it related to the major thing i do with the phone. and i have upgraded to the rom that t-moUS release just a week ago. it's still pretty slow for me, considering my fingers move too fast for the keyboard to pick up on. i've already registry edited the lengthymessage thread, making it so the cache is always enabled, and somewhat speeding the system up a little bit when viewing the message itself. but typing is still very slow, and it's driven me up three walls, and back again.
does the text system and keyboard operate faster when SenseUI is disabled, using only the homescreen? cause if so, maybe i can deal with that, too. sense is nice, but not everything.

Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!

Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.

i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.

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Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!
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okay, i will try it as soon as i can find it, how's that? i just downloaded what i thought was the newest ROM for the USHD2, and it's still as bad as wm6.1 on the Touch Pro 2.
jdwrrzmm said:
Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.
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once again, what ROM. show me a link and a ROM update version, and i'll let you kno if i haven't already downloaded that.
ericm115 said:
i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.
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i'm gonna check that ROM out tomorrow, and get back to you if it helps me. but tell me, do you kno the difference between the "htc messaging" and "non-htc messaging" versions? which one is gonna be faster whith sending and receiving, as well as typing? please, and thank you very much, you guys.

just saying..
THANK YOU, YOU GUYS!
i know i'm not the only poor guy out there suffering from bad HD2 messaging. so this is helping more than just me. =]
PLEASE! keep the answers coming.​

To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy

ijoshv2 said:
i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
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On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.

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To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy
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for future clarification..
MY ROM IS T-MOus 2.13.531.1. =]
ddgarcia05 said:
On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.
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alright, i will check the energyrom page again and investigate. but if i go with energyrom, i would choose the second version which has the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. hopefully this, as well, has the messenger that i need.

i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app

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i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app
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thank you for seeing this as well, my friend. but keep in mind. i'm a texter. i like keeping my messages. i have a 516 message chain with my girlfriend. and i eventually clear them out, but not willingly. i shouldn't have to clean out my text messages to make my phone operate smoothly. so a good suggestion, but not for me. thanks =]

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okay so, i tried out the energyrom with cookie's hometab, and the rom works quite well. ocassionally freezes and needs a reboot, and i wish they could fix that, but it's in progress, so i'm not gonna complain too much. i downloaded the ADDON text message program he included under the addons and fixes link, and the messaging is soo much more fluid. no delays, doesn't matter how many messages i have, and i like it. it's missing the spell check feature, which i liked alot, but i can just be more careful with my spelling, and it'll work for now.
but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!

Yup ROM upgrade 2.13 fixed my texting lag issues.

ijoshv2 said:
but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!
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Confirmed for "suuuper small" pic fix for Energy ROMS. Cab provided below.
Page 32, post 313. Link to page in Energy thread

I text using the phone key pad.. I know most of you think im nuts, but give me a phone with actuall keys and I will out type and spell all of you who use a query or full keboard, i cant stand those two types, anyway stock ROM the typing was awesome I could type almost as fast as on a button phone.
Did the rom update last night, now i have to go at half speed, its terrible.
Phone buttons cant keep up, or will lock up.

If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze

jdl1681 said:
If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze
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The Energy roms do not come with the HTC messenger, he added it because he wanted. I couldn't agree with you more about using the windows messenger. It works great when you get it threaded. (start>settings>systems>sms threading)

A few bugs ive noticed... Any fixes?

Hello, i am running 1.66 rom on a generic htc hd2 with a t-mobile contract.
I cant update to the very latest rom because theyve only released it for branded phones!
The first bug ive comes across is the Facebook profile pictures in my favourites list sometimes switch around betweeen different people, so say joe's profile picture appears on bills name! happens every so often, and its very irritating. the only solution is to delete both contacts and re enter them into the phone!
The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
Also, a new occurance, when i switch on my phone it says launching htc sence and stays there for ages, when i click the cross, i get onto my phone, its as if sence had already loaded and just not removing the message.
The next thing is the wifi, is it meant to switch off affter a while? my battery went from 100 percent to 0 in about 5 hours! (not even joking) i just leaave it off now..
OOh and whilst im at it, one more thing. Can you sync your emails over data conneection? It always displays 'synchronisation error' when ever i try to sync over data connection, but on wifi it connects and downloads perfectly!
Any ideas on any of these issues? has anyone else experienced them?
thanks in advance

stevemilw said:
I cant update to the very latest rom because theyve only released it for branded phones!
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Flash a custom ROM, they are far superior.
stevemilw said:
The first bug ive comes across is the Facebook profile pictures in my favourites list sometimes switch around betweeen different people, so say joe's profile picture appears on bills name! happens every so often, and its very irritating. the only solution is to delete both contacts and re enter them into the phone!
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I don't use the Facebook app as it is absolutely usless, but after a search I found this -'Go into all people then select your contact. Then select Edit Contact. Then press where the profile picture should be. A 'Set Contact Photo' option should pop up. Next to the Facebook profile it should have a downloading icon. Once that was done i selected Facebook Profile and all was working.'
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The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
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There is an SMS update from the HTC website, but I believe this just addresses SMS failure to deliver issues. However, flashing a custom ROM with 235xx (WM 6.5.x) will definately eliminate this problem, as it uses a different SMS application. I'd assume flashing a custom 21907 (WM 6.5) would fix it too.
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Also, a new occurance, when i switch on my phone it says launching htc sence and stays there for ages, when i click the cross, i get onto my phone, its as if sence had already loaded and just not removing the message.
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I get this from time to time on my Energy ROM, I don't know what causes it, it doesn't really bother me.
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The next thing is the wifi, is it meant to switch off affter a while? my battery went from 100 percent to 0 in about 5 hours! (not even joking) i just leaave it off now..
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I am assuming you have BSB Tweaks installed? If so you have the 'Wifi Standby' option in Connections selected on. If you don't have it, download it and make sure it's disabled.
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OOh and whilst im at it, one more thing. Can you sync your emails over data conneection? It always displays 'synchronisation error' when ever i try to sync over data connection, but on wifi it connects and downloads perfectly!
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I've done a search using the forums search function, (hint hint) and found this it seems to have helped someone with this same problem with their HD2.

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The second is when im texting, at the start of the text, after i have done a few characters, sometimes it scrolls up to the last text and selects it, meaning i can still type, but i cant see what im typing, the keyboard covers everything im typing.
Incredibly irritating, i then have to minimize the keyboard, then maximize it aagain.
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I get this regularly (and also having the keyboard go mental sometimes, switching character sets, entering characters when I'm trying to backspace etc). Seems worse when the phone's hot or when I'm outside and it's windy! But that might just be a coincidence.
I actually sent the phone back to HTC a month or two ago (their customer service was fantastic btw - picked up the phone on a Monday, I had it back by Friday all by courier).
There was a note in there saying they'd reconnected the touchscreen. Everything seemed okay for a while but it's doing it again (I've never dropped the phone or anything). Wonder if it's a loose connector or something.
Mine's unbranded, so I'm waiting for the next ROM update (currently 1.66). If that doesn't fix it I'll ask for a replacement phone (not a fixed one).

There is an SMS update from the HTC website, but I believe this just addresses SMS failure to deliver issues. However, flashing a custom ROM with 235xx (WM 6.5.x) will definately eliminate this problem, as it uses a different SMS application. I'd assume flashing a custom 21907 (WM 6.5) would fix it too.
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thanks for the help! You say i would benefit from flashing a custom rom 235xx, what type of rom is that? for instance you have energy rom etc. Sorry if im sounding like a noob, but i like the original layout of my hd2, and dont want too change it too much if possible, but i would like the performance increases that come with it. thanks

stevemilw said:
thanks for the help! You say i would benefit from flashing a custom rom 235xx, what type of rom is that? for instance you have energy rom etc. Sorry if im sounding like a noob, but i like the original layout of my hd2, and dont want too change it too much if possible, but i would like the performance increases that come with it. thanks
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253xx puts the Start button at the bottom of the screen and makes menus and scroll bars bigger, it's called WM 6.5.x.
219xx is the stock look with the Start button at the top and no so finger friendly menu systems.
That's the basics of the differences between them both.

ok thanks i think ill installl standard reference energy rom 235xx one.
Do i need to change my radio before i flash? i have hspl installed.
The reason being is that i have changed the radio rom before and the signal was no where near as good as the stock radio rom. So i flashed back.

stevemilw said:
ok thanks i think ill installl standard reference energy rom 235xx one.
Do i need to change my radio before i flash? i have hspl installed.
The reason being is that i have changed the radio rom before and the signal was no where near as good as the stock radio rom. So i flashed back.
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If you have an international HD2 you have to install a 2.xx.50.xx radio before you flash the Energy ROM. if you leave a 2.xx.51.xx radio on the device you'll brick it.

ok thanks, im gonna update the rom now. The rom i have currently is far superior, but i will flash anyway and make the compromise.
Thanks

flangepiece said:
There was a note in there saying they'd reconnected the touchscreen. Everything seemed okay for a while but it's doing it again (I've never dropped the phone or anything). Wonder if it's a loose connector or something.
Mine's unbranded, so I'm waiting for the next ROM update (currently 1.66). If that doesn't fix it I'll ask for a replacement phone (not a fixed one).
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Thank you for your feedback!
And also thank you the OP who posted about that SMS problem- which I kept reporting with no echoes.
1) Yeah "reconnected the touchscreen" my @ss. That problem was fixed as soon as I changed ROM.
2) "theres a patch for problem with SMS", my @ss, I installed it did not fix anything- Also, if you read the rom's releases notes everything is "fixing the sms". They forget to mention that they moved the "task manager" in rom 1.66 and changed a few other things-
3) i still had lot of bugs with that rom and device. Now some of them are removed and I'm using Artemis 22A- A few bugs but all minor so far- so I finally start to "enjo..."erm hard word to say after so many months of troubles.
4) also for the "quietly brilliant support" you mention, I would not be so happy if you really knows what happens there: it's likely they will swap your device with 2nd hand device as they discontinued the manufacture of new devices. Also they had shortage of 1 part and they took it from random devices...
My point is you also risk to get 2nd spares part or the whole 2nd hand part... not too nice as it does not means that the original fault/flaw is fixed, and its gambling until your warranty expires...

[Q] Sms sent lag, HELP

Hello all, I have a big issue with this tilt 2 and that is the sms sent and pressing "X" to go back in the inbox of sms messages, it lags for a good 10-20 and sometimes the whole screen would freeze up because of this.
So I recently bought a tilt 2 and the seller told me he flashed it to a new rom which whenever I turn the phone on, it says Energy Rom so does anyone have a solution to this sms sent lag other than deleting all text messages daily, please help!
Thank you all in advance for your time and suggestions!

Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.

Teej53214 said:
Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.

Lennyz1988 said:
And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
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I'd have to agree. A SMS is about 1/7th of a kilobyte and a kilobyte is practically nothing. Sending a SMS doesn't cause a lag. I've been sending SMS since 1998 and WM wasn't even an option back then. It's all Microsoft and their crap OS.

I have to agree, it is the crappy htc sms client to blame, so I'm guessing noone have found a solution to this yet? Have you guys tried to hotfix from htc site?
I owned the tilt 1 and there was no lag at all in sms.

Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?

Girli3e said:
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
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I can help you picking a rom and flashing, just pm me

Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..

Outlaw78a said:
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
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And what version of sense do you use? 2.1?

@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please

Girli3e said:
@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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What Exactly Do You Need Help With?
Maybe I Could Try To Help You.

I am attempting to change the interface on my tilt 2 to android or something else so the sms in threaded mode won't lag and plus im tired of the WinMo appearance. =)
Thank you for your time!

Hi I have the same problem as you and it drives me crazy. tell me if im correct: You are complaining about the fact that after you press x to close a threaded text conversation it lags getting back to the inbox. On mine everything changes back to the inbox except for the top of the screen and then it just sits there till it eventually goes bqck. Your not reffering to how long it takes for you friend to receive the text, correct? Ive tired installing the most current sms program from htc that was taking from another phone and although it looked much niicer and had some cool features it didnt work right and i had to switch back. Maybe somone reading this can suggest something. It sdriving me crazy. as far as changing from the windows look which either you mean what they call titanium which is that homescreen where you have everything in alist and you can scroll up and own through it or do you you mean what they call touch flo or sense where you move along the bottom of the screen through tabs? either way i would highly recomend spb mobile shell which will make your phone similar to android layout. It works great and is reqally easy to customize everything. or at least touch flo/sense with what they call cookies home tab which helps you customize your home screen. Let me know whcih one you have and which one you want and ill help you. I dont know how to program but i do know how to use the phone well, and customize it thanks to all the developers here who provide us with so much to do it with.

@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.

Do you hava a lot of sms or e-mail saved on the phone? That can cause it to bog down.

Yeah, but I originally owned the tilt 1 and had over 4,000 text message and encounter no problem sending out text messages.

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@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
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i wish someone could help us with the lag, lately ive just learnt to be patient, though that is a little ridiculous. There is a sms program from htc (thecompany that makes the phone) that is much nicer and did not have the lag. I did have some other issues but maybe it will work for you. Search in xda for updated htc sms app and see if you can find it. as far as anroid goes I am trying to get mine to work properly and have still not got it to connect to sprint. Its a work in progress and not everything works so i dont think you would want to switch to it permanently. Give it a shot though its very cool and gets better every few days. As of know I think the camera is still not working but most everything else is. I would recomend spb mobile shell. watch some videos on youtube although you will be able to customize it yourself completely. Youll need to play with it to figure out how to customize it but its pretty easy just drag and drop type of stuff with anything on the phone. It looks and works like android but youll still be suing windows mobile. Its works great for me and i wouldnt be able to keep this phone if not for it. I hope that helps.