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How does the battery behaves when compared with HTC HD and the original Diamond?
I found a good review article of the diamond2
"In terms of battery life the Diamond2 promises nearly double the amount of standby time over its predecessor. From my time using the Diamond2, starting with a full charge and with frequent use (web browsing/ music/ camera/ the excellent bubble burst game!), the next time the phone needed charging was five days later and even then this was more of a top up rather than the battery running on empty."
(http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-diamond2-review.html)
i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
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i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
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I would expect it to perform like your current phone (the HD, right?). smaller battery but smaller screen, so it should be about the same, and the htc provided data seems to be in line with that (about the same stand by, talk time and video talk time...)
So I think u are right to be pessimistic, but I also think that a higher capacity battery is possible with the same size as the 1100 mAh one: This TD2 battery is large, compared to the TD1 one: about 2 times as large, and TD1 was 900 mAh. Except if they are not of the same thickness, TD2 battery should have a higher capacity than just 1100 mAh...
I found nice shots comparing internals of TD1 and TD2, where we can see the 2 batteries
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=7317
I do not know how TD2 battery compare size-wise to the HD, maybe you could post some pics of your battery? side by side shots of TD2, TD1 and HD batteries would be very nice, especial it we also have thickness shots anyone having acces to the 3 care to post those?
gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
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hum, then it is possible: faster processor does not mean that it will drain battery faster: new generation are etched finer and use less power for same or more processing power. Screen can be (slightly) more efficient, and power saving of the different radio can be better too. But I expect the phone to be good for 1.5/2.5 days of typical usage, no more, given the current behavior of the HD, touch pro and touch diamond (which have almost exactly the same internal components)
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
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The second is more likely, I doubt htc has changed the battery for the review (although it is possible). Good cell coverage is also good for battery life, if u have a cell tower nearby your phone will get better standby and communication time, same for wifi. I guess they both were in ideal condition and used the phone lightly...
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
Bettery Life!
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
how to say i think that htc have finally sorted out battery problems and have made a phone with a good battery life. Seems like ive been told!
Juggles said:
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
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My standby time always more or less equals the device usage time, so 50/50. I keep playing with it all day At the end of the day it's at app. 50% charge.
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MartyH32 said:
Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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O have 3g on all day, as well as Exchange push mail, however i only get about 15 mails a day.
Screen is set to auto brightness. I have to admit i hate this rom, so am using it as a secondary device at the mo..
had it's first charge last night. Unplugged it at 7:30....now almost 11am.
it says
standby
2 hours 38 mins
talk time
0
Usage
1hour 28 minutes.
3 bars from the main power meter have already gone.
Brightness is set to auto and only recieve gprs from where i am at the moment.
I new it was too good to be true, look like there'll be a full charge tonight again.
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
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I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
trinode said:
I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
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yes, my mistake However, my point stand: battery capacity should be directly linked to its physical size and weight, given that the technology and materials used are the same (especially if you compare the batteries of a single manufacturer, like HTC). If not, it mean that the battery is not optimal and that a higher capacity battery battery of the same size is likely to come afterwards (from htc or other suppliers). That's why I was interested in the physical size of the TD2 battery compared to other devices...Well, with some luck I will know today, maybe a batch will arrive this afternoon in my favorite mobile shop and I will pick one ;-)
After the first full charge and unplugging in the morning, mine lasted until the evening.
about the same as my D1.
I don't have bluetooth or wifi on ever.
So to be honest, with average use....it's still ****
Good job i bought myself a AA battery emergency charger for it as well
Extend batterylife
Maybe not what we're looking for , but it's a way to extend batterylife:
Just underclock your TD2 or other HTC-device:
Look here and here...
FYI: Overclocking is not possible (yet )!
@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
Hey dude
CWKJ said:
@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
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I love it to bits! You can check out my review on Tracy & Matts Blog, http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2009/04/24/htc-touch-diamond2-review
as for wmgurus.. it sort of died a death i think! LOL
Juggles said:
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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How you've managed to achieve this I'd like to know. As currently I have 2 bars remaining and I have the following listed:
19 hours 1 minute standby
Talk time 0 hours 2 minutes
Device Usage: 3 hours 25 minutes
since my last charge at 23:25pm Yesterday. It's now 21:53. I have had WiFi and 3G on most of the day mind you!
7 DAYS on Standby within 1 full charge! (however without Sim Card in)
I'm going to be a useful XDA Member!
I bought a genuine Galaxy S 4G battery which is rated at 1650mAh. It's Samsung Branded, says 1650mAh and everything!
So I decided to see how much, if any, improvement there actually is. I was doing this for my own purposes, but I decided I'll share results with you guys too! I'm going to drain both the batteries doing the exact same test, and time them! Simple enough, right?
Configuration of the test:
-SRF Frozen 1.1.1 ROM with included Twlight Kernel. Undervolted (Forgot settings, will post when change batteries)
-Display at 100% Brightness
-Bluetooth on
-Wi-Fi Off
-Background Data off
-Auto-sync off
-GPS On
-Streaming THIS youtube video on the desktop site using Dolphin HD with Flash 10.3 plug-in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsA9PhnYASQ&feature=player_detailpage
I'll update when the battery dies. =D
Update:
So I got my results ready... Took a while but BAM:
1500mAh battery lasted 1 hour and 58 minutes.
1650 mAh battery lasted 2 hours and 16 minutes.
I will have to see how real world use is, but this is pretty encouraging considering I was just trying to kill this battery as fast as possible. I was pretty skeptical about this battery ACTUALLY being 1650mAh, even though it is genuine Samsung, but it is!
So if you guys want better battery life, and no extended back, I'd say spring for a Galaxy S 4G battery.
Yippeeee, I cant wait to see the results, im sooooo exited. I bet the 1650mah lasts just a little bit longer but thats just my wild guess.
Are you calibrating the batteries beforehand? Well running them out calibrate them and make better results in a second round of tests?
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Hypnotic2010 said:
Yippeeee, I cant wait to see the results, im sooooo exited. I bet the 1650mah lasts just a little bit longer but thats just my wild guess.
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Pretty ignorant and condescending. =)
The Root said:
Are you calibrating the batteries beforehand? Well running them out calibrate them and make better results in a second round of tests?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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The 1500 mAh one was calibrated, but the 1650 one was not. If it's really important to you, I can do this tomorrow or another day I have time, I just don't have the patience to stare at my phone anymore, I want to use it. xP
Sprintguy1376 said:
The 1500 mAh one was calibrated, but the 1650 one was not. If it's really important to you, I can do this tomorrow or another day I have time, I just don't have the patience to stare at my phone anymore, I want to use it. xP
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I hear you, but if you want this to be a helpful thread this test needs to be done in a scientific manner. Successful science and patience rarely combine well. Please calibrate both or else it's more apples to oranges than it already will be. Technically, I wish this was a brand new phone with a stock battery being first calibrated and the replacement battery being put through the same circumstances at the same time.
Edit: specifying what the heck i'd want
Seems about right.
118 minutes for the 1500mah
vs
136 minutes for the 1650mah
That is a 15% increase.
The 1650 is 10% bigger than the 1500mah battery at advertised mah ratings. I am guessing you have had your 1500mah battery in use for a few months at least. Lets assume that it has diminished to 90% capacity from the new state of around 97% rated capacity which would be ~4-6 months of use. That means your 1500mah would be 1350mah.
Your 1650 is really 1600mah new most likely (97% rated).
That would make your 1650mah battery's real capacity around 18.5% larger than the 1500mah battery's real capacity, which is right in line with your test of around a 15% improvement.
Not pulling these numbers totally out of my ass BTW. www.batteryboss.org
muyoso said:
Seems about right.
118 minutes for the 1500mah
vs
136 minutes for the 1650mah
That is a 15% increase.
The 1650 is 10% bigger than the 1500mah battery at advertised mah ratings. I am guessing you have had your 1500mah battery in use for a few months at least. Lets assume that it has diminished to 90% capacity from the new state of around 97% rated capacity. That means your 1500mah would be 1350mah.
Your 1650 is really 1600mah new most likely (97% rated).
That would make your 1650mah battery's real capacity around 18.5% larger than the 1500mah battery's real capacity, which is right in line with your test of around a 15% improvement.
Not pulling these numbers totally out of my ass BTW. www.batteryboss.org
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Yay! Science worked! Now to test 1000 more times to avoid the small sample size argument. No, but really this thread just turned the helpful corner and I'm considering.
Edit: spelling (tori)
Hey all,
2 days ago, I got my Op5. Very happy with the phone, except for one thing : accubattery says that the capacity is just beneath 3100mah, instead of the 3300mah it should have. I let it run down and charged it to 100% and kept it on the charger for about one hour after that, still around 3100mah, according to accubattery.
How are your batteries? I'd like to know if this is a widespread issue.
How do you know that accubattery is correct?
Alan
Same here, but even lower. After 42 cycles is around 3000 mAh.
alan sh said:
How do you know that accubattery is correct?
Alan
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Well, since it is measuring the amount of current going in the actual battery, after some cycles you can assume with quite confidence the actual battery capacity. Besides, it will actually plot the measurement, so you can actually see if the data makes sense.
I'm curios also about the actual capacity, because this would be an indicator of why I have seen so much variation about the battery life on different handsets.
Man, I really don't care. Best battery life ever! (I came from OP3 and OP2 before that)
Rodomar705 said:
Same here, but even lower. After 42 cycles is around 3000 mAh.
Well, since it is measuring the amount of current going in the actual battery, after some cycles you can assume with quite confidence the actual battery capacity. Besides, it will actually plot the measurement, so you can actually see if the data makes sense.
I'm curios also about the actual capacity, because this would be an indicator of why I have seen so much variation about the battery life on different handsets.
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This app shows significantly lower capacity in almost all phones. To determine capacity you have to discharge battery completely (which is not 0% reported by system) and charge it with precise measurements (5 seconds sampling rate like Accubattery isn't enough). This app is like cancer. This is fourth thread in last two weeks about this **** app. Only things it does well is reporting false data gathered by pseudoscience method and drain battery by wakelocks. Do you need to mess up with battery stats? Get Google battery historian.
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This app shows significantly lower capacity in almost all phones. To determine capacity you have to discharge battery completely (which is not 0% reported by system) and charge it with precise measurements (5 seconds sampling rate like Accubattery isn't enough). This app is like cancer. This is fourth thread in last two weeks about this **** app. Only things it does well is reporting false data gathered by pseudoscience method and drain battery by wakelocks. Do you need to mess up with battery stats? Get Google battery historian.
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So, how some users like the one above achieve 8h SOT while others like myself neither 5. I'm even never play games almost, which is typical a drain source on phones.
Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk
Rodomar705 said:
So, how some users like the one above achieve 8h SOT while others like myself neither 5. I'm even never play games almost, which is typical a drain source on phones.
Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk
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There is no typical drain source. Everone has different apps installed, different usage, different settings... etc. I can achieve 8h SOT or 2h SOT too. Do you really think, that 10% of reported battery capacity loss would make 60% higher difference in SOT?
davfiala said:
This app shows significantly lower capacity in almost all phones. To determine capacity you have to discharge battery completely (which is not 0% reported by system) and charge it with precise measurements (5 seconds sampling rate like Accubattery isn't enough). This app is like cancer. This is fourth thread in last two weeks about this **** app. Only things it does well is reporting false data gathered by pseudoscience method and drain battery by wakelocks. Do you need to mess up with battery stats? Get Google battery historian.
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Thanks, I didn't know this app is that unreliable.
Like many others my 1 year-old A2017-U's battery life had deteriorated significantly. Until yesterday it was completely stock, unrooted. In an attempt to salvage what is a perfectly serviceable phone for me, I finally bit the bullet, unlocked, rooted and installed Lineage OS 14.1 and the Radioactive kernel.
What's a good way for me to objectively measure battery life. What I'd prefer to do, is to charge to full, and then understand under typical conditions how long it lasts, day by day.
Is there a good app for this?
kendoori said:
Like many others my 1 year-old A2017-U's battery life had deteriorated significantly. Until yesterday it was completely stock, unrooted. In an attempt to salvage what is a perfectly serviceable phone for me, I finally bit the bullet, unlocked, rooted and installed Lineage OS 14.1 and the Radioactive kernel.
What's a good way for me to objectively measure battery life. What I'd prefer to do, is to charge to full, and then understand under typical conditions how long it lasts, day by day.
Is there a good app for this?
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In my view, there is non. Everyone's phone is different, with different apps, etc. What I used is Antutu's stress test and see how many % drops after X number of tests. It can also show how quickly it drops, but only useful if you have previous tests to compare to.
kendoori said:
Like many others my 1 year-old A2017-U's battery life had deteriorated significantly. Until yesterday it was completely stock, unrooted. In an attempt to salvage what is a perfectly serviceable phone for me, I finally bit the bullet, unlocked, rooted and installed Lineage OS 14.1 and the Radioactive kernel.
What's a good way for me to objectively measure battery life. What I'd prefer to do, is to charge to full, and then understand under typical conditions how long it lasts, day by day.
Is there a good app for this?
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Accubattery. It measures the mA while charging and takes the estimate of mAh, coupled with the percentage thay you charged. After 2 charges with more than 20% (say, from 20 to 60) it will show you an estimate of the current battery capacity. after more charges it will get even more precise, bur in my case it's been showing 2400 mAh all the time
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Accubattery. It measures the mA while charging and takes the estimate of mAh, coupled with the percentage thay you charged. After 2 charges with more than 20% (say, from 20 to 60) it will show you an estimate of the current battery capacity. after more charges it will get even more precise, bur in my case it's been showing 2400 mAh all the time
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I agree with above, Accubattery. It will tell you your battery's capacity. I bought a year old Axon7 and the capacity was down to 58%, Bought a replacement and did a fairly simple install and now all is good.
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I agree with above, Accubattery. It will tell you your battery's capacity. I bought a year old Axon7 and the capacity was down to 58%, Bought a replacement and did a fairly simple install and now all is good.
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Where'd you get the battery? how much? and is there a video online showing how to do it?
kendoori said:
Where'd you get the battery? how much? and is there a video online showing how to do it?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/zte-axon-7-major-battery-issue-t3738542 It's all in here.
kendoori said:
Where'd you get the battery? how much? and is there a video online showing how to do it?
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use jerryrigeverything's video
patio54 said:
I agree with above, Accubattery. It will tell you your battery's capacity. I bought a year old Axon7 and the capacity was down to 58%, Bought a replacement and did a fairly simple install and now all is good.
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I don't trust Accubattery that much, I use a USB battery capacity tester (google for it). Plug it in between the charger and charge cable and it will show me the true capacity when full.
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I don't trust Accubattery that much, I use a USB battery capacity tester (google for it). Plug it in between the charger and charge cable and it will show me the true capacity when full.
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And how much difference does it report? I mean, why not trust Accubattery since we saw all of the results on the other thread? Before changing the battery it would report very low values like 58%, after changing it it reported about 96% which is really good
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And how much difference does it report? I mean, why not trust Accubattery since we saw all of the results on the other thread? Before changing the battery it would report very low values like 58%, after changing it it reported about 96% which is really good
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Bottom line is it is an app which will draw power when it is running, which may affect the result. I had not tested the app fully but on my old zf3, when screen is on, it reports as drawing at 500ma while the USB tester stay as the same before screen on, 1.8A. The USB tester measures the actual electricity that went down the cable while the app measures reading as reported by the phone, which could be wrong.
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use jerryrigeverything's video
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Lol, you mean the bin test? AKA destroying the phone?
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Lol, you mean the bin test? AKA destroying the phone?
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no, the video he does AFTER that one
Although you're free to do that one too, who the hell am I to tell you not to :laugh:
Hi guys, how do you find this phones battery life with cellular network on? Can't seem to find any info about it.
I am on Pixel 6 Pro and I am looking for replacement. As you can see on my screens P6P has some serious battery issues. While it's in my pocket or lying on the desk with screen off it sucks battery life like crazy. Up to 5% per hour sometimes. This is my fourth device(Google agreed to replace it 3 times) and all the previous ones had the same issues. I have tested it in safe mode too. It's that crappy modem in P6P. Btw I am unable to wirelessly charge it too. I noticed that when P6P will heat up to 39degC it will stop charging so in northern Spain I'm unable to charge my phone(unless I put it in the fridge for some time) without a cable lol.
Will NP1 have better results?
This is normal with the screen on and full screen brightness.
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This is normal with the screen on and full screen brightness.
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I am asking about NP1 and talking about battery standby with screen off performance(4,5%/h) for P6P.
2592000 pixels in NP1
4492800 pixels in the P6P
The battery in NP1 is Li-Po 4500 mAh
The battery in the P6P is Li-Ion 5003 mAh
If the Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon processor in the NP1 is more economical and online operation does not devour as much power as by Google Tensor in the P6P, you can minimally extend the all-time online usage time with the screen on.
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2592000 pixels in NP1
4492800 pixels in the P6P
The battery in NP1 is Li-Po 4500 mAh
The battery in the P6P is Li-Ion 5003 mAh
If the Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon processor in the NP1 is more economical and online operation does not devour as much power as by Google Tensor in the P6P, you can minimally extend the all-time online usage time with the screen on.
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Alright but have you got any data regarding standby screen off battery usage on NP1? This is what I am asking here about.
I do not deal with insignificant models in which components spontaneously fail after a few years.
This is my accubattery
Abhinav Tyagi said:
This is my accubattery
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this does not show anything really. Can you please go to history and open a log when you were like from 100% to 10%?
Never been from 100% to 10% since I got the phone as I use Android auto and it charges. Will try to do a 100 to 10 tomorrow and then post it here.
This is 83% to 59% if this helps
Is DeepSleep working for anyone?
Getting poor battery life on my NP1. Black 8/256 Indian variant. Any tips to improve
Looks like firmware is broken, not a hardware problem
Guys, can anyone confirm, how much SOT to expect from this phone?
Also, in accubattery and castor apps, my battery is showing 4350mah instead of 4500, is this an issue?
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Guys, can anyone confirm, how much SOT to expect from this phone?
Also, in accubattery and castor apps, my battery is showing 4350mah instead of 4500, is this an issue?
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SOT more like 7 hours plus (varies with usage I don't play games and got 7 hrs : 40 mins sot ) and inaccuracy of battery capacity is there with many tools reporting 4350 while others 4500 like CPUX reporting the later one. Accubattery has a feature of estimate battery capacity after few charge cycles that is showing 4495 on my unit so check that incase.
It need to be 7h+ but it is not, thats the problem.