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New roms vs original

Hello,
I've been looking around at all the roms etc and their change logs. They look like big improvements, so I updated to CM stable (worked fine, a little bit slow now and then) now I'm using the latest one which is meant to be the fastest but I find it hangs a lot, and is slow quite often.
Is anyone seeing this or is it just my phone.
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.

theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
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No it shouldn't do that, everything should be secure.

theoneonly said:
I also have a question, when I shake my phone I can hear this ratteling sound, is that normal? my phone isn't new
Thanks.
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what a ridiculous question.

Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.

theoneonly said:
Well I bought it used, and I only hear it sometimes like if i move it in a certain direction then it stops.
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yes that is weird

brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.

DMaverick50 said:
you strike me as the type of person who has a bunch of e-friends but few if any real ones.
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how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.

In his defense it's pretty much common sense that if something is rattling when it didn't used to rattle it's most like not a good thing.

brian_v3ntura said:
how? becuz i think its dumb if something is moving and rattling and ask if its bad. but anyways ur make a personal attack =)
and i do have lots of friends made over . esp from playing sports. and i just got back from ufc 103 party hosted by lacrosse team member. just saying. maybe u need to brush up on things...and look at ur thread post...u posted a lot of useless threads.
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And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.

ThrashWolf said:
And you make a lot of useless posts.
You're one of the most **** trolls I've ever seen.
Go crawl back into your hole and stop hi-jacking threads.
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actually my most recent post were influence from the "the wrecking crew" the other one are informative or opinion =)
and i only hijacked thread for about 2 or 3 days. 2 days sounds about right.
but okay thk u another personal attack. ur being watched by mods

brian_v3ntura said:
ur being watched by mods
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but isn't big brother always watching. because in the end, even he too, loved big brother...

To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.

I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back

crpercodani said:
To the OP: You might wanna try wiping your phone and maybe repartitioning your SD, see if any apk's your using have known conflicts with Cyan roms. Can you tell where the rattling is coming from? Also your phone is still under HTC warranty so you might be able to get them to fix it, just gotta pay shipping. Also if your on tmobile they might even do it for you for free.
Ok whatever homos are attacking brian quit your *****in. He has helped A LOT of people out here. Me and the other 2 are the ones who started the hijacking, not him. He is actually such a helpful member that he tried to help me when I was messing with him, he went as far as taking his phone apart to help me. So before you call him a troll or whatever else you should check yourself, the forum won't miss you or your retarded questions. Most of you herbs prolly drool over his girl.
One more person give brian **** and ANY THREAD OR POST you make with a stupid question or comment will get jacked, I will personally make you look like a fool, even if it gets me banned. Go back to howard forums you failures.
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gridlock32404 said:
I'd risk a ban for that one too, brian is a very helpfull guy are here. All he did was point out something that many of us would have also made fun off. Don't worry bri, we got your back
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thx thx =) but! i am good. i just LOVE arguing becuz more than likely i can comeback with a better rebuttal. hell i even argue a lot on youtube. i even argue with customers in the mall at work. lol. its just who i am.

brian_v3ntura said:
what a ridiculous question.
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There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.

Actually no, around here there are plenty of stupid questions.

I know an I agree,but this one wasn´t ridiculous.

dta1974 said:
There Are No Stupid Questions, Only Stupid Answers....and yours is one of those.
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actually like one person said. its common sense to think something is wrong if something didnt rattle before but rattles now. so therefore it was a stupid question.
saying its a ridiculous question implies common sense.
maybe u need to rethink things before u speak since u practically contradicted urself. first saying there are no stupid question, but then agreeing that there are stupid questions here on XDA.

I agree both ways. Yea it is pretty obvious it shouldn't rattle, but you could have said it to him in a more polite manner, but if it was me I would of prolly posted a really degrading image or something.

i, too, love the subtle art of arguing.

kkruse, I see in your sig you're running your own custom Kernel

What's it customized to do?

thread; the new pm
this ain't twitter

lock this please....

wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.

LOl Hilarious

akijikan said:
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel

johnsongrantr said:
not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
david279 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel
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Thanks, I already know how to do that though. This thread was started to ask if kkruse might share with us what he did since it might be useful to incorporate into our own kernels.

akijikan said:
facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
Thanks, I already know how to do that though.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard

johnsongrantr said:
You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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I'm not going to pay the time you wasted trying to bully me into doing things your way. Sorry you choose to see that as moronic.

johnsongrantr said:
You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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Wow... The pot calling the kettle black... You are just as retarded.. You're arguing like a little *****.. Shut your mouth... Leave the guy alone. If you don't like the thread, forget it exists..
It is not yours, nor anyone else's to say anything.. A forum is made to voice any concerns whatsoever that the users feel necessary... For you to reply as aggressively as you did, doesn't make your forum rep jump up, you actually just end up making yourself look like a bigger **** than we all already think you are...
Every time I see one of your posts, I wish you would just leave the community...
Maybe its below your asshole tolerance level, but he has every right to post whatever he wants. Go troll somewhere else.
Now, back to the original topic OP.....

^ heard that..what rom is this kat running with the kernal darch's 2.1?

johnsongrantr said:
not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
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It's 'ESPECIALLY'. There's no X in that word. Also 'relevance' not 'relevence'. I'm certain I'm missing one or two there, but this was just a quick glance. Since you seem to be all over propriety, I suggest learning to spell before criticizing others.
I like these forums, but GOD I'm getting sick of the self proclaimed topic police around here. The guy asked a legitimate question. There was no reason to jump all over him for it.

LUL
LUL
this is funny

I am not here to agree with johnson's approach to this thread but I have to agree that this thread should not have been created in such forum. PM's are exactly how you communicate with other members and if after PMing said Member, he received info that he felt relevant to the forum, then he should post it. Just starting a thread to ask someone something like that is just a little much.

Loud noises!!!!

I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t

Bielinsk said:
Loud noises!!!!
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I love lamp.

johnsongrantr said:
I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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How ironic that you tried to paint me as the 5 year old in the equation.
I'm here for the same thing, the sharing and development of knowledge surrounding this phone, and this thread as it was started (don't think the same could be said now) met that end in a direct manner.
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.

akijikan said:
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
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given... but at least I know my sh*t

2.1 leak OFFICIAL root status thread.

Since nobody else has created this thread, thought it might be a good idea to have this 1 around.
Lets get this thing rooted
Edit:: Devs working on the 2.1 Leak root, please contact me via PM. It would be great to know who all is working hard on this
BTW, JCASE is AMAZING.

I believe the individual responsible for rooting the Legend is coming back from vacation tomorrow (IF the big ass ash cloud permits flying again), and there might be a chance it can be replicated onto the ERIS. So yeah, it's a good idea to put it all in one area.

I hope it can but im not holding my breath.
Sent from my Eris using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Wonderful! Hopefully this will encourage more users to post progress of the rooting.

Perhaps a mod can sticky this thread?

Please sticky this thread

anom69 said:
Please sticky this thread
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And please, please, please can we keep it clean and on topic! Hope to see some stuff happening here. Go root!

Bump...waiting for the root of the 2.1 leak also...I will donate to the guy or team who does..

Well its good to know they overlooked us.

anom69 said:
Well its good to know they overlooked us.
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If they did its because of ungrateful people like you.
Most of the devs dont have Eris' anymore let alone an Eris with leaked 2.1 to test with. Te guy who rooted the desire/legend in one fell swoop was notified and has shown interest in helping. So keep your pants on, if you have 2.1 leak its your own fault for jumping the gun.
For the record I jumped the gun too, but acquired a new Eris which is now rooted.

Sometimes minor frustration sounds ungrateful. I'm pretty sure what was being commented on was the fact that no devs addressed the subject. And, I bet the OP'er was really just trying to get the subject back up in the first page.
My conscience won't let me turn in my Eris for a mistake I made. The rest of the folks who can't or won't turn their phones in for replacement are having to hope for the best, same as me and the OP'er.
Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..

Nothing personal, meant here (more like an implied question) but I find myself curious about why someone who's already rooted, and is not apparently a dev is even reading this thread..
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I try and stay current with all things eris. just tired of reading the same.old bump complaints
Sent from my Evil Eris v1.1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

*sigh* I hear ya. Your gripe is totally valid. Sorry if I sounded like a jerk.
As someone in the same position as anom69, I was glad to see this thread started.. if nothing else, then to toss out a line and see whether anybody was still plying at it.. I keep picturing the "real" hackers not bothering with the cheap/free/not-so-impressively-spec'd Eris and getting, instead, (what they might term) "real" phones.. basically echoing what you stated earlier..
The story of Legend-rooter dude sounds promising. It'd be awesome of it turns into something.

It's more like "geez i can't stand to hear these people whine, maybe I will get an iphone instead".
or a motodroid.

It was kinda annoying seeing a signature that says I have root, but I'm not going to share it too. Like, why be a d!ck if you figured it out? If you don't want to share it or be bugged, don't say anything.
I do tutorials and write-ups for a truck forum. If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.

If someone is running leak version one and doesnt mind taking a chance, come hit me up on irc.wastate.net #droideris

piercedtiger said:
If I didn't want people PM'ing me, emailing me, or asking questions in forums all the time I wouldn't have done them in the first place. Seems simple enough: don't want attention then keep your head down.
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Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.

jcase said:
Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Okay, so your going to let one dude ruin the work that would help loads of people like me???? Personally, I'm amazed at the work all the devs put into these forums and thankful.

since I have started coming here for all my information on rooting and whatnot I have noticed one major theme that pops up over and over, there are a few devs here with a holier than thou attitude, if you are doing this for fun and nonprofit as you claim to, then deal with us noobs who can't do this stuff on our own, you cry and whine when someone asks a question, like we are intruding on your personal space, we only ask because we don't know how to do this ourselves and are kinda stuck sitting watching and waiting, and when all we see are threads about new roms and such for rooted users, it kinda leaves us wondering, what about me, yes you are right we jumped the gun with installing the leak, but who told us it was ok, it was you guys, we aces our trust in you devs because we trust what you have to say, leaving is now high and dry because everyone jumped ship and got a replacement phone or a Droid or whatever, so doors that make us the bad guys because we want to know, what about us?
and a second thing, I've read a couple threads where devs are kinda claiming responsibility for obtaining root, but when in reality, while it was "obtained", it was not done so in a legal, nor reproducable manner, as I heard someone hacked HTC and found a prerooted file, so while we do hold the devs in high reguard for being able to do what we cannot, please do not be so full of yourselves and forget that you are human just like us
sorry for the rant, but getting tired of some things around here
and also, not everything here applies to all the devs, but I won't name names here

jcase said:
Good advice.
Scratch my last request, I will keep my head out of it. Let someone else figure it out.
Awaiting piercedtiger's how to on leak rooting.
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Honestly, after the way you acted last time someone "bothered" you about this I never expected to hear from you again about this let alone a solution.
So forgive me if I don't get upset about you bowing out again when someone speaks up.

Downgrade 2.1 to 1.29 to Root???

Is it possible? Theunlockr gives a link to download 1.29 but since so many on here are trying to root 2.1 I'm guessing it's not possible.

No. Not possible. Done. Mods close thread.

chadt said:
Is it possible? Theunlockr gives a link to download 1.29 but since so many on here are trying to root 2.1 I'm guessing it's not possible.
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Not possible. You will get an error that says something to the tune of image is older and the RUU will abort.

Thanks guys

HeroMeng said:
No. Not possible. Done. Mods close thread.
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The OP wasn't asking anything out of the ordinary. Giving attitude, flaming, and trolling will take things nowhere, particularly not from our stand point. Please consider not posting like this anymore since you are breaking all three of the aforementioned rules. Consider this a friendly warning.

No it is not possible. You will have yo wait till someone roots the 2.1 release. Next time do a search before posting.
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You can not root 2.1 and the phone will not allow you to downgrade the hboot so you can not go back from 2.1
There is a thread in the dev forum. A couple people are trying to find a work around to either downgrade or just a plain old exploit to gain root. Keep a look out for it.
And another one gone...

egzthunder1 said:
The OP wasn't asking anything out of the ordinary. Giving attitude, flaming, and trolling will take things nowhere, particularly not from our stand point. Please consider not posting like this anymore since you are breaking all three of the aforementioned rules. Consider this a friendly warning.
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Dude man up. How did he flame? "No. Not possible " that's a pretty straight forward answer to the ops question. So one has to go on a rant now to answer a stupid question that has been asked 264510937381996 times before otherwise you hurt feelings?

Lesson #1 on forums.
Dont argue with mods or admins...you will lose...every time....always.
It took many years of getting banned to learn that.
have a nice day.

LOL arguing? OK I guess feelings run high here. And I sat here thinking I was asking a question haha

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LOL arguing? OK I guess feelings run high here. And I sat here thinking I was asking a question haha
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In my field thats a form of Subordination. I have modded for many years and ran my own forums, if i was a Mod/Admin here i would see it like that... But honestly, dude im not busting your chops regardless i was just pointing out a simple rule which wasnt directly or indirectly pointed at you. You talk about feelings running high here well everyone at one point or another was a newbie so since my feelings are now directly involved at this point i feel that yes... Some of the comments here that i have seen especially to newbies are complete irate, irrational and overall douche like.
And now you know... And knowing is half the battle!
-G.I Joe

98classic said:
Dude man up. How did he flame? "No. Not possible " that's a pretty straight forward answer to the ops question. So one has to go on a rant now to answer a stupid question that has been asked 264510937381996 times before otherwise you hurt feelings?
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I don't think it was the "No. Not possible." part that was the issue, it was the "Done. Mods close thread." part that was a bit rude. It came off that way to me anyways. A simple "Not possible" would have sufficed.

Powers16 said:
In my field thats a form of Subordination. I have modded for many years and ran my own forums, if i was a Mod/Admin here i would see it like that... But honestly, dude im not busting your chops regardless i was just pointing out a simple rule which wasnt directly or indirectly pointed at you. You talk about feelings running high here well everyone at one point or another was a newbie so since my feelings are now directly involved at this point i feel that yes... Some of the comments here that i have seen especially to newbies are complete irate, irrational and overall douche like.
And now you know... And knowing is half the battle!
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OK I agree because even I can be a fool to noobers. I was talking about this thread, not in general though.

My feelings were never hurt because I understand how some people do not have lives and just go from post to post being assholes to strangers on the internet to make up for their non-existent social life in the real world. As far as it being a stupid question, sorry that I did not perform a search. I looked at the posts from the first two pages in this forum and didn’t see anything. Either way, have a nice day. I will be sure to search before I ask a question that takes up so much space on this website. Get a life.

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My feelings were never hurt because I understand how some people do not have lives and just go from post to post being assholes to strangers on the internet to make up for their non-existent social life in the real world. As far as it being a stupid question, sorry that I did not perform a search. I looked at the posts from the first two pages in this forum and didn’t see anything. Either way, have a nice day. I will be sure to search before I ask a question that takes up so much space on this website. Get a life.
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LOL wahhh wahhh. Was I talking to you? I don't go from post to post, just stupid posts. I'm glad u also think u have a great life I bet it isn't that awesome. Later

98classic said:
LOL wahhh wahhh. Was I talking to you? I don't go from post to post, just stupid posts. I'm glad u also think u have a great life I bet it isn't that awesome. Later
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So u go from stupid post to stupid post? Lol sounds boring

wow this isnt a great way to get a mod/admins attention now is it?
/sarcasm

The key to the game is to not take anything the internet says personally,
Well unless they somehow have nudes of faithful girlfriend of 5 years in that case..
But honestly I believe most people on this forum are pretty good people despite being quick to action, but a good number are just playing don't mind them much.

So what's with all the crying on XDA's EVO threads lately?

I remember the good ol days when people just dropped by, downloaded some stuff, left nice comments and went about their day. Lately, bout the last month or so, the threads have been filled with "I donated a dollar, I want my ROM" or "can I get an ETA on this?" (which is the rudest question I've ever seen here) or just people arguing or one-upping each other. I fear we're losing the community-based friendliness of this site as the days go along.
As we can see, a few devs have had enough and already left. How much longer is everyone gonna keep this up? It's like I visited XDA one day and it turned into an AOL n00b forum. It sucks. I want the old XDA back where people didn't cry about CM missing deadlines (they just visited again later and if a new CM was up they were happy, if not they just came back later), people didn't complain about Damageless losing his job and having to focus on his life instead of ours, people simply enjoyed what was available instead of hounding devs about when stuff is coming out.... I must say it'll be released when it's released!
I just don't understand what's so difficult about giving those who give us the time of our lives time to breathe and enjoy their lives too. It shouldn't matter whether a "donation" of a $1 or $1000 is made - the devs (and some of the senior members, shucks, even like me) deserve a lot more respect than what's going around lately. At the end of the day, I just don't want to suffer for following the rules when others decide to wreck it for the rest of us.
Anyway, I just had to rant. I still <3 XDA and always will. This place really has changed my life forever.

That is very well said. Devs should be praised not hounded.

annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.

DomSim said:
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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lol ok you got me

LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.

Noiro said:
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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That's a great way to put it. Didn't think about it like that.

DomSim said:
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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hahaha I knew that was coming from someone.... Hey it is what it is... this place is packed full of redundant and repetitive questions but what ya gonna do...

Noiro said:
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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Everyone was a noob at some point. Don't let that be used as an excuse for bad forum behavior.
Sent from my HTC Evo using XDA App

I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.

One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.

P_Dub_S said:
I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
zone23 said:
One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...

fachadick said:
This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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I lightened up my statement a bit.. its not a lot just a select few.
I've been guilty of wrong thread bashing myself it can be kinda fun. All depends on how out of place the topic is.

P_dub_S has it right. the market just expanded so much for androids. its like when blackberry came out with the Pearl and every teenage girl had one lol... most of the new phones arnt owned by tech people. hopefully in the fallowing months they will calm down. stil think the best forum was the xda section for the eris im just happy to have a phone lol so dont mind me

Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...

ms79723 said:
Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Exactly. What people don't understand is this is a hobby. We are not making a living doing this, and I do not get paid for this. Yes its true that we do receive donations but not NEARLY as many as I think people assume.

imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....

phistyle said:
imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...

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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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He is correct I have seen a few developers take their ROMs elsewhere (create their own website) but I'm not sure it was about money. I have donated to a few chiefs because I understand the time that goes into making these ROMs. Its time I could be spending with my kids. People seems to feel chiefs are obligated to do this for some reason. I do it because I like it not because I want to get paid. I get paid at work. When people complain at you all the time it turns it into work and then it isn't fun anymore.

Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.

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Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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that's where you are wrong...sure "some" people may get smarter, but for every person that gets smarter, 5 more noobs are sure to follow...