Is there anything that will take care of that sudden jerk when you start to scroll in the browser? It's very annoying. It's been improved over the stock ROM using other ROMs, but it's still there. When you start to scroll...it snaps/jerks before getting smooth. Yeah, yeah...I know...we have a SNAPdragon processor... LOL...but hope you know what I mean. Seems to only be happening in the browser, stock/dolphin.
Mine seems very smooth in Dolphin, Im not sure what youre refering to exactly. Is there a video or anything that shows what you mean?
mines smooth as can be as well.
Mines smooth with no snap at first...
Agree with the above people. Can you post a video? Mine's just fine.
Only video camera I currently have is on the Nexus. Sorry. But, you really only notice it, I guess, when you do a slight scroll. It's very minute, but...ah...must just be an OCD of mine.
I think I know what you mean. You scroll and its late to react so it jumps ahead. This is something I only noticed after using another device ( that I wont address by name because it hurts peoples feelings around here )which scrolls a lot smoother. And its not just the browser its all scrolling. But again, if I hadn't used the "other" phone first I wouldn't even notice it.
If you are comparing to the iPhone, this is just because the Android browser isn't optimized as much. It has the GPU power to do it, but you can have a computer chiptset in there and it won't run smooth unless the software is further optimized which I'm sure Android is working on...or hope...
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I think I know what you mean. You scroll and its late to react so it jumps ahead.
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Bingo!
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If you are comparing to the iPhone, this is just because the Android browser isn't optimized as much. It has the GPU power to do it, but you can have a computer chiptset in there and it won't run smooth unless the software is further optimized which I'm sure Android is working on...or hope...
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Man...hope they get it done soon! Or, hope a dev is working on something to get it to 100% perfection...or at least 99%....I think it's at about 96-97 right now. LoL
Yep, the iPhone has much smoother scrolling(there, i said it.), i did a direct comparison in google maps between the n1 and my dad's old ipod touch. The touch movement is far smoother and feels more real, as real as a scrolling image on a screen can be i suppose.
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Ruben1123 said:
If you are comparing to the iPhone, this is just because the Android browser isn't optimized as much. It has the GPU power to do it, but you can have a computer chiptset in there and it won't run smooth unless the software is further optimized which I'm sure Android is working on...or hope...
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Yeah I agree, android is young but google will take care of the shortcomings. Just have to be patient
I can't believe anyone even noticed this!
I've had my nexus one for near 2 months now (and an iphone before that), and I've never noticed this 'problem' until I looked carefully after reading this thread!
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I can't believe anyone even noticed this!
I've had my nexus one for near 2 months now (and an iphone before that), and I've never noticed this 'problem' until I looked carefully after reading this thread!
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Its so laggy and really irritating...it looks great but when updating apps it slows my phone up so bad! I look at google in disgust when they release crap like this...i know they are better than this, they need to show it.
If its just me that experiences these problems then don't flame me too bad...just stating an opinion. ;-)
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i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
Works great on my phone, maybe yours is broken?
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i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
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i think so too,
on my vibrant it looks alright, but that green format on top is just TOO DAMN BIG.
when on landscape it take more than half the screen.
I'd love to keep this, but the green thing is just too big, besides that nothing wrong, it was slow before, now its been way faster for me.
Works great for me.
i dont like it
Works well for me and i like it way better!!
jamesd86 said:
i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
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The market app is a huge improvement in aesthetics
What it does, however, is showcase Android failure IRT UI Accelleration.
It's laggy on a Galaxy S phone. I can only imagine what it would have been like on the Aria I had a while back, or on another low-spec phone.
It seriously runs like I'm trying to run Crysis on Max Settings with an Integrated Graphics card in a computer from 2006...
But the overall looks of the market, and the functionality are a huge improvement.
I do think they should have allowed us to choose out of like 3 or so color schemes, though. Green on white is not cute...
jamesd86 said:
theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
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soo true..
i kind of like it. it performs the same or maybe a little better than the previous market, but i mostly just like the new app description setup and stuff.
No. It doesn't even come close to the performance of the market before it. It performs marketly worse.
And it has like half the reliability (Force Close Happy).
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No. It doesn't even come close to the performance of the market before it. It performs marketly worse.
And it has like half the reliability (Force Close Happy).
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works fine for me.
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works fine for me.
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WorksForMe™
Yes, we know.
/Sarcasm
I like the new look, but the performance has been significantly worse. I expect we'll see improvements/changes as they roll out their promised web accessible android market.
The market is the one area I'd bet significant money on google continuing to improve quickly.
UI is bad, half of the screen is for the advertisement (or recommendation?)
and all the comment and description is packing together in one screen...
and what I really hate is the permission pages,
at least bigger font or bold for those words!
New Market works great for me. Axura 2.1, stock kernal, JK6
reekxda said:
If its just me that experiences these problems then don't flame me too bad...just stating an opinion. ;-)
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Yes, it must be you. My downloads and installs are faster than ever with the new market. And so is my phone. I see no lag what so ever. In fact I see an increase in speed.
Had no issues, slow downs or force closes on Nero V1 so far.
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This really looks good for me but it loads slower when i open it and the old market is much easier to use.
For me the search and downloads on the new market are just way faster. And I also just love the UI. MAYBE its because I'm on froyo but the old market just gave me hang downloads it was just stuck & would not install. Cancelling and redownloading about 2 or 3 times actually got the app installed. I say go with whatever works for your phone.
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Softkeyboard or dock, the delay is killing me.
Its a bug i tried stock and prime v1.4 are the same, still cant type in browser, maxthon...
Opera mobile is normal.
The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
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The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
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Aw, so they need to do a lot to make everything go smoothly.
Now too many unsupported issue.
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The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
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Seems to be a stock browser issue, actually. As others have reported, Opera works fine because it was built from a completely different browser engine.
I found that the lag in the stock browser is minimal if you disable plugins.
Typing lag and potrait frame rate drop; are the biggest reasons why iPad is winning tablet race. U might not think those 2 things are huge issue but have someone who plays with the iPad and give android tab a try will be turned off by this. I know because my brother put down my xformer noticing so much lag and went back to his fluid iPad. Sucks I hope it gets resolved soon
the keyboard lag while typing in the browser is from the browser autocomplete / autosearch. This doesn't make it OK I know. But if you can turn it off (or a rom can turn it off) it should help.
What people are saying about portrait fps I don't know. Scrolling and zooming in the browser and gallery for example go butter smooth whatever my orientation is.
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the keyboard lag while typing in the browser is from the browser autocomplete / autosearch. This doesn't make it OK I know. But if you can turn it off (or a rom can turn it off) it should help.
What people are saying about portrait fps I don't know. Scrolling and zooming in the browser and gallery for example go butter smooth whatever my orientation is.
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not to make fun or anything, but u might not have the eyes to notice a frame drop in portate mode, but its def no where near as smooth as landscape
Since this is (was?) The dev forum I was only giving facts, to help find the source. It's not apparent in every app and or every device. Bb
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Typing lag and potrait frame rate drop; are the biggest reasons why iPad is winning tablet race.
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Well, that and Apple has been in the market almost 2 years. And they advertise at least once on every prime time show I watch.
Anyway, really happy with my Transformer. I'm impressed with how well the apps. work. EVERYTHING WORKS. It may even be better than my Vibrant. Skype and Netflix are my only two issues? Where are you?
I have another tablet (Elocity A7). Same CPU (Froyo), no browser lag. Incredibly snappy. Anyway, the transformer is a huge setup in quality. 3.1 is awesome so far (after a little getting used to).
Generally the browser freakin' awesome. Everything works (except the click lag issue). Something is definitely up with that. I also miss the click highlighting from Froyo.
O wow I've spent a while trying to sort out this issue, glad its not only me!
The lag is pathetic, this is the only thing left letting me down now. I cant believe this is happening with this great tablet!! Google need to sort this out with up-most priority!!
NOW!
Maybe some1 should try to downgrade it to 2.3.3 to reduce the bug in 3.1 )
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Maybe some1 should try to downgrade it to 2.3.3 to reduce the bug in 3.1 )
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Does this happen on the Xoom? If not then maybe someone could port over the apk?
Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
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Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
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Here is mine. The lag is not bad, but pretty much everywhere. Obviously an issue with 4.2.2. I don't know. When it doesn't lag the phone is super smooth. I hope they fix this soon.
Samsung obviously didn't optimize their software to run properly on 4.2.2. Makes me miss how fluid the UI was on the Note 2.
Not the best quality, but still good enough to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPiHs2yacs8&feature=youtu.be
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
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Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
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For tests like this, it's best to clear ram so you're starting with an empty plate. Just like if you were benchmarking, running browser speed tests, etc.
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I dont see a whole lot of lag in that video.
I wouldn't say it looks laggy. It's more sluggish. But its pretty minor.
It's not as fluid as I want it to be. I might get annoyed.
EDIT:
I heard if you turn off all those gimikey features. IE eye detections ect. it should fix the lag a bit.
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ8cTxXrqM&feature=youtu.be
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Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
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Can you do one after the reset. And another one with ALL the gimick features off? Thanks.
Noticed exactly the same on my mates gs3 - it was unusable, up to 3 seconds till home launcher and frequent redraws.
Samsung completely kills androids performance, and for that price and hardware its a shame.
Thats why many people prefer apple - my iPod Touch with 200 apps still runned better than my mates gs3 for almost the double price with 50 apps. Android is getting very, very slow after some use. Calls, sms, apps, after every month you'll loose lets say 10% of performance, related to how you use your phone, more performance loss in the beginning, less after some use.
And touchwiz makes everything sloooww :/
You only notice, when you install 300 apps on iPhone and gs4. Gs4 will lag, I can gurantee.
Especially 4.2.2 was a kind of downgrade, lots things are "tasty" things, you may like or not.
IF Google could bring beak Gingerbreads performance and ram managment + project butter and some new features on android 5.0, I would marry them
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
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I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
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on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
hyghonryce said:
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
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Well based on the polls. They said the korean one has lag but it's minimal. and it appears to be quite minimal on your phone. so it's "normal".
I just bought a Nexus 4, and am waiting for it to arrive. I just read about this dreaded pinch zoom delay (i.e. delay when zooming). Is this still an issue with the latest ROMs/kernels out there? I can see this causing me a lot of frustration if not fixed.
I've already searched, and the threads I've found are all either old or have not been completely answered.
Thanks!
I have no problem with zooming, and I bet that you won't too. Just wait for the phone, and don't read all the bad stuff. It won't do you any good. There are some rare bugs, but most users don't have them.
I don't have any delay in zooming issue either.
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I don't have any delay in zooming issue either.
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I doubt it
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There is no zoom delay, its a dead zone. You have to move your fingers a certain amount before it detects it as a pinch to zoom or zoom out. I think it is intentional. Try doing it extremely slow, you'll see what I mean.
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You shouldn't
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There is no zoom delay, its a dead zone. You have to move your fingers a certain amount before it detects it as a pinch to zoom or zoom out. I think it is intentional. Try doing it extremely slow, you'll see what I mean.
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You've got it right. It's DEFINITELY present and those who don't see it either just innocently don't notice it or are denying it. Every single video review of the N4 I've seen has pointed out this issue (or feature, if you like) and I can very clearly see it on my device as well. OP, I'm not saying you should care about it (I don't even notice it any more) but it does exist.
I thought it was established long ago that the culprit was 'chrome' browser.. i just checked it in AOSP browser i cant seem to see any delay.
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You've got it right. It's DEFINITELY present and those who don't see it either just innocently don't notice it or are denying it. Every single video review of the N4 I've seen has pointed out this issue (or feature, if you like) and I can very clearly see it on my device as well. OP, I'm not saying you should care about it (I don't even notice it any more) but it does exist.
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yeah its definitely there, but it is not lag, not even kind of, or delay or anything. it doesn't really bother me, i dont know why some people get so worked about it. what would happen if they cranked the dead zone down to zero... everyone would complain that its impossible to fine tune how close and far they are trying to zoom, or they keep zooming in and out on accident lol.
Yup, defiantly by design. If you start with your fingers already apart some, there is no delay at all.
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Hate this deadzone!
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yeah its definitely there, but it is not lag, not even kind of, or delay or anything. it doesn't really bother me, i dont know why some people get so worked about it. what would happen if they cranked the dead zone down to zero... everyone would complain that its impossible to fine tune how close and far they are trying to zoom, or they keep zooming in and out on accident lol.
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the iphone don't have it so does my sister's xtreamer joyz(newman n2) with android 4.1.1 no one ever complained about hard fine tuning zoom!
i have this dreadfull deadzone too on my htc one x running aosp based 4.3(cm10.2) while on my sister's phone its a pleasent user experience.
note: THIS "LAG" IS NOT PRESENT IN FIREFOX!(no deadzone at all)
so definatly its an andorid gallery/gmail/browser(and any relying software like g+ whatsapp etc...) thingy.
this minimal distance deadzone is coming into notice when you are used to start zooming with fingers close together.
aka how zoom should be.
any way of trimming that distance out?
Can anyone please report if they are seeing lots of crazy frame drops on this phone? I'm running rooted Xxx No Limits, but have observed the same on Elemental OS too. When you turn on 'Profile GPU Rendering' in the Developer Settings to 'On screen bars', I see a crazy amount of frame drops every where. I bought this phone because it is suppose to offer the best smoothness and performance rivaling only the Pixel, specially after the fantastic 3T. Attached are some images showing the frame drops on even mundane tasks like scrolling Settings menu. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
I use Action Launcher, but can anyone report if they see this on their stock launcher or other launchers?
PS: The phone 'seems' smooth and fast when doing these tasks. It doesn't seem to slow down and drop frames like crazy like an S8 or G6, which can be seen with the naked eye. It's only when I turn on GPU profiling that I can detect these frame drops. Is the GPU profiling reporting 'broken' and incorrectly reporting lots of frame drops? I'm confused.
Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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I don't see the jelly scrolling effect on my phone. I'm not sure if this frame drop issue and the jelly scrolling effect are related. Its interesting to know that you see a lot more frame drops in the rendering.
i agreed with you, for this phone having the latest 835 which is suppose to give a straight line of performance (no frame drops) yet i see a lot of those
what the hell is going on with this phone ...
i dont know if its the phone or the softwere but im so returning, the only reason i bought was because of the 835 and because its was the latest and will give you continues performance, its all a lie
Probably because the screen is upside down!
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Probably because the screen is upside down!
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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Just tested on a Galaxy S8 and that graph looks even worst!!!!
What's happening?!?! Snap 835 is the culprit?
But I've seen a review with the HTC U11 and it doesn't do this.
Yeah mine is far from smooth as well, dunno,it just does not scroll smooth, my Nexus 5 on MIUI is soooo much smoother, way less frame drops.. I suppose theissue will vanish with the right ROM / Optmization, perhaps changing to a different CPU governor could help already..
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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I'm right there with you brother.. The auto brightness has been a "real" issue for me. I have not had the jelly thing but then again I didn't go looking for it. The camera? Well I took what I though were some really nice looking photos over the 4th.
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Thank god I am not the only one, reading through some of the threads I am starting to feel like I am the crazy here. People are like "The phone is smooth but this tool is showing frame drops, **** Oneplus, I am returning this phone."
So they will return a 500€ flagship which runs smooth and they dont notice lags without a tool? They expect that the CPU is the cause of frame drops?
Seriously, this must be a joke. Its just looking for a problem when you dont have one.
I do notice the jelly scrolling, but its minimal, so its kinda cool, like a subtle animation.
Camera could be better but nobody can say its bad, they just overhyped it and didn't meet expectation.
Battery life is like out of this world, I got 8h of SoT, good luck on other phones with that.
No other issues were encountered in the meantime. Perfect phone.
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
Here's Chrome:
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I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
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The screenshot you have posted doesn't show any frame drops. Can you let e know what kernel you are using?
Here are my rom and kernel details. No governor settings changes etc, I'm just using the kernel out-the-box.