hi all. I just wondering why my phone doesn't know his own number. shall I install some additional in order to do that? (take a look)
The phone number is stored on a field on your SIM card. Its not needed at all for Network operation, and is just there for you're phone to display in its menu.
As long as you know you're own phone number dont worry about it
same on mine - I wondered why at first, but since it doesn't seem to make any difference, I don't really care any more.
I had before my Nexus a Hero, and an iPhone and with Movistar carrier the number was shown in all the phones, with the other carrier, Simyo, it's not shown.
It's only a problem in the SIM
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A little off topic, I know, but has anybody been able to use something like this --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9104458427&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1&rd=1 to make a copy of their Exec's O2 sim for us in another phone for situations where the exec isn't appropriate?
It would be handy to have a second phone for use when I don't want to take the Exec without having to keep swapping the sim.
Cheers,
Steve.
these wont work for the exec, because you will receive a 3g card from o2. this package looks like it will only take standard gsm sims ie 2 and 2.5g. also, i think the new sims in general are not "crackable" at this point.
Doesn't O2 offer this as a LEGAL service?
The SIM in your phone is probably legally defined as O2 property, and they've probably not agreed to copying of their product.
If you read all of the fine print, you'll probably see some stuff about this.
But, yes: It's nice..
2 sims - one number
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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davebo said:
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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No, but if you can select between 16 numbers to use, then surely, it's like copying 16 sims into 1? Even if I were to only copy 1 sim, if it could act as if it were that sim in another phone, then that would do the job.
Cheers,
Steve.
There is a slight problem in all of this. You cannot have to sims logged on using the same MISDN . So all that would happen is the operator would be alerted to the fact that 2 sims were trying to usre the same MISDN and you would be put into the fraud management system and the phone might be disconnected.
When people scan and clone phones they do not use the phone on standby for long periods of time they simply make a few calls and switch off. Unless they time it when the real user is logged on and tries to make a call it is unlikely to be picked up.
Also it will vconfuse the HLR in the gsm network .
So all in all onot a good idea.
Charlie
Hm? Back home in the Netherlands we used to be able to get two SIMs with the same number from our providers... The idea was, you had one in your built-in car phone, and one in your portable handset; when you got out of the car, switch that phone off, and the other one on, and it'll register the other SIM, and hey presto! You could not use both SIMs at the same time, ofcourse.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
In the Nehterlands I know that KPN and t-Mobile offer dual sims, the problem is as mentioned here already that you can not use them both at the same time. Also if you have 3G sim the second sim you get is not 3G. those are the rules by KPN.
I used to live in Israel and there Orange gives out dua sims where you can keep both phones on. On the incoming call both phones ring at the same time and you can decide which to pick up. The SMS trafic thought goes to the phone which was turned on first. The way they are doing this is by giving both sims an extra GHOST number which used to start with a Zero. then what they did was simply forward the calls between two sims. They had a huge blunder though: Forwarding officially costs money but in this case it has to be free, so they by mistake on their first couple of bill specifications posted the forwarding calls with Zero as charge, thus I was able to know what are the ghost numbers and call between the phones completely for free. It did mean that the you could call the the ghost numbers only from those 2 phones and not any other phone, kind of internal cirquit. So we enjoyed it very much since my wife and me just used those two phones and comunications between these two was free of charge.
So as you see technicaly it is possible to make both phones ring at the same time....
Hi, I just upgraded to the new ROM and now whenever I get a call the caller ID decides to include two additional 1's in front of the number. I can understand adding one 1 because I live in the US, but the other one? For example for a 203 area code it will show up 1 (120) 302 9355 1....This is a HUGE problem cause it distorts the whole number and the numbers in my phone book don't match. Please help!!! Is there a registry hack or anything I can do?
It's possibly to do with the US international dialing code being +1. When I was in the US there seemed to be no standard way of specifying international numbers (because the US/Canada don't follow the conventions used in the rest of the world) - when I got a call from an international number, it would sometimes show as +447740123456, or sometimes 011447740123456, or even worse, sometimes 0114477401234 (cutting off the last few digits of the number!) - that was for calls from the UK. This seemed to vary by whatever network I was roaming on.
What I do notice though, normally the caller ID works pretty well regardless what junk shows at the start of the number, as long as the last 8 or 9 digits match it tallys it up with the contact number...
Not sure how you can fix your problem, I expect there is a registry value which sets the phone number format for various places in the world, but I dunno what it is. I'm guessing you upgraded a US-based ROM (T-mob/Cingular?) to a European/ROW ROM (i-mate/qtek?)
Actually no, just updated the ROM to universal English, just keeping it simple. I had no problem with this ever, and its frustrating becuase yes it is an international 1 at the beginning but it screws up the area codes, so therefore the wrong number gets called. Since i use this for business and need to store many of the incomming calls in my phonebook its been the biggest hassle and would appreciate anyone that could help on this matter.
Thanks guys. I have cingular.
By European, I meant a Q-tek/i-mate based ROM as opposed to a Cingular/T-Mobile based ROM. Since the most up to date ROMs are Q-tek and i-mate, I assume you updated to one of these (which aren't targetted at the US market). Hence, WWE or not, there would appear to be some setting for the US phone system and the rest of world phone system.
Is it possible to somehow hack my phone/sim to include two different phone accounts, one being Tmobile and the other Cingular? I dont like carrying around two phones.
you dont need to hack ... it already exist ---- you can buy Sim card with 2 or more telephony provider ... (got 2 czech providers) -.-- when i want to got Vodafone, just a few click, and it will tell me new messages and missed calls, and after i switch to T-mobile and i can continue my work
Maximus-CZ said:
you dont need to hack ... it already exist ---- you can buy Sim card with 2 or more telephony provider ... (got 2 czech providers) -.-- when i want to got Vodafone, just a few click, and it will tell me new messages and missed calls, and after i switch to T-mobile and i can continue my work
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WoW, didn't know you could get a sim card with two providers on it. My friend got this knockoff iPhone a while ago. Was a really bad knockoff. So bad that the warning label on the back of the phone (where it stated that only apple can use THIS apple logo) was mispelt (lol) waring. Anways back to the original point, the cheap knockoff allowed you to put in two sim cards at once. I can't wait for someone to implement this feature into a windows phone so you can use 'em both at one time. Very useful for us canadians who don't want to shell out a thick wad of cash to use the internet, and would like to use a second sim card for a data connection.
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dont mean to thread jack, but can do the reverse? get 2 sim cards with the same info? i love my wing, but for work i need a regular phone. one that is simple, and able to make calls asap.. instead of unlocking, entering a pw and pressing the grn button and than fumbling with the touch screen.. for work i need to be able to flip the phone open with one hand and call emergency numbers as fast as possible, so for work i take my sim card out and put it in a reg tmo phone.. would love to be able to use both phone with 2 diff sims.
any 1 know if its possible?
i know its possible in the netherlands (also t mobile) here its called something like "sim duo" better ask your provider
thewingzman said:
dont mean to thread jack, but can do the reverse? get 2 sim cards with the same info? i love my wing, but for work i need a regular phone. one that is simple, and able to make calls asap.. instead of unlocking, entering a pw and pressing the grn button and than fumbling with the touch screen.. for work i need to be able to flip the phone open with one hand and call emergency numbers as fast as possible, so for work i take my sim card out and put it in a reg tmo phone.. would love to be able to use both phone with 2 diff sims.
any 1 know if its possible?
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i believe that's illegal in the states, i know it is in canada
Tengis said:
Is it possible to somehow hack my phone/sim to include two different phone accounts, one being Tmobile and the other Cingular? I dont like carrying around two phones.
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Should be able to do it with no legal issues, I would think (if you're in the US).
Back in the day (12 - 15 years ago), phones were easily purchased with dual-nams (I had one from Motorola), which is how multiple phone numbers were assigned to a single device before the advent of SIM cards, device locking, long term contracts, etc.
You can get a dual-sim adapter from a couple of companies, but here's a link to one that has several types and lists their compatibility with various phones:
http://www.simore.ch/en/
I used a dual sim adapter briefly in a QTEK. It sucked.
If memory serves network locking is about to become illegal here in UK so I imagine dual sim kit will really take off here shortly.
Hey does anyone know if there is anyway to make a copy of the sim card so i can have 2 cards with the same number?
Not that I am aware of. I believe the ID is pretty much unchangeable on a sim but these days almost anything is possible. I know that T-Mobile's system will not allow two sims with the same ID on the network at the same time. Not realy sure but I think there are legal issues with it as well. If it is illegal then better to just let it go.
It is possible to copy your SIM card, however you cannot have two SIMs with the same serial number registered on any network at one time. You must power off one phone then power on the other.
Beware though, SIM card cloners are very slow and carry a significant risk of ruining your existing SIM card in the process.
If you still want to do it, eBay is your friend.
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Hey does anyone know if there is anyway to make a copy of the sim card so i can have 2 cards with the same number?
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I know they have that device at Tmobile stores. I had them use it for me to clone my existing sim card that was going bad.
the device they use at T-Mobile stores only copies your contacts. the actual SIM id is changed in their system so that your account, phone number, and SIM id all line up. once a SIM is bad the number is no longer used. and yes, Ebay is your friend.
my phone number shows up as unknown under my about phone page. so when i send a text it just shows a grey box instead of my contact picture, i know its not a big deal but its driving me crazy! is there anyway to change this?
Settings->Call settings->Additional settings->My phone number
Thats only with Cyanogen mod.
Add yourself as a contact in the phonebook
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that doesnt work. the phone has to read its own number off the sim card. adding yourself doesnt do anything.
What ROM are you running? I know there were instances in the past where T-Mobile did not program the phone number into the SIM properly. Supposedly you could ask their customer support guys to push the number back to your SIM. Alternatively, if you have a spare phone that supports writing a number into a SIM, you could use that to program your SIM. I know my old Nokia's and Sony Ericsson's could. Maybe my old WM phone as well?
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Settings->Call settings->Additional settings->My phone number
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I just did this and it fixed the gray box next to my name, that box was really annoying. Thank you so much.
the additional call settings thing works just fine on CM6. my problem is that it works on some roms and not other @[email protected] annoying.
Out of curiosity, which ROM are you running? Are you saying that the number is correctly read from the SIM on some ROMs and only not on your current ROM (in which case, what I said earlier about the number not being properly stored on the SIM doesn't apply)? If that's the case, it sounds like an issue with the ROM itself and the ROM developer will need to look into it (either fixing the SIM reading code or adding in the functionality to input it in yourself like on CM).
well i switch between a few... stock, CM6, CM7, Virtuous. Here is the extremely weird thing though.....
I have an old sim card from a previous phone. The phone number used with that sim is the same as my current sim. when i put that in, say on CM7, it reads the number just fine, but when i put my activated sim in, it doesnt read it and says "unknown".
Any thoughts on whats up with that?
I know CM6 has the option to manually enter the number but CM7 doesnt have it yet. But its strange that it reads it off a different sim and not the current one.
(both sims are from same carrier too)
Call tmo, ask them to send your MSISDN to sim via OTA tool in the HLR, they'll know what to do, its a known issue with some sim cards, regardless of the rom
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^ okay, i shall try that tomorrow probably. i just hate having to call tech support lol, i want to be able to do it myself with the modding community, not tmo XD
Isn't there an app in the Market that allows you to add your phone number to the SIM card (in case you're not running a CM based ROM)? I know I read it somewhere on this site, but for whatever reason I can't seem to find it.
Any ideas?
Same with Andromadus ROM
Hello,
I've been experiencing the same behavior on the CM10-based Andromadus ROM prepared by Flinny as of topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605016. A lot of SIM IO operations just fails, I can't see why (comparing to another Desire Z which runs stock 2.3.3 up to date).
At least, it breaks :
- SPN retrieval (Service Provider Name)
- MSISDN retrivial (your phone number)
And I think it's related to the impossibility to import contacts from SIM card.
Maybe this message can help, too https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-platform/zosqRzWQyNA/7QF-O09ZwzAJ