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I have to rave on this stereo BT head set. I have been tying to find one that I like for quite some time really exercising the 30 day return policies. I wanted somthing that had the best of both worlds, regular mono ear piece and an atachable ear bud for the stereo and this one has deffinatly got it right. Best sound yet, best fit and good looking. I was very impresed I think this one is a keeper, oh one down fall the price but still under $120.
I have one since december. It is (was) great, but...
The concept is great. The size too. The sound is OK to good with both earplugs. Problems are:
- the connection of the second earplug with the main one (the one with the battery) is very, very sensitive. After two months of use, it became so loose that I lost contact and couldn't use the stereo anymore. They should have made it like a "screw" plug or even an small USB plug, or RCA plug. The way it is, two small metal plates on the setero plug that have to "touch" another two small metal plates in the main plug is too sensitive and unreliable for real usage.
- two weeks ago, the place where you connected the stereo plug and which now I was using to plug the ear hook broke...
- Now I'm using it just with the earbud... only six months.
Again, great concept, and bad implemantation. I even thought about buying another one and use it more gently, but I guess that's unrealistic. I believe I should be able to put the headphone in my pocket or bag without worring too much.
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southsideservz said:
I have to rave on this stereo BT head set. I have been tying to find one that I like for quite some time really exercising the 30 day return policies. I wanted somthing that had the best of both worlds, regular mono ear piece and an atachable ear bud for the stereo and this one has deffinatly got it right. Best sound yet, best fit and good looking. I was very impresed I think this one is a keeper, oh one down fall the price but still under $120.
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I found and bought mine (Voyager 855) after searching on the internet...plain white box, plenty of replacement pieces, for onlyl.... ready for this....
$46.00.
The only issue I ever had was making sure it was connected when I needed it, installing A2DPToggle solved that issue, and all is now right with the world.
MBN
PS: got mine at cellphoneshop.net/855.html and have had several coworkers order from them and all has worked out well. Unfortunately, they've been out of stock for about a month now
MustBNuts said:
I found and bought mine (Voyager 855) after searching on the internet...plain white box, plenty of replacement pieces, for onlyl.... ready for this....
$46.00.
The only issue I ever had was making sure it was connected when I needed it, installing A2DPToggle solved that issue, and all is now right with the world.
MBN
PS: got mine at cellphoneshop.net/855.html and have had several coworkers order from them and all has worked out well. Unfortunately, they've been out of stock for about a month now
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How did A2DPToggle solve what? Mine stays connected most of the time.
SouthSideSvz,
before I installed the toggle, for unknown reasons the connection would drop and I found reconnecting a pain....
A caveat, though, this was happening when I first got the phone and the earpiece....haven't had any problems since then. But I have heard that the BT can drain the battery, so with the toggle I can shut down BT on the phone side too.
How much of it is a crutch, who knows... but I like it!
MBN
MustBNuts said:
SouthSideSvz,
before I installed the toggle, for unknown reasons the connection would drop and I found reconnecting a pain....
A caveat, though, this was happening when I first got the phone and the earpiece....haven't had any problems since then. But I have heard that the BT can drain the battery, so with the toggle I can shut down BT on the phone side too.
How much of it is a crutch, who knows... but I like it!
MBN
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I just bought this same headset, and have also experienced it dropping connection and being hard to get reconnected. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. At this point, do you think the toggle app is actually helping the problem?
I'm wondering if it's not just the simple fact that you turn bluetooth off and on, so it sort of resets itself, rather than anything this program does differently. However, I'm more than willing to give it a try!
I have one since about 6 months ago. A friend of mine that works at Plantronics Mexico gave it to me as a present and to test it out.
Honestly it's been a great product, it even survived a trip to the washer machine and it's still ticking!
The only problem I see with this particular set is that the connector on the loop is really flimsy (I'm on my second loop) so you'd better be careful and never let it plugged in while you store it on your pants or backpack, it breaks really easy (maybe it's just because my unit it's a pre-production set) but be careful nevertheless.
The sound is really bassy and loud for such small speakers it has very nice sound range.
The battery lasts for a few days of moderate use on stereo and a few weeks moderate use on mono.
One thing I like about it (which many will find disturbing) is that it isolates all sound from the exterior, so be careful while driving or things like that.
I give a 8.5/10 to this product.
I liked mine as much as you did, but then it didn't last long enough as I explained above.
I do believe they can change the implementation and keep all its good qualities that are many (let's be honest, there is not one other set that is as discreet/small and less cumbersome than this). I would know how to do it, so they just have to be willing to do so, I guess.
Perhaps you can pass my ideas to your friend. I would share them for free...
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I liked mine as much as you did, but then it didn't last long enough as I explained above.
I do believe they can change the implementation and keep all its good qualities that are many (let's be honest, there is not one other set that is as discreet/small and less cumbersome than this). I would know how to do it, so they just have to be willing to do so, I guess.
Perhaps you can pass my ideas to your friend. I would share them for free...
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I will pass the info to my friend ASAP. However as far as I know, the Bluetooth Division was recently moved to China...
I remember my pal told me beforehand that this particular model has some (undisclosed) issues (well he mentioned battery not lasting long enough). Same with a newer mono model called Diamond or something like that.
Hey, these are just user's ideas. I'm not talking about engineering stuff.
They seem to be simple things (though you never know) like:
- connection of the stereo earbud: the way it is, it is just two metal plates touching each other. Very easy for things to get loose and lose contact. Happened with me. They either should use a RCA type plug or USB type plug (most likely).
- Also the stereo connection is also used to help support the headset on our ears. Fact is the headset weight is put on...THE STEREO CONTACTS, helping them get loose. So, Ear hook should be separated from connection to relieve it from weight stress.
- they could position the stereo connection where presently is the charger, and perhaps (if possible) make the connection be dual function like the Kaiser, where you can use the mini-USB both to charge and to connect headphone.
My two cents. Seems feasible.
Got my voyager 855 and it's sounds muffled on one earbud (the one with buttons). Using Tilt with one of the hybrid Dutty roms. The one you piggyback to main unit sounds much louder and very clear. Tested also without putting them in ear and with eargels off, switched ears. Anything I can try before requesting a replacement?
Thanks!
I recently installed the GA5151F in my 2007 mazdaspeed. I do did not get any manuals for it. They gave me a link for a website manual but that unit was not listed. Does anyone have those? I contacted Eonon too and if I get them I will post them here.
I am also wondering if I can use the Malaysk rom with this unit and if so is there a guide to doing it? I have been searching and reading but not quite sure exactly what I need. The info for this seems to be all over the place or else I am just not seeing it. I have rooted and flashed android devices before. Thank you for all and any help.
I have the same unit in my Mazda3 with no manuals. Didn't really ever need it though since there was an installation video. What exactly are you looking for with the manual?
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I have the same unit in my Mazda3 with no manuals. Didn't really ever need it though since there was an installation video. What exactly are you looking for with the manual?
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I wasn't looking for anything specific, just wanted to look it over to see if I was missing anything important. Did you modify yours with a different rom or anything?
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I wasn't looking for anything specific, just wanted to look it over to see if I was missing anything important. Did you modify yours with a different rom or anything?
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Not yet. I've actually been looking over a lot of sources to see what changes I can make. Malaysk ROM looks like it should be good as long as you use the ones for RK3188 / 800 x 480 resolution. That can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3246370. Information and instructions on where I found that it works is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/eonon-ga5153f-mcu-t3217479/page2
It looks like changing the rom is fine as long as you don't make any changes to the MCU because i don't find any support for MTCB-ZD.
You can also find other useful apps and information at the following link that are applicable to most android units:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Hui_Fei_Type#MTCB_Android_Automotive_Head_Units
Let me know if you make any changes to your system as I won't have access to mine for another two weeks.
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Not yet. I've actually been looking over a lot of sources to see what changes I can make. Malaysk ROM looks like it should be good as long as you use the ones for RK3188 / 800 x 480 resolution. That can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3246370. Information and instructions on where I found that it works is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units/eonon-ga5153f-mcu-t3217479/page2
It looks like changing the rom is fine as long as you don't make any changes to the MCU because i don't find any support for MTCB-ZD.
You can also find other useful apps and information at the following link that are applicable to most android units:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Hui_Fei_Type#MTCB_Android_Automotive_Head_Units
Let me know if you make any changes to your system as I won't have access to mine for another two weeks.
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Thanks a lot for the info, I may just mess with it this weekend. I will keep you posted.
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I got a little bored last night and decided to go through with this.
I put the update_4_4_4_FUSE_800X480_RK3188_16_MAL_22_05_2016_AUDIO on my head unit and it worked.
I put update.img on the root of a usb stick and put it in the port labeled usb.
I turned on the unit and went into the Settings menu, move to very bottom of the menu, select “About tablet”
Select “System Updates”
Select “Wipe data from the flash” option and click “Install”
I then let it fully install and it sat at the mazda logo forever. I finally read more of the instructions and saw it will always do that.
I shut the car off.
I then turned the car back on holding the power button and I pushed the reset button, not sure which one did it but then it showed it was erasing
After that it booted up and everything worked well.
My only issue is that the Android Head Unit app service thing does not control google music, which is the only music app I really want to use.
Any ideas?
Also is there a guide for this rom and all the cool features it has?
I also don't understand how I stop the radio when I switch to another app like google music? It keeps playing unless I hit the mode button and switch to music.
Another problem I would like to address is when my phone connects over bluetooth for it to auto turn on wifi tether, I think tasker can do this but I wasn't sure if there was another app. I do really like this head unit but I have a lot of tweaking to do before I get it where I would like it.
JohnnyTightlips said:
I got a little bored last night and decided to go through with this.
I put the update_4_4_4_FUSE_800X480_RK3188_16_MAL_22_05_2016_AUDIO on my head unit and it worked.
I put update.img on the root of a usb stick and put it in the port labeled usb.
I turned on the unit and went into the Settings menu, move to very bottom of the menu, select “About tablet”
Select “System Updates”
Select “Wipe data from the flash” option and click “Install”
I then let it fully install and it sat at the mazda logo forever. I finally read more of the instructions and saw it will always do that.
I shut the car off.
I then turned the car back on holding the power button and I pushed the reset button, not sure which one did it but then it showed it was erasing
After that it booted up and everything worked well.
My only issue is that the Android Head Unit app service thing does not control google music, which is the only music app I really want to use.
Any ideas?
Also is there a guide for this rom and all the cool features it has?
I also don't understand how I stop the radio when I switch to another app like google music? It keeps playing unless I hit the mode button and switch to music.
Another problem I would like to address is when my phone connects over bluetooth for it to auto turn on wifi tether, I think tasker can do this but I wasn't sure if there was another app. I do really like this head unit but I have a lot of tweaking to do before I get it where I would like it.
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Thanks for the info. Should be useful when I get to it so I don't freak out from the logo.
For Google Play Music: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63877529 . I think this app just had a checkbutton for me to use spotify, but it should support google play although I'm not sure if you need to do anything extra.
Malaysk guide: I am not aware of any, but it seems to be used across a lot of head units so there is probably some videos on YouTube.
Radio issue: I think it may be a bug in Eonon's MCU which is only updated by Eonon and you probably have to specifically ask them for any updates. I may do that at some point because it annoys me also. I usually was just exiting out using the back button before I found that mode fixes it temporarily just recently. You might be able to just use Tasker to kill the radio app whenever Google Play Music is opened.
Auto-tether: I used tasker to do this whenever it connects to EONON on bluetooth and would automatically end the tether when disconnected. Other apps may work such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.inrete.autotethering&hl=en
As for me, I used to have my unit set up where tasker on the phone would turn on hotspot and use spotify through the head unit. Now, I just have my HU start up at bluetooth and tasker on my phone opens a specific spotify playlist whenever it detects i am connected to Eonon. I mainly do this just because I download songs on spotify and podcasts to my phone whenever I'm on wifi to save data. I'm thinking about mirroring my phone using EasyConnected and seeing how that works out on the HU.
JohnnyTightlips said:
I recently installed the GA5151F in my 2007 mazdaspeed. I do did not get any manuals for it. They gave me a link for a website manual but that unit was not listed. Does anyone have those? I contacted Eonon too and if I get them I will post them here.
I am also wondering if I can use the Malaysk rom with this unit and if so is there a guide to doing it? I have been searching and reading but not quite sure exactly what I need. The info for this seems to be all over the place or else I am just not seeing it. I have rooted and flashed android devices before. Thank you for all and any help.
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Is it an MTCB head unit ? Can you post a pic of your settings/about device screen ?
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Is it an MTCB head unit ? Can you post a pic of your settings/about device screen ?
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Will post pics soon, life is crazy busy atm.
http://imgur.com/a/hoWtd
Is this what you are looking for?
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http://imgur.com/a/hoWtd
Is this what you are looking for?
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Yeah, the last pic was.
You have an MTCB units made by ZD.
There are some manuals around, come KLD ROMs have them on the unit, you dont really need one, but if you must one have I could get a copy for you, its not very detailed and its the same for all units from all manufacturers apart from minor details like the launcher.
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Yeah, the last pic was.
You have an MTCB units made by ZD.
There are some manuals around, come KLD ROMs have them on the unit, you dont really need one, but if you must one have I could get a copy for you, its not very detailed and its the same for all units from all manufacturers apart from minor details like the launcher.
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Eonon just sent me this.
Wish you a good day.
Sorry for inconvenience caused.
Here is online user manual for your reference:
http://i.sbo2.com/page/GASeriesAndroid4.4Manual(eonon)_EN.html
Here is an installation video for your reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIsormC28A
Any further questions pls feel free to contact me.
Have a nice day.
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Yeah, the last pic was.
You have an MTCB units made by ZD.
There are some manuals around, come KLD ROMs have them on the unit, you dont really need one, but if you must one have I could get a copy for you, its not very detailed and its the same for all units from all manufacturers apart from minor details like the launcher.
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Does that microphone mod still apply to these units? I have not had a chance to test the external mic but it is all hooked up. Another thing I was wondering is if you still need to do the audio mod to get better sound quality on these units as well. I won't be taking it apart any time soon but when I upgrade to an amp and better speakers I might if that is still needed. I also can not figure out how to get the screensaver mph to display anything and the clock is wrong. Thanks for the help.
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Does that microphone mod still apply to these units? I have not had a chance to test the external mic but it is all hooked up. Another thing I was wondering is if you still need to do the audio mod to get better sound quality on these units as well. I won't be taking it apart any time soon but when I upgrade to an amp and better speakers I might if that is still needed. I also can not figure out how to get the screensaver mph to display anything and the clock is wrong. Thanks for the help.
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The ZD units are relatively rare, I think youd have to take yours apart to see about the mic set up, but its probably roughly the same as the other units, which are all slightly different but they all need modding, best check out the mic mod thread to see if anyone has done it to a ZD unit.
Pretty certain it will have he audio controller hooked up to the MCU rather than Android so you would need to do 7floor's audio mod, assuming of course that youre not happy with the sound as it is, there is a slight sound quality improvement with the Lollipop update so you may wanna try that.
What screensaver is that, one from on here or did it come on the unit ?
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It looks like changing the rom is fine as long as you don't make any changes to the MCU because i don't find any support for MTCB-ZD.
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Its not that the MCU is not suported, its that the ZD units have only started appearing recently so they are no MCU updates yet, plus you cant get a copy of the MCU off the unit, in time ZD MCU updates will no doubt turn up.
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Radio issue: I think it may be a bug in Eonon's MCU which is only updated by Eonon and you probably have to specifically ask them for any updates. I may do that at some point because it annoys me also. I usually was just exiting out using the back button before I found that mode fixes it temporarily just recently. You might be able to just use Tasker to kill the radio app whenever Google Play Music is opened.
Auto-tether: I used tasker to do this whenever it connects to EONON on bluetooth and would automatically end the tether when disconnected. Other apps may work such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.inrete.autotethering&hl=en
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These units need an app to control switching between music apps other than the MTC ones that they come with, otherwise your ll get 2 sources playing at once, this is what @JohnnyTightlips was referring to.
Eonon are sellers ONLY, all they do is buy these from ZD, stick badges on and sell them, they do not make the MCU or have anything to do with it, its a ZD MCU ie, like all the other MTCB units, its an STMicroElectronics MCU with software developed by MTC for ZD. Its not an Eonon MCU, the radio issue he was talking about is the one I referred to above.
Forget about Eonon (apart from as a possible source of updates) and about "GA5151F" (it means nothing), you both have ZD MTCB head units - a good example is if you bought a BMW from a dealers called Smith & Son, you dont have a car called a Smiths & Son, you have a BMW.
My next and previous track steering wheel controls don't seem to work in Google play music. I see the next and previous toast come up on the screen when I press them but nothing happens in the app. volume and mute work great. I'm not sure if maybe there is a setting I'm missing. I also don't know what the control settings app does. And in the viper audio tool what settings do I adjust for Android music apps? Also what is the biggest fat32 SD card I can have in each slot 128gb? Thanks for the help.
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Does that microphone mod still apply to these units? I have not had a chance to test the external mic but it is all hooked up. Another thing I was wondering is if you still need to do the audio mod to get better sound quality on these units as well. I won't be taking it apart any time soon but when I upgrade to an amp and better speakers I might if that is still needed. I also can not figure out how to get the screensaver mph to display anything and the clock is wrong. Thanks for the help.
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Isn't the mic mod just for units that only have internal mics? The HU already has the option for an external microphone so I don't see much reason needed to solder in an external mic. Nobody that's called me has complained of the internal mic so I haven't even connected an external yet, but I might next time I take it out because it's too annoying to put back in.
I have the external mic hooked up and did a test the other day. I was driving at 80mph and the person on the other line said I sounded great and it sounded like I was using the phone itself. My external is mounted to the top/side of the steering column.
JohnnyTightlips said:
My next and previous track steering wheel controls don't seem to work in Google play music. I see the next and previous toast come up on the screen when I press them but nothing happens in the app. volume and mute work great. I'm not sure if maybe there is a setting I'm missing. I also don't know what the control settings app does. And in the viper audio tool what settings do I adjust for Android music apps? Also what is the biggest fat32 SD card I can have in each slot 128gb? Thanks for the help.
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Control settings is for CAN Bus data, different apps will appear depending on what setting you have your unit set on in factory settings.
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Isn't the mic mod just for units that only have internal mics? The HU already has the option for an external microphone so I don't see much reason needed to solder in an external mic. Nobody that's called me has complained of the internal mic so I haven't even connected an external yet, but I might next time I take it out because it's too annoying to put back in.
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All units have built in mics, most people find it useless for calls but some find it ok for google now.
JohnnyTightlips said:
I have the external mic hooked up and did a test the other day. I was driving at 80mph and the person on the other line said I sounded great and it sounded like I was using the phone itself. My external is mounted to the top/side of the steering column.
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Most, but not all, people find they need to do the mic mod.
Does that canbus app let you do anything? I opened it and it have a bunch of buttons but nothing seemed to do anything. Is that where I am supposed to set what the steering controls do?
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Does that canbus app let you do anything? I opened it and it have a bunch of buttons but nothing seemed to do anything. Is that where I am supposed to set what the steering controls do?
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No, its not for SWC, only for CAN Bus, not all cars are supported.
Mirrored from my Amazon review on this unit:
Here are all of the pieces we purchased with the A62721PB 2G/32G, in order to install in our 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 truck. Install is still not complete, but I'll get to that in a bit.
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As you can see, its an ordeal to install this unit. Even the manufacturer doesn't seem to understand the vehicles it will be installed in, in our case, a 06 Ram 1500. Standard Chrysler wiring (would be the same for almost any 06 Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep... etc) telling me to tap into the -5v canbus wiring as the accessory switch. To properly install this in those vehicles, you need a CanBus adapter, which will give you the ability to turn to ACC and run the unit, and allow it to dim with the interior lighting. Neither of those are done in a 12v switched wire in these vehicles. Oh, and you will need an antenna adapter too... both of these I have yet to buy . If you have more than basic radio functions in your vehicle, you need a better install kit. Basic wiring wont cut it to do the job right.
As it is, I used a tap to the ignition switch (+12v) to turn the unit on until I have a few bucks to pick up a proper install. So think of all of that when buying. To get all the functions, you need more parts, so a $300 radio turns into a $500 radio quick.
OK.. Use. Most of my use is with Google Maps, Amazon Music (offline) or the backup cam. Getting those or any software setup with large downloads was a pain, as this unit shuts off the wifi with the key, so no updates while you sleep, and no way to turn that functionality on. Unless you leave your keys in the vehicle (not the best choice). And with the sub-par performance of the wifi in this unit, its going to take a while. I can see my home wifi all over my property with our phones. The truck only seems to see my neighbor's connection. The antenna is mounted under the black part of the windshield trim, just out of view. In fact, the only good reception I've gotten is with a portable hotspot in the truck. The A6 also cannot seem to see our 5gHz channels. These seem to be built to the same standards as generic 2010 tablets.
The built in pairing is useless. It just shares the screen image with the head unit. No controls, no passthrough... just video. If I wanted to use my phone I would have stuck to the ram mount. PDA-Net is the only way I've been able to connect, as my phone plan doesn't include wifi hotspot.
Speaking of phone hookup and this unity, you can share data (like PDA. net) or use fast charge. not both? And those USB leads really should come with some sort of bracket and template for in-dash installation. We plan on making these, but really, it would be a lot nicer to have it come with. Right now, they just fall out of the bottom of the dash like an afterthought.
Additionally, we negated to install the microphone. Most times people can hear you fine. If not, you have to re-boot the system. You also have to reboot when it wont pause music when a call comes in, or lower sound when the rear camera activates.
-Side note about that pause... most sub $30 bluetooth adapters resume your media when you start the vehicle back up. not this one.. you got to hush the FM software, navigate back to your music (Amazon music in our case) and then hit play. Since there is no play button on the factory remote, its a real pain in the backside. Not well thought out Atoto. -
Reverse cam is basic, we bought the matching ATOTO one and the quality is garbage. Looking for a better unit now. Nice that it just lowers the music while backing up, and doesn't cut out though.
I haven't tried to install a better home screen or layout in this unit. It would help to have a bit more open framework. The colors and designs are bland and garish at the same time (congrats on that hot mess Atoto) with no support for changing them.
The best looking interface and use so far has been Torque, which we have the pro version of, and has been useful to see a few tuning parameters as well as info for towing. We bought a generic ODB2 dongle and it works fine. The downside is the built in browser for looking up a trouble code that came from blowing out our dash lighting during install (dumb grounding mistake, should have known better and pulled the battery leads. ) No support for acceleration sensors though, seems the A6 does not have them. So if you want this for your autocross car, maybe skip it and just use a used Samsung Tab or something.
Im going to look into re-flashing the headunit after we button up the install with a better ROM, better apps, and hope I can find a good dashcam utility that works for this. CarWebGuru works at first, but then on re-boot will disable all sound, cameras, and the remote if left as the launcher. If not, it still works, but is kindof redundant.
overall, its a project. Take a full day to get it all installed, maybe longer to dial it in right.
Overall, so far, we spent a total of $368.17, and will be spending at least another $80 on this unit. I guess that is the name of the game when you want to do things right, and not spend $800+ on a turnkey system.
I also discovered that Prey security will install, but not open on this unit. Thought it would be nice to have a bit of additional theft protection int eh truck and the ability to track it if it did get stolen.
. I recently bought the a6 and had to learn the hard way also. I'm installing in a 13 Dodge Durango.
Majority of the extra cost would come with any new aftermarket unit since newer vehicles need to communicate with the can us system. I went in also thinking I could buy the cheap harness and be good to go. Majority of the Chinese headunits are made for international vehicles. . Most are plug and play.
I got on lightning deal for $200 and so far about $100 in parts. But I expect this with any aftermarket radio I install. Days of cheap harness and dash kit are over.
But anything is worth the cost vs my stock radio.
Just like any Chinese product(coming from Android TV boxes) they take a lot of tinkering but that comes with the cheap price. I plan on 8nstalling one of the car launchers and replacing every non essetnial app.
Power amp or gmmp for music. So with my limited testing, I've had a good experience. I'm within 20ft of my router at home so speeds been great. Bluetooth has been Rock solid also with media.
Will post more on Sunday when I complete the install.
Right on. I didnt have the cash to buy one from some place thats worked out more bugs. I have industry friends that sell a unit that retails at $800, adn I could get it wholesale, but thats still a chunk more cash than I had.
Got my wifi a bit better sorted this afternoon by putting a repeater out in my little tool shed, and finally have 75% of the tomtomgo USA map downloaded. This unit nor that app are good at downloading. I also noticed something about Car Web Guru on startup... if the factory launcher does not have default access, not only will certain things stop working (cameras, sound, USB), but it screws with the clock, which then throws off other apps that use the clock as part of any sort of key. Amazon does this with offline music, which I have a lot of on here.
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Right on. I didnt have the cash to buy one from some place thats worked out more bugs. I have industry friends that sell a unit that retails at $800, adn I could get it wholesale, but thats still a chunk more cash than I had.
Got my wifi a bit better sorted this afternoon by putting a repeater out in my little tool shed, and finally have 75% of the tomtomgo USA map downloaded. This unit nor that app are good at downloading. I also noticed something about Car Web Guru on startup... if the factory launcher does not have default access, not only will certain things stop working (cameras, sound, USB), but it screws with the clock, which then throws off other apps that use the clock as part of any sort of key. Amazon does this with offline music, which I have a lot of on here.
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I don't believe these stereos are any different from one another. I've read about changing launchers breaking things. Luckily I believe there is a fix out there.
Probably try emailing them for possible fix..
I still need the steering wheel module but thats something I'll do in future upgrade
intruda119 said:
I don't believe these stereos are any different from one another. I've read about changing launchers breaking things. Luckily I believe there is a fix out there.
Probably try emailing them for possible fix..
I still need the steering wheel module but thats something I'll do in future upgrade
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I have emailed them, but the language barrier is strong here. Talked about changing the launcher, and they told me it is not possible, but I am willing to try more now that I have a few more tools at hand.
Just curious, if your vehicle doesn't have a 12v acc, is there a 12v power outlet /cig lighter (or anything else) that is controlled by the key. You could use any 12v that is controlled by the key and tie it the unit acc.
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Just curious, if your vehicle doesn't have a 12v acc, is there a 12v power outlet /cig lighter (or anything else) that is controlled by the key. You could use any 12v that is controlled by the key and tie it the unit acc.
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What vehicle do you have?
If nothing is there under the radio dash, you can tap into the fuse box.
Wont work. 12v+ ACC is controlled by the bus. With the key off, the cigar lighter ports are still charged with 8-10v, which the unit sees as an on trigger.
In order to get around this, you need a canbus controller, which is available from a few companies.
intruda119 said:
What vehicle do you have?
If nothing is there under the radio dash, you can tap into the fuse box.
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I agree, fuse box would be your best bet. Aside from just the key switch, you could probably find a delayed off or open door off. If not, you just need to find a circuit activated by the key, could be any voltage made or ground made. Relays are cheap.
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I agree, fuse box would be your best bet. Aside from just the key switch, you could probably find a delayed off or open door off. If not, you just need to find a circuit activated by the key, could be any voltage made or ground made. Relays are cheap.
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Yeah need to know what type of vehicle it is.
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Any body get Waze working?
Unit can't find position/gps
Why would I do that in this truck with a relay and aux fuse panel, when I can control th dimming and ACC on via the canbus and an appropriate interface? Ive dealt with a lot of vehicle electronics (its part of my job) and going around a proven modern system with a bunch of jankey wiring just looks bad, especially in this case where it isnt needed.
In our Jeep Cherokee, maybe, but that also has things liek additional trailer wiring and radio equipment going in, as well as separate harnesses for the lighting to overcome stock deficiencies, but the Ram is pretty solid. Atoto says they have a built in canbus interface coming, just not there yet.
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Why would I do that in this truck with a relay and aux fuse panel, when I can control th dimming and ACC on via the canbus and an appropriate interface? Ive dealt with a lot of vehicle electronics (its part of my job) and going around a proven modern system with a bunch of jankey wiring just looks bad, especially in this case where it isnt needed.
In our Jeep Cherokee, maybe, but that also has things liek additional trailer wiring and radio equipment going in, as well as separate harnesses for the lighting to overcome stock deficiencies, but the Ram is pretty solid. Atoto says they have a built in canbus interface coming, just not there yet.
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Yeah why would you do that?
Our last few post was towards the guy asking about it. We can only assume he has an older vehicle.
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Yeah why would you do that?
Our last few post was towards the guy asking about it. We can only assume he has an older vehicle.
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Ah, my bad. Yeah, if you have an older vehicle, you could do a relay setup for ACC, but normally thats just a stop on the key, at least back to the 70s.
My thoughts.
Built in amp is 10x better than the stock one.
Very little lag when operating the unit. Lags a bit when streaming and downloading at same time.
Plays all types of media.
Screen is great. Easily used with sunlight shining through(sun roof)
Dims at night time correctly.
2sec boot is amazing.
Presistent app permissions notification drives me nuts.
App installs take forever(download is fast as the connection)
3ven thought 99% of time I'm listening to Google play or off HDD would be nice to limit volume when turning on car when fm radio auto starts.
Everything outside of my noobnesw and lots of user error has been plug and play. What's taking me 2 weeks so far would probably take experienced person 1hr or less.
I took apart the unit and can't understand why these units are bigger than name brand headunits. There is nothing in them but space.
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The screen is very nice. Boot time is more like time to pop the screen on, like when you hit the power button on your phone after its been in your pocket on standy. The real boot time takes forever (why is this microwave so slow!!!!1)
Mine keeps having issues with SD cards. have had it randomly say its corrupted, pull it out, reinsert, and all good. Just odd I think . And I finally found a good GPS app for this one, since it has enough space, the TomTom app is perfect. At least for my uses, even with having to pay for a month when using it for longer distances.
My biggest issue other than the few mentioned already in this thread, is the lack of speaker settings. There isn't enough options for speaker fine tuning, and as a result I can't get my speakers to sound good at all without massive distortion and clipping. Anyone know if there's a solution for this?
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My biggest issue other than the few mentioned already in this thread, is the lack of speaker settings. There isn't enough options for speaker fine tuning, and as a result I can't get my speakers to sound good at all without massive distortion and clipping. Anyone know if there's a solution for this?
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Best I can think of would be through a different amplifier than the built in one. Best luck I have had is with the "natural" setting. Its all software based, I found that it stops working and needs rebooted to get the profile back. Im betting thats a driver issue, and one we wont see updated in the A6.
You guys do know the trick about hitting BACK when the FM tuner comes up, then selecting the Atoto AUX and hitting HOME (leaving it in memory) to prevent the auto-start of FM and getting blasted out of the cab, right?
With the AUX trick, CarWebGuru (or other launchers) will autostart just fine. Every now and then (especially after a long power-off, like a day or two) you might have to repeat the trick, and more often, you'll need to manually start AUX if things like steering wheel controls or the Atoto equalizer isn't working after a restart (Aux or FM will force a restart of the MCU hardware).
Hi everyone,
Due to the lack of (and dispersed) information about these particular head units, here's a thread where we can discuss and help each other out to make the most of these units. Please note this thread is not for Sofia or MCDB/C/D/E units, there are ample threads about those. I am not a full-time software developer, so please do correct me if you think I'm wrong about something. Please do think twice before experimenting on your unit, no one else is responsible for it but yourself. I'm also dying for a custom ROM, if there's any dev making one for these, please know I'm availing my unit for experimentation. It is a powerful Unit which unfortunately is plagued by software problems which is why I believe a dev can make a better job than the manufacturer.
Also, special thanks to @surfer63 for his Joying Extra Tools (JET apk) which has been a critical tool for rooting, among other things.
I will be taking the unit out of the car and opening it up to install a heat sink and take some pictures of the insides, let me know if anyone's interested in close-ups of anything on the board.
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The unit was advertised as compatible with BMW X5 and E39 (5series 1996-2001). My car is a 1997 520i with the low-end dashboard so that's the context I'll be speaking in. The unit shipped complete with adapter cables which connect to the original connectors for the radio, magnetic GPS antenna, external mic (more on the internal mic later), 2 USB ports which are permanently attached to the unit (as well as an sd card slot), a couple of flimsy brackets which screw in place of the original radio holder. However 2 screws which attach the unit to the brackets were not provided and i had to rummage around until i found 2 screws that fit. Unfortunately the original radio antenna cable on the car doesn't fit the unit, however the bundle of cables has an antenna plug with it, it's just a matter of replacing it (someday, as I don't really use radio at all).
The Unit is reporting to have an ARM64-v8a architecture and an rk30sdk board, 4GB RAM as well as 32GB of internal storage. External storage is detected almost immediately as well and I had no problems with files stored on a pendrive. The CPU tends to run hot, occasionally going beyond 80degrees Celcius, I therefore have a small fan and heatsink ordered which I will try to squeeze into the single-DIN box. Worth mentioning it has buttons and a knob on either side of the screen which are backlit and positively responsive. Regarding the in-built microphone, it "works" in theory, ie. it hears you if you tap on it, but it doesn't hear my voice even with the engine idling, let alone cruising down the autobahn. Fortunately it comes with an external mic, I'll hook it up when I pull it out for the fan job.
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This is the latest ROM & MCU update from the manufacturer:
Android Version: 8.0.0
Build number: px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.bsp.20181107.190240 test-keys
System info: APP 1024x600 2018-11-23 08:48:14
MCU Version: 2018-11-23 16:12:28 JY_(R68*)__26_C26_CAN(All)
BT Version: BLINK_8723DS_RELEASE/2018:10:08:17:05:26
DigitalAmp Version: Unknown
CAN Version: Unknown
Serial Number: 00000000
I'm not going to give the Wifi Mac address for obvious reasons.
Cold boots are pretty quick, it's usually done in half a minute. It has a rudimentary "recovery" mode which is achieved by pressing the reset button with a needle 3 times, and after a pause, a countdown is shown under the boot logo, at which point one has to insert the SD card into the right hand slot. If it identifies the ROM on the SD card as equivalent or better, it starts flashing. If it doesn't recognise it, it does apparently nothing and leaves you with a black screen until you remove the SD card and boot it up again.
I have on several occasions attempted to flash TWRP recovery image as well on the unit, with no success.
Description of operation & issues:
Ever since the latest ROM Update, I've been having issues with the WiFi: despite the dozen wifi hotspots around the neighbourhood including my phone and home wifi, the unit doesn't "see" any until I completely reboot it.
The ROM provided by the manufacturer doesn't have a proper bluetooth menu. Despite being equipped with Bluetooth 4.0, as it stands for now, there is no proper bluetooth menu like you get on your phone/tablet/etc... a bluetooth app shortcut does open this menu but the menu doesn't offer any options or work at all except for the on/off toggle.
The CPU runs hot, it is a well known issue and I'm intending to install a heat sink and fan on it.
Several other settings menu items usually found on phones are also missing.
There buttons of course are lit up but the colour options are just 7. There is no way to choose your own colour and I don't know of any app that can do it on this particular model.
So I've opened up the unit and took some pictures before i stuck on a few small heatsinks on the FYT6026 bigger metal heatsink as well as a small fan. I've not taken pictures of what I've done, but you can all suppose how it's set up. It's pretty easy. I've got more closeups of the board for whoever wants to see them, just ask.
Hey @surfer63 or @gtxaspec @xxRaiyanxxYT do you know what the connector circled in red (4 pins) is for? It was not connected to anything in my unit. The other 2 are USB (5 pins) and the one on top (2pins) is microphone.
Sorry didnt upload for some reason.
Kyle M. said:
Sorry didnt upload for some reason.
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Connect those Plugs Red, Green and Blue
Wondering that myself... Could it be power for a fan?
I have the same unused plug in mine.
Any info would be appreciated
Cheers,
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Connect those Plugs Red, Green and Blue
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What? No you didn't understand. I disconnected the plugs before i took the picture to get a clearer view of the board. The 2 plugs in the Blue circle are both for USB cables that go out from behind the unit, and the green one is for the external microphone which I also use. The one I don't know about is the one in the red circle. it was not connected to anything when I opened the unit and I'd like to know what it might be useful for.
Junior_1967 said:
I have the same unused plug in mine.
Any info would be appreciated
Cheers,
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I was thinking the same thing, I was going to hook the fan up to them but I needed to measure the voltages across those pins and my car is downstairs in the basement and I don't have a proper kit to power the it up on the bench. I would've made one but I was in a hurry yesterday. I need a whole day to mess around with it properly and find out what each part does but right now I'm working through the weekends until the end of the year. Until I get some time like that, I'm trying to gather some more info about it so I won't take it out for nothing (it's a ***** to install this unit back in the car).
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I was thinking the same thing, I was going to hook the fan up to them but I needed to measure the voltages across those pins and my car is downstairs in the basement and I don't have a proper kit to power the it up on the bench. I would've made one but I was in a hurry yesterday. I need a whole day to mess around with it properly and find out what each part does but right now I'm working through the weekends until the end of the year. Until I get some time like that, I'm trying to gather some more info about it so I won't take it out for nothing (it's a ***** to install this unit back in the car).
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I will see what I can do.. Running my unit on the bench right now with a CPU power supply...
Might be able to test it tonight.. If not it will go to this weekend I'm afraid..
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I will see what I can do.. Running my unit on the bench right now with a CPU power supply...
Might be able to test it tonight.. If not it will go to this weekend I'm afraid..
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Good stuff, that'd be great, thanks! Which unit have you got? (specs) And have you managed to change the bootloader or flash a custom rom on it? Feel free to share pics of the motherboard.
Kyle M. said:
Good stuff, that'd be great, thanks! Which unit have you got? (specs) And have you managed to change the bootloader or flash a custom rom on it? Feel free to share pics of the motherboard.
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I have the JY-HOS01P4
8.8" 4GB/32GB
No Hardware button at all. Not reset hole.. nada (Will make it easier to weatherproof.. )
Will at some point put a heatsink on it.. But being single DIN the room is limited...
So far I have only have it rooted and JET installed on it.
I do not think I will mess with the bootloader/custom ROM as it does pretty much what I want out of the box.
Testing different software now.
And the unit will be installed in my HD Roadglide.
So basically the sound output will be 2 fold:
Speakers driven by an external AMP so I can shut of sound by turn the amp off thru the settings
Bluetooth comms headset connected to a bluetooth transmitter taking it's input from RCA jacks
My requirements are the following:
Launcher: CarWebGuru
Radio -> will use stock app
MP3 -> Still testing players but for now I'm happy with google play music
GPS -> Osmand+ with data on SD card
Phone-> Android Auto + Headunit Reloaded (will finish testing and probably will buy.. Do not link ZLink.. even thought it works sort of ok) At this point I'm able to dial/see the phone on the radio and hear/talk with my BT headset
That is pretty much it.. Might attempt to put a DVR at some point...
I'll take a pic tonight of the board but aside from the location of that big capacitor (Mine is beside the wall of the radio) it is pretty much the same as yours.
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I have the JY-HOS01P4
8.8" 4GB/32GB
No Hardware button at all. Not reset hole.. nada (Will make it easier to weatherproof.. )
Will at some point put a heatsink on it.. But being single DIN the room is limited...
So far I have only have it rooted and JET installed on it.
I do not think I will mess with the bootloader/custom ROM as it does pretty much what I want out of the box.
Testing different software now.
And the unit will be installed in my HD Roadglide.
So basically the sound output will be 2 fold:
Speakers driven by an external AMP so I can shut of sound by turn the amp off thru the settings
Bluetooth comms headset connected to a bluetooth transmitter taking it's input from RCA jacks
My requirements are the following:
Launcher: CarWebGuru
Radio -> will use stock app
MP3 -> Still testing players but for now I'm happy with google play music
GPS -> Osmand+ with data on SD card
Phone-> Android Auto + Headunit Reloaded (will finish testing and probably will buy.. Do not link ZLink.. even thought it works sort of ok) At this point I'm able to dial/see the phone on the radio and hear/talk with my BT headset
That is pretty much it.. Might attempt to put a DVR at some point...
I'll take a pic tonight of the board but aside from the location of that big capacitor (Mine is beside the wall of the radio) it is pretty much the same as yours.
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Ah I see, so what they're doing is basically hooking up a different screen to the same single-din box. Have you had any issues with the wifi since the last update?
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Ah I see, so what they're doing is basically hooking up a different screen to the same single-din box. Have you had any issues with the wifi since the last update?
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I have not seen any issues.. Mind you I only have an internal network.. Still waiting for internet to be installed ^%@%#
I had to hotspot my phone for connectivity when needed but it is chewing my data!!!
I did all my downloads from work and brought the files/apk home to install.
What kind of issues are you seeing?
Which version of the latest do you have? the first 2018-11-7 or the 2nd 2018-11?
(I hate how the have they same file name.. Joying is pretty bad naming stuff...)
Hi,
I tested the header last night and got nothing. 0 power
Now, I have not had the time to play with the settings in the radio so I do not know if something would turn that on.
Cheers,
haven't tested it myself, but from my memory this red-circled connector has something to do with audio (either Ins or Outs).
Here is the picture of the inside of the single DIN unit
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dnf4p64l5a1gizc/20181212_202622.jpg?dl=0
Cheers
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Which version of the latest do you have? the first 2018-11-7 or the 2nd 2018-11?
(I hate how the have they same file name.. Joying is pretty bad naming stuff...)
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I didn't realise they published the 2018-11. I downloaded the previous update, 2018-11-7. I think they published the second one after the first november update gave us issues and somehow forgot to put the full date on it. I'll try flashing that update at some point and see what happens.
The Audio on my Note 9 is no longer working.
The head phone jack is dead. Both the Mic and both the top and bottom speakers are dead.
I have given it to Samsung asking them to fix it. But if they do not fix it. I plan to fix it myself.
I have narrowed it down to two possible ICs. One is the
max 9845 https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX9812-MAX9813L.pdf
the other the
WM8960 https://www.cirrus.com/products/wm8960/
The problem started after the update to the latest version. First it started to heat up more than normal. Then it took really long to work. Then audio started to get sketchy and finally audio died.
The fun bit if I screen cast. I get audio. If I use blue tooth head set I get audio.
But I cant answer phone calls using my Bluetooth which I could do earlier.
Spent a few days going thru the logs on the phone using ADB the only thing I saw was could not open /dev/snd/
Which makes me think its the 98512 IC.
Any help appreciated. If Im lucky Samsung will agree with me that a Flag Ship phone that costs 1000$ should last for at least 2 Years. And they fix it. Else I have to order the IC and fix it myself.
Ps: There is one more possible IC that may be needed it is the CS47L93 audio IC.
I found this info in the service manual i got via XDA.
So its now down to 3 chips. CS47L93 audio IC or Max98512 or WM8960
Could really do with some help here.