Here's an interesting article on the N1's display. Found it rather surprising!
http://gizmodo.com/5477320/the-nexus-ones-dirty-display-secret
yeah, eh... im not too worried about that. i think the N1 screen looks great and i never noticed any problems like that so i don t really mind
what a fake, if you look at that article with the nexus one, you can see the iphone photo perfectly
I would agree. Granted, they do show in those examples (if true) that the iPhone has the edge on number of colours, but I've not yet notices that, so I'm not going to worry
nenco said:
what a fake, if you look at that article with the nexus one, you can see the iphone photo perfectly
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Ha ha, really? Someone make the image as an 800x480 jpg and we can test ourselves
well
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/154221main_20060807_PIA07997_060802183716.jpg
Here you go, try for yourself. I have to say the pic looks better on my old 2g iphone
noticed this when i transfered some files from my canon g11, flash pictures against a white wall gave just the bad result as the nasa-picture in the gizmodo article... too bad really, but doesn't mean too much in daily use for me
The photo of Mars sunset is a total red herring.
The issue is the gallery app, NOT the display.
Google Mars "sunset", open an image, and you'll see no banding. Save the image then view it in the gallery app, and the banding will suddenly appear.
yeah indeed
looks like the gallary is doing some kind of bad compression on the picture
Raymond77 said:
The photo of Mars sunset is a total red herring.
The issue is the gallery app, NOT the display.
Google Mars "sunset", open an image, and you'll see no banding. Save the image then view it in the gallery app, and the banding will suddenly appear.
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when I went to the mars sunset link in this thread, via the browser, there was tons of banding, so I don't see how it's a gallery issue.
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when I went to the mars sunset link in this thread, via the browser, there was tons of banding, so I don't see how it's a gallery issue.
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I can't see much banding at all in the browser, this pic is the one I used for reference., certainly not what was shown on the Gizmodo site.
Saving it then viewing it in the gallery was a whole other kettle of fish, and THAT is what I'd equate to the image on Gizmodo.
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I can't see much banding at all in the browser, this pic is the one I used for reference., certainly not what was shown on the Gizmodo site.
Saving it then viewing it in the gallery was a whole other kettle of fish, and THAT is what I'd equate to the image on Gizmodo.
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try http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/154221main_20060807_PIA07997_060802183716.jpg and let me know if you get banding
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I loaded the image in my browser on CM5 and there's a million bands. However, if you scroll around the picture, while you're scrolling it's beautiful. Only when the image isn't moving or zooming do the bands appear for me.
It looks like a bug more than anything else.
Okay, so I've just tried the one posted earlier in the thread, and yes there is banding, a lot of it, however if I touch the screen for a second it goes away and "drag" the screen down or up, then comes back when I remove my finger from the screen.
I still think this is software related, the image is so damn large that it must be being scaled down to be viewable, and maybe there's a compression issue there.
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when I went to the mars sunset link in this thread, via the browser, there was tons of banding, so I don't see how it's a gallery issue.
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I did too.. UNTIL..I put my finger on it like I was going to scroll it around or pinch to zoom...then the banding went away. So, the problem is NOT the display but the software.
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I loaded the image in my browser on CM5 and there's a million bands. However, if you scroll around the picture, while you're scrolling it's beautiful. Only when the image isn't moving or zooming do the bands appear for me.
It looks like a bug more than anything else.
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Same here.
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try .... and let me know if you get banding
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True, but try to move the picture, or just touch the screen
When I use the image from post #6, I see the banding. If I use this image:
http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/7fc13f2a01438c144c13596ef3adaca2/MARS-ROVER.jpg
Which is at 800x616 pixels, I don't see the banding. That tells me its the scaling algorithm in the OS, app or GL library thats causing the stepped gradient, not the AMOLED display itself.
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When I use the image from post #6, I see the banding. If I use this image:
http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/7fc13f2a01438c144c13596ef3adaca2/MARS-ROVER.jpg
Which is at 800x616 pixels, I don't see the banding. That tells me its the scaling algorithm in the OS, app or GL library thats causing the stepped gradient, not the AMOLED display itself.
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this is more along the lines of what I was thinking. I thought maybe since the picture was being scaled down so much it was causing the banding. I love my N1 and the display is so nice that I can't even look at my G1 the same anymore.
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The stock gallery app on the Nexus One is HORRIBLE. Flashy, shiny, touchy, yes. But all of my photos are incredibly compressed and zooming in results in a massive JPG compression artifact fest.
I wrote a bunch of notes on a whiteboard and my friend with a Droid and I both took photos of it to keep a record with our phones, but to my horror, the notes were COMPLETELY unreadable on my phone: all of the detail was gone, even though the camera preview after I took the shot looked fine zoomed in.
The Droid does not have this problem in its gallery app.
I found another Gallery app meant for the Droid on the market and it does not have this issue. The photos I took were fine, it was the gallery app loading a piss poor quality version of the photo.
Does Google know their gallery app sucks? Do they just not care? It makes it seem like the Nexus One takes godawful pictures when really the pictures are just fine!
Yep.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021
This also extends to setting wallpapers from the gallery app, which explains why every wallpaper from my camera looks like ass.
If you set wallpapers using "wallpaper set and save" from the market, your wallpapers are WAY, WAY higher quality.
So I guess my question is, how do we make sure Google knows about this bug?
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Yep.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021
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Thanks for the link. I encourage everyone to vote for and comment on this issue so Google takes notice.
Make sure you "star" the issue to prioritize it for google. Dont add a comment unless you have something new to contribute, everyone who is subscribed will be an email)
To do this click on the white star below "New issue" on the top left. (its hard to notice)
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This also extends to setting wallpapers from the gallery app, which explains why every wallpaper from my camera looks like ass.
If you set wallpapers using "wallpaper set and save" from the market, your wallpapers are WAY, WAY higher quality.
So I guess my question is, how do we make sure Google knows about this bug?
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what do you mean by wallpaper set and save?
how to do that?
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what do you mean by wallpaper set and save?
how to do that?
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It is an app that's on the market.
Only 34 stars :/
Accidentally hit volume down, you now realize the Fascinate has a Digital Zoom.
Mind blown.
Also you're welcome.
DigitalDementia said:
Accidentally hit volume down, you now realize the Fascinate has a Digital Zoom.
Mind blown.
Also you're welcome.
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Lol!
Wow. I dident know that
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Isn't it amazing what you can find out by reading a manual?
(page 79)
And yes, I realize the Fascinate didn't ship with a manual, but it is readily available
Digital zooms are awful...
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Use it, then take a picture it looks fuzzy on screen but the actual photo comes out quite nicely.
Kevin Gossett said:
Isn't it amazing what you can find out by reading a manual?
(page 79)
And yes, I realize the Fascinate didn't ship with a manual, but it is readily available
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Sorry but manuals are filled with mostly garbage. I prefer to figure things out on my own, actually I knew about this the first day I had it. If I can't figure out a device on my own, I feel like I shouldn't be using it. Unless it's something like photoshop, that I read manuals on heh...
thx, never knew that
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Figured that out at a jazz game LOL. We also have macro mode for close up pictures
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This post got me thinking... has anyone figured out the proper settings to get this phone to take decent pictures? I feel like my old blackberry took better pictures.
fifreak said:
This post got me thinking... has anyone figured out the proper settings to get this phone to take decent pictures? I feel like my old blackberry took better pictures.
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You must be blind.
The image review on the phone does not look that nice, but look at it on a computer and they look great.
Also, an app called Reduce Photo Size works very nicely for cropping images - not as convenient as digital zoom in every case, but indispensable for an image you want up in a hurry (easy crop, fast ui, and much smaller file size without artifacting issues).
Also auto desk sketch book is very cool for quick edits.
There is a timer hidden in the stock camera menus too... Took me a while to find it!
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
Maybe I should clarify... whenever the Fascinate tries to use the flash, everything is always completely washed out because the flash is so bright. I havent had much luck taking pictures at night or even in a somewhat low light situation. What flash setting are people using? (On, Auto, Off)
Just fyi, the zoom function works while shooting video too, though it's a bit odd watching it as it's so abrupt, unlike a real video camera that smoothly zooms in and out.
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fifreak said:
Maybe I should clarify... whenever the Fascinate tries to use the flash, everything is always completely washed out because the flash is so bright. I havent had much luck taking pictures at night or even in a somewhat low light situation. What flash setting are people using? (On, Auto, Off)
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My photos come out crisp and clean, even when using flash, there may be a problem with your camera if it's washed out. Can you upload a picture so we can review what you're talking about? A description is never as good as a picture
DigitalDementia said:
My photos come out crisp and clean, even when using flash, there may be a problem with your camera if it's washed out. Can you upload a picture so we can review what you're talking about? A description is never as good as a picture
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Posting pics of your penis are prohibited on this board.
Here you can see a picture taken in low light with flash and it is just totally wiped out (burger)
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Here is a picture during the day with no flash and you can see it looks nice and crisp (veggies)
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Here is another one done during the day but inside so there was lower light. I was holding the camera still and the dog wasnt moving much yet it still looks blurry and washed out.
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Here you can see a picture taken in low light with flash and it is just totally wiped out (burger)
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Here is a picture during the day with no flash and you can see it looks nice and crisp (veggies)
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Here is another one done during the day but inside so there was lower light. I was holding the camera still and the dog wasnt moving much yet it still looks blurry and washed out.
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I second your observations, however I still find these results better than my Droid was so I'm content to live with it.
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hello,
i love my tab but one issue has been bothering me.
in both gallery and in browser, picture quality is sub par.
even when i'm viewing a high quality jpeg from dslr camera, colors are saturated and the whole picture is pixelated especially when zoomed.
anyone else noticing this issue?
thank you!
gibumee said:
hello,
i love my tab but one issue has been bothering me.
in both gallery and in browser, picture quality is sub par.
even when i'm viewing a high quality jpeg from dslr camera, colors are saturated and the whole picture is pixelated especially when zoomed.
anyone else noticing this issue?
thank you!
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is this because android 2.2 isn't designed for GT's screen size?
if anyone has any ideas or can referred me to a previous post that discusses this, i'll greatly appreciated it.
why don't you change the display: white, black and saturation balance on the display settings and also remove the check box from the "save power mode" ??...
adolfotregosa said:
why don't you change the display: white, black and saturation balance on the display settings and also remove the check box from the "save power mode" ??...
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Thank you, I didn't think to look there. That definately helps with the saturation issue.
However, all my images are displayed pixelated, especially when they are zoomed. Images are 18 megapixel jpegs and should be crisp on most displays. Same image looks better on my Blackberry!
gibumee said:
Thank you, I didn't think to look there. That definately helps with the saturation issue.
However, all my images are displayed pixelated, especially when they are zoomed. Images are 18 megapixel jpegs and should be crisp on most displays. Same image looks better on my Blackberry!
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Isn't your Blackberry going to have much smaller pixels anyway?
Regards,
Dave
gibumee said:
Thank you, I didn't think to look there. That definately helps with the saturation issue.
However, all my images are displayed pixelated, especially when they are zoomed. Images are 18 megapixel jpegs and should be crisp on most displays. Same image looks better on my Blackberry!
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Don't use the built in gallery: it's horrible (well, just bad actually) for anything at a resolution different from the Tab's screen. Try something like QuickPic from the market, while it's slow, shows the images properly. Or if it's possible (i don't know) install the stadard Android gallery.
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Or try Image Viewer from the Market. It's very fast and renders in high quality.
Great!
Thank you so much guys, 3rd party image viewers seem to be the solution.
So yesterday I email myself a few pics of my car I had on my I pad. When I check them out I notice they are low on detail. I was thinking what the heck higher Res and less detail? I compared the same pic on the ipad and instantly notice the difference. Thinking its impossible I jump into the market and look for another photoviewer and low and behold it displays all that missing detail. I started comparing all my pics on the zoom in both apps on my device (for reference I downloaded viewpic basically it was the first free app I found).
Anyone else notice this? Looks like the stock gallary app is helping to hurt the first impression of the screen and camera when checking out pics. Thankfully it ain't a hardware thing.
Until Google fixes the stock viewer, here is a solution that works for me.
arrtoodeetoo said:
Q: Photos in the stock viewer are blurred when scaled to fit the screen. How do I view my DLSR pics and other high quality photos without the blur?
A: Download QuickPic from the market (free). It's a photo viewer that scales correctly without garbling photos.
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Yep, I have noticed the same, and my Vibrant had the same issue with it's gallery App when it first came out, it was eventually fixed.
As we know, the Google Camera App had some user interface changes recently (as noted here), but I can't say that these changes helped to improve the user experience as much as one simple change could:
Take the portrait mode from the options menu and make it a single toggle on the main camera screen. Now that the grid icon has been removed, the new portrait mode toggle could be applied without adding too much clutter. Do you guys agree and if so, why do you think Google hasn't implemented this seemingly obvious change?
PuffDaddy_d said:
As we know, the Google Camera App had some user interface changes recently (as noted here), but I can't say that these changes helped to improve the user experience as much as one simple change could:
Take the portrait mode from the options menu and make it a single toggle on the main camera screen. Now that the grid icon has been removed, the new portrait mode toggle could be applied without adding too much clutter. Do you guys agree and if so, why do you think Google hasn't implemented this seemingly obvious change?
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I'd agree with this. I'd also like to see a 4:3/16:9 toggle, as there are times I'd like to take a full shot that could be used as a wallpaper (for the phone or PC)
cd993 said:
I'd agree with this. I'd also like to see a 4:3/16:9 toggle, as there are times I'd like to take a full shot that could be used as a wallpaper (for the phone or PC)
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That's a great idea! Landscape photos really benefit from the wider format.
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That's a great idea! Landscape photos really benefit from the wider format.
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Definitely - I like (and would love a toggle) to be able to view a shot and decide whether this should be a 4:4 or 16:9 as indeed some photos definitely benefit from the wider viewing
I sent this feedback to Google via the feedback option within the camera - let's see if anything changes!
cd993 said:
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Definitely - I like (and would love a toggle) to be able to view a shot and decide whether this should be a 4:4 or 16:9 as indeed some photos definitely benefit from the wider viewing
I sent this feedback to Google via the feedback option within the camera - let's see if anything changes!
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I wonder if anyone truly reviews each of these feedback requests?
PuffDaddy_d said:
I wonder if anyone truly reviews each of these feedback requests?
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One can dream....
And hell if we see such changes in an upcoming release then our work here is done!
cd993 said:
One can dream....
And hell if we see such changes in an upcoming release then our work here is done!
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Our work will never be done bro! By the time they fix stuff, some shave tail engineer will come up with something they deem as great, and jack something else up for the talented XDA masters to fix! The cycle will continue! ???
Badger50 said:
Our work will never be done bro! By the time they fix stuff, some shave tail engineer will come up with something they deem as great, and jack something else up for the talented XDA masters to fix! The cycle will continue! ???
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Ahaha the never ending cycle that we expose ourselves to! Before we know it the next latest and greatest device will be out and we'll be on that haha
cd993 said:
Ahaha the never ending cycle that we expose ourselves to! Before we know it the next latest and greatest device will be out and we'll be on that haha
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I'll be right there with ya bruh! ??
cd993 said:
I'd agree with this. I'd also like to see a 4:3/16:9 toggle, as there are times I'd like to take a full shot that could be used as a wallpaper (for the phone or PC)
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What's so difficult about cropping your 4:3 to 16:9?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
What's so difficult about cropping your 4:3 to 16:9?
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Absolutely nothing difficult in cropping a picture after I've taken it. I just prefer to take a shot right first time. So the majority of shots I'll take a 4:3 but every now and then I'll fancy a 16:9 (if I perhaps intend for a computer wallpaper or it's a wider shot like a group photo or wider scenario pic). So for such reasons, a quick toggle for me would benefit
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Absolutely nothing difficult in cropping a picture after I've taken it. I just prefer to take a shot right first time. So the majority of shots I'll take a 4:3 but every now and then I'll fancy a 16:9 (if I perhaps intend for a computer wallpaper or it's a wider shot like a group photo or wider scenario pic). So for such reasons, a quick toggle for me would benefit
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But if you take the 4:3 shot first, you could crop to 16:9 anyway you choose instead of being stuck with a 16:9 right from the start. That's even better than shooting 16:9 to begin with.
Just my opinion tho.
Also, if you just take the 4:3, you could have one of each.
Doesn't work the other way around.
What's wrong with using the 16:9 in the settings for a wallpaper?
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But if you take the 4:3 shot first, you could crop to 16:9 anyway you choose instead of being stuck with a 16:9 right from the start. That's even better than shooting 16:9 to begin with.
Just my opinion tho.
Also, if you just take the 4:3, you could have one of each.
Doesn't work the other way around.
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That is a fair point. I guess I'm just used to having it on a previous phone (Samsung s8 I think), having a quick toggle, and found it to be useful
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What's wrong with using the 16:9 in the settings for a wallpaper?
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There's nothing wrong with it. But just like portrait mode, since would like for it to be a quick toggle from the main screen. It's easier and faster than digging through menus.
cd993 said:
That is a fair point. I guess I'm just used to having it on a previous phone (Samsung s8 I think), having a quick toggle, and found it to be useful
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richii0207 said:
What's wrong with using the 16:9 in the settings for a wallpaper?
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All that option is doing is cropping. You can do that after any full 12MP photo. I'd rather take full resolution photos and not miss anything then cropping after.
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EeZeEpEe said:
All that option is doing is cropping. You can do that after any full 12MP photo. I'd rather take full resolution photos and not miss anything then cropping after.
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You sir, have opened many eyes! I was under the impression that my method was beneficial but after taking 2 comparison shots you're exactly right. It did always pain me to reduce the resolution to get that "16:9 shot" but your right, it is just cropping a higher resolution photo and indeed I can just crop a 4:3 shot afterwards.
I thank you!
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All that option is doing is cropping. You can do that after any full 12MP photo. I'd rather take full resolution photos and not miss anything then cropping after.
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Setting photos to 4:3 or 16:9/18:9 makes a difference when using the rule of thirds guidelines in the app. So if using rule of thirds, cropping after the fact may ruin the composition. At the same time, rule of thirds isn't an absolute and the quoted advice is generally sound.
I personally like widescreen and frame my shots with it in mind. I lose data, but it saves me a step.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Setting photos to 4:3 or 16:9/18:9 makes a difference when using the rule of thirds guidelines in the app. So if using rule of thirds, cropping after the fact may ruin the composition. At the same time, rule of thirds isn't an absolute and the quoted advice is generally sound.
I personally like widescreen and frame my shots with it in mind. I lose data, but it saves me a step.
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If you're always doing 16:9 photos then okay. I do rule of thirds fine at 4:3 but that's cause I never want a photo to be 16:9. Even if I did, it's cropping top and bottom and I'm usually using rule of thirds on the horizontal plane when in landscape so it wouldn't really affect the shot.
I personally hate the crop especially with video. It's like everything is zoomed. That's why I love using the Sirui wide angle lens. Gives me more in view but 16:9 ratio as seen in the attached.
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