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Vignette Camera Conclusion

Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )

I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.

Lakata said:
i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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I think you may have used the free version...which doesn't support the full resolution of your phone. But I took a few different pictures comparing, I only posted that one comparision, but yeah vignette came out better everytime alot more crisp anyways.

bongd said:
I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...

bongd said:
I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
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I was watching a video on youtube of the droid x camera and features....I wish SE would give us something like that. Pretty slick interface and options....really no need for 3rd party apps. However I do have PicSay Pro...so that gives me everything my heart desires lol.
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I returned to the stock app because vignette is so damn slow and I could not find a way to just take a picture and have it save without having to push 50 buttons.
I won't deny the quality is far superior, but like I said its just stop slow.
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Lakata said:
i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?

Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI

iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

pngface said:
Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
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I've noticed low light shots are a week point to... that's when I break out my actual digital camera tho.... which also happens to be sony lol
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iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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i just removed the shortcut m8 from the screen and in vignette there is a shortcut when u use it to take video and when you press the button u go to video mode to your stock camera app

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
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exactly what i did

I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app

synlar said:
I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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It almost sounds like your doing something wrong. Do you have the paid version?
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine

bazzatron said:
Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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There pretty close, but it almost looks like the X10 default camera has the edge in that pic. Perhaps the X10 default camera is better in lower light photos? I haven't tested that yet.

iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too

rafaperez3d said:
Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
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y exactly ) i was thinking is easy to understand that i only deleted the app from my screen not uninstalling it
and about those 2 pictures with the sunglasses m8... there maybe is not difference in close up pictures coz macro is working fine but try to take pictures from distance and youll see the difference anyway i`m using steady shot for best preformance 8mpx superfine and 16:9 widescreen something u dont have at stock app 8pmx only 4:3 ... sooo there u go aaaa and another thing with vignette u can take picture with a real FLASH ... not with LED light

Post a picture taken with your Focus!!

Ok, I went through the first 8 or 9 pages in the Focus section and never found a thread for this. So, I decided to make one. Pretty much every other phone I owned had a thread for this and it was fun to look at pictures people take to test out there camera.
In less than a full year I have went from an HTC PURE to a HTC MAGIC to a NEXUS ONE to a XPERIA X10 to a SAMSUNG GALAXY S CAPTIVATE and now to my lovely brand new SAMSUNG FOCUS....alot of phone switching I know. But im so happy with my Focus...I think WP7 is pretty damn awesome so far and its a great break from Android (which Im a little bored with).
One of the things I have been VERY impressed with in the Focus is the camera quality. So, hopefully we can keep this thread going and take pictures and post them for other people to see.
Ill start, I only have 1 pic to post for now, but Ill get more for sure. This shot was from work, just the first day after I got my phone so I was testing the camera.
Let the picture posting begin!!!

Taken in my backyard:

naplesbill said:
Taken in my backyard:
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Nice pic man! what camera settings were you using for that?
ps. nice backyard to

I don't really remember exactly. I took a few and I was switching between macro and normal mode. I haven't had to change much in settings to get good pics on this phone. I have messed with macro, white balance most often. I have never used the antishake setting.
I think this camera is pretty good honestly.

My camera takes some great outdoor photos, but it seems to struggle with focus indoors. Anyone else notice that?

Speaking of indoor pictures:
Right before the start of Disney Princesses on Ice, taken with absolutely no skill or changes to any settings. Y'know, just to give an impression about what can be expected normally.

I have had issues with indoor focus a few times. I have also been able to get some really good indoor pictures. Unfortunately, I cannot share those pictures.
I will try to get some for this thread eventually. Here is another outdoor shot from my backyard. For this one, I used Macro mode.

One from the streets of Montreal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthieu/5234826846/sizes/l/in/photostream/

tewmgd said:
One from the streets of Montreal
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthieu/5234826846/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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Nice pic for low lighting man!!! Shows the focus is definetly capable of making those shots good.
ps..I would hate to be paying there power bill lol

naplesbill said:
I have had issues with indoor focus a few times. I have also been able to get some really good indoor pictures. Unfortunately, I cannot share those pictures.
I will try to get some for this thread eventually. Here is another outdoor shot from my backyard. For this one, I used Macro mode.
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Nice macro shot!
Anyone try playing with the sharpness yet? its medium by default, Ive taken a few pictures with it set to max and they seem nicer.

Here's a shot I took at the auto show a few weeks ago. No tweaks applied. Just pulled it out of my pocket and snapped.
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As you can see, I had nothing else to do but take some pictures on the new phone. I rather enjoy it as my wall paper; its a friendly reminder to leave the house a bit earlier to avoid the traffic.
Note,
The when taking the picture, it also saved GPS info such as Altitude, latitude and longitude, nice touch.

Anti-shaking on, Wide Dynamic Range on, and sharpness set to high.

mrdondre said:
Anti-shaking on, Wide Dynamic Range on, and sharpness set to high.
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I like how the background is blurred out....you didn't use macro for that shot?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
I like how the background is blurred out....you didn't use macro for that shot?
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Oh wow! I didn't know there was a macro option. :x no.

Christmas time
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8424580/PS_000004.jpg

pigue said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8424580/PS_000004.jpg
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Great pic! Did you do anything special with the camera settings?

Just shot and hit soften in Picture lap app. Thats all.

heres mine!
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/4462649/1/focus photos?h=91af57

here's mine

Camera Issues

I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!

I was just about to post about this as well. I'm hoping its a software issue because when taking landscape photos especially the blurryness is terrible.
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vitodintino1228 said:
I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!
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It is night now so I cannot take any daytime pics but I have not noticed anything like that. Here are a couple pics I just took outside with the flash on. Look fine to me.

Yeah I didn't have a problem earlier, took this a few hours ago, completely freehand. View attachment 527589
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d.scardino said:
I was just about to post about this as well. I'm hoping its a software issue because when taking landscape photos especially the blurryness is terrible.
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Dude, do yours look as sharp as that?

keitht said:
It is night now so I cannot take any daytime pics but I have not noticed anything like that. Here are a couple pics I just took outside with the flash on. Look fine to me.
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Any particular settings? Mine don't look nearly as sharp. Does your display look blurry before hand? or is it that clear all the way through? I've noticed they look a lot better when i preview them back in the gallery than while i'm taking them. Ugh. I feel like i've run into this problem before... oh yeah, my droid x..

vitodintino1228 said:
Any particular settings? Mine don't look nearly as sharp. Does your display look blurry before hand? or is it that clear all the way through? I've noticed they look a lot better when i preview them back in the gallery than while i'm taking them. Ugh. I feel like i've run into this problem before... oh yeah, my droid x..
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The display looks somewhat pixelated but the actual photo looks much better.

In order to not take away from this thread and to keep things organized I am starting a Camera comparison thread seperately

Mine too, but i'm using captivate
I just upgraded to serendipity's latest rom (6.3, 2.2.1) and all of a sudden, my photos are all very blurry and poorly exposed.
the camera worked GREAT on the stock rom.
any ideas or help is very appreciated.

tcdoe said:
I just upgraded to serendipity's latest rom (6.3, 2.2.1) and all of a sudden, my photos are all very blurry and poorly exposed.
the camera worked GREAT on the stock rom.
any ideas or help is very appreciated.
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What does this have to do with the Xoom?

I was having the same problem. After taking the picture install QuickPic. There is a problem with the stock honeycomb picture viewer.
Sent from my ThunderBolt

vitodintino1228 said:
I just wanted to know if you guys were getting the same issue.. My xoom is taking awfully blurry pictures, even when im standing still. Either the stabilization is horrid or my camera is messed up.
Feedback? Thanks!
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From my experience, the pictures look quite bad when viewing them on the Xoom (via the gallery app), but once you offload them and look at them on the computer they look quite good. Do you have auto-focus turned on in the camera settings, and are you holding down the shutter long enough to let it focus? You may accidentally have the camera set to not focus or be in macro mode, which would lead to quite the blurry picture.
Offload some of ur pics onto a computer and see if they still seem blurry.
FWIW it seems like macro shots are the only ones that actually look half-decent on the Xoom itself.
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I was having the same problem. After taking the picture install QuickPic. There is a problem with the stock honeycomb picture viewer.
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Thanks for the suggestion. This actually shows the pictures clearly. Wonder whatsup with the stock Gallery app?

also keep in mind that a tablet is not the optimal platform for taking pics. Image stabilization, while good, cannot work miracles and the tablet form factor is not the easiest to hold steady while taking a pic....

Quality is just OK, my phone is far better for taking pictures.. I didn't expect much from a tablet anyways..
Video camera is decent aswell, however the stuttering issue I had with my first 2 wifi xooms still exists, oh well, I prob wont even use this for recording anyways...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyXAw5JtJlQ

p2flol said:
Quality is just OK, my phone is far better for taking pictures.. I didn't expect much from a tablet anyways..
Video camera is decent aswell, however the stuttering issue I had with my first 2 wifi xooms still exists, oh well, I prob wont even use this for recording anyways...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyXAw5JtJlQ
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Hawaii??
Looks real nice!

New Camera Tricks***GET AWSOME PHOTOS*** No mods

After bringing up the camera issues and being attacked by Faithful EVO Thumpers, I decided to do something about it and find some easy home made fixes so that people could get HD IN DEPTH photos with out switching to a phone with a much better camera (Samsung-Clears throat)
I found that the photos are naturally over exposed and over saturated. If you have bought a EVO and taken a picture you have probably scratched your head as many times as i did trying to figure out why the camera on your old phone was WAY better.
MAIN Problem - The Evo has 2 LED flashes. This is far more that the phone ever needed for photos.
I used the stock MIUI camera app for most of these pictures. My second go to app would be Camera 360 Ultimate. Which has stunning effects.
The photos i am posting were raw images. I adjusted the saturation and contrast to suit my taste. No effects were used. In some cases i made the photo black and white
I have had the best photos with the lates MIUI ROM. Only because the camera controls allow you to change a lot of dynamic properties that will provide you with all sorts of great photos.
This is a list of the settings that work best for me.
1. FOCUS MODE- TOUCH-- Works best for DEPTH OF FEILD
2. COLOR EFFECT- NONE- MONO FOR BACK AND WHITE
3. ISO- AUTO---- YOU WILL SEE WHY IN A SEC
4. METERING- CENTER WEIGHTED
5. ANTI BANDING - OFF -
6. STABLE SHOT- 1 SEC-
7. 8 MP
8.SUPER FINE QUALITY
9. BRIGHTNESS- -1.0 TO -05
10. Contrast and Saturation at 2- For those with a non miui rom. REDUCE THOSE UNTIL ALMOST ALL COLOR IS GONE. adjust back up to your liking
11. Sharpness is at max
12. White balance should always be INCANDESCENT if indoors unless you are going for a desired effect.
13. Flash is auto or ON
These settings are pretty much universal regardless of what camera app you use.
Camera 360 allows you to reduce the compression.
***** HERE IS THE TRICK*****
Go grab some REAL D 3d glasses. They are free and most people have them laying around the house from the last 3d film they went to.
Cut a small circle from the lense of the glasses---BIG ENOUGH TO COVER THE LED LIGHTS.
Mount it over the flashes with your own prefered method. Do not block the flash--Only cover it with the shaded Plastic lense.
THATS IT. Hope this will inspire some people to take creative photos and enjoy having a phone that also takes good photos.
I was tired of watching random people get jumped by Forum trolls who would rather defend the device instead of make it better.
THE PURPOSE IS TO CONTROL OR CONVERT THE LIGHT OF THE FLASH. I also had great photos by completely covering one LED with
I took these photos in a very dim room that has an old light. Conditions do not matter. The more natural light you have the better but be creative and let me know if you find something better to cover the flash with.
Download the zip for entire photoshoot and starting ideas

That's awesome but I've gotten great quality pics just ad good ad those with no tricks. Obviously not straight from the camera app. With help from pic say pro. Are these in any way edited?
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Additional pictures
Remember to set your focus on touch or manual for depth of feild pictures like these

Rydah805 said:
That's awesome but I've gotten great quality pics just ad good ad those with no tricks. Obviously not straight from the camera app. With help from pic say pro. Are these in any way edited?
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These are raw photos. The only edit i did was black and white
I found that adjusting the saturation all the way down makes awsome black and white. add contrast to darken the backround. I took these with horrible lighting indoors.
Im sure these pics will turn out great once i get em into PHOTOSHOP. Put the app on your phone and and you almost dont even need a 700$ camera----excluding the lenses-

More pics
These are the things that were next to me. Im sure with some time i will develope new ways to capture the world.
These photos have not been edited The color pics were taken with camera 360 ultimate which did have a light hdr setting. The best photos are toooo large to upload.

http://bigpoppaphat.deviantart.com/
Check out my deviant art page, all the pics were taken with my evo and edited using pic say pro, ill try your little trick also.

Will do
phatmanxxl said:
http://bigpoppaphat.deviantart.com/
Check out my deviant art page, all the pics were taken with my evo and edited using pic say pro, ill try your little trick also.
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I have not tried pic say pro yet. Sounds popular....
Just checked out your pics and they are impressive.

This is the only light in my room
This is the only light i have in the room. I think this method works best for those with bad room conditions

Works very well. I cut out a small piece of the 3d glasses, and put it over the flash, behind the phones' back cover, so the cover holds the plastic in place. Thanks for the tip, it took me like 3 minutes, and I can see the improvement in the flash.

wow, i knew it had a good camera, but shots like these i may even use my evo as my only digital camera(not really) but still great. I hardly ever use the camera app but i think that may change.

Hmm, great tip! I'm glad it has a better camera than we all thought, and I'd be all over this, but I just bought a d7000.
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thanks dude....
i dont have any issues with my camera...and pics..
but i am not that picky.
will give this a go.. and see.

Cute trick, polarize the flash instead of the lens. I've done tricky stuff with gels with my nikon, never considered the evo to have a serious enough cam to bother, but I have a ton of these glasses lying around that I might have to try this with.

lowertar said:
Works very well. I cut out a small piece of the 3d glasses, and put it over the flash, behind the phones' back cover, so the cover holds the plastic in place. Thanks for the tip, it took me like 3 minutes, and I can see the improvement in the flash.
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DUDE. THATS AWESOME. I feel like a stoner. I taped mine on like a dumbass. LMAO

Hrshycro said:
Hmm, great tip! I'm glad it has a better camera than we all thought, and I'd be all over this, but I just bought a d7000.
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Your going to love it more than you will know. Nothing can sub a d7000. Im not big into photography but do have a friend in that business. That camera is OUTRAGOUSLISHISHLY (Sound it out) Beautiful

awesome tips!
Thanks man!

Holy crap I have like 10 pairs of those. Definitely trying your tips out later today and see if I can get some good pics of my daughter
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rhymestars said:
Your going to love it more than you will know. Nothing can sub a d7000. Im not big into photography but do have a friend in that business. That camera is OUTRAGOUSLISHISHLY (Sound it out) Beautiful
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Thanks! I upgraded from a D40x, and so far, it's quite the upgrade. I'm loving it.

will this method/settings improve pictures in general or just closeups and depth-of-field shots in suboptimal lighting?

Kinda disappointed (good if you want to buy z1)

Hello xda members, I bought this phone because i thought it would be an awesome phone. Which it kind of is but still not. And i am writing this so people who wants to buy this phone gets a some information about the phone. And yes i know there are a thread like this, but one is only positive and the other is only negative etc.
In general this phone is a beast, it look good really premium feeling. But when using it for a couple of days i fins so much in this phone that is really bad that i seriously consider changing phone.
I am not make this phone look bad or so, it is still a awesome phone but these things is not acceptable imo. And all of these things that i will write are IMO
- ´The camera is really good, it takes sharp pictures and is quite good when it is dark (but should be better), but god damn the camera app is terrible. There are no options at all! You can't do a sh*t, and when taking pictures of "landscape" the picture turns out great, but when you zoom in every single detail is blury as hell (look attachment). A phone with 20MP should have much better camera app and more features.
- The battery life isn't good, I used only GSM and no wifi, lowest brightness and the only thing i did was texting and looking at the clock. But the phone was still consuming quite a lot battery..
- The wifi performance is bad, i have a samsung galaxy s2 too and i put the phones on the table and my samsung has stronger signal (which leads to "faster" internet).
- The viewing angels are bad but it's okej i can live with that not such a big problem.
- The bezel is way to big, the phone could be smaller and still keep the display size, because the phone feels a little bit to big and doesn't feel so good in the hand.
- And last but not least there are a few things they should fix in their "ROM", that are bugging me.
But overall it really is a great phone, but these things makes me consider changing phone.
Hope those of you who want to buy this phone thinks this is useful.
The first picture is in auto mode, and the other one is in manual mode.

have to agree with you on the camera. when you take a photo it looks really nice, but when you zoom in it's a like a painting lol. no sharpness whatsoever. hopefully it'll get improve with further update. i thought the battery would be much better, but i find it the same as my old htc one and that's 2300mah.

natkaen said:
have to agree with you on the camera. when you take a photo it looks really nice, but when you zoom in it's a like a painting lol. no sharpness whatsoever. hopefully it'll get improve with further update. i thought the battery would be much better, but i find it the same as my old htc one and that's 2300mah.
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Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.

Timaustin2000 said:
Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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I didn't say that the pictures ain't sharp, they are sharp and really look good. But when you take a picture like the ones in the attachment it is very blury when you zoom in. But overall the sharpness is really good, but the camera app sucks big time, you can't change any settings, the old phones with 2MP had more options..
Btw nice pictures you captured with the z1

Timaustin2000 said:
Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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Did you take this pic with Z1? Can you upload the full size of it?

gm007 said:
Did you take this pic with Z1? Can you upload the full size of it?
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I did - self selected Night Portrait mode at 8mp 4:3. The other version of this shot was actually captured using superior auto (I know!). SA decided to turn on "Spotlight Mode" as the interior of the truck was bright and the exterior was in full darkness. It became a very interesting shot!
The full samples are in the link (above). Click on the image in the gallery. This takes you into Lightbox mode. Then right click the image and select "original". This is the full resolution image. Right click again, select "Save As" and resize and inspect to your heart's content.
All of the images in the gallery above are as they were out of the phone. No post processing, no photoshopping. Many of them were taken in Manual with me selecting scene modes but if you see a 16:9 shot it was taken with Superior Auto.

Well i must say i had HTC One which was tricked out, with a modified stock rom and a custom kernel with all the bells and whistles, I use my z1 with wifi connected when im at home and 3g when im out and about, its my main media player, so i use it for mp3's and what not aswell as whatsapp and a few other apps, i got to say the battery life is about the same as my old htc one, bearing in kind, the z1 has a bigger screen and a faster processer. Ok i agree with the bezel it could be better, its still a well built phone and in terms of looks i think the htc one is the only phone which will top it for now.
I dont know whats wrong with your z1 but my pics come out great but then again i dont use superior auto mode, i have no issues with wifi, i get very good speed even when i only have 2 bars. it is known that some phones do not give an accurate read out(GIYF). How long has this phone been out? and how many updates have been made? its a brand new phone only released a few weeks back, fixes will come out, have some patience.

Timaustin2000 said:
I did - self selected Night Portrait mode at 8mp 4:3. The other version of this shot was actually captured using superior auto (I know!). SA decided to turn on "Spotlight Mode" as the interior of the truck was bright and the exterior was in full darkness. It became a very interesting shot!
The full samples are in the link (above). Click on the image in the gallery. This takes you into Lightbox mode. Then right click the image and select "original". This is the full resolution image. Right click again, select "Save As" and resize and inspect to your heart's content.
All of the images in the gallery above are as they were out of the phone. No post processing, no photoshopping. Many of them were taken in Manual with me selecting scene modes but if you see a 16:9 shot it was taken with Superior Auto.
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I start to believe that there is different hardware in each batches of this phone,like sony did with the screen.
No way i can get this results with my phone.
Anyway i am going to the shop for a replacement maybe i will get lucky with one that have good hardware.
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sofir786 said:
Well i must say i had HTC One which was tricked out, with a modified stock rom and a custom kernel with all the bells and whistles, I use my z1 with wifi connected when im at home and 3g when im out and about, its my main media player, so i use it for mp3's and what not aswell as whatsapp and a few other apps, i got to say the battery life is about the same as my old htc one, bearing in kind, the z1 has a bigger screen and a faster processer. Ok i agree with the bezel it could be better, its still a well built phone and in terms of looks i think the htc one is the only phone which will top it for now.
I dont know whats wrong with your z1 but my pics come out great but then again i dont use superior auto mode, i have no issues with wifi, i get very good speed even when i only have 2 bars. it is known that some phones do not give an accurate read out(GIYF). How long has this phone been out? and how many updates have been made? its a brand new phone only released a few weeks back, fixes will come out, have some patience.
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There is nothing wrong like that the picture a really good it's just that the pictures taken at landscape shown in attachment. everything becomes blury when zoomed in. And that the camera app kinda suck if you compare to other phones even though this phone has a great camera and that the camera is something sony focused on.

Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Mmm, have you still the film on the back of your phone? The len looks awful, I did a lot of shots never got one so bad. Are we sure is a Z1? Finally on which firmware version are you?

sevoflurane said:
Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Check the last page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474654
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gm007 said:
Check the last page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474654
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So in order to stop this long pause do we have to tick the optimize backlight thing?
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sevoflurane said:
So in order to stop this long pause do we have to tick the optimize backlight thing?
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It seems so
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Actually it does, fixed right away after first reboot, what about the email not showing inbox mail.
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sevoflurane said:
Actually it does, fixed right away after first reboot, what about the email not showing inbox mail.
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Stock email? I never use it.
Maybe some settings.
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Timaustin2000 said:
Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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My friend i own Xperia T and Xperia Z1 and so far the Xperia T is THE BEST CAMERA PHONE EVER.
The quality when you zoom in to the pictures with Xperia T is better than my digital cameras.
The noise at Xperia Z1 pictures is worst than my Xperia arcS.
The same think happened with Xperia Z also.
After the update to 4.2 the camera quality went to [email protected]
I hope that is a software problem that can be fixed.
Last but not least.
Xperia T at superior auto captures at 12Mp and the Z1 flagship at 8Mp.

sevoflurane said:
Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Yes I had this problem and it was taking so long to boot I thought the phone was dead.
Finally after waiting as long as 10 minutes for it to boot it started up. It would get very hot during this and use as much as 5% of battery. I found it would do the same thing even when booted in safe mode or after I had removed all of my apps.
From what I can see it is some sort of software problem that happens after the installed apps are updated when you initially configure the phone. I can't tell which app is the problem. Another weird thing is that it was carrying over settings from my last phone (lock screen text etc) that are not compatible and this may have been a problem as well.
I did a factory reset and setup again and it did the same thing after a day of use. So I did a factory reset and then did not upgrade the apps or do a sync right away to my Google account and so far so good and I powered off and back on this morning with no issues. So I am not going to update the core apps for now and maybe I have it fixed.

Chekhn said:
I didn't say that the pictures ain't sharp, they are sharp and really look good. But when you take a picture like the ones in the attachment it is very blury when you zoom in. But overall the sharpness is really good, but the camera app sucks big time, you can't change any settings, the old phones with 2MP had more options..
Btw nice pictures you captured with the z1
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You have tried putting it in manual mode instead of superior auto right ?
manual mode you get more options than i've seen in any other phone camera
(exposure, white balance, iso, metering mode, focus mode, resolution, hdr, steadyshot to name but a few)

keithwalton said:
You have tried putting it in manual mode instead of superior auto right ?
manual mode you get more options than i've seen in any other phone camera
(exposure, white balance, iso, metering mode, focus mode, resolution, hdr, steadyshot to name but a few)
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yea i know, but i meant when you have 20MP there are no settings you can change only when 8MP, but the biggest lack (imo) is that they don't have features like for example drama, slow motion etc that galaxy s4 has, htc one also has the slow motion thing.