Hi,
Just thought I would put this on here becasue I have seen a few posts with people having this problem, where ITunes purchases were playing in the incorrect order in the sense player. I tried quite a few programs and none of them seemed to work, media monkey seemed to destroy quite a bit. So I got dBpoweramp music converter and it works a treat. It lets you edit the ID3 tags to whatever you like it has an easy to use interface and finaly my tracks are playing in the right order on sense music player. I did have to convert them to mp3 but that's a better choice to have anyway as it is far more universal than m4a.
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Ian
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I have searched in vain but I cannot find an answer to the following question about TCPMP. I have used it for years on several generations of PDAs, but I cannot find a way of showing the Album cover when playing wma files. Built-in Microsoft WMP does it, but TCPMP apparently cannot? I tried the commercial version of Core Player which does do it, but I found it too messy to use the program (e.g. odd large fonts on my VGA device, Loox N560, making playlists unviewable).
Has anyone found a way of making the album art display whilst playing a track, please?
TCPMP does always display a folder.jpg if (there is one) when playing music from the same folder.
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TCPMP does always display a folder.jpg if (there is one) when playing music from the same folder.
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Thanks for that.
I think it only works when the files are mp3 but not when the folder contains wma files. All my folders have a "folder.jpg" file in with the wma music tracks but they do not display. I wonder why they do with mp3s and not with wma... or am I doing something wrong? Each folder has multiple wma tracks, a
folder.jpg and an AlbumArtSmall.jpg and a playlist file ***.m3u. I can make TCPMP show the Album cover if I include the Folder.jpg in with the selected tracks in a Playlist, but it just sticks on displaying the picture and doesn't play the wma tracks!
Help!
If anyone is interested anymore? ... I have performed exhaustive tests and these are the results.
If I have a folder with mp3 files and a Folder.jpg the picture shows when playing any of the mp3 files in the same folder. If the folder contains only wma files and the Folder.jpg the picture does NOT display. So it looks like TCPMP is programmed to show the Folder.jpg only when playing mp3 files in the same folder and NOT other formats like wma.
I even tried putting a silent mp3 track in the playlist in front of the wma tracks. Whilst playing the silent track (about 3 seconds) the folder displays but as soon as the first wma file of real music starts, the album cover picture disappears. It is obviously hard coded into TCPMP! Shame. I ran audio tests awhile back and the quality of the wma files was the same as mp3 files, but at half the sampling rate and therefore creates files half the size. So I took the decision to encode all my collection of CDs in wma. I have all the album covers in with them. The only option is to re-encode all the wma files to mp3.... oh blimey that is a big job! But at least I now know what is happening?
Has anybody hacked TCPMP to solve this? Unfortunately I don't have the skills to do it..
i also use wma although its from microsoft. Just use S2p ! its much better for music and fingerfriendly, but has no playlists.
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i also use wma although its from microsoft. Just use S2p ! its much better for music and fingerfriendly, but has no playlists.
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Thank you for this helpful suggestion. I have S2P now installed. It has a beautiful GUI! I had not discovered it. And I love the revolving windows and the album covers. And I am tempted to use it, BUT I have a 16Gb SDHC full of music in folders and the thousands of tracks just scroll up for ever.. finding stuff will be hard. The absence of user designed playlists is a bit of a shame. However, the arrows on the left are good and get me to the folders just fine. I have just discovered the tap on the album cover gives the playing position etc, Brilliant. Thank you so much. It is such a samll program too!
If only TCPMP had this interface (the commercial Coreplayer has an awful interface in my opinion)...... But thank you so much.
I would still love a way to solve the TCPMP version though.....
he he ! AC's Apps are the best ! try s2u2 and s2v. I think a playlists feature will come because developing continues. tcpmp is the best freeware videoplayer but i think core and tcpmp are not experts for music.
I forgot: you can also try HTC Audiomanager. i think newest version has Albumview (not sure) and Playlists (sure) ! search here
Thanks for the new pointer to HTC prog. I forgot to mention that I am using this all on the VGA Loox N560 not a smartphone. I kept wondering what the "No Service" at the top LH corner meant! Silly me! I tried running WiFi while it is on and a little WiFi icon appears too helpfully, but how on earth you can use it I have not - yet - a clue... but I will persist. I have been listening to lots of stuff and it sounds great. And I love the automatic screen backlight save (which I have reset to a longer time in the Registry).
The other AC stuff seems geared to mobile phones rather than a traditional PDA like mine. But I will try the HTC prog when I find it. Thanks again to bluemetalaxe.
fingerstoo - I also just downloaded TCPMP and found the album art was not displayhing for my WMA files, and stumbled across this thread.
I bought a 16GB MicroSDHC earlier this week and transferred ~9GB music (~4200 tracks) to it and have found that it brings my Tmobile Dash (Excalibur) to a painful crawl.
Switching between tracks (especially as you get towards the end of the library) is very slow, and it can take upwards of a minute or so to start a track.
I'm curious about why you're looking for a non-WMP solution to maintaining your library.
I'm wondering if you're not keen on sticking with WMP for the same reasons (thus validating my theory that this is a common problem based on the number of files in the library), or if you are just looking for additional features not found n WMP.
Would you mind sharing your experiences with WMP to let me know if you have found the same, or if it's just me?
Thanks in advance.
use mortplayer.. has every function youd ever need!
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fingerstoo - I also just downloaded TCPMP and found the album art was not displayhing for my WMA files, and stumbled across this thread.
I bought a 16GB MicroSDHC earlier this week and transferred ~9GB music (~4200 tracks) to it and have found that it brings my Tmobile Dash (Excalibur) to a painful crawl.
Switching between tracks (especially as you get towards the end of the library) is very slow, and it can take upwards of a minute or so to start a track.
I'm curious about why you're looking for a non-WMP solution to maintaining your library.
I'm wondering if you're not keen on sticking with WMP for the same reasons (thus validating my theory that this is a common problem based on the number of files in the library), or if you are just looking for additional features not found n WMP.
Would you mind sharing your experiences with WMP to let me know if you have found the same, or if it's just me?
Thanks in advance.
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Yup, WMP has problems with large numbers of files. But the real reason why I got hooked on a replacement was because of the inability to play Divx video. I became obsessed with small size video files and making them play without freezes or pixel artefacts/glitches. TCPMP won hands down. Mind you it took huge amounts of experimentation with sampling rates, codecs etc to get consistent high quality results. The other factor was to make good use of a VGA size screen. The higher sampling rates and this together needed a good player and PC video conversion software. TCPMP remains the winner. Having used it extensively for video, all I want to do was continue to use TCPMP for audio as well. It seemed to have good control of playlists, plenty of tweakable audio controls (more than WMP) and support for a wider range of audio formats ogg for example. The onlt thing that frustrated me was not seeing the familiar album cover. I own the CDs so why shouldn't I see the cover as it plays (if I want). And I discovered, as you see from this thread that the covers appear as mp3 tracks play but not wma! Obviously coded in.
Having tried S2p, I will probably use that for audio and stick with TCPMP for video. I use an old copy I bought of CD-DA to rip the files from CD. I like to be incontrol of my libary mannually. It annoys me when WMP on the PC wants to take control of transferring and syncing my music. I want total control myself, thank you! Although I used to use the PC WMP to rip files , I have found again that the flexibilty and file conversion features of CD-DA are more helpful for me.
I worked (albeit a long time ago) 9 years for the BBC in video/sound hence my interest in all these things. Perhaps this explains my obsession with being in control?
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use mortplayer.. has every function youd ever need!
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Thank you for pointing me again to Mortplayer. However, I have tried various versions of this over the last few years. But undeterred, I tried the very latest version off Mort's site. Although I agree that it has bags of functionality and does indeed show the album cover, I just cannot stand that GUI.
Bluemetalaxe suggested S2P above. I am pleased with this because IMHO S2P looks so cool and is easy to use (even a shade of HTC and Apple GUIs in there too?). So for me, it's TCPMP for video and S2P for audio from now on.
I am a fan and user of Mortscript though. Mort seems better at writing clever and sophisticated "backroom" code rather than swish GUI design? I think he needs a graphic designer to hel him improve his GUI. I follow the Mortscript thread on this site every day, like many thousands of others.... brilliant.
Anyone know of a good music player which has a resume function for each track?
I had Pocket Player on my HD2 which allowed me to stop one track, play another and then go back to the first track and continue where I left off. Used it a lot on audiobooks.
Alternatively, something that will allow me to set a bookmark on different tracks.
Even better would be one that does that and also still has music controls on the lockscreen like the stock player.
Not sure if I've come across anything like you want specifically for music.
If it's just for audiobooks, then try Ambling BookPlayer. It's pretty good at auto bookmarking what you are listening to, and comes with a widget too to play and pause books.
I'm using Ambling BookPlayer now and it's very good, particularly for my audiobooks and recorded drama. It's a bit of work to load the mp3 files into its library as it doesn't recognise the m3u playlists I have and it does not natively support album art but I liked it enough to buy the Pro version.
Mortplayer
Mortplayer Audiobooks in the market. Free. I used to use Mortplayer in WinMo and this seems much the same. Very reliable at saving where you are in each track. I have only used the android version for a few days but it seems OK and the WinMo one was rock solid, even picked up where I left off before a soft reset. Oh and there's a widget for it and it shows in notifications.
Worth a try.
im using mix zing lite
Okay, so now that I'm committed to the HD2, I'm also committing to fix or remedy the issues I have with the device. I've gotten it to run smoothly, except for the Sense music player.
First, is it normal for it to scan for music every time it's powered on, or unplugged from USB? You would think it would save an "image" of your library to run off while it scans the SD card for new files, but no. Instead, it scans for several minutes, in which time it won't display any artists or albums and lags horribly. Am I missing a setting, or have my library sorted incorrectly? Right now it's setup as root/music/artist/album/mp3, fwiw.
Also, the gap between tracks is terribly annoying. It totally kills mix cd's that are cut into tracks, and ruins the flow of a lot of albums. Is there a way to get rid of this, like the "skip silence" function in iTunes? I knowIf not, is there an app that scans and removes silence from the beginning/end of my mp3's as a batch process? For example, point the app to my music folder, and let it scan/trim silence from each mp3 automatically?
Other than these problems, I really like the music player... but these things are serious dealbreakers for me. If there's no way around them, is there a music player you can suggest that does these things?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I really don't think these things are a lot to ask from a music player, and I'm hoping there's a way to make it happen.
+1 i too has this same issue
Yes, this happens. People have suggested a music player called nitrogen, but I haven't really messed with it to know how good it is or not.
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Hey, thanks for the help!
I have several mixes ripped as a single track, but it's hardly convenient. I just hope HTC is aware of this, and working on a solution for an upcoming ROM release. I definitely won't be holding my breath, though.
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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Next try nitrogen and TCPMP
Can anyone help me here please?
I have searched all ,over and found many threads on this but non seem to answer my problem.
I may be fairly unique but I quite like the Sense music player. I have been working with it for a while now and almost have it doing my bidding.
I can get sections of my library onto my phone and playing in the sense player well now including album art and everything looks good.
The only thing I can't seem to do is import playlists from my PC into the sense player.
It's pretty frustrating having to re do my playlists from scratch in the sense player every time I shuffle my music.
I can't seem to find out where or what the sense player is looking for in a playlist. I have tried various formats and put them in different folders but can't get the sence player to see them.
I'm using MusicBee to sync my music as it's the only one I have found that syncs everything perfectly, including album art. I'm sure it will sync my playlists as well if only I can find out what format to use and where to put them.
Any ideas anyone??
OK I've given up. I'm now using Kinoma Play http://kinoma.com/play/ instead of the sense player. Works like a dream so far. All my music syncs and with a little tweaking in MusicBee my playlists go into Kinoma fine.
Still prefer the Sense player to be honest but it just won't do what I want.
There is a free version of Kinima but it's pretty limited, I had to upgrade to paid version to get access to playlists.
If you download the free version and run it you get a link to buy the paid one at a discount.
Why is the sense player so finiky :-(
Call me old school but i got several midi files i enjoy. On my old touch pro2, they play fine but on the S4 default music player they don't sound anywhere as good. First the sound is clipped and a lot of time distorted. Also the instrument sounds are off compared to the media player that comes with WM6.5. Anyone got a solution/suggestion? thanks
I don't know of many players on mobile or desktop that bother to properly support midi anymore. At this point I just listen to them through WMP. They're mostly old NES/PS1 theme songs that I won't let go of. Figured one of these days I should try to find the midis recorded as mp3's to save myself the headache.
Converting them to mp3 is a solution I guess. At least that will keep the sound consistent instead of depending on the particular device/player to interpret the midi. Take more space but I guess will b ok w a 64 gb microsdxc.. just wish midi support better