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Playing Gapless Albums in Media Panel

Greetings all!
I have the entire collection of MDB's Beautiful Voices Compilations, which consists of 40 gapless albums - so far - of Chillout bliss of different genres; essential for driving down the crazy streets of Cairo. I recently lost my iPod so I gave my X1 a try as a music player in my car today; copied one of the albums to my memory card and I was all set. The sound quality through AUX was pretty much the same (if not slightly better when it comes to bass) as that of the lost gadget.
Moving on to the important point, I noticed when playing this gapless album while the phone was on the “Media Panel” (Bluetooth Headset connected) that the files don't switch smoothly; sound stops for almost two seconds between tracks. The freeze is also there if I play the album from the “On the Road Panel”. I didn’t experience any noise what so ever when both players would move on to the next track.
I used the search function and couldn't find any threads about this. Has anyone else encountered the same problem? Is it well known? Is there a fix?! It's something that I can live with but I have like a 100 gapless albums in my library so it would be nice if I can manage to fix it.
Running R3A Generic UK ROM, no junk, no cracked software!
Note: Gapless Albums:
I'm quite sure you're all familiar with the term but for those who are not gapless albums are supposed to sound like one long connected track with no breaks what so ever, like listening to a live concert, or an Electronic music set, e.g. Tiesto's In Search of Sunrise, etc...

I know only 2 players who play gapless : Pocket Music, and Pocket Player. I use Pocket Player, it's pretty as nice as my iPod nano 2G.

+1 for pocket player. The only thing I don't like about it is that it takes a few seconds to open and is a tad slow to redraw when switching orientation. Great player though. Media browser as nice and easy to use as an ipod. Download the free fully functional trial. To turn gapless on, turn crossfade on and drag the overlap slider to zero.

Thank you all!
Thanks for the tip. I purchased Pocket Player. It sure works its way around gapless albums. But I'm in love with SE's media panel. I hope someone may find a solution for that soon.

problem solved with HTC sense music player disorganising tracks

Hi,
Just thought I would put this on here becasue I have seen a few posts with people having this problem, where ITunes purchases were playing in the incorrect order in the sense player. I tried quite a few programs and none of them seemed to work, media monkey seemed to destroy quite a bit. So I got dBpoweramp music converter and it works a treat. It lets you edit the ID3 tags to whatever you like it has an easy to use interface and finaly my tracks are playing in the right order on sense music player. I did have to convert them to mp3 but that's a better choice to have anyway as it is far more universal than m4a.
Cheers
Ian

HD2 Music player questions, suggestions needed.

Okay, so now that I'm committed to the HD2, I'm also committing to fix or remedy the issues I have with the device. I've gotten it to run smoothly, except for the Sense music player.
First, is it normal for it to scan for music every time it's powered on, or unplugged from USB? You would think it would save an "image" of your library to run off while it scans the SD card for new files, but no. Instead, it scans for several minutes, in which time it won't display any artists or albums and lags horribly. Am I missing a setting, or have my library sorted incorrectly? Right now it's setup as root/music/artist/album/mp3, fwiw.
Also, the gap between tracks is terribly annoying. It totally kills mix cd's that are cut into tracks, and ruins the flow of a lot of albums. Is there a way to get rid of this, like the "skip silence" function in iTunes? I knowIf not, is there an app that scans and removes silence from the beginning/end of my mp3's as a batch process? For example, point the app to my music folder, and let it scan/trim silence from each mp3 automatically?
Other than these problems, I really like the music player... but these things are serious dealbreakers for me. If there's no way around them, is there a music player you can suggest that does these things?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I really don't think these things are a lot to ask from a music player, and I'm hoping there's a way to make it happen.

+1 i too has this same issue

Yes, this happens. People have suggested a music player called nitrogen, but I haven't really messed with it to know how good it is or not.

Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that

sirphunkee said:
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Hey, thanks for the help!
I have several mixes ripped as a single track, but it's hardly convenient. I just hope HTC is aware of this, and working on a solution for an upcoming ROM release. I definitely won't be holding my breath, though.

I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.

speoples20 said:
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.

gilla409 said:
I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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Next try nitrogen and TCPMP

Music Player

So now that the 2.2 upgrade has broken the built in media player so that it no longer reads WMA tags, all my albums are found under the "unknown artist" heading
So what is the go to player that does not rely on the android subsystem (3 has the same problem) now?
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Converting to MP3 is really not an option.

I can't really help unfortunately, but can confirm Mixzing also suffers from this so guess it uses the same library as default.
I endured the ballache of conversion to mp3 although I kinda had been looking for an excuse to do it anyway.

Mushhushshu said:
I can't really help unfortunately, but can confirm Mixzing also suffers from this so guess it uses the same library as default.
I endured the ballache of conversion to mp3 although I kinda had been looking for an excuse to do it anyway.
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The problem is that WMV is the only en mass format that gives lossless.
MP3 is fine but doesn't give lossless.
The sound system in my BMW is happy playing MP3 and WMA and WMA lossless but the other lossless formats are not supported.
There is also the argument about 192kbps being better quality than a 192kbps MP3 but lets save that argument for another day
And lets remember, up until Sunday, everything was working just fine

My conclusion on the music quality and volume on the Desire HD

I've had real problems with the volume of music on my HD. Max volume when playing music is fairly low/average. Max should be loud, it should make me want to turn it down.
I've also been very unsure on the quality of the music and what will give the best quality when playing music. Stock player? Stock player with EQ? Stock player with SRS? Stock player with Dolby? PowerAmp? PowerAmp with EQ?
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I did about an hour of testing using old ipod headphones and my Sennheiser CX870s.
I put the stock music player widget on the same screen as the PowerAmp widget so I could play one song on them both and pause the player on one and start the other to compare music quality and volume between both players with both headphones. I did this over and over with classical, techno and rock music. that
I don't feel like typing an essay but I can confidently conclude that no combination of EQ in either player or SRS etc gives the music on my HD enough volume.
I can also confidently conclude that music does sound better on the stock Desire HD music player with SRS than PowerAmp. No combination of EQ or preamp settings in PowerAmp sounded better than the stock player with SRS. At the same time though, the difference is not that great.
This is of course all my opinion with my ears and my cx870's.
One problem I've had with the cx870's is that they sound way to bassy with stock player SRS and PowerAmp with the EQ, but that is probably headphone related so not relevant to this.
I found that while jacking up the preamp in PowerAmp did help the volume, it also distorted it and somewhat ruined the clarity of the music. Plus the volume output was still not much better than the stock player with SRS.

^^ Interesting thanks very much for that... much appreciated... I still have to work out much needed replacement the the stock player. I was thinking of trying PowerAmp next.
By the way I have seen some volume raise apps or Android volume unlock that are supposed to help maybe a bit on other phone models have you tired or had any luck with any of them on the Desire HD? Definitely something I'm keen to find a fix to as well as it's not really acceptable IME to play a youtube video and have it too quiet for friends to hear ect.
Take care n good luck. Will post back it I find any good news before you do.

I was using Poweramp first but arrived to the same conclusion than Rogueblade. Stock player has a better sound definition than third party players : less distortion etc...

Do you really find it too quiet? I find mine on the brink of too loud when its on max - I generally have it a click or 2 under, and its loud enough to drown out the sound of anyone around me and the sound of the train.

using headphones i find SRS amazing, im using it even in my car even using the headphones jack
just tried an HD2 and desire next to the DHD, seriously people i don't get what the problem is, the DHD has a much clearer sound
i'm on OTA 1.72 by the way

Am I missing something not?!? I cannot see how it's possible to use the stock player as lets say I copy 2 CDs on to the SD card. When I go to access it though the stock player there is not 1 folder with CD1 and another folder with another CD2 there is just a mess of MP3 tracks and folders. Now that is just one double CD from one artist. I would not like to see what happens when I go and transfer a resonable size collection of my MP3s containing mutliple folders of CD's and live sets, each foldered under artist names and music styles.
Someone please explain it to me if I am wrong. Would I be right to say I need to use another player that specifically has a feature of search/display music by folders?

I find the volume on DHD good enough. I use the device for music in the car and always leave it around half way and fully cracked up on the stereo and it's loud enough.
While listening with headphones I find max too loud but the volume preference would differ from person to person. Also I find SRS gives a nice bass boost which is great.
Someone please explain it to me if I am wrong. Would I be right to say I need to use another player that specifically has a feature of search/display music by folders?
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Yes, the stock htc music application sorts music by artist, album, music and then you can also create custom playlists.
Have you tried winamp for android? If it's anything like the pc version it will perfect for what you need.