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This is not the Sharp version that has to be patched with a modified .dll to work, this is the real thing. Unfortunately, only a beta so far, and only a 45 Day Testversion at that, but very nice to look at nontheless, and it natively starts in VGA Mode.
http://www.opera.com/download/mobil... Pocket PC phones running Windows Mobile 5.0.
Thanks Rapax,
Just downloaded it and will soon install.
Thanks once again for sharing this vital information
Kind Regards
After a brief trial:
Page rendering is probably the best (better than PIE and Netfront 3.3)
Does not handle mail attachments in web based e-mail accounts such as Gmail. Both PIE and Netfront 3.3 do support file attachments.
Does not support flash sites though I have Macromedia flash player 6.0 on my Jasjar and PIE uses it. Netfront will take advantage of flash sites once the commercial version is available.
In terms of speed Opera appears to be the fastest compared to PIE and Netfront 3.3
Don't know if there is a way to define a user-agent because in its current form it forces us to mobile versions of web sites. I could not visit my hotmail site and it forces me to the mobile msn site. Likewise for www.handango.com
So all in all I have mixed feelings regarding this browser. Good in some areas but not the best. For my needs Netfront is still the overall winner. (However these are just my views)
Again may be it is only me but after I have used and closed opera (really closed) it prevents Planmaker to start up. I have to reset the Jasjar to be able to use planmaker again.
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Sweet Lord, it's gorgeous. Simply gorgeous.
THIS is the browser that should be included with WM5.0.
EDIT: TAB doesn't work to move between fields...minor point.
Sharp version - new version
What's the difference compared to the Sharp-hacked one?
Do you see any improvement?
I have that, and it's working well.
The major problem I have is in using java applets. Unfortunately it seems a problem only Nefront 3.3 will be able to solve.
Opera looks good on initial usage.
Seems very kind to the RAM, did not see any leakage unlike with PIE
I ve tried it but it doesnt start. I ve installed in sd and ram but doesnt start. Any idea?
No errors. the clock spin 4 times and nothing hapens.....
Is there a way to import my PIE bookmarks?
Has this version fixed the double-space bug when entering stuff into text fields?
I am using it too. I think this browser looks especially nice on these model of phones because of the landscape screen orientation, and VGA.
it seems to work very quickly, as well and I did not have a problem with java applets. in fact I went to my bank site and alot of other sites that used java with no problem. Not sure how they manage to fit everything and resize everything to that small screen but for right now it will be my browser of choice.
It handles new windows very well and like other said doesn't take alot of ram. i do find it runs better when installed on storage memory as oppose to memory card storage.
i am going to continue to test it though. I have not played with netfront 3.3 as much.. but i like opera alot better.so far.
those that have not tried it I highly recommend it.
I didn't like Opera 8.5. Personally, I prefer PIE with Multi IE... can't find any better!
It's out for Windows Mobile also here: http://www.opera.com/mobile/
Gave it a quick run, it scores 100/100 in the ACID 3 test; google sites also work like a charm !
Now how do we get it to use the accelerometer to turn and make pinch zoom work?
Also it would be nice to set in instead of Opera 9.7 in the Internet tab in Manilla.
Any ideas how to get those working on the HD2 with Opera 10?
Thanks !
ups! there's another thread on than, admin could you please delete this?
thanks !
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
hey thanks for the response my bay area friend, i'll give it a try
i figured to run the latest release of opera 9.7, so i havent really tested the previous versions. i'll give it a go though, thanks!
sumflipnol said:
I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
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Same build here, working flawlessly
Another one for 9.7 35432 build, the back button did it for me.
All Opera Mobile/Mini versions: Official thread
xredjokerx said:
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
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For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
My favorite is Opera Mini 4.2. I like the button control and the way pushing up and down jumps to links easily. Also right moves down a page and left moves up a page. I hardly ever touch the screen after remapping buttons with Keyboard Controller application. I only use Opera Mobile once in a while but that works fairly well with remapped buttons in version 9.5. Opera mini 5 beta doesn't work as well with buttons.
orb3000 said:
For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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i've already read that post over and over, and clicked multiple links, i just wanted to know which version rhodium users preferred and why
after some testing:
engadget website loading test: (reset cookies, hist, even RAM)
opera 9.7 35432 - 1.02m
opera 9.7 35432 T - 49s
opera 10 b2 - 1.28m
opera 10 b2 T - 1.05m
so im deducting that opera 9.7 is faster... im just debating on which build, since they're all so close in version numbers... but for now im sticking with 35432
last but not least. opera mini 5b2 is the best browser by far. interface, and dl times. amazing haha
Yes!!!! Finally... the java one was good, but had problems running on winmo.
Now... there's a real cab for it. yessss!!! I hate Opera Mobile and it's slowness. Finally!!
http://m.opera.com/next or http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
here is the cab
Okay, question. why use the mini 5, when you can use the opera mobile beta 10?
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Okay, question. why use the mini 5, when you can use the opera mobile beta 10?
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When i am in the many areas i go to where t-mobile is gprs here in Illinois, it will TOTALLY come in handy. Much faster!
Yeah it would definetly help if your boosting 2g gprs signal..
If your like me an run 3g most of the time, then opera beta 10 is the best
Just my opinion...
And it's quite faster than Opera Mobile. I'd like to make it default browser. I have already tried the registry settings, it won't work. Any ideas?
I love opera mini in general, but this version for some unknown reason cannot accept my facebook username and pass. Thus I cannot login to that page, it just keeps refreshing when I hit Login.
This is only in FB, in other pages that require logging in everything goes fine..
Anyone else experiencing this?
great browser but how do u open email links and bookmarks from outside the browser I click em and it just opens the browser start screen not the page I want!
I had to turn the password autosave off in the settings so facebook could acepted password.
This release is brilliant! It is great for multitasking, which is a huge plus. Is there a way to make it the new default browser? (for opening links out of other applications, in my case MoTweets?
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I had to turn the password autosave off in the settings so facebook could acepted password.
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No problem here logging into faecesbook, but I don't think I've tried logging back into it yet.
I've never used Opera Mini, but it is pretty nice.. It doesn't draw very well though, I've tried several sites and it looks really bad.. Like http://geocaching.com the site is kind of organized in columns and the columns are quite narrow, and winds up drawing on top of itself.
Opera 10 beta 3 launched Veeeryy slow. It was the only reason for me , for deleting it for ever. Im going to try out the mini version.. thanks for the hint
I have installed opera mini 5 now, but on some pages, like
www.openingstijden.nu or m.opentot.nl it doesnt give any search Results.. can somebody test and confirm this please.
crusher11590 said:
Okay, question. why use the mini 5, when you can use the opera mobile beta 10?
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Because this version doesnt eat up 90% of the device's resources to run. I am constantly amazed that people use opera beta 10. You can run opera beta 10 and sense UI.... THATS IT. try to run anything else and your system starts complaining about memory.
cirrob said:
Because this version doesnt eat up 90% of the device's resources to run. I am constantly amazed that people use opera beta 10. You can run opera beta 10 and sense UI.... THATS IT. try to run anything else and your system starts complaining about memory.
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I don't know what ROM you're running but I'm running WM 6.1 and when I run Opera 10, my ram is at 61 percent. I have no trouble running multiple apps when it's running.
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I don't know what ROM you're running but I'm running WM 6.1 and when I run Opera 10, my ram is at 61 percent. I have no trouble running multiple apps when it's running.
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I think that Opera 10 (and other versions of the "full" client) suffer more from the resource drain experienced overall in 6.5 vs 6.1; I'm running 6.1 as well, and I can run opera 10 and a bunch of other stuff (text, gmaps, music, etc) all at the same time.
Also, anybody using Opera 10 on 6.5 should try running the dynamic proxy resource and nopushinternet cabs to address memory use.
eff this thing! I cannot log into ANY websites, redbox, netflix, CAG..nothing that I have to input a user name or password and check a box to remember me. I guess I'll try to play w/ the 'save password' settings, but I'm back to using Skyfire until I figure it out..argh!!
To anyone using Mini: I know we all want to browse the web that looks mostly the same as on our home computers, and often that's nice, but try browsing with Mini in "Mobile View". It's really the best way to experience the web in Mini, it renders almost everything really nicely, no need for panning and zooming, you just scroll down the page in 1 direction and never miss anything. It's very nice and quick and easy for reading newsites and long articles and things like that.
I use Mini for this type of quick browsing and Mobile for anything more "heavy duty", it's a nice combo.
I would really like to set Opera Mini 5 as my default browser. If any one finds a solution please update this thread for all of us.
So I downloaded the latest version of Opera Mobile (10) from Opera's website but I've noticed now that it is not compatible with the zoom slider on the bottom; it does not give you the option to minimize when you click on exit like 9.7 does; and it always uses the whole screen so it's slightly harder to multitask.
Is there a TP2-specific version that retains all the previous compatible features of 9.7?
Thanks!
I just installed Opera 10 on mine last night.... and I uninstalled it within 15 minutes of use. Opera 9.7 native to the rom is slow and buggy. PIE functions far better IMO. However, Mini is still the first go-to browser for me. It just flat works and is fast. I still keep PIE as the default browser, and use Skyfire for when I need to view desktop version of sites. So I rotate between those three depending on what site I need to view.
Hmm ok thanks for the input. I installed Mini the other day but it looked and seemed to perform exactly the same as Mobile 10 so I uninstalled it (didn't see the point of having both installed). Maybe I'll give it another chance. I used Skyfire on my Titan but haven't tried the latest versions on this phone yet so I'll give it a try.
PIE seems to run really slow for me.
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Hmm ok thanks for the input. I installed Mini the other day but it looked and seemed to perform exactly the same as Mobile 10 so I uninstalled it (didn't see the point of having both installed). Maybe I'll give it another chance. I used Skyfire on my Titan but haven't tried the latest versions on this phone yet so I'll give it a try.
PIE seems to run really slow for me.
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Yes PIE is slow, and it sure looks a whole lot like Opera 9.7 IMO. But it does function better for some sites. For example, if I'm on Youtube's site, PIE will open up the video links in Steaming media, Opera Mini will not. But Mini flys through most wap/mobile sites, and that is why I use it 75% of the time. Skyfire can be slow too, but it will open up a site like a desktop... for the most part.
Opera 10 from what I can tell, is a bloated version of Opera Mini.
I too tried Opera 10 a while back and got rid of it quickly - however, I have come back to 10 and have learnt to live without the zoombar, since it is faster and takes up less RAM I was finding Opera 9.7 would often quit, even if I wasn't trying to multitask, whereas 10 deosn't seem to, even if I hit the Windows hard key and open up emial or calendar etc.
Wow, 9.7 closes on you? I have yet to have an application close on this phone even when I have lots of stuff open. But I've been running mostly MightyROM since I got it.
Opera 10 only has 2 levels of "zoom". It does not have a scalable zoom, so there is no way to make it compatible with the zoom bar on the TP2.
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Opera 10 only has 2 levels of "zoom". It does not have a scalable zoom, so there is no way to make it compatible with the zoom bar on the TP2.
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Actually, O10 has 7 levels of "zoom" within the settings tab. OMini has "text size" for it's pseudo zoom.
Skyfire for tilt2
is skyfire working for anyone on their tilt2?? i loved skyfire when ti was workigmn but a month ago it quit due to the iphone introduction to skyfire. All i want to do is listen to my www.skysports.com/radio on the tilt but no luck lately. tried opera mini but no luck
I would like to ask to anyone who uses Opera10 or 9.7 on your TP2 : How in the world can you cope with the scrolling thing with this browser? I mean the scrolling is really sluggish - I move up with my fingers, the scrolling is delayed by some seconds, and when I tried to scroll left/right/down, the scrolling respond after some seconds and the page scrolls by itself in all directions since it remembers the movements made of my finger.
I find this browser sluggish and very difficult/annoying to use - how can you guys still be using Opera 9.7/10?
I have never had those problems with Opera 10 on my (T-Mobile) TP2 running WM 6.5. It works fine for me.
Telyx said:
I have never had those problems with Opera 10 on my (T-Mobile) TP2 running WM 6.5. It works fine for me.
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Are you sure the scrolling is smooth with Opera10? I've tried on 2 tp2 and the results are the same. I think it's called ghosting. The finger scrolling lags and is a pain to browse the whole page.
Opera 10 working fine
I too had experienced some issues with the early builds of Opera 10 both beta and finals, but I have come back to it and use it a good 98% of the time when I want to surf the net on my phone. Seems that they may have fixed the issues with the lag from the early builds.
Then again, it just may be the ROM that I am using.
Seriously???
I don't know how you can think 9.7 is faster or better than 10!?!?! Simple one click zoom, fast page load times, speed dial on homepage. 10 is alot better, besides, if you want to minimize, just hit the end ket and go into task manager in upper right corner. There is also a TRULY final version on opera's website....it is very stable and smooth. I too had issues with the beta and switched to skyfire (mistake) but when the final came out, amazing.
I have a tip......its seems that whatsoever version of roms..the integrated Opera browser seems to be slow and not working well. So I removed it from my programs and downloaded Opera Mini 1. This browser is with in 2 sec on a website page. My advice?.....dont use the browser on the ROM ..it doesnt work well...
opera mini best
imm useing opera mini on my tilt 2 with no problems whatsoever. best web browzer that is compairable to a computer browzer iff u overclock urr device. iff there was a way to make the zoom bar compatible with opera mini even to just 1 or 2 zoom levels ide b happy.