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Will be able to use wm7 with the wing?

Will be able to use wm7 with the wing?

probably not
it's gonna require more resources than wm6/6.1. also, because theres no accelerometer or a good camera, all the really fun stuff won't work

whoa, whoa. accelerometer? why is that in a phone? i guess like the iphone? wow, i need some information on wm7, where can i find such information?

gabriel713281 said:
Will be able to use wm7 with the wing?
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WM7 isn't coming out till 2009 anyways, so i woudn't worry about running it on a Wing, casue by then you(and the rest of us) will probably have brought a new phone already. And even if you did preserve your Wing till then, it will most likely, not be able to handle WM7. The newer phones, like Xpera, Raphael or Diamond are already putting the Wing and Kaiser to shame. Things like a lack of VGA or higher resolution screen, lack of huge RAM capacity, lack of powerfull procceser, lack of an accelerometer are just some of the things that make the wing incompatible with the Diamond interface itself, let alone WM7.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
whoa, whoa. accelerometer? why is that in a phone? i guess like the iphone? wow, i need some information on wm7, where can i find such information?
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Yes accelerometer is "like the iPhone". An accelerometer lets you phone detect motion to allow motion sensitive features. HTC's newest phones(Diamond and Raphael) including this feature and so does Xperia.

and from what i hear, the kaiser isn't that hard to "put to shame"
in fact, except for the increase in ram, i'm told they act just like 200mhz OMAPs

fzzyrn said:
and from what i hear, the kaiser isn't that hard to "put to shame"
in fact, except for the increase in ram, i'm told they act just like 200mhz OMAPs
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not completely ture, the Kaiser features a 400mhz proccesor and twice the RAM so it should be,in theory, twice as fast as the wing. Plus it has 3G, GPS, increased ROM etc. etc....

im with you. wm7 definitively will require a powerful device

there are always hardware mods.
it shouldnt be that hard to add an accelerometer to the Wing. i know its not impossible.
it should also be possibible to replace the camera and screen with a better quality one.
it all comes down to this:
if you want wm 7 on your wing, your gonna have to hardware mod it (if you even still have a wing by 09')
im planning on getting another Wing. This means i will have a spare. I will hardware mod the damn thing myself if i have to.

Midian said:
there are always hardware mods.
it shouldnt be that hard to add an accelerometer to the Wing. i know its not impossible.
it should also be possibible to replace the camera and screen with a better quality one.
it all comes down to this:
if you want wm 7 on your wing, your gonna have to hardware mod it (if you even still have a wing by 09')
im planning on getting another Wing. This means i will have a spare. I will hardware mod the damn thing myself if i have to.
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might as well, just buy a new phone...............hardware modding isn't as easy as flashing a ROM, HTC spends months engineering their phones, it's not as easy as you make it seem to add custom features to them.

i read that wm7 will actually use the camera instead of accelerometers. i seems like it won't work when the phone is facing something that is a solid color. oh well, i'm sure they'll get it

HW modding isnt that easy, or anyone could "mod" their hardwares
(i will mod my Herald to run Windows XP Embedded)

i would mod mine to run symbian just for the heck of it. i mean, why not?

WM 6.1 on tmobile wing
question can i install windows mobile 6.1 on my tmobile wing? and how can i get it???

emtp211 said:
question can i install windows mobile 6.1 on my tmobile wing? and how can i get it???
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go to the Herald, forum and look for instructions to flashing a Custom ROM. Then go to the Herald ROM Development section and pick a ROM, all the new ones are WM6.1. I personally use and reccomend ItsPapablackdiamond by pappamos.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
i read that wm7 will actually use the camera instead of accelerometers. i seems like it won't work when the phone is facing something that is a solid color. oh well, i'm sure they'll get it
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T-Mobile and HTC didn't even give us WM 6.1, which are devices are perfect with, the geniuses at XDA forums had to get it themselves, and our phones aren't even gonna be compatible with WM7, forget about getting it from official sorces. And by the way, the idea of using your camera as a motion detector has existed for a while and it was ruled out beacuase, it would require ridiculous battery, RAM and CPU usage. Besides al the new phones have built-in accelerometers, anyways.

Touch HD GPU?

Hi guys, im new to this forum and have done a lot of reading, though have not found a definitive answer to my questions:
What is the issue with the Touch HDs GPU?
Is it that Drivers have not been made by HTC and so it is not used?
What can we do to overcome this?
I have already installed the Diamond ATI drivers although they do not seem to give me performance as smooth as i have seen on other, older pocket pcs.
Thanks in advance, i would really appreciate it if someone were to clear up these things for me.

ASK768 said:
Is it that Drivers have not been made by HTC and so it is not used?
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The blackstone uses the MSM72xx chipset made by Qualcomm. In theory there are drivers for that chip, but the Qualcomm policy is a bit strange. Apparently you buy the chip itself, but the drivers aren't included. So you have to pay for each driver seperatly.
Therefore HTC tries to save some money, so they haven't bought these drivers, which means that the major work is done by the cpu making the device slow (or at least slower than it could be with full hardware support).
Until now there is no real work around. We are still looking for devices with these drivers included, but so far we haven't found drivers, which make full use of the hardware.
Personally I'm wondering if those drivers really exist (for Windows Mobile (as claimed by Qualcomm)), because I can't imagine why distributers don't want to add them, as they would improve the performance dramatically.
That's the short story, you can read through this thread in order to get more information.

Thanks
So for the time being is all that we can do is wait for someone to write/port over drivers?

ASK768 said:
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So for the time being is all that we can do is wait for someone to write/port over drivers?
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or actually WRITE them instead of waiting
wish i could have the skills to be of help...

People in this forum are working on the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712

crashDebug said:
or actually WRITE them instead of waiting
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I guess such a low level programming can't be done without the knowhow of the chip itself.

I would like to help but the only thing i could feasibly help with is testing and benchmarks seeing as i know very little about programming and even less about low level programming

A truckload of questions

Long post - To help you understand where I am coming from and my situation to better assess what I'm looking for
I've read pretty much all the stickies, and the newbie section regarding questions but I didn't really get answers. Though I did learn a lot, but I'm still a little confused. I find some threads messy, in terms of instructions, and descriptions. Not forgetting the existance of compilation threads. Of course, kudos to everyone here for making awesome apps and roms.
I'm a student from Singapore, and I finally got my dream phone, which is the X1, my first smartphone, from a friend. Barely a few months old and still under warranty. So I'm pretty much a newbie in terms of smartphones, firmware, apps and all that. Been using it for about a month now, got a few minor scratches from wear and tear so it's no biggy, but the keyboards a lil faded, peeled. I'm not sure how to describe it, some letters are just a blob without the 'paint' on to denote it, and the slide-up screen's a little loose.
I started off getting apps like PockeTwit for Twittering to play around. Then I stumbled upon XDA forums. I started off 'boosting' my phone's capabilities with TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, R3A Camera Update, SRS WOW sound thingy. Probably the same way you would do to a PC with certain OC programs and whatnot. Then I installed that Manilla program thing, and now my UI's pretty much like a HTC. Which is awesome might I add. A little laggy, may not be perfect, but it's still great. Thereafter I found out about firmware, WinMo 6.5, issues with it, custom ROMs. Read about how to flash, break it down before flashing custom ROMs into it, which is easy actually. I'm deciding between the Touch-It ROM and the SE-X1 xPERT one because it already has all the goodies in it. More inclined to Barebone one even, then later installing the goodies I want.
I'm looking for one that would look great, with minimal lag, with all the goodies to help me keep it in check and upgrades. (I do understand that there will definitely be a little lag in smartphones due to it's hardware and how we upkeep them as owners.)
Here comes the questions.
1. I would like to change the keyboard to a new one and tighten the sliding-screen. Would SE do that? And would it be free due to warranty?
2. If I were to flash a custom ROM in, would it void my warranty? (Assuming I do it before sending it to SE to fix above problems)
3. Which ROM should I get? I like the goodies that come in the xPERT ROM, but I also like the HTC UI from the Touch-IT ROM. Is there a way to maybe integrate the two? (I'm assuming it would lag less if the UI was integrated into the ROM rather than having it as a seperate installation like I have now)
4. Which would be after the first three are settled, is with games. I've seen the phone's capabilities and what not around, with emulators for the PS1, fullscreen games like Palm Heroes, PDiablo and all that. I've tried them all but I just can't seem to get them all to work, am I doing something wrong?
5. Panels, the whole point of the X1 would be its panels. But I just can't seem to find any. I've searched google, lists, pretty much everywhere. All I see are the official released ones from SE. The most I found, being custom, was the Youtube panel which I got to work. Is there really a lot of panels out there?
[Edit - More questions in Post #5]
That's all the questions I can remember for now, it's pretty late. I'll put up more in the thread or post if I can remember.
Thanks in advance!

keiitastrophic said:
Long post - To help you understand where I am coming from and my situation to better assess what I'm looking for
I've read pretty much all the stickies, and the newbie section regarding questions but I didn't really get answers. Though I did learn a lot, but I'm still a little confused. I find some threads messy, in terms of instructions, and descriptions. Not forgetting the existance of compilation threads. Of course, kudos to everyone here for making awesome apps and roms.
I'm a student from Singapore, and I finally got my dream phone, which is the X1, my first smartphone, from a friend. Barely a few months old and still under warranty. So I'm pretty much a newbie in terms of smartphones, firmware, apps and all that. Been using it for about a month now, got a few minor scratches from wear and tear so it's no biggy, but the keyboards a lil faded, peeled. I'm not sure how to describe it, some letters are just a blob without the 'paint' on to denote it, and the slide-up screen's a little loose.
I started off getting apps like PockeTwit for Twittering to play around. Then I stumbled upon XDA forums. I started off 'boosting' my phone's capabilities with TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, R3A Camera Update, SRS WOW sound thingy. Probably the same way you would do to a PC with certain OC programs and whatnot. Then I installed that Manilla program thing, and now my UI's pretty much like a HTC. Which is awesome might I add. A little laggy, may not be perfect, but it's still great. Thereafter I found out about firmware, WinMo 6.5, issues with it, custom ROMs. Read about how to flash, break it down before flashing custom ROMs into it, which is easy actually. I'm deciding between the Touch-It ROM and the SE-X1 xPERT one because it already has all the goodies in it. More inclined to Barebone one even, then later installing the goodies I want.
I'm looking for one that would look great, with minimal lag, with all the goodies to help me keep it in check and upgrades. (I do understand that there will definitely be a little lag in smartphones due to it's hardware and how we upkeep them as owners.)
Here comes the questions.
First, I would like to change the keyboard to a new one and tighten the sliding-screen. Would SE do that? And would it be free due to warranty?
Secondly, if I were to flash a custom ROM in, would it void my warranty? (Assuming I do it before sending it to SE to fix above problems)
Thirdly, which ROM should I get? I like the goodies that come in the xPERT ROM, but I also like the HTC UI from the Touch-IT ROM. Is there a way to maybe integrate the two? (I'm assuming it would lag less if the UI was integrated into the ROM rather than having it as a seperate installation like I have now)
Fourthly, which would be after the first three are settled, is with games. I've seen the phone's capabilities and what not around, with emulators for the PS1, fullscreen games like Palm Heroes, PDiablo and all that. I've tried them all but I just can't seem to get them all to work, am I doing something wrong?
That's all the questions I can remember for now, it's pretty late. I'll put up more in the thread or post if I can remember.
Thanks in advance!
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1) Just ask Sony Ericsson
2) You can send it back unless you flash to any of the Official Roms and you have to flash the default spl so they don't find out that you flashed your phone.
3) I don't get your questions. If you install a ROM that has Touch Flo 3D then of course you get Touch Flo 3D (aka manilla 3d)... therefore you can delete the the Touch Flo 3D cabs...
4) Xperia sucks with games... btw what is Pdiablo? Link please?

poetryrocksalot said:
1) Just ask Sony Ericsson
2) You can send it back unless you flash to any of the Official Roms and you have to flash the default spl so they don't find out that you flashed your phone.
3) I don't get your questions. If you install a ROM that has Touch Flo 3D then of course you get Touch Flo 3D (aka manilla 3d)... therefore you can delete the the Touch Flo 3D cabs...
4) Xperia sucks with games... btw what is Pdiablo? Link please?
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Will be asking first thing in the morning regarding that. Just wondering if anyone had the same idea and probably got it fixed.
Regarding 2, if they'll fix it, I'll just wait till I get it back before flashing the ROMs then.
Sorry about the mix up with question 3, what I meant was, in regards to what I expecting from the X1, what I wrote in my first post. I like how the Manila UI looks and feels. But I'd like to have all the goodies or upgrades that are included in the other ROM.
So would it be ideal to flash the xPERT ROM and then installing the Manila UI? Or flashing the Touch-IT ROM and install all the other goodies and upgrades thereafter. Which would have minimal lag as a result, more space etc.
Hope I cleared it up.
PDiablo is a port of Diablo 1 to smartphones or PPCs (Whichever is the term), I read somewhere that it works fine on the X1. Here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3836658
Games are not an issue for me, since I have the PC and my PSP for it. I'm happy enough just to have the X1 as a phone, with apps and goodies.

For a properly working TF3D, you need it flashed into the ROM. Even then it'll be a tad slow at times (TF3D was coded horribly), but it'll be loads better than installed through CAB.
Which goodies in the other ROM do you want? Most can be installed anyway.

Angelusz said:
For a properly working TF3D, you need it flashed into the ROM. Even then it'll be a tad slow at times (TF3D was coded horribly), but it'll be loads better than installed through CAB.
Which goodies in the other ROM do you want? Most can be installed anyway.
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Clarified my thoughts in terms of programming, about flashing > CAB installation. Thank you.
Program wise, preferably those I listed, like the R3A goodies from xPERT ROM, TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, SRS WOW HD I guess. Which I'm assuming shouldn't raise any problems in regards to clashes and whatnot.
I understand the SE-X1 ROMs come with WinMo 6.5, does the Touch-IT ROM come with 6.5 or is it just 6.1?
Is there also a way to increase the volume beyond the given maximum on the X1? Sometimes I can be pretty deaf and miss calls or alarms due to that.
A seperate question. Is there a way to show upcoming appointments beyond the current day and/or the Calendar button on the Home tab in Manila?

You say - "a truckload of question"
I say - Bring them on !!!!!!!!!
Some of them were answered so here are my two cents.
3 - I am using the Generic R3A UK ROM. I find it pretty stable and decently fast. All the tweaks and apps can be done separately, so I don't need a custom ROM. By the way - you can find almost every app or tweak in a cab file.
4 - There are many games that can be played by the X1, but a few made for it . Just search the forum for topics about games. Like this one that I posted (sorry for the shameless self promotion) -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761&highlight=games+X1
Most of the problems are caused by the resolution of the games. Not many of them are in WVGA resolution. You need this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442426
5 - There are probably a dozen or less custom panels. Panels development = FAIL.
I dislike TF3D, so I can't help you there .

orelsi said:
You say - "a truckload of question"
I say - Bring them on !!!!!!!!!
Some of them were answered so here are my two cents.
3 - I am using the Generic R3A UK ROM. I find it pretty stable and decently fast. All the tweaks and apps can be done separately, so I don't need a custom ROM. By the way - you can find almost every app or tweak in a cab file.
4 - There are many games that can be played by the X1, but a few made for it . Just search the forum for topics about games. Like this one that I posted (sorry for the shameless self promotion) -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761&highlight=games+X1
Most of the problems are caused by the resolution of the games. Not many of them are in WVGA resolution. You need this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442426
5 - There are probably a dozen or less custom panels. Panels development = FAIL.
I dislike TF3D, so I can't help you there .
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Thank you for your reply and input. I've seen your thread about games and I find it highly useful. I'll be sure to refer to that if I intend to get more games.
Will also look at standard Generic ROMs since you brought that into light. Never really looked into that.
Currently playing with theChanner program now, watching the telly on the X1.
As with games, not really bothered with panels, just find it rather funny how a strong released concept like that would be so under-developed. Guess it'll take time.
Thanks again.

keiitastrophic said:
Program wise, preferably those I listed, like the R3A goodies from xPERT ROM, TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, SRS WOW HD I guess. Which I'm assuming shouldn't raise any problems in regards to clashes and whatnot.
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No, shouldn't be a problem at all. All those things are available in CAB format. SRS WOW HD doesn't work properly on the X1 though, so I don't know what that chef did.
keiitastrophic said:
I understand the SE-X1 ROMs come with WinMo 6.5, does the Touch-IT ROM come with 6.5 or is it just 6.1?
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Touch-IT has a WM 6.1 variant (10.3) and a WM6.5 one. The WM6.5 one is pretty old though, and if you use TF3D, having WM6.5 isn't that big a bonus.
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Is there also a way to increase the volume beyond the given maximum on the X1? Sometimes I can be pretty deaf and miss calls or alarms due to that.
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SRS WOW HD is the only method I'm aware of - which, like I said earlier, doesn't work.
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A seperate question. Is there a way to show upcoming appointments beyond the current day and/or the Calendar button on the Home tab in Manila?
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Many people have asked this, none have found out how so far. I think the best person to ask this is "Rotastrain" - he does a lot of Mode9 editing.
keiitastrophic said:
Will also look at standard Generic ROMs since you brought that into light. Never really looked into that.
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Although a possibility, do keep in mind that Generic roms might lack some tweaks that you require for some things to work properly. I'd recommend a stripped down and tweaked ROM instead of generic. Often chefs make these as well, since it's the first thing they do before adding in new stuff.
keiitastrophic said:
As with games, not really bothered with panels, just find it rather funny how a strong released concept like that would be so under-developed. Guess it'll take time.
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It won't take time, it'll take a miracle. The X1 has been released more than eight months ago. The peak interest in the device has come and gone, panels have failed.

To increase the volume, you can try what you can find here
A new version of touch-it with WM 6.5 should come shortly (it is in betatesting)

Angelusz said:
No, shouldn't be a problem at all. All those things are available in CAB format. SRS WOW HD doesn't work properly on the X1 though, so I don't know what that chef did.
Touch-IT has a WM 6.1 variant (10.3) and a WM6.5 one. The WM6.5 one is pretty old though, and if you use TF3D, having WM6.5 isn't that big a bonus.
SRS WOW HD is the only method I'm aware of - which, like I said earlier, doesn't work.
Many people have asked this, none have found out how so far. I think the best person to ask this is "Rotastrain" - he does a lot of Mode9 editing.
Although a possibility, do keep in mind that Generic roms might lack some tweaks that you require for some things to work properly. I'd recommend a stripped down and tweaked ROM instead of generic. Often chefs make these as well, since it's the first thing they do before adding in new stuff.
It won't take time, it'll take a miracle. The X1 has been released more than eight months ago. The peak interest in the device has come and gone, panels have failed.
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Well, so much for panels. I'll be sure to ask Rotastrain regarding that, I most definitely prefer seeing a list of upcoming appointments rather than seeing it a day before or having to go into the somewhat confusing calendar to look for stuff.
ROM-Wise, I guess I'll be going for the Touch-IT v10.3 one till the beta one is done.
Looks like I'm pretty much done, unless I can think of any more questions I likely forgot.
Thank you for answering all my questions.

Mopral said:
To increase the volume, you can try what you can find here
A new version of touch-it with WM 6.5 should come shortly (it is in betatesting)
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That .CAB file works perfectly! Loud and clear!
Thank you so much.

N00b Questions - Why change ROM? Why Root?

Hi,
Newby n00b here. I received my Magic/Mytouch/Ion/etc on tuesday and am very happy with it. It is fast, and there is a seemingly endless number of (free ) apps to play around with.
Now, I love gadgets and I love playing with them and tweaking them. The Android OS is what attracted me to the Magic. I've been reading these forums with interest for a little while and there is a lot of discussion about this ROM or that ROM, Rooting etc... But there is relatively little discussion about why anyone changes ROM? I can understand the urge to from a nerdish point of view, but why do it otherwise?
What are the benefits? Why change? My Magic runs the stock OS as it comes from Vodafone in the UK, I've loaded a number of apps and widgets which change the look of the phone, so I'd really only be looking at functionality. I also already run Touchdown for synching my work emails.
Rooting? That "opens" the machine doesn't it? allowing me to access further apps, etc...?
Sorry if the questions are a simple.
Note that this is n't so much another "which ROM should I use", more about what am I missing out on by not changing?
Cheers.

Root'ing your phone enables your to do a lot more things.
For me the main driver in rooting my phone was so that I could get paid apps in the market, which I couldn't do yet in NZ without being able to fake my location which root is needed for.
You can overcock your device so that it can run a hero rom better and all sorts of other wonderful things.
If you are a tweaker and want to mod your phone lots then rooting you phone is a must.
But beware with great power comes great responsibility

Cheers. Rooting is definitely something I'm going to do.
But changing the ROM? I'm not really seeing any compelling reason why I'd do this? The Hero ROM looks nice, but I'm OK with the aesthetics of my Magic as it is, so not really that bothered by looks. Functionality? It adds a couple of desktops (or whatever they are called) and Touchflo which lets you do the iPhone pinch and expand? That's about it isn't it? It is MS Exchange capable, but isn't that only over a USB? And I've got Touchdown anyway... Most of the Hero ROMs seem to come at the price of serious performance loss.
What else is it about the alternative ROMs that makes people switch?

njakobs said:
But beware with great power comes great responsibility
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LOL I like that!
But one of the major thing I like about root is that most/all Devs takes out the bloatware that comes with the phones. There are amazing Devs right now with the G1/Dream that are pushing the limits on the phone.
Also over here T-Mobile US hinders tethering and root can have you up and running. And I personally like tinkering with the possibilities of what the phone can do. Granted the Hero ROM is still not there as far as speed but getting close.

palexr said:
Cheers. Rooting is definitely something I'm going to do.
But changing the ROM? I'm not really seeing any compelling reason why I'd do this? The Hero ROM looks nice, but I'm OK with the aesthetics of my Magic as it is, so not really that bothered by looks. Functionality? It adds a couple of desktops (or whatever they are called) and Touchflo which lets you do the iPhone pinch and expand? That's about it isn't it? It is MS Exchange capable, but isn't that only over a USB? And I've got Touchdown anyway... Most of the Hero ROMs seem to come at the price of serious performance loss.
What else is it about the alternative ROMs that makes people switch?
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TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.

AdrianK said:
TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.
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Ah
A nice touch no doubt? But by all accounts the Hero ROMs are still too resource hungry for the Magic 32B?
Anyway, i think my inner tinkerer is urging me to flash, so to speak, certainly to Root. I'll see what the advantages are then for myself. Think I'll go for the euro ROM, or nk02's. They seem to be most appropriate for the moment.

AdrianK said:
TouchFLO is the UI hero uses, multitouch is what lets you pinch and stretch to zoom.
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Ah
A nice touch no doubt? But by all accounts the Hero ROMs are still to resource hungry for the Magic 32B?
Anyway, i think my inner tinkerer is urging me to flash, so to speak, certainly to Root. I'll see what the advantages are then for myself. Think I'll go for the euro ROM, or nk02's. They seem to be most appropriate for the moment.

I was in much the same position as you - Vodafone UK handset and not entirely sure what point there was to flashing. In the end I thought I'd give the Euro Rom a try and am very glad I did. The speed is much improved, the keyboard is superior, and the built in Exchange support knocks spots off of Touchdown, being properly integrated with the OS. I'm sure I'll try other roms but can't see many of them adding very much to what I have.

WMPoweruser TG01 ROM Status [Updated:3/29]

HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
Follow me on twitter to stay updated. WMPerson
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Complete/Received Thanks for the donation
ROM In Progress, First ROM created Now fixing bugs.... And improving it
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: I think within 2 weeks, but that's just me!​

about t01a
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?

where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look

bird_9527 said:
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?
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T01A Rom may be have a little bit difference from TG01 Rom ,so we need cedesmith release a tgtool version for japanese rom or need cedesmith release source code of tgtool and some one can modify it ,after that we can use it for japanese rom.
The japanese rom file has a tsd (toshiba docomo) extension not tsw(toshiba worldwide) extension. http://update.toshibamobile.com/upda..._SP50_wm65.exe

a_petrov303 said:
where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look
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There are you have BUUGGS post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631509

to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......

adzman808 said:
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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Yes please !

But i'm sure some optimizations could be done!
Moreover, it would be so great to have sense ui and all htc's programs working on our phone!
We just have to wait now!

as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.

What do we expect from a cooked ROM?
jeams said:
as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.
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I start:
I agree with the htc g-sensor emulation plus:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
- Null (or leave as an option) the screen off when calling
- Add essential camera features as White balance
What do you think?

the best thing would be if there are two kind of rom....
one fully equiped and one clean rom....
the fully equiped rom should have sense and other htc apps and some little tweaks like 1ghz or hd2 driver patch...also we have to focus the ram usage and the free memory....i think that are the major things..
the clear version have to be very very fast and with a lot of free ram!!!
also i think we could remove all unusefull toshiba stuff like wifi-app or the stripes menu....no one uses these apps!!!

20% lbattery imitation needs totally scapped i agree there

adzman808 said:
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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there are still problems in connection to pre-2005 BMW Bluetooth ULF - car kit

Pere said:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
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+bluetooth cannot be started if the battery is under 20%

Wen(WM) said:
HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Paid & Complete
ROM In Progress, Awaiting Device
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: Uknown​
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Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?

InsertNameHere said:
Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
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be patient

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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers

adzman808 said:
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POSTED IN 2 THREADS COS I'M NOT SURE THE FIRST ONE WAS THE CORRECT ONE!
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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+1000 well said, totally agree!

adzman808 said:
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POSTED IN 2 THREADS COS I'M NOT SURE THE FIRST ONE WAS THE CORRECT ONE!
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?

kevinpwhite said:
Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
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I agree as well. Only add that we need as a start point a Clean ROM but not only without the typical brand trash, also the stupid Toshiba limitations (20% battery and so on).
Come on!