Long post - To help you understand where I am coming from and my situation to better assess what I'm looking for
I've read pretty much all the stickies, and the newbie section regarding questions but I didn't really get answers. Though I did learn a lot, but I'm still a little confused. I find some threads messy, in terms of instructions, and descriptions. Not forgetting the existance of compilation threads. Of course, kudos to everyone here for making awesome apps and roms.
I'm a student from Singapore, and I finally got my dream phone, which is the X1, my first smartphone, from a friend. Barely a few months old and still under warranty. So I'm pretty much a newbie in terms of smartphones, firmware, apps and all that. Been using it for about a month now, got a few minor scratches from wear and tear so it's no biggy, but the keyboards a lil faded, peeled. I'm not sure how to describe it, some letters are just a blob without the 'paint' on to denote it, and the slide-up screen's a little loose.
I started off getting apps like PockeTwit for Twittering to play around. Then I stumbled upon XDA forums. I started off 'boosting' my phone's capabilities with TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, R3A Camera Update, SRS WOW sound thingy. Probably the same way you would do to a PC with certain OC programs and whatnot. Then I installed that Manilla program thing, and now my UI's pretty much like a HTC. Which is awesome might I add. A little laggy, may not be perfect, but it's still great. Thereafter I found out about firmware, WinMo 6.5, issues with it, custom ROMs. Read about how to flash, break it down before flashing custom ROMs into it, which is easy actually. I'm deciding between the Touch-It ROM and the SE-X1 xPERT one because it already has all the goodies in it. More inclined to Barebone one even, then later installing the goodies I want.
I'm looking for one that would look great, with minimal lag, with all the goodies to help me keep it in check and upgrades. (I do understand that there will definitely be a little lag in smartphones due to it's hardware and how we upkeep them as owners.)
Here comes the questions.
1. I would like to change the keyboard to a new one and tighten the sliding-screen. Would SE do that? And would it be free due to warranty?
2. If I were to flash a custom ROM in, would it void my warranty? (Assuming I do it before sending it to SE to fix above problems)
3. Which ROM should I get? I like the goodies that come in the xPERT ROM, but I also like the HTC UI from the Touch-IT ROM. Is there a way to maybe integrate the two? (I'm assuming it would lag less if the UI was integrated into the ROM rather than having it as a seperate installation like I have now)
4. Which would be after the first three are settled, is with games. I've seen the phone's capabilities and what not around, with emulators for the PS1, fullscreen games like Palm Heroes, PDiablo and all that. I've tried them all but I just can't seem to get them all to work, am I doing something wrong?
5. Panels, the whole point of the X1 would be its panels. But I just can't seem to find any. I've searched google, lists, pretty much everywhere. All I see are the official released ones from SE. The most I found, being custom, was the Youtube panel which I got to work. Is there really a lot of panels out there?
[Edit - More questions in Post #5]
That's all the questions I can remember for now, it's pretty late. I'll put up more in the thread or post if I can remember.
Thanks in advance!
keiitastrophic said:
Long post - To help you understand where I am coming from and my situation to better assess what I'm looking for
I've read pretty much all the stickies, and the newbie section regarding questions but I didn't really get answers. Though I did learn a lot, but I'm still a little confused. I find some threads messy, in terms of instructions, and descriptions. Not forgetting the existance of compilation threads. Of course, kudos to everyone here for making awesome apps and roms.
I'm a student from Singapore, and I finally got my dream phone, which is the X1, my first smartphone, from a friend. Barely a few months old and still under warranty. So I'm pretty much a newbie in terms of smartphones, firmware, apps and all that. Been using it for about a month now, got a few minor scratches from wear and tear so it's no biggy, but the keyboards a lil faded, peeled. I'm not sure how to describe it, some letters are just a blob without the 'paint' on to denote it, and the slide-up screen's a little loose.
I started off getting apps like PockeTwit for Twittering to play around. Then I stumbled upon XDA forums. I started off 'boosting' my phone's capabilities with TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, R3A Camera Update, SRS WOW sound thingy. Probably the same way you would do to a PC with certain OC programs and whatnot. Then I installed that Manilla program thing, and now my UI's pretty much like a HTC. Which is awesome might I add. A little laggy, may not be perfect, but it's still great. Thereafter I found out about firmware, WinMo 6.5, issues with it, custom ROMs. Read about how to flash, break it down before flashing custom ROMs into it, which is easy actually. I'm deciding between the Touch-It ROM and the SE-X1 xPERT one because it already has all the goodies in it. More inclined to Barebone one even, then later installing the goodies I want.
I'm looking for one that would look great, with minimal lag, with all the goodies to help me keep it in check and upgrades. (I do understand that there will definitely be a little lag in smartphones due to it's hardware and how we upkeep them as owners.)
Here comes the questions.
First, I would like to change the keyboard to a new one and tighten the sliding-screen. Would SE do that? And would it be free due to warranty?
Secondly, if I were to flash a custom ROM in, would it void my warranty? (Assuming I do it before sending it to SE to fix above problems)
Thirdly, which ROM should I get? I like the goodies that come in the xPERT ROM, but I also like the HTC UI from the Touch-IT ROM. Is there a way to maybe integrate the two? (I'm assuming it would lag less if the UI was integrated into the ROM rather than having it as a seperate installation like I have now)
Fourthly, which would be after the first three are settled, is with games. I've seen the phone's capabilities and what not around, with emulators for the PS1, fullscreen games like Palm Heroes, PDiablo and all that. I've tried them all but I just can't seem to get them all to work, am I doing something wrong?
That's all the questions I can remember for now, it's pretty late. I'll put up more in the thread or post if I can remember.
Thanks in advance!
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1) Just ask Sony Ericsson
2) You can send it back unless you flash to any of the Official Roms and you have to flash the default spl so they don't find out that you flashed your phone.
3) I don't get your questions. If you install a ROM that has Touch Flo 3D then of course you get Touch Flo 3D (aka manilla 3d)... therefore you can delete the the Touch Flo 3D cabs...
4) Xperia sucks with games... btw what is Pdiablo? Link please?
poetryrocksalot said:
1) Just ask Sony Ericsson
2) You can send it back unless you flash to any of the Official Roms and you have to flash the default spl so they don't find out that you flashed your phone.
3) I don't get your questions. If you install a ROM that has Touch Flo 3D then of course you get Touch Flo 3D (aka manilla 3d)... therefore you can delete the the Touch Flo 3D cabs...
4) Xperia sucks with games... btw what is Pdiablo? Link please?
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Will be asking first thing in the morning regarding that. Just wondering if anyone had the same idea and probably got it fixed.
Regarding 2, if they'll fix it, I'll just wait till I get it back before flashing the ROMs then.
Sorry about the mix up with question 3, what I meant was, in regards to what I expecting from the X1, what I wrote in my first post. I like how the Manila UI looks and feels. But I'd like to have all the goodies or upgrades that are included in the other ROM.
So would it be ideal to flash the xPERT ROM and then installing the Manila UI? Or flashing the Touch-IT ROM and install all the other goodies and upgrades thereafter. Which would have minimal lag as a result, more space etc.
Hope I cleared it up.
PDiablo is a port of Diablo 1 to smartphones or PPCs (Whichever is the term), I read somewhere that it works fine on the X1. Here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3836658
Games are not an issue for me, since I have the PC and my PSP for it. I'm happy enough just to have the X1 as a phone, with apps and goodies.
For a properly working TF3D, you need it flashed into the ROM. Even then it'll be a tad slow at times (TF3D was coded horribly), but it'll be loads better than installed through CAB.
Which goodies in the other ROM do you want? Most can be installed anyway.
Angelusz said:
For a properly working TF3D, you need it flashed into the ROM. Even then it'll be a tad slow at times (TF3D was coded horribly), but it'll be loads better than installed through CAB.
Which goodies in the other ROM do you want? Most can be installed anyway.
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Clarified my thoughts in terms of programming, about flashing > CAB installation. Thank you.
Program wise, preferably those I listed, like the R3A goodies from xPERT ROM, TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, SRS WOW HD I guess. Which I'm assuming shouldn't raise any problems in regards to clashes and whatnot.
I understand the SE-X1 ROMs come with WinMo 6.5, does the Touch-IT ROM come with 6.5 or is it just 6.1?
Is there also a way to increase the volume beyond the given maximum on the X1? Sometimes I can be pretty deaf and miss calls or alarms due to that.
A seperate question. Is there a way to show upcoming appointments beyond the current day and/or the Calendar button on the Home tab in Manila?
You say - "a truckload of question"
I say - Bring them on !!!!!!!!!
Some of them were answered so here are my two cents.
3 - I am using the Generic R3A UK ROM. I find it pretty stable and decently fast. All the tweaks and apps can be done separately, so I don't need a custom ROM. By the way - you can find almost every app or tweak in a cab file.
4 - There are many games that can be played by the X1, but a few made for it . Just search the forum for topics about games. Like this one that I posted (sorry for the shameless self promotion) -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761&highlight=games+X1
Most of the problems are caused by the resolution of the games. Not many of them are in WVGA resolution. You need this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442426
5 - There are probably a dozen or less custom panels. Panels development = FAIL.
I dislike TF3D, so I can't help you there .
orelsi said:
You say - "a truckload of question"
I say - Bring them on !!!!!!!!!
Some of them were answered so here are my two cents.
3 - I am using the Generic R3A UK ROM. I find it pretty stable and decently fast. All the tweaks and apps can be done separately, so I don't need a custom ROM. By the way - you can find almost every app or tweak in a cab file.
4 - There are many games that can be played by the X1, but a few made for it . Just search the forum for topics about games. Like this one that I posted (sorry for the shameless self promotion) -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761&highlight=games+X1
Most of the problems are caused by the resolution of the games. Not many of them are in WVGA resolution. You need this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442426
5 - There are probably a dozen or less custom panels. Panels development = FAIL.
I dislike TF3D, so I can't help you there .
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Thank you for your reply and input. I've seen your thread about games and I find it highly useful. I'll be sure to refer to that if I intend to get more games.
Will also look at standard Generic ROMs since you brought that into light. Never really looked into that.
Currently playing with theChanner program now, watching the telly on the X1.
As with games, not really bothered with panels, just find it rather funny how a strong released concept like that would be so under-developed. Guess it'll take time.
Thanks again.
keiitastrophic said:
Program wise, preferably those I listed, like the R3A goodies from xPERT ROM, TuneUp, XperiaTweak, VModeSwitch, SKTools, SRS WOW HD I guess. Which I'm assuming shouldn't raise any problems in regards to clashes and whatnot.
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No, shouldn't be a problem at all. All those things are available in CAB format. SRS WOW HD doesn't work properly on the X1 though, so I don't know what that chef did.
keiitastrophic said:
I understand the SE-X1 ROMs come with WinMo 6.5, does the Touch-IT ROM come with 6.5 or is it just 6.1?
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Touch-IT has a WM 6.1 variant (10.3) and a WM6.5 one. The WM6.5 one is pretty old though, and if you use TF3D, having WM6.5 isn't that big a bonus.
keiitastrophic said:
Is there also a way to increase the volume beyond the given maximum on the X1? Sometimes I can be pretty deaf and miss calls or alarms due to that.
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SRS WOW HD is the only method I'm aware of - which, like I said earlier, doesn't work.
keiitastrophic said:
A seperate question. Is there a way to show upcoming appointments beyond the current day and/or the Calendar button on the Home tab in Manila?
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Many people have asked this, none have found out how so far. I think the best person to ask this is "Rotastrain" - he does a lot of Mode9 editing.
keiitastrophic said:
Will also look at standard Generic ROMs since you brought that into light. Never really looked into that.
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Although a possibility, do keep in mind that Generic roms might lack some tweaks that you require for some things to work properly. I'd recommend a stripped down and tweaked ROM instead of generic. Often chefs make these as well, since it's the first thing they do before adding in new stuff.
keiitastrophic said:
As with games, not really bothered with panels, just find it rather funny how a strong released concept like that would be so under-developed. Guess it'll take time.
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It won't take time, it'll take a miracle. The X1 has been released more than eight months ago. The peak interest in the device has come and gone, panels have failed.
To increase the volume, you can try what you can find here
A new version of touch-it with WM 6.5 should come shortly (it is in betatesting)
Angelusz said:
No, shouldn't be a problem at all. All those things are available in CAB format. SRS WOW HD doesn't work properly on the X1 though, so I don't know what that chef did.
Touch-IT has a WM 6.1 variant (10.3) and a WM6.5 one. The WM6.5 one is pretty old though, and if you use TF3D, having WM6.5 isn't that big a bonus.
SRS WOW HD is the only method I'm aware of - which, like I said earlier, doesn't work.
Many people have asked this, none have found out how so far. I think the best person to ask this is "Rotastrain" - he does a lot of Mode9 editing.
Although a possibility, do keep in mind that Generic roms might lack some tweaks that you require for some things to work properly. I'd recommend a stripped down and tweaked ROM instead of generic. Often chefs make these as well, since it's the first thing they do before adding in new stuff.
It won't take time, it'll take a miracle. The X1 has been released more than eight months ago. The peak interest in the device has come and gone, panels have failed.
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Well, so much for panels. I'll be sure to ask Rotastrain regarding that, I most definitely prefer seeing a list of upcoming appointments rather than seeing it a day before or having to go into the somewhat confusing calendar to look for stuff.
ROM-Wise, I guess I'll be going for the Touch-IT v10.3 one till the beta one is done.
Looks like I'm pretty much done, unless I can think of any more questions I likely forgot.
Thank you for answering all my questions.
Mopral said:
To increase the volume, you can try what you can find here
A new version of touch-it with WM 6.5 should come shortly (it is in betatesting)
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That .CAB file works perfectly! Loud and clear!
Thank you so much.
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Hello all,
I've been reading both threads, and so far it seems to me that udK's ROM is very fast, and Vivi's is stable and has fixed the camera.
For those of you who have tested the new Diamond ROMs from udK and Vivi, what do you think?
Which one seems to be faster, stable, etc?
yvopt said:
Hello all,
I've been reading both threads, and so far it seems to me that udK's ROM is very fast, and Vivi's is stable and has fixed the camera.
For those of you who have tested the new Diamond ROMs from udK and Vivi, what do you think?
Which one seems to be faster, stable, etc?
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Fast & Stable + Camera fixed for good = ViVi
Still need to test the Video playback via TCMP player...
Thank you for the feedback, Jibreil. I'm going to flash with Vivi's ROM later. Haven't tried any from him/her yet.
Anyone else wants to comment on these 2 latest ROMs?
Using the RSS app I downloaded some video podcasts in wmv format. On EVERY rom I have tried they play jerky and are totally unwatchable.
I am now downloading the latest VIVI and will test vid performance once flashed
This made no sense not to post
be_vigilant said:
Using the RSS app I downloaded some video podcasts in wmv format. On EVERY rom I have tried they play jerky and are totally unwatchable.
I am now downloading the latest VIVI and will test vid performance once flashed
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What are you using to play the video? What format is the video?
I'm watching PC-formatted DivX videoes (i.e. not optimized for 320x200) with CorePlayer on my Cruise with no jerking.
If you download videos in HD format and try to view them using media player etc no wonder they jerk.
Yeah the bitrate from the video podcast is pretty high. Not sure if its a HD bitrate however.
The format is in WMV. I was just assuming that a podcast should be able to be played on the Polaris. I guess the bitrate is a little too high for it.
I think this thread would have been better served to be a 'What ROM+RADIO configuration works best for you?' I highly doubt these guys are here to compete for who has the best ROM, and everyone has different needs from their phone.
I definitely applaud anyone who releases a ROM, because I can personally say this website and forum is the only reason why I buy HTC phones. The ROMs and upgrades people put out here make these phones great.
My Polaris is being shipped to me as we speak, so I've been looking around to see what ROMs I'd try out and what not. It seems to be an exciting week with drivers being talked about and pieces of the Diamond ROM making it over to the Cruise.
So.. Yeah.
My purpose is not for them to compete, like a Poll I posted last week. The main purpose here is for people to discuss why they like more one or the other, so the Cookers can see comparisons and try to correct what they see fit.
I also give props to every cooker around, it's not easy to cook a ROM, and surely isn't easy to make everyone satisfied I would love to know how to cook them, but I just can't... at least for now. Because it's not only just putting applications together, after comes the questions.
I would like to see some cookers discussing here too, it's in their best interest at least to read comparisons to other ROMs. I think On the other hand, if the cookers don't like these kind of threads, I'll be happy not to post them. I don't want to see no one competing here, it's really NOT about that.
yvopt said:
My purpose is not for them to compete, like a Poll I posted last week. The main purpose here is for people to discuss why they like more one or the other, so the Cookers can see comparisons and try to correct what they see fit.
I also give props to every cooker around, it's not easy to cook a ROM, and surely isn't easy to make everyone satisfied I would love to know how to cook them, but I just can't... at least for now. Because it's not only just putting applications together, after comes the questions.
I would like to see some cookers discussing here too, it's in their best interest at least to read comparisons to other ROMs. I think On the other hand, if the cookers don't like these kind of threads, I'll be happy not to post them. I don't want to see no one competing here, it's really NOT about that.
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I agree with this type of thread. As a "consumer" of these roms, it would be great to see a consolidated pro vs con of each in discussion.
halorin said:
I think this thread would have been better served to be a 'What ROM+RADIO configuration works best for you?' I highly doubt these guys are here to compete for who has the best ROM, and everyone has different needs from their phone.
I definitely applaud anyone who releases a ROM, because I can personally say this website and forum is the only reason why I buy HTC phones. The ROMs and upgrades people put out here make these phones great.
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100% agree
So am I!!!!!
halorin said:
' I highly doubt these guys are here to compete for who has the best ROM, and everyone has different needs from their phone.
I definitely applaud anyone who releases a ROM, because I can personally say this website and forum is the only reason why I buy HTC phones. The ROMs and upgrades people put out here make these phones great.
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Amen to that comment, you nailed it!
I do see this as an competition but I see it as 'better choices' for me and people like me, who enjoy phones.
Its like the Price Club for HTC ROMS.
I am so torn. I want to upgrade the ROM for my P3650 but I am on the fence. I have always upgraded my previous HTC ROMs but I also always had a reason to do so. Now with this phone, its mostly for aesthetics and not really to better the phone (in my opinion).
Either way, they both look great and I greatly appreciate the positive and negative feedback, with will both help sway me in the direction of upgrading eventually.
I agree. There's always been a reason to uprade phones in the past, such as the 8525 when when ATT was very late in releasing a wm6 rom. But now with the Cruise there hasn't been much of a reason to. WM6.1 isn't all that, and no ROM out there is really adding new functionality or better video performance, etc. So stock ROM is working out fine with tweaks. For these 2 ROMs in the subject line, I'm now watching the feedback on both to determine my next flashing move.
I agree with Maevro and Hambola. While I think it would be fun to go to a Diamond ROM from Udk or Vivi, I just don't have the inclination to re-do everything (over 30 apps), and customize settings again, for very minor improvements. Furthermore, it does seem like there are issues with each cut, and even though guys like Udk and Vivi are pretty quick to release another revision, I just don't want to keep re-doing everything over and over again .
Yeah I got my Cruise just the way I like it, save for some quirks here or there, would take me forever to redo all that. So flashing a ROM has to be for some substantial change.
I just got my Touch HD this week and so far am really enjoying it. I was sceptical about getting it due to disliking the TyTnII, but everything seems to run great in comparison so far.
I am still fairly new to WM and so learning the ropes ATM. Both my biggest criticism and greatest positive of WM is that there is so much software available. This does seem to pose a problem though, in that it is a complete lottery as to where to find it, what some of it does and if it will work with your specific device! I'm trying to find out what 'must haves' everyone else is using but it is proving difficult a bit of a mine field.
Now that we have the HD, we also have the problem of whether it is compatible with that huge screen!. Can people post what software they use and perhaps a brief explanation of what it does and how it helps/betters the standard/non existent software? This might be really useful for n00bs like me to refer to when they get their device. I know it can be fun installing random stuff for a while, but it can also become tiring when stuff doesn't do what you need! I did look in the Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD ...which is great, but if you don't know what stuff does, how do you know you need/want it?!
I've not installed much yet but here are a few useful ones...
Total Commander - Better file manager.
CorePlayer - Playing divx etc videos.
Sprite Backup - Backup.
PocketScreen - Take screenshots.
Weather Database Editor - Had to install this to add the town I live in as it's not in the default list (requires .NET compact framework 3.5 available from MS).
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I just got my Touch HD this week and so far am really enjoying it. I was sceptical about getting it due to disliking the TyTnII, but everything seems to run great in comparison so far.
I am still fairly new to WM and so learning the ropes ATM. Both my biggest criticism and greatest positive of WM is that there is so much software available. This does seem to pose a problem though, in that it is a complete lottery as to where to find it, what some of it does and if it will work with your specific device! I'm trying to find out what 'must haves' everyone else is using but it is proving difficult a bit of a mine field.
Now that we have the HD, we also have the problem of whether it is compatible with that huge screen!. Can people post what software they use and perhaps a brief explanation of what it does and how it helps/betters the standard/non existent software? This might be really useful for n00bs like me to refer to when they get their device. I know it can be fun installing random stuff for a while, but it can also become tiring when stuff doesn't do what you need! I did look in the Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD ...which is great, but if you don't know what stuff does, how do you know you need/want it?!
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Besides the topic you mention above, there are also topics:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444814
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445543
Beards
Thanks so far guys. Thanks in particular for the other threads. Even with said threads, it is still a mine field IMO.
Hey everybody,
I'm extremely new to the community and have recently found myself the proud parent of a baby T-Mobile Wing. There is so much helpful information on this site, but it is so hard to sort it all out. Right now I am running SPB Shell and am digging on it, yet I crave more. I like the layout of SPB Shell, but would love to be able to take better advantage of touch options (scrolling, contacts, internet, etc). What could be done to get these options? I've read about Open Touch, and there seem to be mixed reviews. Is it possible to still have SPB Shell and a program that offers better use of the touch screen?
Also, what are some applications that you Wing users are fond of? I am using VTouch, Google Maps, and an SNES emulator. Are there other things I should know about? Radio, a pizza maker maybe?
Thanks so much.
I'm still very new here too, but my advice is download everything you can find on this site and try it! The cooks are AMAZING and I'm now doing things with my wing that i never thought was possible.
Download a kitchen and play with it. But only after flashing and playing with all the roms that are available so you know what you want out of a rom.
start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
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Hey everybody,
I'm extremely new to the community and have recently found myself the proud parent of a baby T-Mobile Wing. There is so much helpful information on this site, but it is so hard to sort it all out. Right now I am running SPB Shell and am digging on it, yet I crave more. I like the layout of SPB Shell, but would love to be able to take better advantage of touch options (scrolling, contacts, internet, etc). What could be done to get these options? I've read about Open Touch, and there seem to be mixed reviews. Is it possible to still have SPB Shell and a program that offers better use of the touch screen?
Also, what are some applications that you Wing users are fond of? I am using VTouch, Google Maps, and an SNES emulator. Are there other things I should know about? Radio, a pizza maker maybe?
Thanks so much.
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The best way that I found to learn about my Wing is to screw it up several times and then learn how to fix it. I've made pretty much every mistake you can make with it when it comes to flashing ROMs. Every time I've found a thread on here to save me when I was inches away from throwing it in the trash can.
There's definitely not one overall "best" or "favorite" ROM. Personally I'm a fan of Ivan's JustMe because it has pretty much everything I use so I don't need to install anything on top of what's cooked in, and Just2Clean because, as the name implies, it really IS clean. But you really just need to get several, take them out for test drives (at least a week), and see which one suits you best. I've gotten ROMs before that I thought after a couple of hours were perfect for me, and then a few days later I realized a couple of annoying tiny things that made me reconsider. That's why it's ultimately best to cook your own. As soon as I get brave enough, that's my next step!
I personally don't take as much advantage of the touch screen as I should, so I'm not the best person to advise on that, but you should definitely spend a long time reading just about every post in the ROM review thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
The Wing isn't built to support radio natively, but I use Internet radio a lot. www.thestreamcenter.com is the place I usually use. It's good if you know the call letters you're looking for. It was invaluable when I had to work during football games.
As far as a pizza maker goes, I have actually dropped my Wing on a piping hot, gooey pizza before. I do not recommend it. Sometimes I swear I can still smell oregano.
Some essential CABs I use no matter which ROM I'm currently using:
BatteryStatus
Total Commander
TCPMP
WM5torage
Opera Mini
Oxios Hibernate
PIM Backup
Again, though, everyone has their faves (even if they don't use MyFaves!).
Definitely start here though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
You may find some outdated apps in the links from that thread, but they'll at least hip you to the more commonly-used ones so you can look for the latest versions on your own.
Above all, don't be afraid to ask questions (after making good use of the "Search this Forum" button, of course)! I have posted several questions that I was embarrassed to be asking, but everyone on this site is incredibly knowledgeable and supportive.
I wonder how many people will agree with me. I have spent the last several months playing around with different ROMs -- both 6.1 and now 6.5. I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM (I admit that I have 20-odd programs and lots of tweaking to do which I cannot automise) and have decided that this is really a waste of time. I am neglecting ACTUALLY WORKING on my phone (I have several projects going; one is compiling a dictionary). My family has also suffered from lack of attention. I find that when I wake up, the first thing on my mind is: Is there a new ROM for me to download today?
So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5. I think this is the way forward for me. Of course, I just might give in to temptation as the ROMs get better -- who knows? And I will always be grateful to the cooks.
I wonder how many people would agree with what I have just written; would love to read your comments... Thanks
I fully agree with you. I haven't used a single cooked ROM yet, still I have a lot to do with finding the right software for my phone, installing it, uninstalling it again, adjusting the settings, etc. It consumes a LOOOT of time and it definitely has a great impact on my life at this time. Hope that I will have everything I need soon
I would agree if the new roms brought nothing to the table but after using itje's 4.5 rom i can't say i agree. That was just a spectacular development.
I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
doministry said:
I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
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I couldn't have said it better.
Klaus1960 said:
For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5.
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Where did you get a calculator from 6.5? I'm looking for a nice free calculator and that sounds nice
Beside, I agree with you, I think it will coast a lot of time, I didn't install a custom ROM and I'll wait for the official R3AA Rom, I think the custom ROMs are great, and I'm a lot browsing through the threads, but I do need a lot of time...
I agree with you.
I have tried most of the english ROMs for X1. And i tell you the best ROM is the official generic ones(generic UK in my case)
Almost all the cuztom roms out now have problems, little bugs here and there. I like Jacks ROMs best, because he always tries to perfect his ROM. Even the little enhancment tweaks which are posted here, they are not worth it.
Just stick with the official stuff and use the product that are made good developers (like HTC and SPB)
I for one am pretty happy with the nX1i ROM. Its lite and works like a charm.
But yea...its pretty darn annoying to have to install everything back into the device.
Klaus1960 said:
I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM.
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5 hours? Did you use UC to automate the install process? I had UC for almost everything (e.g. software install, software registration w/ registry or file copying, shortcut moving, customization ....etc) and it take about 20 mins and require no attention. It may take some time beforehand for UC, but worth it since the one time process will work for any UC custom rom w/ any device (w/ minor change) in the long run.
Klaus1960 said:
So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff
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Isn't that you are doing the same thing except it's just on a stock rom (and no UC to automate yr process)?
I am not either a flashing fun.
I ve had 2 WM phones b4 (MIO & ETEN) with very buggy official ROMs. And a good custom ROM could give tones of added value at these old times.
But with X1 things are different. The latest version of the official ROM is quite good. Not any serious issues.
A good reason to flash a custom rom could be if u like Manila (which I don't)
ATM, I am using nX1i which is actually same as the official, except some junks removed and some newer version apps and I am very happy with it.
HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
Follow me on twitter to stay updated. WMPerson
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Complete/Received Thanks for the donation
ROM In Progress, First ROM created Now fixing bugs.... And improving it
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: I think within 2 weeks, but that's just me!
about t01a
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?
where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look
bird_9527 said:
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?
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T01A Rom may be have a little bit difference from TG01 Rom ,so we need cedesmith release a tgtool version for japanese rom or need cedesmith release source code of tgtool and some one can modify it ,after that we can use it for japanese rom.
The japanese rom file has a tsd (toshiba docomo) extension not tsw(toshiba worldwide) extension. http://update.toshibamobile.com/upda..._SP50_wm65.exe
a_petrov303 said:
where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look
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There are you have BUUGGS post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631509
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
adzman808 said:
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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Yes please !
But i'm sure some optimizations could be done!
Moreover, it would be so great to have sense ui and all htc's programs working on our phone!
We just have to wait now!
as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.
What do we expect from a cooked ROM?
jeams said:
as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.
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I start:
I agree with the htc g-sensor emulation plus:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
- Null (or leave as an option) the screen off when calling
- Add essential camera features as White balance
What do you think?
the best thing would be if there are two kind of rom....
one fully equiped and one clean rom....
the fully equiped rom should have sense and other htc apps and some little tweaks like 1ghz or hd2 driver patch...also we have to focus the ram usage and the free memory....i think that are the major things..
the clear version have to be very very fast and with a lot of free ram!!!
also i think we could remove all unusefull toshiba stuff like wifi-app or the stripes menu....no one uses these apps!!!
20% lbattery imitation needs totally scapped i agree there
adzman808 said:
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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there are still problems in connection to pre-2005 BMW Bluetooth ULF - car kit
Pere said:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
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+bluetooth cannot be started if the battery is under 20%
Wen(WM) said:
HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Paid & Complete
ROM In Progress, Awaiting Device
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: Uknown
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Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
InsertNameHere said:
Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
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be patient
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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+1000 well said, totally agree!
adzman808 said:
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POSTED IN 2 THREADS COS I'M NOT SURE THE FIRST ONE WAS THE CORRECT ONE!
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
kevinpwhite said:
Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
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I agree as well. Only add that we need as a start point a Clean ROM but not only without the typical brand trash, also the stupid Toshiba limitations (20% battery and so on).
Come on!