If you want to connect to your work email (i.e. MS Exchange) with Telstra you have to use Activesync and what they call the Windows Mobile Email Solution. This is by way of an extra fee for a Email Pack (costs between $0-$40 depending on your call plan). This option then allows you unlimited email (or at least until you get to 1gig) provided it is through Activesync and Ms Exchange (i.e not POP or IMAP). It seems that Telstra route the Activesync data usage through a specific APN to that used for internet browsing (which you pay for separately). Presumably, this is set up in the Tesltra Rom that the HD2 comes with (in the form of the Dedicated line used for access in the Activesync settings on the phone). My concern is that if I flash my rom with any non-Telstra rom, these settings will be lost and if I used Activesync with standard Internet access (through telstra.internet APN), I may get a hefty bill at the month. Does anyone know what settings Tesltra uses for Activesync and if one could use those settings on a generic Rom? In addition, if Activesync will work through the telstra.internet APN, a plain Internet pack for $19 for 1 Gig is better value than the Email Pack (most users wouldn't used that much for email in a month). However, I'm not sure if Activesync will work on Telstra other than through its chosen route (Activesync requires the network operator to allow a connection to stay open for up to 30 minutes with no traffic). I've tried to find out from Tesltra what the settings are: all they would tell me is that any flash (even from HTC) will void my warranty!
Work email
Just connect directly to your Exchange server and dont worry about the Telstra bloat. All you need is a normal data pack, and hook up to your Exchange server (either via Active Sync or on the email tab). Don't pay for the extra email thing.
Regardless of the ROM, it will auto configure when it detects Telstra.
That's all you need. I'm with Telstra and regularly flash cooked ROMs.
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Just connect directly to your Exchange server and dont worry about the Telstra bloat.
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Nah the problem is that the exchange e-mail the OP is talking about is a product/service Telstra offers which on any other phone requires you to set an APN different to Telstra.Internet or Telstra.WAP etc. It has the same functionality execpt that it acts as a VPN/Proxy for the exchange server connection.
I was previously using this on an iPhone without issue but cannot get it working on my HD2 as the carrier ROM won't let you change the APN.
I haven't tried it yet, but I'd assume that with any other ROM you'd set the default APN to telstra.<custom_name> and everything including exchange activesync would work.
I've always just used the normal telstra.wap APN for connection to my Exchange server.
But one thing I have found is that Activesync doesn't like keeping a connection alive if using the recommended proxy servers (150.1.181.* from memory).
So for the HD2 the preconfigured "Telstra Internet" gives me grief whereas using "My ISP" with only the telstra.wap APN and no proxy servers works fine. The difference in battery life is very noticeable as the phone is not constantly trying to maintain a connection.
the telstra website seems to suggest that the Email Pack allows access through a special route which is optimised for battery life and has been developed with Microsoft. I am guessing that these settings allow the phone to stay connected to the Excahnge server longer than Telstra would otherwise allow (when data goes through the usual internet APN).
It is really frustrating that Telstra can't/won't explain how it all works.
The pricing also makes me suspect that the Email Pack is a bit of a rip-off: if you don't choose to add it to the business mobile plus pack, you get 600MB of free data in your pack. If you choose the Email Pack, you have to pay an extra $20 and then your internet data (i.e. non-email) is reduced to 100MB. Which then means you have to add a 1Gig Data Pack (in case you use more than 100MB and get rorted with the Telstra excess data rates).
It would be really nice if Telstra was more open as to why this Email Pack is worth paying an extra $20 for.
I suspect the reason they are not is because it is a bit of a rip-off.
sounds a bit dodgy to me, letting your network operator become an active link in your work email chain.don't think I'd like o2 to be anything more than a blind data carrier for my works stuff.
Even downloading all e-mails in HTML with attachments and doing light web browsing I don't use more than 100-200MB a month so it isn't really an issue for me as I just buy enough prepaid datapacks.
When I got rid of the proxy servers I expected to have problems connecting to web sites and service but haven't had any dramas. I assume the special e-mail route bypasses any proxy servers and is optimised for exchange server push email traffic. But it does seem like premium pricing for the privilege.
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Can someone tell me if they have been able to configure the XDA II Blackberry to work with TMO in the US? Is this even possible...
No I dont think so yet. Uless you can connect to the UK blackberry enterprise server. You might want to go to their website find that link and set it up there. It might work anywhere your phone is (i.e. if you are a business travel) The US Blackberry webclient is set up right now only for Blackberry decvices right now i belive. Also the current server set up does not alllow picture transfer. Limmited file trypes. only word, excel, powerpoint i belive. Blackberry has always been weak in the attachment department. I think this is the reson you dont really see it on the handheld side yet. Im not sure what O2 UK has cooked up or if they are running the newest implimwntation of the Blackberry enterprise server. But where ever you are to get a @o2.blackberry.com or @tmo.blackberry.com address and store and forward someone has to have the BB server, and have it configured to support the device type you have.
In the mean time some interesting things.
1. the Webclient service ONLY pushes mail to your device every 15 minutes. So nothing more special then the PPC can do already. You can set your device to poll for new messages every 15 minutes. (I think in the end the BB webclient implimentation is going to be a let down, nothing new, nothing special, just something, more to sell you.)
2. If you are a member of ClubImate sign up for clubmail. You'll get access to an echange server that can be set up on the device side to get your mail as it arrives. Basicly the same thing as BB except its sync'd not just dumped onto your device for safe keeping like BB.
Just an FYI.
Unfortunatly the most stable solution I have used so far is the HP iPAQ 6315 mail trigger system. Seems to work the most reliably over all the others. The big downer is it costs SMS charges everytime you get an email, is near impossible to port to a non-iPAQ6315,
but works flawlessly.
Yes you can if your SIM is blackberry enabled. ie. If you currently have a corp blackberry device, you can take the SIM out and pop in into a XDA II with blackberry connect installed. I'm receiving Corp and bwc e-mails on my XDAII updated with the latest O2 firmware xx.181. You need to download the balckberry configuration software from O2 or search the forum as some kind soul uploaded the software here. For corp e-mail, you need to have connection to exchange server and chnage the PIN number of the device since it is based on your IMEI.
Good luck!
David
Thanks David.
I have 1.7xx.181 with Blackberry Software installed. I have a Blackberry SIM.
How do I get the PIN Changed?
Finally got it working...
The only problem I have is that the outgoing mail... It goes through the device hits my Corporate Lotus Notes but doesnt reach the recipient..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=68068#68068
This is the thread with bbconfig files for lotus notes and exchange. Check to see if you have the service books on your XDA II. Did you have blackberry functionality via notes before?
May be your IT poeple hard coded the blackberry PIN to your account
Managed to get BlackBerry functionality running on my XDA2. I call it now XDA2Berry...
Quick questions I am hoping someone can help with :
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Thanks & Best Regards
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
Not currenttly possible. Tasks, events and contacts ability will apparently be there for XDA when BES 4 is released
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
No, but I too would love to know!
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Same for me I think it's not currently possible for that - I did ask.
Thanks for your kind reply. Any idea when BES4 is coming out? Regards
I am wondering whether push email is functioning through wifi on the prophet? I have wifi coverage over my city, and would prefer it then getting billed for GPRS...
Push Email client from Microsoft will not work over WiFi, it is meant to generate business for mobile providers
But Siemens and other mail server solutions companies offer push email over WiFi for WiFi Providers - but I think no one is offering it yet.
Note: Be carefull with push email over GRPS. Depending on individual settings this can generate a lot of traffic without downloading a single email. One engineer told me about 15 megs traffic just for polling the Exchange server, without downloading a single email. Of course you can work out conservative settings, but better get a GPRS or UMTS data flat...25 euros here in Germany (www.base.de)
Are you 100% sure of this?
Microsoft's implimentation of Push e-mail uses HTTP(S) so therefore should not be limited to the transport unless the implimentation is restricted on the device in some way?
All the information I have totally contradicts your statement, can you please justify it can as I fear it is absolutely incorrect.
Dear, I don´t have to "justify" anything. Do your own research, ask Microsoft MSDN like I did, and then write about it. Enjoy.
PS: The original question was - as I understood it: Can MS push email client for Mobile 5 work over WiFi.
Why you do not use POP3/SMTP or IMAP through WiFi ?
Thanks guys
Thanks Lucas, I think that pretty much answers my question.
Cheers.
You can setup a schedule like i did in activesync to poll email over wifi every 5 min and disable push.
If you want to use gprs, then just change schedule to sync as new items arrive and enable push in comm manager
What happens when out of wifi range?
Jamichy, what happens if you go out of wifi range with your settings? Do you get an error message or something you then need to respond to each time you are out of range?
Usually, activesync will try to sync, but does not generate any notifications. If I launch activesync, it shows me the time of last sync with exchange server on top line.
If i leave push settings on, and connect to wlan, Activesync Generates an "Attention Required:To syncronise you need to have a cellular network connection" message...
So when I'm at home or work, i disable push, and on the road i keep push enabled. BTW, Direct push can work using both GPRS web and wap settings
nooblet here ...I did a search but did not find a comprehensize guide to telling me all of the types of email options I have So I Was hoping some one would be so kind enough to explain to this me.
Xpress mail from cingular ...umm you just add in all your email accounts to it and it send it out ?
Direct Push ( new from Microsoft ...have to have exchange server up)
Data ( some reason I like this ... I have the unlimited media works package and I get unlimited data ...so I have my email IMAP'ed and set to check ever 10 minutes) it uses data connection ..but I have unlimited so I dont care...
I really dont see why people would want the direct push as apposed to the data ...any way some one can explain all the options a person has with some pro's and cons of each ?
Thanks
Data is just a data plan that you purchase for Cingula, similar to purchasing minutes for your voice calls. It has nothing to do with email. Without the unlimited data plan though you'd get hit with a whopping big bill.
IMAP4 is an email protocol that leaves a copy of your messages on your server and downloads the headers, making it faster than POP3 and easier to manage IMO.
Direct Push requires an Exchange 2003 or later server and is what makes this device a true Crackberry Killer. IMAP4 and POP3 are polling email clients that one configures to check their mailbox on a periodic basis. Direct Push enables our emails to be pushed out to the device whenever the server receives a new email. In addition our Calendar, Tasks and of course Contacts are also synced in realtime.
Hope I was of some help.
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nooblet here ...I did a search but did not find a comprehensize guide to telling me all of the types of email options I have So I Was hoping some one would be so kind enough to explain to this me.
Xpress mail from cingular ...umm you just add in all your email accounts to it and it send it out ?
Direct Push ( new from Microsoft ...have to have exchange server up)
Data ( some reason I like this ... I have the unlimited media works package and I get unlimited data ...so I have my email IMAP'ed and set to check ever 10 minutes) it uses data connection ..but I have unlimited so I dont care...
I really dont see why people would want the direct push as apposed to the data ...any way some one can explain all the options a person has with some pro's and cons of each ?
Thanks
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Direct Push is great for people who are running Exchange, as new messages are queued up and copied over to your device automatically, as opposed to POP3 or IMAP where your device polls the mail server periodically for new E-mail.
Its whatever you prefer... direct push is mainly intended for companies who want to ensure employees get internal E-mail. Also, with the Microsoft Messaging and Security Feature Pack which comes on some new Windows Mobile 5 devices, companies can push out policies to the devices, for example requiring a password of x character length, 15 min timeout, hard reset device if wrong password typed in more than x amount of times, and other items, which makes IT and auditors able to sleep at night.
I personally use POP3 over SSL. It doesn't "guarentee" that E-mail winds up on the phone, but since I'm not doing anything business-critical, that is OK for my needs. Your needs/wants may be different, though. If you absolutely have to have mail on your phone due to clients and mission critical information, you might see about an Exchange hosted provider.
Pros of Direct push: Syncing of contact info (like the above poster stated), "Guarenteed" E-mail on your phone, security policies enforced, ability to remotely wipe your device should it get lost or stolen (assuming the thief hasn't yanked your SIM card and swapped his in.)
Cons of Direct Push: Need Exchange Server 2003 SP2 to access the features of it, so you need to run Exchange on a machine that is on the Internet, or use an Exchange hosted provider. HP offers this service for around $15-$20 a month.
Pros of POP3/IMAP: Internet standards, straightforward.
Cons of POP3/IMAP: Insecure unless your ISP allows for the use of SSL, no "guarentee" that E-mail winds up onto your phone.
wow cool
so I guess for me I will stick to my data plan. I just wish Cingular had a faster data serivce and better coverage .
THANKS a bunch !
Cingular is actually rolling out 3G service and they claim it will fully be implemented by the end of the year (hopefully!)
I've been using the Push Mail function since it was released ... which is really a good alternative to a CrackBerry though it still need more development say at least 2 more years before if could be considered a real competition to the CrackBerry. ... (i hate these ugly so called devices - blackberry)
you can actually get an exchange service for 10 bucks a month for a mailbox which isn't bad. The advantage of getting an exchange mailbox is the just mere fact you can have a "synchronized" mailbox on your mail application (on your laptop or desktop ... even on a Mac which i have set up), on the webmail and obviously on your pocket pc. i like the functionality of using this over POP because the synchronization is real time and there is not dependancy on locally sync-ing your device on your laptop/desktop just to update your contacts and your calendar.
POP3 doesn't give you that synchronization and if you like to have ALL FOLDERs synchronized ... getting the 10 Bucks a month exchange service is well worth it.
Obviously push mail services are designed for the business user and powerusers ....if you don't need this then don't even think the higher end pocket pc's available ....
US Carriers are so slow on selling higher end PDAs and phones ... the selections on T-Mobile and Cingular suck ... how can you accept that they just released their versions of the HTC Wizard while several flavors of the HTC Hermes are now available ... Cingular and T-Mobile USA should also think about adding BlackBerry Connect on their devices just like everybody else in the non-american world ....
Note that IMAP can also be used (in most cases) in a "Push" form. The "IMAP IDLE" function establishes a connection and waits for new messages to arrive, at which time they are immediately announced to the device. Extremely handy when properly implemented. You need a compatible client, of course. Apparently the latest test builds of FlexMail will handle this, though I have not tried them yet.
Our company is paying Cingular $5 per month per user for the Push Mail service over and above the unlimited data plan. We have been told not to use it while roaming (even in Canada) as it will cost us a fortune. But, the push mail seems to be very robust and per IT, it was very easy to setup and ofcourse the phone needs to be upgraded to the latest ROM available on the cingular site.
Cingular's charging for Push Mail? ... That would only happen if Cingular is also maintaining your exchange server. If you have your own Exchange server it should be fine.
I've never paid above my unlimited internet access feature.
How come no one has mentioned mail2web.com Live. This is exchange push email that is free. You just forward your email to their server and set your mail settings in Active Sync from the mail2web site.
I have been using it for six weeks and it is great. Sometimes I get the email before I can get it on outlook.
mail2web.com looks good but i just talked to them and if you have your personal domain name (like i do), it would cost you the same price as the other exchange services out there ... the free version and the personal exchange options do not support personal domains.
sorry i'm a geek through and through ... he he he
C
Hello,
This may be a strange question, but how do you guys switch SMTP servers? I'd like to access the same mailbox over different connections (gprs, 2 different wifi). Reading mails is not an issue.
But for sending them, I need a different SMTP server for each of the connections (as I suspect everybody does). On my symbian phone, I could change the sending options of a mail, and one of the options is the mail-account used to send it. But this is not possible on the built in Outlook.
How do you guys do it?
(I'm planning to use QMail, which does support changing the account by which a mail is sent; but to make it more comfortable I also am working on a MortScript to change account settings when I want. There were some certificate issues in configuring QMail, but I think I solved it. The reason switching is important to me, is that my GPRS subscription has a volume limit, above which I have to pay extra. So if I can use an alternate connection, I prefer this.)
Jörg
V J said:
Hello,
This may be a strange question, but how do you guys switch SMTP servers? I'd like to access the same mailbox over different connections (gprs, 2 different wifi). Reading mails is not an issue.
But for sending them, I need a different SMTP server for each of the connections (as I suspect everybody does). On my symbian phone, I could change the sending options of a mail, and one of the options is the mail-account used to send it. But this is not possible on the built in Outlook.
How do you guys do it?
(I'm planning to use QMail, which does support changing the account by which a mail is sent; but to make it more comfortable I also am working on a MortScript to change account settings when I want. There were some certificate issues in configuring QMail, but I think I solved it. The reason switching is important to me, is that my GPRS subscription has a volume limit, above which I have to pay extra. So if I can use an alternate connection, I prefer this.)
Jörg
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Exactly the same q was aksed either here or some other PPC forum some days ago.
My answer (I pretty much know everything about mailer clients and internal database / file formats - see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) is as follows: just switch your Qmail config files (the one that contains the SMTP server) from, say, a Mort script and restart Qmail.
If your mail server supports SMTP Auth, u don't need to do anything.
In the config pages, click on "my outgoing server requires authentication" then click on "use same settings as incomming"
Should solve the problem IF the smtp supports authentication.
Menneisyys:
Yes, that was my post (sorry, I should have linked to that particular thread). I'm just wondering if I'm the only one finding this a huge issue. Either way, I'm writing scripts as we speak (couldn't have done it without you referring to QMail). I also like to show on the today-screen which "smtp-profile" is active (found some ways of doing this too), and while I'm at it the script will also change PIE settings (not load images on gprs, load images on wifi). I'll make the necessary steps (along with the scripts and required softwares) in some tutorial, for reference.
(I had some issues with QMail, but I needed to add the certificate for my servers first).
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If your mail server supports SMTP Auth, u don't need to do anything.
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Yes, but neither my mobile operator, nor my work, nor my analog dialup provider (still need it) support smtp authoring... Come to think of it, I could always set up a VPN to my work, which will allow me to use their mail server (but the VPN is also traffic limited, and sometimes VERY slow)...
Jörg
V J said:
Menneisyys:
Yes, that was my post (sorry, I should have linked to that particular thread). I'm just wondering if I'm the only one finding this a huge issue. Either way, I'm writing scripts as we speak (couldn't have done it without you referring to QMail). I also like to show on the today-screen which "smtp-profile" is active (found some ways of doing this too), and while I'm at it the script will also change PIE settings (not load images on gprs, load images on wifi). I'll make the necessary steps (along with the scripts and required softwares) in some tutorial, for reference.
(I had some issues with QMail, but I needed to add the certificate for my servers first).
Yes, but neither my mobile operator, nor my work, nor my analog dialup provider (still need it) support smtp authoring... Come to think of it, I could always set up a VPN to my work, which will allow me to use their mail server (but the VPN is also traffic limited, and sometimes VERY slow)...
Jörg
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Did you finally manage to achieve with something useful ... ? I'm in the same situation and looking for something easy to use to switch from one SMTP to another depending on the channel used (3g or Wifi).
Unfortunately, no...
My current solution is to use my work server: it requires me to set up a VPN first and then log on to it. When doing so, I can use it from anywhere; it works but is far from efficient (starting the VPN takes some time).
I thought of using a windows mobile program to have the equivalent of the hosts file in Windows (this is a small hackers trick: configure the software with a dummy name, and use the hosts file to have this resolve to the IP address you want), but it doesn't allow for easy switching, particularly as I needed a logon for one server. If you need this hosts utility, I should search for it (let me know if you need it); but it doesn't make switching that much easier from changing the settings in the mail client.
A possibility could be to use QMail as the mail client, but this is not possible for me due to some security settings I need (it never could download the mail bodies).
Jörg
Did the Mortscript avenue not pan out? I would of thought this would be something that it could easily solve.
Yes, but apparently the SMTP server settings are not stored in the registry, but in the outlook file which holds the account settings.
Editing this file is possible (founds some references on it), but generally not recommended as it easily is corrupted.
Jörg
gmail's servers?
V J said:
Yes, but apparently the SMTP server settings are not stored in the registry, but in the outlook file which holds the account settings.
Editing this file is possible (founds some references on it), but generally not recommended as it easily is corrupted.
Jörg
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can't you just setup a gmail account, enable it for POP access, and use their provided SMTP server with your gmail username/password? leave incoming via POP on your existing one...
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Unfortunately, no...
My current solution is to use my work server: it requires me to set up a VPN first and then log on to it. When doing so, I can use it from anywhere; it works but is far from efficient (starting the VPN takes some time).
I thought of using a windows mobile program to have the equivalent of the hosts file in Windows (this is a small hackers trick: configure the software with a dummy name, and use the hosts file to have this resolve to the IP address you want), but it doesn't allow for easy switching, particularly as I needed a logon for one server. If you need this hosts utility, I should search for it (let me know if you need it); but it doesn't make switching that much easier from changing the settings in the mail client.
A possibility could be to use QMail as the mail client, but this is not possible for me due to some security settings I need (it never could download the mail bodies).
Jörg
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Well ... no thanks ... I'd like very much to have something easy to use ...
It is like to make sure that when wifi is available than use wifi and drop GPRS.
We can then easily imagine that knowing about an available existing Wifi network, the soft should be able to automatically modify the smtp server accordingly, switching back to "normal" when out of the coverage of the WIFI network ... not really a big deal for good programmer, a trip to the moon for me ...
thanks anyway for your proposal ... wait and see what clever people will bring to us
landwomble said:
can't you just setup a gmail account, enable it for POP access, and use their provided SMTP server with your gmail username/password? leave incoming via POP on your existing one...
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That wasn't an option for me: my incoming mailserver requires a VPN connection (when using the wifi at work). I think that some internet traffic over the VPN is blocked, preventing me from accessing another SMTP server.
DR400 said:
We can then easily imagine that knowing about an available existing Wifi network, the soft should be able to automatically modify the smtp server accordingly, switching back to "normal" when out of the coverage of the WIFI network ... not really a big deal for good programmer, a trip to the moon for me ...
thanks anyway for your proposal ... wait and see what clever people will bring to us
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Hehe...
The easiest thing would be something more userfriendly that exploits the possibiliy of using the "hosts" file to alter the IP address of the SMTP server (this is how most of the network switching tools on laptops do it). The downside to this approach is that you cannot change logon settings. In order to do this, they need to be able adjust the settings in the mailclient; either via some interface (not sure this is available), or by altering the configuration file.
Jörg
The gmail route absolutely works for me - no mucking about with scripts etc. I followed this link (http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php)
only difference is that the smtp is [email protected]. Follow the instructions to set up gmail with your primary address and bingo.
Robert
Hello,
If I connect via wap.cingular (my account cannot connect on isp.cingular) I am having major issues using outlook web access, rapidshare, and a few other web apps. this is apparently due to ATT rolling my IP address every few seconds.
If I go on my phone (HTC FUZE/RAPHAEL) to http://whatismyip.com/ and refresh the page a few times, I get a different IP almost every time. it is always in the same subnet, so far (only the last numbers change ie, aaa.bbb.ccc.xxx, where xxx changes all the time, and a, b, and c, don't).
I use a huge load of data. Have they put me on some blacklist because I stream media all the time? This actually doesn't affect streaming media, but it screws up legitimate work usage.
Is there some keepalive utility I could use that would fix this as a countermeasure? Is anyone else running into this, or am I just special?
Thanks in advance for your help
wwwes said:
Hello,
If I connect via wap.cingular (my account cannot connect on isp.cingular) I am having major issues using outlook web access, rapidshare, and a few other web apps. this is apparently due to ATT rolling my IP address every few seconds.
If I go on my phone (HTC FUZE/RAPHAEL) to http://whatismyip.com/ and refresh the page a few times, I get a different IP almost every time. it is always in the same subnet, so far (only the last numbers change ie, aaa.bbb.ccc.xxx, where xxx changes all the time, and a, b, and c, don't).
I use a huge load of data. Have they put me on some blacklist because I stream media all the time? This actually doesn't affect streaming media, but it screws up legitimate work usage.
Is there some keepalive utility I could use that would fix this as a countermeasure? Is anyone else running into this, or am I just special?
Thanks in advance for your help
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I'll plead ignorance on this, but I always switch off the proxy for the media net and get great usage for doing that. I don't know if you have tried it yet, but here is what I do.
Start/settings/connections/connections
Once it brings up the page, click advanced on the bottom.
Select networks
I use media net for both drop down. Click on edit. Select Proxy Settings on the bottom. Uncheck this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet.
If you cannot get to the edit because it is not available, all you need to do is install the HTC Connection Setup and run it. Soft reset and the settings are available. It just rewrites the information but undoes what AT&T did to the phone.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply.
I also use media net without the proxy. I only have issues with timeouts on my outlook web access server, and sites like rapidshare that make you wait 30 seconds to download a file and then complain of session timeouts.
With the proxy I get an IP address range in the 162.xxx.xxx.xxx family, which interestingly enough whois reports to be a verizon dsl modem address.
Without the proxy I get an IP address range in the 32.xxx.xxx.xxx family, which is ATT.
Either way, the address rolls every few seconds.
one workaround I have found is that Opera mini apparently uses an opera-run proxy server to access the internet, and opera mini does not have this logout issue on my outlook web access server even when the IP address rolls, since the proxy is not changing.
I believe the ISP.cingular APN would also fix this issue, but I have yet to find anyone at ATT willing to add it to my account so I can try it out, since they sell it with a tethering plan as an extra feature. I would have to convince my employer to add this to my plan, which is not likely.