Hello
I'm fairly new to WM devices, having only had my HD2 for 2 weeks now. Found lots of helpful advice and the like on these boards, but now have a query which I couldn't find anything about while searching the forums.
Basically, my HD2 (unbranded from Virgin) was supplied with 1.48 installed. After about a week of ownership I made a backup of the phone using SPB and installed 1.66 following the instructions on HTC's website. I then installed the backup made with SPB onto my phone getting all my programs and contacts back.
When I soft reset the device theloading screen shows the ROM as version 1.66.77xxx, yet I noticed today that when I view the ROM version through the settings > Software Information tab it's shown as 1.48.405.2 (71294). Is this some sort of problem, or something I should just ignore. I'm having no performance issues or anything like that.
think someone posted about having this issue somewhere else on here - might be worth backing up using ActiveSync/WMDC and do a flash and restore manually as I think it was said the backup put some system files back on and screwed the flash...might be wrong though
Deadgonz said:
Hello
I'm fairly new to WM devices, having only had my HD2 for 2 weeks now. Found lots of helpful advice and the like on these boards, but now have a query which I couldn't find anything about while searching the forums.
Basically, my HD2 (unbranded from Virgin) was supplied with 1.48 installed. After about a week of ownership I made a backup of the phone using SPB and installed 1.66 following the instructions on HTC's website. I then installed the backup made with SPB onto my phone getting all my programs and contacts back.
When I soft reset the device theloading screen shows the ROM as version 1.66.77xxx, yet I noticed today that when I view the ROM version through the settings > Software Information tab it's shown as 1.48.405.2 (71294). Is this some sort of problem, or something I should just ignore. I'm having no performance issues or anything like that.
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Just ignore it mate. The real ROM version number is the one you see when you reset the device. The one you see in Sense/Windows is one in the registry that was no doubt backed up and then restored from the previous ROM version.
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Is WMWifiRouter working in the new official sprint WM 6.1 ROM that was recently released? (not the beta/test version, the official ship release)
Hi! You have to use the 1.5i version.
Hi again... ...just installed the 1.09 version and works great!!!
Hey all, one of the moderators suggested I put this post in here:
I’ve seen a few people here and at least one person over at PPCGeeks who have this issue, but no one has posted a way to resolve it.
Here’s the issue: I’m running the new stock 3.56 ROM on my Sprint Mogul. I installed WMWifiRouter 0.91, then removed it in favor of 0.80 (I read it had some advantages over 0.91). I believe I then uninstalled 0.80 to reinstall 0.91 and then decided to give WMWifiRouter the finger. I guess it knew I wanted to abandon it completely as it won’t let me uninstall it now. I get the following error:
“Jorrit Jongma WMWifiRouter was not completely removed. Do you want to remove it from the list of installed programs?”
I click “Yes,” but the program still stays on the list. If I try to reinstall it, it says the installation was unsuccessful.
I’ve tried the suggestions I’ve seen which include leaving the wifi switch on during the installation/uninstallation and simply deleting the folders, but nothing helps. Is there maybe a registry edit I can perform to just tear the program from my Mogul by force? I deleted all references I could find by doing a search with Resco Explorer, but still get the same error. How did such a clean little program become so messy? If it wasn’t so flakey I’d continue to use it.
You need to upgrade to the latest versions those old old versions are going to be flaky as the newer ones have had a lot of rewrites to them
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You need to upgrade to the latest versions those old old versions are going to be flaky as the newer ones have had a lot of rewrites to them
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I tried installing the new version, but the old program still remains on the list of installed programs as the two have different names. I was able to uninstall the new version (v1.09), but the old version is still stuck on there. The same error comes up when I attempt to remove it.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
sounds like a hard reset is in order...
What a numpty!
I was trying to get HTC Home Weather working thru T-Mobile UK using v1.5HTCHomeproxy0409.cab (without success), so went into the registry using Total Commander to check the Proxy settings.
Unfortunately I got as far as \\\Registry\HKLM and was trying to double click the "Software" folder but instead it went into edit folder name mode and whilst distracted by the wife managed to change the folder name to "n"
Whatever I try, I can't rename it "Software". I've tried creating a new "Software" folder and copying the files across, but a few won't copy:
/Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\mscoree.dll" and
/Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\Intellipad.dll" and
plus some .NET Compact Framework files in /Microsoft/ folder - but I'm guessing these are something the prev user had and wont affect the normal functions / programmes I will use
so... is there any way I can put the files I moved from
\\\Registry\HKLM\Software back, do I need to etc ????
Would appreciate a bit of advice from someone less accident prone!!!!
Its a (recently bought off eBay) , ex T Mob (UK I think) unbranded with HTC home etc. Can't work out how to see what version of HTCHome was on, but guess I've written over it with the proxy.cab now - the icons have changes and have lost today screen battery indicator, but that's a problem for another day!
Not sure what the ROM is, if its an original or cooked (OS ID looks normal to me, WM5?), but ExtROM looks like its been hacked by its name - dferriera WM5SE
G4 Wizard
ipl 2.21.0001
spl 2.21.0lip
gsm (radio?) 02.71.11
os 2.26.10.2 WWE
Well, if it wont change back, you can always hard reset or reflash to a new ROM...and if you do the later, all of the prerequisites have been done for you, you have HardSPL allplied already, and the correct radio ROM version for most of the ROMs, so you can flash away!
Thanks Ashasaur.
As you've probably noted from my profile and foolish behaviour, I'm new to this, does anyone mind just explaining the above comments on the ROM flash for me please?
-all of the prerequisites (?) have been done for you
-you have HardSPL (?) applied already: Is this related to the Server Proxy I've been trying to patch to HTC home for the weather fix?
-and the correct radio ROM version for most of the ROMs: does that mean I need to be careful I pick a ROM to match my radio version somehow?
If I can't find a way to rename the registry file, I'll have to go for a hard reboot, ROM flashing will be my next project once I feel I've done enough reading to understand what I'm doing and what not to do!
Thanks.
In order:
1-Prerequisites)-You have got HardSPL flashed succesfully to your device which leads to;
2-HardSPL)-Since you have a G4 device, in order to flash a non-carrier ROM you have to have HardSPL applied to your device, and you can tell that yours has been done by your IPL and SPL. Your IPL or 2.21.0001 indicates that you have a G4 Wizard, and your SPL or 2.21.Olip means that you have HardSPL applied already, otherwise you would have had to do it in order to be able to flash any ROMs...which leads to;
3-Radio)-What I mean by correct radio for most of the ROMs is that 2.71.11 is regarded as one of the more stable radio ROMs out there, and together with version 2.19.X, they are the preferred versions, though any version will work with any ROM, some work better than others.
Hope that helps!
Yes it does, thanks - especially now it has prompted me to read the wiki on hardSPL.
So maybe flashing a new ROM is not too far away...
Does the ROM contain the Windows operating system, in which case can I upgrade to WM6 / 6.1 (version currently says WM5) on my device, will I find a selection with info on what's in them on the downloads pages? (can't get access right now for some reason)
Cheers
I just did this today with my Touch Pro, it's alarmingly easy to break your device like this.
I think I have it fixed ... after I made the mistaken renaming, the device had locked up (or grown very slow) so I soft reset it. That rebuilt a large portion of the Software folder. After that, I copied the remaining keys in the renamed folder to clipboard and overwrote whatever was in the new Software folder.
Phone seems to be back to normal, but I'll be on the lookout for anything that didn't quite work. If that's the case I may have to hard reset.
@burnsy, yes, most of the download pages contain what the ROMs have in them, but I would look at my review thread in the Wizard Mobile 6 section...its called ROM Features......such such such, its got a list and ratings of the ROMs that you may find interesting.
Nice one ashasaur, sounds like just what I want. Should keep me off he streets...
Dr G, seems you're getting on a bit better than I am - my device won't let me copy all the files into the new folder. Noticed that I can receive but no longer send email, even after deleting and reinstalling my account, but that could equally have been caused by the htc home proxy files I was playing with!
I feel a hard reset coming on...
I downloaded the new rom from htc (1.66) and put it on my phone.
I then restored my backup (done with spb backup on 1.48 rom) and everything works fine.
When I turn on the phone the red numbers in the bottom left of the screen say that I have 1.66 but if I go in "software identity" in htc sense it says I have still 1.48.
who should I believe?
since there isn't any "visible" features in this new rom I'm quite unsure ^^'
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Drom said:
I downloaded the new rom from htc (1.66) and put it on my phone.
I then restored my backup (done with spb backup on 1.48 rom) and everything works fine.
When I turn on the phone the red numbers in the bottom left of the screen say that I have 1.66 but if I go in "software identity" in htc sense it says I have still 1.48.
who should I believe?
since there isn't any "visible" features in this new rom I'm quite unsure ^^'
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SPB backup will restore a registry value that holds the ROM number. It's there so that software doesn't have to query the ROM to see what version is running. Software just looks in the registry.
You do the ROM update and it changes it to 1.66. You then restore your backup and it puts it back to 1.48.
Believe the little red startup text - it never lies
You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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+1 to MyPhone.
bzdemes said:
You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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I always used spb backup when I changed roms on my old touch hd without any problem (they were all miri's rom) so I thought it wouldn't be any problem using 2 official roms.
however everything works fine, it only seems that my old backup changed the rom number displayed in htc sense, I can live with that xD
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I have just restored my HD2 with SPB Backup after upgrading to 1.66 like before however this time the restore didnt detect the new rom version. I used the "Force ROM upgrade" option on the full restore and hey presto!
Even so no restore will be perfect and I do notice some other issues; I use SPB Mobile Shell rather than sense, and HTC messaging text is in a huge font since the upgrade. If anyone has a suggestion how to tweak the font I will be much obliged!
Good evening,
I've just had my Touch HD delivered today, its not brand new, its a used item but is in perfect condition.
Anyway, the previous owner has obviously removed all of his details, pictures etc etc. However there are still a few apps on the device. Tom Tom for example, a screen rotate app and a few others.
Although they are useful, I'd quite like to have a fresh start with it.
The last owner installed a fresh windows 6.5.5 (?) before he sent me it, but I dont really know the difference, I'm a beginner when it comes to windows mobile.
So anyway, is it worth me doing a full reset on the phone? So its a cleans slate? And then updating the operating system (I need to learn about ROM and things etc), and downloading the apps that I'd like?
Things like the home screen, is the clock meant to be white and black? Because mine is like a see through bluey grey colour and I dont think the default theme is installed.
Anyway, any advice will be happily received
Thanks
Chris
anyone got any advice for a new wm user?
Any comments are appreciated
You could hard reset, but then you would no longer have whatever applications he left on there (like TomTom etc). However, it could be that he left TomTom on the SD card, and that you could simply reinstall it. That might also be the case with whatever other apps are on the phone.
The Touch HD original came with Windows Mobile 6.1. The previous owner flashed a newer custom ROM that has WM 6.5 on it. There are different versions (or "builds") of WM 6.5, but in general they look the same and they are better than 6.1.
To "update" the version of windows, would require you to flash (i.e. "install") another ROM on the phone. There are no "windows updates" via internet like on desktop computers.
Hard reseting basically brings the phone back to the fresh ROM installation state (of whatever was the last ROM someone flashed on there). So, you could do that and then you could begin to install whatever apps you want.
After you get the phone the way you like (with apps, contacts etc) you could use a program like Spb Backup to backup the entire phone. That way, if later on it gets a bit sluggish, you can hard reset and do a backup restore so that within a few minutes, you will have all your apps and contacts etc. right back on there. It saves you the time of reinstalling everything. Keep in mind that it is not always recommended (although possible) to restore a backup onto a ROM different from the one used when the backup was created.
If you are curious about what apps to install, I just posted a list of my favorites in another thread. Link here (second post)
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
Firstly, things like tomtom were on the memory card as you said, so they still work.
I've actually done a hard reset on the phone and its come back exactly the same.
So I'm guessing its had another ROM update in the past? I've been searching around for the original ROM and have managed to download one. I just dont know how to install it (done a few searches already).
I guess I'd just like to start fresh with it, and modify it in my way
Thanks again for the reply.
I would not recommend going to an original (stock) ROM. Custom ROMs are a lot better. There are some very talented people here who make changes to original ROMs in order to make them faster and to improve many of the features (as well as include new features).
I bought my HD in Nov 2008, and within a couple of weeks, I flashed a different ROM on it. It has been almost a year and a half, and I could not picture myself ever going back to a stock ROM.
You can see the ROM development section here in XDA dev. or you can visit htcpedia.com to look at other options. ROMs from Dutty, Energy, MaryOne, and Miri are among the most popular. They each create different ROMs and each has ROMs with different versions of Windows Mobile and HTC Sense (Manila 2.1 or Sense 2.5). Some have the regular HTC text messaging app, while others have removed it and include the Windows Mobile messaging app (since there have been problems with the HTC app becoming extremely slow when you have lots and lots of messages - i.e. for those "text message power users").
To flash a new ROM (takes about 10 minutes), you have two options:
1. Flash from your PC
2. Flash from the SD card in the phone
I have always done it from PC, but flashing from SD card is a safer method. If you flash from your PC, it is very important that, once the flashing starts, you never ever unplug the phone from the PC until it is totally finished and it restarts (or else you will kill your phone permanently). But, just do the SD card method and you'll be on the safe side.
The first thing I would do is to start your phone in bootloader mode (= hold volume down key the whole time and tap the power button; a red-blue-green-white screen will appear) to see what type of SPL you have (original SPL or HardSPL). You probably have HSPL, which would allow you to flash any ROM. If you have original SPL, you will need to either install HSPL to permanently have the ability to flash other ROMs or install USPL to have the ability to flash a ROM in that particular moment only.
Read more about SPL here (great tutorial).
My guess is that since the previous owner installed newer ROMs, then you probably have HSPL and you probably have a version 1.56 ROM installed. If this is the case, you would not need the upgrade steps discussed in that thread. Those are for people with 1.54 ROMs (the older, not so common ROMs). But it is still good to read as it describes installing new ROMs.
Here is a quote from Dutty about quick ROM flashing instructions:
*Flashing Guide
SAFEST WAY TO FLASH YOUR ROM IS THROUGH STORAGE CARD METHOD:
* Copy BLACIMG.NBH into the root dir of your Storage Card.
* Be sure to have at least 30% of charge.
* Turn off your device by using the Power Button.
* Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.
* After that your device with have a white screen with text " Press to power button for continue upgrade or Press Volume down button for cancel upgrade , select press to power button and it will start upgrade Rom.
ALTERNATIVE WAY OF FLASHING YOUR ROM WITH RUU.exe
* Extract Rom download Folder.
* Be sure to have at least 50% of charge.
* Turn off your device by using the Power Button
* Go to Boot loader mode. Push and hold Vol. Down + press Power button.
* Connect your device to PC
* Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the screen instructions.
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thanks for another very useful post
Ok I've checked out the device information etc.
If I show you them here would you be able to possibly point out if I'm running a good setup?
Ok on the bootloader screen it reads this..
Blac100 32M
SPL-1.56.0liNex
MicroP-Blackstone (LED) v6
When I start the phone up the first screen displays this in the bottom right...
1.17.25.09
52.69.25.37U
Also after that it shows a screen saying HTC and then Energy underneath.
Is Energy one of the ROM types?
And lastly in the device information it shows this.....
OS Version - 5.2.21901(21901.5.0.92)
Manilla Version - 2.5.20121255
ROM Version - 23.Apr.2010.WWE
ROM Date - 11/20/09
Radio Version -1.17.25.09
Protocol Version - 52.69.25.37U
Also when I press Start it shows a new page rather than a drop down programs menu....is this a part of an updated ROM?
I hope you dont mind me bombarding you with all this info.
I guess I just need an experts help
Thanks again
Chris
No problem. Glad to help.
SPL 1.56.0liNex shows that you do have HSPL and that it is upgraded to install 1.56 ROMs. That's good. It basically makes it easy to quickly flash whatever ROM you want to try out, without having to do any extra steps. So, the instructions on how to flash from memory card (above) should work for you.
Yes, you have an Energy ROM installed. You can continue to use it or you can flash another ROM if you want to try something else.
Your OS version shows you are running WM 6.5 build 21901 There are different builds out there. Some are more buggy than others, but I don't know how much they all differ from each other. The newer ones have the start button and OK button at the bottom of the screen instead of at the top, and the menus look a bit different. These versions are often referred to as WM 6.5.x instead of 6.5
Manila shows you have the latest HTC Sense version 2.5 (build 20121255)
ROM version shows WWE (world wide english) language and the date from about a week ago. I don't know if that is how new the ROM is or if that is the date the ROM was flashed. On my phone, it says "Dutty HD HG R2 WWE" (that's my ROM) but no date, so I don't know what your date means.
ROM date - 11/20/09 This is probably when the ROM was released.
Radio version: I have an older version 1.13.25.24. I believe this can be changed separately from the ROM, but if you are not experiencing any issues with bad connections etc, then don't worry about it. I have never done anything with my radio version, and I have no idea if the ROMs I have installed have ever changed that. I've never had a problem. Sorry, don't know much about the different radio versions.
Start menu opens up a new page..... This is part of WM 6.5 If you don't like it, there is an app out there that can bring back the old drop-down menu, but most people prefer the new version.
I hope that helps.
Yet again, thanks for the help.
I'm starting to understand how this little device works now.
I've decided I want to start from a fresh with the phone and attempt to restore it back to "factory" settings (if possible).
So I assume I'll be need to get hold of an original rom file?
And flash it with that?
I know newer roms are better etc, but I want to set the phone up to my specifications if you know what I mean.
This shouldnt cause any problems should it?
Also do you know where I might be able to download an original rom from?
Cheers
Chris
Sure, if you want to flash a stock ROM, you can try it and see how you like it.
You can find a lot of info about flashing on the XDA Wiki page for the Touch HD. Save it in your favorites because it could come in handy later.
In that page, you will find this link to available stock ROMs in the various languages.
Hi everybody,
I bought 5 devices of HTC HD2 for my company.
Each device freeze after running several programs.
I've tried the following steps:
1. Performed hard reset
2. Upgrade the ROM version to 1.66 but nothing helped.
3. Remove the HTC sense.
Nothing of the above steps helped.
Please help me ,i'm desperate...
[email protected] said:
Hi everybody,
I bought 5 devices of HTC HD2 for my company.
Each device freeze after running several programs.
I've tried the following steps:
1. Performed hard reset
2. Upgrade the ROM version to 1.66 but nothing helped.
3. Remove the HTC sense.
Nothing of the above steps helped.
Please help me ,i'm desperate...
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This sound crazy and my suggestion is to return them from the place you buy them this can be some hardware problem.... witch mean Serious Problem
If you explain more i can try help you to find witch couse the problem with the freeze this is not normal for device with such a powerfull processor.
Anyway witch is your company? to come work for you when you are buying Leos...
everyone now will start to ask about the cool company that gives HD2 and forget about the problem
john (if thats your real name), post the same question in the leo forum and make sure to mention the installed software. also make sure you update to a newer ROM
Hope this helps
Hi John,
I have had the same problem and am currently using
Rom Version 2.10.531.1
OS version 5.2.21889
What I did to solve to this problem was
Step1: Clean everything off the device in Settings > Application > Remove Programs
(Can choose to do whatever I just chose to delete everything and start from scratch it was that or a factory reset (Settings > Security > Factory Reset)
Step2: Turn off the Location Services in Settings > location (I unchecked everything AGPS and HTC location)
Step3: Downloaded and installed Cleanram
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
So far it has been peaceful (3 days and counting) hope this helps or can be condensed to find the problem until an update arrives.
tsalta said:
This sound crazy and my suggestion is to return them from the place you buy them this can be some hardware problem.... witch mean Serious Problem
If you explain more i can try help you to find witch couse the problem with the freeze this is not normal for device with such a powerfull processor.
Anyway witch is your company? to come work for you when you are buying Leos...
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Hi,
We are a small SW company. We just wanted to test these devices before star working on them. This happened when we run some programs from the program list of the device.
Thanks in advance.
i would also follow the recommendations Jalopy is making.
also make sure that you dont have too many text messages on your device otherwise HTC Messaging will slow the whole device down!
Jhon
[email protected] said:
Hi,
We are a small SW company. We just wanted to test these devices before star working on them. This happened when we run some programs from the program list of the device.
Thanks in advance.
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How many is "some" programs?
What programs are you using? I would like to reproduce the bug.
Sounds to me considering the amount of people having the same problem in different areas doing different steps, that this is memory related and not hardware.
Are you closing your applications after you use them?
Even when you exit some default programs (wrong or right) they are still displayed in the task manager (taking up precious memory ). Make sure you are closing your apps by checking in Task Manager and ending the task correctly and cleaning your ram or alternatively you can download Duttys Task Manager that allows you to close the app by pressing x rather than minimizing it.
Duttys task manager
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
This problem is already posted on this site elsewhere (a duplicate post) under Leo, as The Grizz pointed out.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607949
Hope this helps
Freeze after rom flash.
Hello i thought i may use this thread since the topic is the same. I recently got my hd2,so i thought i could experiment on it changing the rom that could optimize the hardware usage, since the original rom was not good. Anyway i installed Hspl_2 and added this rom:Miri_rom_hd2_WM65X from htcpedia
I followed the guide on this site so everything went fine. the device booted nicely with the new rom, but when i reboted the device it freezes on the htc logo. I performed hard reset and it works fine, but each time i reboot the device freezes at the htc logo and i am forced to hard reset it each time.
I wonder if its something wrong with the rom? and what about the radio?
Hi guys,
My phone suffers from the same, we are also looking into it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607949