Hi, I am new to Android and just bought Nexus one.
I like every features of the phone. However, I switched off Autosync with google account and turned off even background data. Lastly I killed all of the background running apps except 3G watchdog (to check 3G usage).
And this F nexus one still downloading some data!! its downloaded like 200kb for an hour. Last week it chewed up 50MB on a day when I used data for an OTA update which was around 15MB.
I had an iPhone 3G and 3GS before, but I used iphone with push notification on and never had problem with data usage.
Why my nexus one is keep chew up my data? Am I doing something wrong?
I am sad that I need to run gmail app to see if I received new email.
PS. Last 3 days, I used data for like 5min per day and it chewed up 30MB per day. -_- Root the phone and flash with custom rom could help me out please!
download toggle data from the market place and itl switch off any data connections for you
teihoata said:
download toggle data from the market place and itl switch off any data connections for you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there any other way other than just blocking 3G connection? I wish I could just use internet when I need it and download only what I used. little over is ok, but 20MB per day for nothing is not alright for me.. sigh..
reservin said:
Is there any other way other than just blocking 3G connection? I wish I could just use internet when I need it and download only what I used. little over is ok, but 20MB per day for nothing is not alright for me.. sigh..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm I guess you can just use the toggle data widget and turn the data off when you are not using it, when you want to however just tap the widget and it'll turn back on for you. Is that what your looking for?
Can I ask why it is you wish to do this? Do you pay per MB?
I can understand the latter, however there is a great deal to switch off if you want to stop the phone from syncing everything.
try these
* Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks, uncheck 'Data roaming'
* Settings -> Location & security, uncheck 'Use wireless networks'
* Settings -> Applications -> Running services, stopped all except Adriod keyboard & Live Wallpaper
* Settings -> Accounts & sync, uncheck 'Background data' and Synch is off for the accounts I have (facebook & gmail)
* Settings -> Privacy, uncheck 'Use My Location'
* Facebook -> Settings, 'Refresh interval' set to "Never". 'Notifications' set to "Inactive"
* Gmail -> Settings, 'Email notifications' set to "Never"
* Email -> Account Settings, 'Email check frequency' set to "Never"
Source : http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c3636b7fb44d73c&hl=en
teihoata said:
try these
* Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks, uncheck 'Data roaming'
* Settings -> Location & security, uncheck 'Use wireless networks'
* Settings -> Applications -> Running services, stopped all except Adriod keyboard & Live Wallpaper
* Settings -> Accounts & sync, uncheck 'Background data' and Synch is off for the accounts I have (facebook & gmail)
* Settings -> Privacy, uncheck 'Use My Location'
* Facebook -> Settings, 'Refresh interval' set to "Never". 'Notifications' set to "Inactive"
* Gmail -> Settings, 'Email notifications' set to "Never"
* Email -> Account Settings, 'Email check frequency' set to "Never"
Thank you! I will try this setting and how it goes. Is there push-notification like iphone? push-notification seemed work great with using tiny amount of data.
By the way, I live in AUS and I have 250MB per month to use. If I use more than 250MB, I need to pay extra money for data usage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just do not understand why Nexus one is chewing my data while its just sitting in my pocket, when iPhone did not. Imagine 10MB per day is equal to 300MB per month. I saw someone used 3weeks with 7MB download, which is understandable. Why mine doesn't..
A simple method without rooting or any other application would be:
1. Dialpad *#*#4636#*#*
2. Phone information
3. Menu
4. More
5. Disable Data Connection or Disable Data on Boot
There you go. You can enable it same way . Choose first option from 5. if you want to re-enable it without a reboot.
Ran into this problem, too. Slapped APNdroid on it since to toggle data connections, which works great except the app can be a little glitchy.
grainysand said:
Ran into this problem, too. Slapped APNdroid on it since to toggle data connections, which works great except the app can be a little glitchy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I downloaded APNdroid as well, but it blocks 3G phone as well. I assume that it also toggle phone connectivity.
I think it's hilarious that you're getting so upset because your SMARTPHONE uses DATA. 250mb for a month isn't nearly enough. Do yourself a favor and get 1gb at least... and enjoy your phone!
uansari1 said:
I think it's hilarious that you're getting so upset because your SMARTPHONE uses DATA. 250mb for a month isn't nearly enough. Do yourself a favor and get 1gb at least... and enjoy your phone!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, 250mb for you maybe not enough. But I used it kind of enougly with iPhone. Also, it chewed up for no reason? I did not get any benefits with the usage. I wouldnt be upset if the data that spent by nexus one was beneficial for me. It's just leaking and I wanna know why is it leaking.
reservin said:
Well, 250mb for you maybe not enough. But I used it kind of enougly with iPhone. Also, it chewed up for no reason? I did not get any benefits with the usage. I wouldnt be upset if the data that spent by nexus one was beneficial for me. It's just leaking and I wanna know why is it leaking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
man, really..
my phone is on 24/7. all day with 3G, evening with wifi.
at the end of the day i never am above 5-6 MB of data transferred in total.
Im not sure what you've installed but its not the default experience.
reservin said:
Well, 250mb for you maybe not enough. But I used it kind of enougly with iPhone. Also, it chewed up for no reason? I did not get any benefits with the usage. I wouldnt be upset if the data that spent by nexus one was beneficial for me. It's just leaking and I wanna know why is it leaking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd argue there is reason. The major focus point of the phone is so that you can receive your data on the go. I get my email, weather, news, IM, sports scores, twitter updates, etc, etc... instantly and automatically. Not only that, but my phone backs up my settings, and contacts automatically so I don't have to even think about anything when I wipe my phone to reflash a new rom.
Frankly without all that, there's not much point to the phone. You might as well just check those things from a full scale computer, and just carry a dumb phone.
Really can't see why you'd want to limit the data usage of a N1 (or any other 'smart phone'). It's completely useless without a data connection!
That said, it really shouldn't use much if you aren't doing anything with it. I only use 400Mb ish a month with plenty of use including mail/calendar etc sync all the time, plenty of web browsing, google maps, podcasts and streaming music for last fm.
Maybe you have something installed that's doing something in the background (like your data monitor!?).
I have to agree with the OP; There are cases where one would want to not get constant updates/have constant data usage, e.g. if you travel a lot (internationally), or if you're on a low budget for a period, or if you just don't have the subscription to cover it yet.
nmesisca said:
man, really..
my phone is on 24/7. all day with 3G, evening with wifi.
at the end of the day i never am above 5-6 MB of data transferred in total.
Im not sure what you've installed but its not the default experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I would not start this thread if my nexus one transferes data like yours. Also whatever app I've installed, I killed all of them and still chewing up data. I know this is not the default expereice, so I wrote my exprience to see if anyone else is having similar problem and to find answers from other nexus one users who spent more time with the phone than me.
GlenH said:
Really can't see why you'd want to limit the data usage of a N1 (or any other 'smart phone'). It's completely useless without a data connection!
That said, it really shouldn't use much if you aren't doing anything with it. I only use 400Mb ish a month with plenty of use including mail/calendar etc sync all the time, plenty of web browsing, google maps, podcasts and streaming music for last fm.
Maybe you have something installed that's doing something in the background (like your data monitor!?).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When my nexus one had setting like your nexus one (first day I received), it chewed up 70mb on that day. I would be happy if my N1 uses the data like yours.
(This is for everyone who read this thread)
By the way, why the hell people replies with their opinion about the data plan for N1? I wrote this on the other forum and I am getting completely different answers. I did not started this thread to ask how much data plan do I need for N1. Why is everyone is just saying get a more data usage plan, smartphone needs a huge data plan. Well, N1 is not my first smartphone and I know I need bigger data plan one day. But before I get a bigger data plan, I want to find out why my N1 is using more data than other users
does it have to do with the rom ur using?
maybe weather update plugin or something random like that?
why dont u try flashing it to the stock rom with no apps installed and give it a try?
Related
Hi! I'd like to now whether it's possible to check which application is using the network, and how much it uses it. I've heard that in "Spare parts" selecting "Battery history > Network usage" you can check this, but on Samsung Galaxy S it only says that the data is not available. If there is no such app is there a ROM that enables this data?
I've had the exactly the same problem! Would be grateful for any ideas or apps to determine what is downloading data
i'm using 3G watchdog
best app so far that tells me my usage
I don't think 3G Watchdog tells you what app is actually using it though.
OffTopic: AllGamer your droptest video made me cringe :/
AllGamer said:
i'm using 3G watchdog
best app so far that tells me my usage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it does not show usage per application. There appears to be no app that can do this
Edit: The Battery history menu can show network usage on the Froyo JPC firmware. Use the SGS info app, can be found free on this forum or as a purchase on the Market.
Or dial *#*#4636#*#*
It doesn't look right though, Just a blue are red bar for each app, including the Dialer, an app called "0" which has the highest usage here, and "1010". No number to go with the bar.
danamoult said:
I don't think 3G Watchdog tells you what app is actually using it though.
OffTopic: AllGamer your droptest video made me cringe :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
at least you can sleep well knowing our phone can stand all those abuses and still lives
unless you drop the phone from over 1.5 meter tall
I'd really like this too. Definitely want to know where all my data is going.....
well if you think of it, you are only doing these as the very basic:
1. email (text)
2. web (text & video streams)
3. calendar sync (text)
4. contact sync (text)
5. facebook sync (text)
6. tweeter sync (text)
7. IM and/or (text)
less conventional data usage
8. Fring <------- video uses more
9. internet radio stream <--- high data usage as well, but less than video
10. FTP server (depends on usage)
11. Torrent (depends on usage)
12. Remote Desktop / VNC <--- medium data usage
so in the end, there is no way you do not know where you are using losing your data to
That is mostly true - but sometimes you have mystery usage.
Today, for instance, i got ticked off, and disabled background sync entirely. I already have my emails only polling every hour, and weather every 6 hours. (with background sync off, it shouldnt even poll at ALL.) I don't have any facebook/twitter stuff, and didnt even go near the web browser. The phone somehow STILL used over 10mb of data in about 5 hours. I dont know what is using this data, and its annoying me.
Thus the continued request to find a program that will show usage PER APP.
I have the same issue
Same problem here, its only been 3 days and i already have 100mb of data usage. I've downloaded some apps but not enough to give me 100mb of data! This is realy weird and frustrating.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App
Well, i have discovered that such a program does indeed exist.
BUT - it only works with froyo. BOOOOO!
I have the page bookmarked for when i get it though!
Here it is: TrafficStats
Nice, now all my Galaxy S needs is Froyo...
i'm so looking forward to froyo
2 more week to go
i too want to install that Traffic tracking App
does anyone know if its possible to run juice defender and still have background sync work for gmail? or is it that you just end up with syncing 1 time out of every 15 minutes? I enabled gmail to use the data connection but i assume that would only be when gmail is actually open. so what happens now when gmail trys to sync, will it just fail?
I'm curious about this as well. I use K9-Mail as well as GMail. If my sync interval is set to 5 minutes, but Juice Defender only turns on data every 15 minutes, which one wins? I assume Juice Defender and that the apps will just silently fail to update and try again later. Is that right?
beats me, but I'm probably going to uninstall this, I don't mind turning off the data, but not to the extend that i'm neutering my 2010 phone to do it. I mean seriously, it can't just check for sync on applications and activate the 3g? and turn off when the thing has the screen closed except for syncing? I'd expect an app to work like this one does 10 years ago. the phone is smarter than the app attempting to control it.
Yes, the inboxes won't sync while data is off. So worst case scenario you have a 15 minute delay between getting emails. You can set it to a faster data sync time - like 5 minutes. But you might only be able to do that with the paid app - UltimateJuice - I'm not sure.
I don't think the phone can do what you're wanting to do because of the way push email works. Generally, and I could be wrong here, Gmail works like other push email systems in that it requires a constant data connection (Like IMAP Idle) to notify when a new email comes in. The sync'ing you're talking about is more like a pull than a push. The problem with pulling is that it is way more taxing on the battery since it's actively checking at certain intervals if there are new emails. And if juicedefender was set to turn on 3g whenever something tried to pull - firstly the service would use way more battery than it's saving since it would constantly poll to see if anything is requesting a data connection, secondly, data would almost always be on - defeating the purpose.
robl45 said:
does anyone know if its possible to run juice defender and still have background sync work for gmail? or is it that you just end up with syncing 1 time out of every 15 minutes? I enabled gmail to use the data connection but i assume that would only be when gmail is actually open. so what happens now when gmail trys to sync, will it just fail?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually yes. The free version allows you to specify which 1 app that can bypass the data blocking. The paid version let's you specify more. (click on the "Apps" button then "configure apps" in juice defender setup)
I have JD & UJ installed, i think i have it configured ok, I have it set so no data while screen is off but I still get gmail come thru when screen is off.
I have the schedule set to check every 2 hours, does this over rule the setting for no data while screen is off.
I wish there was an extensive guide provided with these types of apps
djcsurf said:
I wish there was an extensive guide provided with these types of apps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why JD just got uninstalled.
Grr, I want my Blackberry back. I could have everything ON and still get 3+ days between charges.
I use the free version and can confirm that it is at most a 15 minute delay between emails. Its not really a big deal. It is just as responsive.
I get about 50% more battery life with the default settings.
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
And no, you can't have Gmail syncing automatically by setting that particular app to keep data connection active or you have basically just made juicedefender useless.
You set it up to prefer wifi, turn data off with the screen. You set the timer to allow data connection on whatever schedule you want, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours. Then you are done. Do you really need a guide written to explain this? Then your emails will come through during whatever window you set up, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours.
muyoso said:
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't it funny people on a developers forum want a guide for one app......
muyoso said:
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
And no, you can't have Gmail syncing automatically by setting that particular app to keep data connection active or you have basically just made juicedefender useless.
You set it up to prefer wifi, turn data off with the screen. You set the timer to allow data connection on whatever schedule you want, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours. Then you are done. Do you really need a guide written to explain this? Then your emails will come through during whatever window you set up, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just have one JD question.. probably a dumb one..
I typically toggle my data manually. But I think I'd like to try letting JD do it's thing (turn data on for 2 minutes, twice per hour)..
So do I leave my manual toggle in the on, or off position? Their instructions are unclear (or I'm looking in the wrong place..)
In other words, if I have data manually toggled off, will JD override that and do it's thing?
Or do I have to leave data toggled on for JD to work?
My battery life has not been as good since I upgraded the ROM a few weeks ago. The biggest culprit seems to be the Android System and Android OS. Each of them typically use about 8-10% of the battery, so it's not uncommon for them to have used 20% of the battery combined.
In addition, Android System uploads a bunch of data. In a full day, Android system typically sends 3-5 MB and receives 400-900 KB.
Android OS (is this all apps combined??) has uploaded 500-1000 KB and receives 10-20 MB.
I've frozen the apps on the receommended list (except for a couple I use like the ATT code scanner). Use no social network stuff. I do have Exchange plus two Gmail accounts + 3 K9 email accounts setup.
I can't seem to manage any setting change to reduce the battery/data usage of these two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983636
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
DarrellRaines said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983636
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've done all those things except for (Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery > social apps > sync over wifi), which I did actually do a couple hours ago on one last run through the settings to make sure I hadn't missed anything before posting here.
What the heck is android system uploading? Is that motoblur backing things up? I have searched XDA and googled and while I have seen the question about Android System with large uploads, I have yet to see a solid answer as to what's going on.
tnedator said:
I've done all those things except for (Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery > social apps > sync over wifi), which I did actually do a couple hours ago on one last run through the settings to make sure I hadn't missed anything before posting here.
What the heck is android system uploading? Is that motoblur backing things up? I have searched XDA and googled and while I have seen the question about Android System with large uploads, I have yet to see a solid answer as to what's going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it's constantly receiving contact numbers and contact photos and status' from facebook. no way to turn that off i dont think unless your rooted. i know anytime i call someone, their status and facebook pic is new and haven't seen it before almost every time.
tripleh3lix said:
I think it's constantly receiving contact numbers and contact photos and status' from facebook. no way to turn that off i dont think unless your rooted. i know anytime i call someone, their status and facebook pic is new and haven't seen it before almost every time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am rooted, and have frozen most of the apps on the recommended list.
I don't have facebook or twitter accounts setup. Only Exchange, Gmail and some K9 IMAP accounts.
using traffic monitor, i found that the calibrate compass service, which seems to be a whole suit of services sucks down a lot of data. its been using about 1gb data a month. which im sure is putting some strain on the battery.
Multiple email accounts will cause a great deal of data usage on their own. Especially an exchange account and a gmail account.
If you can, why not use the gmail account to send and receive all the email for the imap accounts. I do this with my business accounts and my personal email.
You also may be syncing your contacts and all with both the exchange and the gmail account which would cause extra data and would be a bit over kill.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
How aboute the data usage of phone 7?
Does it stil use large amounts or is this solved with one of the updates?
Can't really find a clear answer.
not noticed it being high, but then i never did, perhaps some more anti windows phone FUD going around?
Make sure you switch off the automatic e-mail checking, location and hub updates. The People hub will not update until you actually open it, but then keep in mind: if you have Windows Live, Facebook, Google etc, they will all update once you open the hub - the pictures, status updates, messages and so on will eat your data. Set your e-mails to be checked manually. Disable reporting services.
Thanks for the info. I checked with my provider today and found out that i have 1gig limit, so i don't think it's a real problem.
thjansen said:
How aboute the data usage of phone 7?
Does it stil use large amounts or is this solved with one of the updates?
Can't really find a clear answer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, i have:
1x exchange mailbox sync (mail, contacts,calendar...) - 15min check
1x gmail acc - only mail - hourly check
weather set to update every hour
set up all sync (fb, twetter, linked in)
WiFi mostly off (save battery) when not needed.
Data usage ranges from 90-150MB/month.
After 2 years with trusty Nokia N8 I took delivery of an S3 with ICS on T-mobile here in UK yesterday with 750mb monthly data plan, more than I have ever used before on the Nokia.
I spend much of yesterday downloading Android updates and Apps on my home wifi, no problem.
This morning on 3G i get the warning I have reached my 750mb limit... in 24 hours!
The culprits are background data downloads by Opera Browser (Turbo Mode) 351mb and Android OS background 301 mb.
I have no idea what is going on especially the Opera Browser as I had only browsed a few pages.
Could somebody help me please to identify what might be going on. My first 24 hours with the lovely S3 is turning into a nightmare!
Thanks.
Does the Opera browser try to cache future web pages you may visit in turbo mode, thus using your monthly data?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Do you have background data on?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Remove that opera, and limit the playstore to wifi only in the playstore settings.
Turn the data limit option on and set it to x MB per day / month to control it.
Did the data usage so on the phone give you the warning or did it come from your service provider?
Sometimes i transfer things with samba through wifi to my pc, and my phone reads it as data usage.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Skander1998 said:
Remove that opera, and limit the playstore to wifi only in the playstore settings.
Turn the data limit option on and set it to x MB per day / month to control it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how do I limit daily usage and not monthly?
ooooh u bought the s3 ouch. best off leavin wifi on or disabling background data and auto sync when on 3g
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
You can't. Only monthly.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Use some guys apps from the play store like traffic data, etc for daily limiting
☞★Swyped from drajax's Galaxy S3!!! *♂ツ
Hit thanz if I helped!
" Tomorrow .... its a brand new Today "
Check opera settings and check if it's trying to cache webpages on mobile data, and for the AndroidOS settings, disable sync for your google account and just sync it when you are at home manually, also check other sync settings, see if they are seen as "AndroidOS" not the app also disable Samsung account sync.
And on a limited plan be sure the mobile data limit is set to make sure there are no unexpected fees.
And finally, on the data usage page press the menu capacitive button and check "restrict background data" this will ensure there is no data being transfered in the background unless you are on WiFi, for example your google account will not sync out and about, but it will once you connect to WiFi.
thank you for all these quick responses. To answer questions. I have since switched off background data as soon as i found out. T mobile website not yet able to show my usage to see if phone mistook wifi use for 3g. Opera turbo is supposed to shrink data before it gets to phone. It shrunk 1.7gb to 244mb goodness knows why so much. I was just browsing help forums. Is gt normal for 301mb of android os background to go on on day two ofowning phone?many thanks. Typed from tiny Nokia n8 screen
scotsmantom said:
thank you for all these quick responses. To answer questions. I have since switched off background data as soon as i found out. T mobile website not yet able to show my usage to see if phone mistook wifi use for 3g. Opera turbo is supposed to shrink data before it gets to phone. It shrunk 1.7gb to 244mb goodness knows why so much. I was just browsing help forums. Is gt normal for 301mb of android os background to go on on day two ofowning phone?many thanks. Typed from tiny Nokia n8 screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My usage from 14th Oct to today (so 2 days) is 198MB, which is including everything, background data is about 56.66MB, that includes Android OS, dropbox, skype and a few more apps.
Depending on the apps installed you could see some huge background data numbers. As for your browser I would swap Opera for Firefox or chrome, chrome for me has used 150KB background data for me and caching websites is only done over wifi by default.
Dont know if you're using Picassa as well? I've heard this can also be one of the culprits when syncing...
I dont use it myself so dont know..
Lol, sync Picasa album should be the culprit, turn it off
《swagged from aokp》
on my i9305 i havent set any limits and only used 771mb in 10 days. and ive used the phone for updates etc
picasa raped me once.
just restricted its use to wifi.
luckily for you (and me!) T-Mobile don't charge anything if you go over limit and they still let you browse, email, facebook, tweet etc. only restrict streaming videos!
lozfromcorby said:
picasa raped me once.
just restricted its use to wifi.
luckily for you (and me!) T-Mobile don't charge anything if you go over limit and they still let you browse, email, facebook, tweet etc. only restrict streaming videos!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm restricting streaming videos would be a bad thing for me, love watching youtube on the bus lol
Many thanks for prompt replies. I have taken on board all replies to avoid this again. No more opera or background update on 3g. Thanks very much