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Anyone manage to avoid UK import tax?

Has anyone managed to get away with UK Import tax on the Nexus One?
If you haven't got your tax bill, when did you order your phone?

I got mine on 13th...picked up from DHL depot myself with 3 identical white paper slips in pouch and haven't received any VAT bill yet. You?

duncan888 said:
Has anyone managed to get away with UK Import tax on the Nexus One?
If you haven't got your tax bill, when did you order your phone?
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Got mine four weeks after the phone was delivered.

Got mine on the 8th Feb. Not got tax yet.
Curious if DHL do open all packages or does some slip through customs.

Been reading threads on other boards about this and what appears to happen is Customs opened them, DHL pays the VAT so you can get the item, and then you are billed for the VAT on DHL's behalf and are required to pay it.
Consensus seems to show that it takes 3-4 weeks (maybe more) to get your VAT bill, but it will happen.

i got my nexus one 6 days after it came out. still no vat
now that ive said this though...mayb ill get a letter on monday lol. but for now, i have nearly doubled the '3-4weeks' timeline.

adam18488 said:
i got my nexus one 6 days after it came out. still no vat
now that ive said this though...mayb ill get a letter on monday lol. but for now, i have nearly doubled the '3-4weeks' timeline.
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Lucky you!

adam18488 said:
i got my nexus one 6 days after it came out. still no vat
now that ive said this though...mayb ill get a letter on monday lol. but for now, i have nearly doubled the '3-4weeks' timeline.
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exactly what I wanted to know, there are some lucky some which have not been invoiced.

duncan888 said:
Has anyone managed to get away with UK Import tax on the Nexus One?
If you haven't got your tax bill, when did you order your phone?
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I thought most people were getting a separate invoice *after* delivery of the phone, but when I ordered I had tracked the parcel to East Midlands Airport, then wondered why it didn't go out on a van for delivery ... I found out when I received a phone call (from a company called Sutherlands rather than DHL themselves) asking for the VAT payment upfront, then they'd arrange delivery next day ... I paid but mentioned I was a bit annoyed they had done it that way round, they said collection was not possible.
I phoned DHL direct and asked if I could collect it, they said Sutherlands generally didn't send through payment confirmation for several hours and they wouldn't release it until they had, I gave them the payment reference for them to chase up.
As it happened I was travelling past East Midlands Airport anyway, so I popped in, explained and they they were fairly decent about it, checked the parcel number, and payment number and fetched my N1 from round the back.
£65.03 for an N1 + UK charger + desktop dock

I phoned DHL while my parcel was still over in the US and the customer service section already know that I would have to pay £60 VAT on it before it had even arrived in the UK. I can only assume then that google must make a declaration as to the value of the goods before they ship

Bought on 18th Feb, received a bill for £58 this morning.

duncan888 said:
Has anyone managed to get away with UK Import tax on the Nexus One?
If you haven't got your tax bill, when did you order your phone?
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No But it did take 4 weeks to come.

nope ! got it off ebay

There were too many reports of phones breaking for me to consider buying from some yank on eBay. Plus i get to choose the engraving on the back =D

got it off uk ebayer with google receipt so no worries !

ordered mine on 6th Jan, delivered on 8th Jan - still no vat bill. I was expecting one, I thought maybe month end or something, but I'm starting to think that dhl might have stuffed up - if it doesn't arrive in the next week or so, I might have got away with it.....................

I got the VAT invoice, didn't pay it. DHL called me, said id not paid it I said they didn't invoice me. Guy sent a copy to my email. I've still not paid it.
I got the phone on 10th Jan.

nyzrox said:
I got the VAT invoice, didn't pay it. DHL called me, said id not paid it I said they didn't invoice me. Guy sent a copy to my email. I've still not paid it..
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One night, you will get DHL knocking on the door with a big dild* ready for you, you should pay man.

nyzrox said:
I got the VAT invoice, didn't pay it. DHL called me, said id not paid it I said they didn't invoice me. Guy sent a copy to my email. I've still not paid it.
I got the phone on 10th Jan.
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You aren't a hero you know. This is simply VAT. Every (non-basic) product sold in this country is subject to it and anything imported is also subject to it. By not paying you are evading tax. That, my friend, is a serious crime and you aren't gonna somehow convince them to just 'let you off'
Just pay it now and save yourself a lot of bother/further expense later.

3Shirts said:
You aren't a hero you know. This is simply VAT. Every (non-basic) product sold in this country is subject to it and anything imported is also subject to it. By not paying you are evading tax. That, my friend, is a serious crime and you aren't gonna somehow convince them to just 'let you off'
Just pay it now and save yourself a lot of bother/further expense later.
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also - they just treat vat invoices like any other - if it is not paid, then it goes to a debt recovery agent and you end up paying more

Buyers in UK, Did you get VAT bill?

it's now been almost 3 months since the Nexus One was released now.
Buyers in the UK, did you get a VAT bill from DHL, or did you get away with it?

Got VAT bill 2/3 weeks after the phone.

Rusty! said:
Got VAT bill 2/3 weeks after the phone.
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+1

There's no import duty on mobile phones. Just the 17.5% vat.

i have not seen one yet, and its been 3 months, surely i would have received one by now.

C.Slater said:
There's no import duty on mobile phones. Just the 17.5% vat.
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That's what the poll is about... if you got a VAT bill...

I got a VAT bill 4 weeks later for £61.48

Mine originally got charged to work. Still awaiting a personal invoice through (assuming it gets sorted properly) still expecting to pay one in the near future though.

So did mine, had to phone up and winge as they tried to charge me the commercial admin fee, fair play they sorted out a credit pretty quick.

business' dont pay vat on phones to avoid fraud. consumers who go over the personal import levy with customs and excise then have to pay vat as its coming from outsde europe.
if you didnt get one say nowt!!

duncan888 said:
it's now been almost 3 months since the Nexus One was released now.
Buyers in the UK, did you get a VAT bill from DHL, or did you get away with it?
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I got one few weeks after purchase for around £60.

Nearly 2 months here and I got mine a few days ago. I'm moving out of this house in a couple weeks, any harm in not paying?

Apart from tax evasion i think you should be fine

The first bill DHL sent me they charged me 5% import duty on top of the VAT, so I called them up to have the bill corrected and send me a revised bill. That was a month ago. I have yet to receive my revised bill. So until my new updated bill arrives I ain't gonna pay DHL a single penny.

If you've had a bill and don't pay, DHL will just pass your details on to a recovery agency who will charge you more, take you to court and damage your credit rating. Not really worth it.
If you are still yet to get one and you had it dispatched to work there is a chance your company will have received the bill as DHL will send it to the "account holder" at that address if one is on file. Now your company may have kindly paid it for you, or the paperwork is moving around in circles as no one has any idea why a VAT bill would have been sent to them.

Got my tax bill 3 weeks after delivery for the N1, sent to work address.
About 2 weeks after delivery for desktop dock 1, sent to work address.
Still waiting on the one for desktop dock 2 (sent to home address, ordered at same time as 1).
You really don't want to try and avoid paying if billed - UK Customs and Excise have an awful long memory and a lot of power (rights of entry to property, opening mail to address, etc etc).

Been 3 months now and not received it yet.
We move on 16th April to anew address so I'm not sure how it will stand if it gets sent to the old address.

Amdathlonuk said:
Been 3 months now and not received it yet. We move on 16th April to a new address so I'm not sure how it will stand if it gets sent to the old address.
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You could always inform DHL that you're moving.
I had to pay the VAT before they'd deliver my N1, then the confirmation was going to take so long it would take an extra day to deliver, so I went and collected it from DHL's depot at the airport.

artesea said:
If you've had a bill and don't pay, DHL will just pass your details on to a recovery agency who will charge you more, take you to court and damage your credit rating. Not really worth it.
If you are still yet to get one and you had it dispatched to work there is a chance your company will have received the bill as DHL will send it to the "account holder" at that address if one is on file. Now your company may have kindly paid it for you, or the paperwork is moving around in circles as no one has any idea why a VAT bill would have been sent to them.
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A couple of years back I imported some stuff and DHL charged me VAT for it, which I forgot about. They send you a reminder bill (a red bill) a month later if you don't pay. So it's not like they don't give you a chance before passing it on to the debt/bailiff department.

Buyers in US who bought from Handtec?

If you bought this phone from Handtec, did it come with UK firmware? Did you pay any customs tax to Fed Ex? How long in average it took from the day of order to the final delivery to US. ( especially west coast) Is your phone Made in Korea?
Thank you for answers

I had bought my Touch HD from them back in 2008 through google checkout. They shipped the same day and arrived in 5 days (or less) to Washington DC. Fedex dropped it to my door. No customs problems, but some legal papers concerning US vs EU thingies with it, which I threw to trash... but again I have read some incidents with customs... maybe it was my luck. Good luck with you. Decent company

Ordered Thursday night, shipped Monday morning, was at my door by 10am Tuesday morning, no issues with customs, tax, etc...using it with straight talk right now, getting H+

carlitos66 said:
If you bought this phone from Handtec, did it come with UK firmware? Did you pay any customs tax to Fed Ex? How long in average it took from the day of order to the final delivery to US. ( especially west coast) Is your phone Made in Korea?
Thank you for answers
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Yes, No, 1 day to New York, Yes.
- Frank

I ordered mine yesterday, it shipped today, and it's scheduled to be delivered to my door tomorrow before 10:30am. I received a call from FedEx today; they said something about the customs paperwork listing electronics and asked what it was. I said a cell phone and the woman said something about the FCC, then "Let me speak with my supervisor and see if this paperwork will suffice." She came back and said her supervisor gave the ok and thanks.
I'll report tomorrow if anything unpleasant happens with my order, such as it not arriving promptly and satisfying my cravings!

Argh! I just checked the FedEx tracking for my Note and it says customs delay! It says "Description provided is insufficient to classify commodity." I hope the earlier call where they asked me what it was is all that's needed and this clearance delay will not change tomorrow's delivery. But the red color of the status bar at the top of the FedEx tracking page is rather ominous...

PolishDude said:
Ordered Thursday night, shipped Monday morning, was at my door by 10am Tuesday morning, no issues with customs, tax, etc...using it with straight talk right now, getting H+
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Same!
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maxh said:
Argh! I just checked the FedEx tracking for my Note and it says customs delay! It says "Description provided is insufficient to classify commodity." I hope the earlier call where they asked me what it was is all that's needed and this clearance delay will not change tomorrow's delivery. But the red color of the status bar at the top of the FedEx tracking page is rather ominous...
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Same here! I was hoping to have mine today by 10:30 am like the delivery estimator had said....
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Wow... i'm noticing the same!!! should i call fedex? since i have it delivered to a PO BOX (im offshore) i don't think they wont answer...

stovarich said:
Wow... i'm noticing the same!!! should i call fedex? since i have it delivered to a PO BOX (im offshore) i don't think they wont answer...
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youd better know your fedex guy or stand at that pobox all day. they wont deliver to a pobox

Ordered mine Friday Nov 3rd. Got it Nov 9th at 10am fedex (weekend in there, so it didn't ship until 7th). No customs problems or delays. No extra taxes or charges. I am in California.

This customs issue is very frustrating. They called and said the FCC form is incomplete. They sent me one to fill out since Handtec is gone for the day and I'm clueless on some of the items on it. I started a new thread with the contents of the form posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19234692#post19234692

same thing
My phone was supposed to be here this morning but held up by customs because of improper address in the manufacturer box. My son already received his without this. I guess it depends on the customs agent. I called handtech and told him they needed to fill in the complete Samsung UK address in that box. Said they would but still seem to think that customs stops some phones just for general principles. Just received e-mail from FedEx saying the package will be here tomorrow between 10:30 and 12

Are you all paying £ 449.99 or £ 584.99?? that's nearly a grand USD.

Milhouse82 said:
Are you all paying £ 449.99 or £ 584.99?? that's nearly a grand USD.
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449 pounds for buyers outside UK

US to euro
$449 it's actually around $611 The phone is unlocked with no AT&T crap on it. Also has a hardware button which is great as far as I'm concerned. When you figure AT&T will be charging $300 for it, it becomes a bargain. Very nice to have a phone that if you're in Europe you can just throw in a Sim card and use it to your hearts extent without those exorbitant AT&T charges. I can also have it right away and not have to wait six months.

dennishhh said:
$449 it's actually around $611 The phone is unlocked with no AT&T crap on it. Also has a hardware button which is great as far as I'm concerned. When you figure AT&T will be charging $300 for it, it becomes a bargain. Very nice to have a phone that if you're in Europe you can just throw in a Sim card and use it to your hearts extent without those exorbitant AT&T charges. I can also have it right away and not have to wait six months.
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I like your thinking

Milhouse82 said:
I like your thinking
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Thanks, this thinking started when I got a $500 bill from my Spain trip. That'll never happen again, there's so many pluses to buying a phone that's it's hard not to.

dennishhh said:
$449 it's actually around $611
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Am I figuring this out wrong? To figure the price in US$ for with the £/US$ conversion isn't it roughly 1.6 x £449 = $718 plus shipping on top of that? Did you pay just $611? Thanks

I paid for 449.99 + 14.99 EU's for overnight shipping FedEx, turned out to be two overnights because of our ultra efficient customs department. Let me get out my trusty converter, that's $632. Subtract $300 I would've paid AT&T for contract and about $200 for my old iPhone 3GS equals $135 for the Samsung Note and can get dump AT&T any time I want = priceless

Does Google Play include Saturday delivery?

UPS 2nd Day Air has an option for saturday deliveries, it may or may not be extra, I know Amazon Prime does it and they use UPS 2 day.
Anyone know if UPS included saturday delivery with all 2 day orders now? Their website makes it seem like its an add-on charge but they dont explicitly say it is.
If it isnt included in all 2 day shipping then does anyone know if Play uses saturday delivery?

Someone please say yes...

usually during holiday season all 2nd day shipping has the saturday option, so possibly. however, i doubt it.

It's been answered a million -1 times. The answer is no.

wngmv said:
It's been answered a million -1 times. The answer is no.
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what is their source?

Does this apply to UK too or just 'merica?

No when I ordered my nexus 7 there was no Saturday delivery

heat361 said:
No when I ordered my nexus 7 there was no Saturday delivery
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did it ship out on a thurs?

idividebyzero said:
did it ship out on a thurs?
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No but others in the nexus 7 forums did and they didn't get it till monday

The answer is no.
UPS charges $15 for Saturday delivery which is more than twice the cost Google charged to deliver the package.

Google really screwed us on this one >=(

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From past experience.
And I called Google and UPS for a Saturday delivery and both rejected. I had to leave town on Monday so I was hoping they would deliver on Saturday.but they wouldn't. I'm sure others had same experience as well.

ohhdavid said:
The answer is no.
UPS charges $15 for Saturday delivery which is more than twice the cost Google charged to deliver the package.
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Well they charged $14, which is a completely ridiculous price in the first place. Amazon gives you saturday delivery for a fraction of that (or included with Prime).
I cant believe they are going to ship on thursday and not include saturday delivery. This is absolute incompetence. 6 day shipping for $14... un f***ing believable.
They should be busting their asses to get these things shipping tonight if they are going to charge that much and not do saturday delivery. Whose dumbass idea was it to ship on the day that would take longest possible shipping time?

OmgitzFire said:
Google really screwed us on this one >=(
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What did google do?
This is getting annoying. "Google screwed us when we were ordering" "Google screwed us when shipping" "Google screwed us with packaging" "google screwed us with 30 units available"
Google didn't screw anyone. The only thing that close was the ordering system. They should have had a pre order.
Shipping. Do you think its easy to ship out probably 10 000 units in 2 days? Shipping is UPS side. Google has nothing to do with shipping. If you want it so bad. Get it from TMO or any place that sells it retail. That way you have it in your hands the second you pay for it.
This is why we can't have nice things. People complains and points fingers when nothing is wrong. Just because they are excited.
You waited for least 2 weeks now. Another week isn't going to ruin your life.

PlanBSTi said:
What did google do?
This is getting annoying. "Google screwed us when we were ordering" "Google screwed us when shipping" "Google screwed us with packaging" "google screwed us with 30 units available"
Google didn't screw anyone. The only thing that close was the ordering system. They should have had a pre order.
Shipping. Do you think its easy to ship out probably 10 000 units in 2 days? Shipping is UPS side. Google has nothing to do with shipping. If you want it so bad. Get it from TMO or any place that sells it retail. That way you have it in your hands the second you pay for it.
This is why we can't have nice things. People complains and points fingers when nothing is wrong. Just because they are excited.
You waited for least 2 weeks now. Another week isn't going to ruin your life.
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Well there you go, a simple pre order would of been enough to help us out and Google didn't do that so yes they screwed us on this one. At least they should have the common decency to give us Saturday shipping or have it listed as an option. But i understand that maybe UPS fault? But still not even preorders were offered .
10,000 units in 2days is trouble some to ship, but from what i have heard, no ones N4 has been shipped yet not even one. (at least in the U.S)
So I stand by my last post :]

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Well they charged $14, which is a completely ridiculous price in the first place. Amazon gives you saturday delivery for a fraction of that (or included with Prime).
I cant believe they are going to ship on thursday and not include saturday delivery. This is absolute incompetence. 6 day shipping for $14... un f***ing believable.
They should be busting their asses to get these things shipping tonight if they are going to charge that much and not do saturday delivery. Whose dumbass idea was it to ship on the day that would take longest possible shipping time?
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$14 for shipping is cheap. Move to canada.
Anything you buy from the states is almost least $20 for 2 weeks delivery time. That's for something that weights a pound. I paid $100 to ship a turbo over from the states to canada. That took 2 weeks. It cost a dealer about $1500 to ship a car. And i'm paying $100 to ship a turbo that weights maybe 15lbs. Both takes about the same time to deliver. That's ridiculous.
Just because companies spoils you with free shipping doesn't mean its ridiculous for another to charge. N4 is stupid cheap as it is. Just be wait.
Unless you are willing to ship something for free and with saturday delivery, don't complain.

It depends to be honest. If you need it sat, my suggestion is to track it. If the phone is in a local distribution center, call them and arrange a pick up
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OmgitzFire said:
At least they should have the common decency to give us Saturday shipping or have it listed as an option. But i understand that maybe UPS fault? But still not even preorders were offered .
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yeah I agree they should have had an option for saturday but think about it from google's POV.
They have a ton of unit to ship and mistakes will happen if they don't keep things simple.
Google isn't a hardware complain, They are a search engine, advertising and software company. So they could only have 100 warehouse workers trying to get everything out vs apple with 1000 (made up number) so its easier for them and have lessen the chance of a mistake. Or shipping the saturday ones with regular shipping times.

Who compares shipping to Amazon? Seriously. Amazon sends a million shipments a day. They have their own carrier distribution facilities. Amazon is in a league of their own with shipping so don't expect other companies to live up to their level.

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$14 for shipping is cheap. Move to canada.
Anything you buy from the states is almost least $20 for 2 weeks delivery time. That's for something that weights a pound. I paid $100 to ship a turbo over from the states to canada. That took 2 weeks. It cost a dealer about $1500 to ship a car. And i'm paying $100 to ship a turbo that weights maybe 15lbs. Both takes about the same time to deliver. That's ridiculous.
Just because companies spoils you with free shipping doesn't mean its ridiculous for another to charge. N4 is stupid cheap as it is. Just be wait.
Unless you are willing to ship something for free and with saturday delivery, don't complain.
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So because you pay international shipping rates it makes sense to charge international rates for domestic shipping as well? If anything that makes the shipping price even more absurd.
Stop acting like Google is some mom and pop company, they are one of the richest companies in the world and have been shipping phones out of Play for the past year with multiple warehouses, they do not pay full price for shipping like we do because they ship thousands of products a month and get bulk discounts like every other retailer. Ive gotten far better and cheaper service from Ebay stores than I have from Play, and they have to pay full price for shipping.
The poor service would be much easier to swallow if they didnt charge far more in shipping than any other retailer on the internet.

Ebay scammers: watch out

It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.

Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
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Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.

M9guy said:
Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
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Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
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That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:

aholeinthewor1d said:
That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
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Many accept credit cards but I would not unless they have high positive feedback as a seller and not just positive as a buyer and I would never give them CC info over the phone or email only through secure ebay checkout. People can still file a chargeback with their credit card company but getting the money back can take months.
My thinking is many deals can be legit I know by personal experience, but yes fraudulent sellers can be weeded out if you investigate before hitting confirm bid or buy it now.

High positive fb isnt always a sure thing; this particular scam targets older acts WITH high positive fb. The thing is you have to make sure that what the seller is selling makes sense. If you see a 1oz gold bar for 300$ (going rate is about 1200) and the seller has 3600 sales @ 100% fb but all hes ever sold was buttons for 1$ run away, run away fast. And thats exactly what this slimeball does, he hacks high sales 100% fb acts and posts the pixel xl for a killer price, chesper even than the Google store.

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It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
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I actually messaged that guy at [email protected] and agreed to a deal for two pixel xl 128gb for JUST $1200
He then proceeds in sending me an invoice which I have to pay via bank transfer. Everything looks like it's perfectly covered by Ebay and is sent by Ebay ([email protected], looks pretty fake to me, but don't know, attached a screenshot)
I then asked him why they don't accept paypal, so I'm covered.
"For the moment we can't accept payment trough PayPal. The payment must be made through Bank Transfer. eBay will be third party in this transaction and will guarantee for both of us. The money will be secured by eBay until you will receive the package. 14 days of inspection - the inspection period starts once you have the items in your hands. This means you have 14 days to decide whether I get the money or not. In case the items are not as I described them, the transaction is canceled and eBay will refund full amount. If the items are as described, the transaction is completed and I will receive the money from eBay. Let me know if I should keep this items reserved for you."
I really don't know if all lies or not, but I obviously canceled the deal.

Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.

Mike02z said:
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
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Yep. It looks pretty legit, though, if you don't have much experience and are hyped for the device. So I believe they really do have success sometimes.

Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.

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Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
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Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.

Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.

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Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
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They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
chazall1 said:
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
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But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..

D4rkSoRRoW said:
They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
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And neither does eBay it appears.
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As long as you always pay with Paypal on ebay you will alway get your money back as with paypal new sellers will get their money held by paypal until the buyer leaves positive feedback or confirms to paypal that they received the item and its as described but you still have a 30 day money back guarantee with ebay.

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And neither does eBay it appears.
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Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.

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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
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Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.

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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
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Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
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Yes but they have been on back order keeping prices very high. The black 128gb pixel xl's were selling on ebay for over $1000.00