Hello this is my first post here so here's a little introduction. I got my TP2 (Rhodiom,Tilt2, whatever) a couple of weeks ago. Before this i had a Mogul, Titan, so I'm not completely new to WM. This is my first HTC with touch flo though. So Ive been doing some research on here about customizing and just want to clarify some things.
So from what i understand there are two different touch flos. Either TF3d or Sensi and customizations of parts of one may not work for the other. There is no way (with just installing cabs) that you can have the background for all pages and a custom clock together and the clock will display properly.
I believe we can share some stuff with the touch hd. i was also wondering what other tf phones we can share themes, custom clocks, icons, etc with. Any help just helping me understand TF3D in general would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome aboard
Yes there is 2 Manila/Sense/touchflo3d versions
2.1 which runs smoother on Rhodium
2.5 more tabs, and 4 icons on home tab eat more RAM
As for themes, you can use any theme from any other device that has WVGA screen.
Hope it helps.
Enjoy!
Related
I've recently upgraded from a Hermes to a FUZE and am playing with the TouchFlo plugin. I am not very familiar with it, but it seems like it has potential. Is there a page/ thread of 'basics'? (some customization details, installing new themes, etc.) I don't want to start creating my own - just yet (but that would be an obvious next step). My biggest request is for there to display more calendar entries at a time.
Thanks!
hmm...
well if u simply click on
Edit TF3D-The Collection! ot themes applicationa and software..it gices you quite a good amount of stuff..
other then that just search it
the calander problem you have can be fixed by downloading the calender tab which will implement it into yout touch flo 3d...SEARCH for the cab..
hope i helped!
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
Landscape support
Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"
Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
k2thejx5 said:
well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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Thanks for your answers man.
You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.
But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
i wanted so much a good rom with 2.5 for my tp2.. what i wanted was a french version of the fusion rom, but as we know, attomang seems to have vanished because of some scamming business he tried...
however here's what i think about the OFFICIAL future of sense 2.5 in landscape : pocket now showed us some leaked pictures of upcoming htc models coming in 2010 (based on some xda informations), and it comes out that there's a tp2-like device coming out.. so if it isn't an android based device, i think we can hope that it will come with 2.5 (and that we can base our future roms on the one that will be provided with it)
---> look at thje third one called "TERA"
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
(sorry if me english bad.. me native language french xD)
EDIT / for /7/ "home creen animated...".. it is present in the official 6.5 upgrade (so it's a winmo6.5 with sense 2.1) -- animated weather is on with the default wallpaper (or you can say when no wallpaper is chosen, or set for the homecreen)
Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
Baldrick1 said:
Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
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WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen.
To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
Baldrick1 said:
Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
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The shortcuts eliminated the Program tab. This is not available in 6.5 to my knowledge.
Find a WM6.5 Rom and you will be able to select your shortcuts the same way as you used to do in the programs tab. Just click on blank box and it pulls up a list.
For Max Manila theme, start here.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
Baldrick1 said:
Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
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Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
Bruce Inman said:
Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for the reply in spite of being set too with Year End.
I think that I have got the basics and as it is completely uninstallable I will be brave and give it a try. Interestingly enough if I am correct my TD2 uses Manila 2.1919xxx rather than 2.5xxxxxxx and so it look slike I am stuck with the first of the CABs given in one of the post in the thread that you have provided. If there are owners with Manila 2.5xxxxxxx loaded as standar on their TD2 then it looks like I have been unlucky...but there you go.
Have a great Festive break...and thanks again for your help.
Cheers
Balders
Glad I could help.
Have a great holiday too.
Manila Version
Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
mpathan said:
Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
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Hi there
I have had trouble finding out the Manila version on my TD2 but believe that manila 2.5 is only officially, ie, by HTC ROM, for the Leo or HD2. Therefore it suggests that your official stock ROM is at Manila 2.1...like mine.
Will post back if I can find a way of finding the actual Manila version displayed.
Cheers
Balders
Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Baldrick1 said:
Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
Bruce Inman said:
Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for that. Have installed on the device...was just a thought.
Having trouble identifying add ons for 2.1 as most seem to be for 2.5, obviously...and I have not plan to install a 2.5 ROM.
Obviously the Settings options are new for 2.5 rather than 2.1...which is a shame but there you go. Can't even find the MMT folder under which you are supposed to install further customisations but I dare say I will take some time over the break to check my phone more carefully.
Thanks for your help.
Happy Holidays to you to!!!!
Ok so I know I'll always have unlimited wallpaper options.
But with this whole TouchFlo 3d thing being new to me obviously the world I know of the old home screens have changed a little. (yes I know I can disable touchflo and have the old back...but I like touchflo).
So I am trying to make sense of what my theme options are for my phone
Tmobile Touch Pro 2 with stock tmobile rom (phone purchased 2 weeks ago)
Windows 6.1
Touch Flo 3D version 2.1
plenty of memory
So what I am asking is a pretty newbish question despite me being a windows mobile user for 6 years.
How the hell do I get new themes now. The whole manila utility has me confused its apparant i cant use it but every theme i seem to find is a manila theme, or it is meant for a WVGA phone like the diamond.
So where can I find some that are Touchflo 3d 2.1 friendly and how do I go about installing them now.
Thanks fellas/ladies hope i dont take up too much of your time with this question
A couple of items you should note:
1. The Touch Diamond's resolution is VGA. The Touch Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2's resolutions are WVGA.
2. Manila and TouchFlo3D basically are used interchangeably.
That said, I've given up on manila themes for now. There are too many manila versions. There's 2.0 (without the weather on the home tab), there's 2.1 (with weather on the home tab), there's 2.5 (ported from HD2), and now there's new versions of 2.5 with documents tab...
Anyway, I suppose the advice is that if the theme is packaged into a cab file, give it a try. If it looks funny on your device, then it's not fully compatible with your manila version. Just uninstall it.
Also, it may be worthwhile to have a look at the link in my signature...
I knew I switched WVGA and VGA thanks for that clarification.
And essentially my options without manila are try and find a theme in a cab otherwise I'll struggle.
I read that manila is not compatable with touchflo 3D 2.1 and above. Or am I missing the whole point of how manila works?
For all intents and purposes, "manila" and "TouchFlo3D" are the same.
"TouchFlo3D" was the marketing term used for the HTC custom interface.
"Manila" is HTC's codename for "TouchFlo3D".
"TouchFlo3D" has since been re-branded as "HTC Sense" to be consistent with their custom UI for their Android devices.
In terms of compatibility, as alluded to before, it depends on the version of Manila on your device and the version the theme was made for.
Are there specific release threads somewhere on here for each version from the creator? I keep constantly running into edits and things like that but I cant find the specific release threads. Thanks for your help so far
I also have the same device only difference is I am running windows 6.5. Just yesterday I downloaded a theme from this same forum. The dusk theme. You'll find it just a page or to past this post. Very simple a lot of cab files. The only trouble Im having is installing the windows media and weather program. But take a look pretty cool theme.
Extracting Theme from another ROM
Ok, so I have a different question. Suppose that I like a theme/icons from one ROM, but like the features/performance from another ROM (and assume they are the same version of sense (2.5 with docs tab.)) Is there a way to extract the theme from the ROM and apply that theme to the other ROM that is installed?
Thanks!!
Ok so the dusk theme is pretty independent (looks like it has manila built in) that should be all I need to start off?
Hi I have been searching the forum quite a while and have not found what i have been searching:
I would like to find an overview about the existing Manila and Sense flavors.
I had an Elf with Blue Elves and have now got an HD with Manila 3D (yet with original FW)
I enjoyed the stock quotes and the player, but am not so lucky about the People screen. The album-like presentation is really suboptimal and I preferred to revert to my good old icon-like People application from Blue Elves (should be manila 2.1, is it?).
Does someone know where to get that screen instead of the new one?
I Really would appreciate an answer...
Thank you for your advice.
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