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HTC problem

Hi, I know I F** up so Im sending my G1 to tmo today but I just want to share my problem with yall so that I wont F** up in the future.
I am super dumb so spare the shotouts please..
I have a G1 that does the following:
Power button = stays booting with Tmo image for ever....
Camera+power = Flashscreen but when I try to flash image it shows not allow...with red numbers 0007002 I think..
Home + Power = 3 options --> 1. Reboot (works) 2. Update (won`t work it says cache/recovery/command not found) 5,215,715 etc files not known. 3. Wipe (works as far as I know).
Also combination Home + back button = back to fabric installation works says press send to go further. But when it restarts does nothing my phone stays loading the tmo image till battery is empty.
The story: I tried to update a zip for hero from youtube and after that nothing worked anymore.
(I did not follow all the steps- bcuz I am stupid!)
What kind of mule am I??????? A big one!
What have I done wrong and is there any point in sending the device to tmo or should I trow it in the trashcan?
Peace and thanks for the laughs

dizzydix said:
Hi, I know I F** up so Im sending my G1 to tmo today but I just want to share my problem with yall so that I wont F** up in the future.
I am super dumb so spare the shotouts please..
I have a G1 that does the following:
Power button = stays booting with Tmo image for ever....
Camera+power = Flashscreen but when I try to flash image it shows not allow...with red numbers 0007002 I think..
Home + Power = 3 options --> 1. Reboot (works) 2. Update (won`t work it says cache/recovery/command not found) 5,215,715 etc files not known. 3. Wipe (works as far as I know).
Also combination Home + back button = back to fabric installation does nothing my phone stays loading the tmo image till battery is empty.
The story: I tried to update a zip for hero from youtube and after that nothing worked anymore.
(I did not follow all the steps- bcuz I am stupid!)
What kind of mule am I??????? A big one!
What have I done wrong and is there any point in sending the device to tmo or should I trow it in the trashcan?
Peace and thanks for the laughs
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What was the update you were trying to flash and what were the steps you took prior to that?

Hi Supremeteam
I took all the files from youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxB_qvM2KU&feature=related
VIDEO NAME: Hero Rom on G1---Jachero 2.3.6-----There is a difference between Theme and Rom.
I DID NOT FOLLOW ALL STEPS!
I think it went dead after I updated the radio or spl. I read somewhere on xda that you must radio first before spl. Maybe that is the problem that I have. BUt I am not sure as I was flashing all day long just to get a hero theme. So I dont know all the steps I did (stupid again)
Thanx

Download THIS reformat sd card to FAT32 using your computer and sdcard reader. put the file on the sdcard. boot using camera+power.

Hi there Fingerlickin
Fingerlickin said:
Download THIS reformat sd card to FAT32 using your computer and sdcard reader. put the file on the sdcard. boot using camera+power.
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I did this a copple of times but it says: not allow ... (and then the red numbers above somthing like 0072008 etc.)
I also tried RC7 but still same error.
I tried to make a goldcard, but I won`t flash, same error.
I dont want to spil anyone`s time so I dont think we can repair the G1 but what I want with this thread is to get the cause of this all.
Is it because I did not follow all the steps?????
Bcuz then I hope every dumbass like me reads this thread before they crush their G1 also.
I knew there was a chance of F**ing up so I took a risk and I`m not crying but I just want tips for the future and to prevent more people of doing such a dumb thing.
Thanx guys

Well if you can get into recovery and bootloader your not bricked. Is your phone rooted? What have you done to it so far? This can prolly be fixed if you can provide us the info we need.

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
Well if you can get into recovery and bootloader your not bricked. Is your phone rooted? What have you done to it so far? This can prolly be fixed if you can provide us the info we need.
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Ok, 2 days ago was the first time I changed anything from Tmo to custom.
My first modification was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfskzfjOMgc
How To Root Android in 1 Click
This worked like a charm and was perfect.
After that I installed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538762
[THEME] HE-AERO v1.6 - 4.0.4/4.1.11.1*Now with Stericson Lockscreen*[9/20]
I had a black panel above my screen and was very happy. Because that is all I wanted.
Then I got greedy and wanted the rom from POST 1.
And then I got all the errors from Post 1.
So really, that is all I can think of I did.

dizzydix said:
Ok, 2 days ago was the first time I changed anything from Tmo to custom.
My first modification was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfskzfjOMgc
How To Root Android in 1 Click
This worked like a charm and was perfect.
After that I installed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538762
[THEME] HE-AERO v1.6 - 4.0.4/4.1.11.1*Now with Stericson Lockscreen*[9/20]
I had a black panel above my screen and was very happy. Because that is all I wanted.
Then I got greedy and wanted the rom from POST 1.
And then I got all the errors from Post 1.
So really, that is all I can think of I did.
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I'm on my work computer so I can't see whats in the youtube link. What version radio do you have? What version spl do you have? Did you format your sd card in 3 partitions?

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
I'm on my work computer so I can't see whats in the youtube link. What version radio do you have? What version spl do you have? Did you format your sd card in 3 partitions?
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I will provide you with the right information if I still can.
Im also at work, and my G1 is in the car. But I dont know if it has enough power bcuz Im going to drop it at the store after work.
But I will try to open the flash screen and note down the specs.
*** Did you format your sd card in 3 partitions? --- That doesn`t ring a bell.
I formated FAT32 but I never heared of 3 partitions, that is new to me.
Peace

dizzydix said:
I will provide you with the right information if I still can.
Im also at work, and my G1 is in the car. But I dont know if it has enough power bcuz Im going to drop it at the store after work.
But I will try to open the flash screen and note down the specs.
*** Did you format your sd card in 3 partitions? --- That doesn`t ring a bell.
I formated FAT32 but I never heared of 3 partitions, that is new to me.
Peace
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You need to have the new radio and spl for hero to fit so if you didn't do that then that could be part of your problem. You card should be in 3 partitions (fat32, ext2/3, and linux-swap). There are several different ways to partition your card. You can do it in Ubuntu (tut in my sig), or you can do it in parted, and couple other ways.

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
You need to have the new radio and spl for hero to fit so if you didn't do that then that could be part of your problem. You card should be in 3 partitions (fat32, ext2/3, and linux-swap). There are several different ways to partition your card. You can do it in Ubuntu (tut in my sig), or you can do it in parted, and couple other ways.
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Haha, ok
Know what`s Ironic.. I left Ubuntu one week ago for Vista.
But I will put a disk in and try you method.
(that is after I send it to the store, it`s always easier to let them do it for you .
I will keep an update..
Peace

dizzydix said:
Haha, ok
Know what`s Ironic.. I left Ubuntu one week ago for Vista.
But I will put a disk in and try you method.
(that is after I send it to the store, it`s always easier to let them do it for you .
I will keep an update..
Peace
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What are you going to have them do?

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
What are you going to have them do?
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I don`t know I just go to the store that I bought it from and I will send it for reparation. They will send it to tmo.
If it can`t be repaired I will get it back and then I will try it myself on sundays when I have nothing to do.
Why?

dizzydix said:
I don`t know I just go to the store that I bought it from and I will send it for reparation. They will send it to tmo.
If it can`t be repaired I will get it back and then I will try it myself on sundays when I have nothing to do.
Why?
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Just want to make sure you don't say what you were doing to it. And they won't send it to T-Mobile they would send it to HTC for repair. But to be completely honest with you, I wouldn't do that. Your phone does not need to be sent off. As soon as you have the phone in front of you and you have time to mess with it, it can be fixed. As long as you can get into bootloader and recovery your good. Its your phone and you can do what you want with it, but it should be an easy fix. Let us walk you thru it first before going.

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
Just want to make sure you don't say what you were doing to it. And they won't send it to T-Mobile they would send it to HTC for repair. But to be completely honest with you, I wouldn't do that. Your phone does not need to be sent off. As soon as you have the phone in front of you and you have time to mess with it, it can be fixed. As long as you can get into bootloader and recovery your good. Its your phone and you can do what you want with it, but it should be an easy fix. Let us walk you thru it first before going.
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Woww, that is a major offer man.
Ok you know what I keep it one more day bcuz I appreciate your help.
I just lost hope bcuz I tried everything I could find on forums and google so I did my research but I couldent get it trough and spend yesterday 12 whole hours on trying to flash and got tired. (thats how much I love my phone).
So once at home I will post a foto or specs of the flash page.
I didnt know someone would really be this kind and helpfull.

dizzydix said:
Woww, that is a major offer man.
Ok you know what I keep it one more day bcuz I appreciate your help.
I just lost hope bcuz I tried everything I could find on forums and google so I did my research but I couldent get it trough and spend yesterday 12 whole hours on trying to flash and got tired. (thats how much I love my phone).
So once at home I will post a foto or specs of the flash page.
I didnt know someone would really be this kind and helpfull.
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There are several of us that are helpfull and don't mind helping. It's just the repeated dumb questions and people that want there hand held for the simplest thing (not saying you). Then thats when we can get ruthless, but yea we will help you out. You will prolly realize after the fact that it was prolly something simple and prolly want to slap yourself for wanting to take it back. lol.

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
There are several of us that are helpfull and don't mind helping. It's just the repeated dumb questions and people that want there hand held for the simplest thing (not saying you). Then thats when we can get ruthless, but yea we will help you out. You will prolly realize after the fact that it was prolly something simple and prolly want to slap yourself for wanting to take it back. lol.
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Hahaha, Im already laughing. I hope I will smack myself.
I hope if its ok to also post some pictures I will make at home in about an hour.
And I may load a video to youtube of the flash screen, maybe it helps.
Who knows.

dizzydix said:
Hahaha, Im already laughing. I hope I will smack myself.
I hope if its ok to also post some pictures I will make at home in about an hour.
And I may load a video to youtube of the flash screen, maybe it helps.
Who knows.
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Yea thats cool to post whatever. Just post when you get settled in.

supremeteam256
supremeteam256 said:
Yea thats cool to post whatever. Just post when you get settled in.
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HI,
Here is the update:
My screen shows (in rainbow screen):
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Sep 2 2008
Serial10

dizzydix said:
HI,
Here is the update:
My screen shows (in rainbow screen):
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Sep 2 2008
Serial10
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Ok I'm gonna have you start from the begining so we are on the same page. First thing I want you to do is download this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EMY1HIVU that is RC29. Also is your card already partitioned to fat32?

<HOW TO> Easy Guide to Using Odin/Unbricking Your Phone

I have noticed that while there are many guides to do this, people still ask the question in threads, so I'll simplify it here. It is meant as an Odin helper.
Make sure you have downloaded the files you need (firmware and odin) from the bottom of this post. I have only included Odin v3.1 and the needed file for UCJF6 restore, cause the jh3 and other stuff is too big to upload directly. This Odin works with all firmwares. Just d/l the desired firmware and use this odin to flash. Just unzip both my files and there you go.
1 - PHONE MUST BE POWERED OFF (not plugged in and pull the battery for 5 seconds if you have to).
2 - Open Odin and choose the files you need. Do everything EXCEPT press start.
3 - HOLD BOTH volume buttons and, while holding them, count to 2 then plug in usb and wait 2-4 more seconds. Phone will enter download mode and Odin will recognize it on a COM.
4 - Press start in Odin. When it completes and your phone reboots, close Odin.
5 - BE PATIENT!!! Your phone may now appear to stick on one of the boot screens or a blackscreen, but it is really doing stuff. Wait 5-10 minutes before you impatient people decide it didnt work.
I can only say this: THIS METHOD HAS NEVER FAILED FOR ME
I hope this helps someone, as someone was kind enough to do for me.....
Enjoy, and happy modding! =)

You should also add how to do it if someone flashes a I9000 rom
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors

You guys should really read the stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

tytdfn said:
You should also add how to do it if someone flashes a I9000 rom
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
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Same procedure.
designgears said:
You guys should really read the stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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I have read almost every sticky here, and I swear of the 15-20 threads I am subscribed to I see AT LEAST 3 a day saying ".... I think my phone is bricked.....", so I figured I'd just put it right there on the 1st easy post in kind of a monkeys-could-do-it-like-this mode. I'm just trying to help those that DON'T read the really long threads. We know they should, but they don't.

techmik67 said:
I have read almost every sticky here, and I swear of the 15-20 threads I am subscribed to I see AT LEAST 3 a day saying ".... I think my phone is bricked.....", so I figured I'd just put it right there on the 1st easy post in kind of a monkeys-could-do-it-like-this mode. I'm just trying to help those that DON'T read the really long threads. We know they should, but they don't.
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It's in the OP... if they cant find it in the thread with the tools how are they going to find it in some random thread?

designgears said:
It's in the OP... if they cant find it in the thread with the tools how are they going to find it in some random thread?
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It seems like most people are messing up AFTER they have the necessary firmware files, which is why I didn't add any links. At least that's what I'm getting from the posts they make.
Honestly, and really I mean no offense here because I love your work AND advice, I see 1 flaw in your post, at least on my captivate which is all i can practice on. Copied from your post:
1. Download and install the correct drivers below (mac and linux don't need drivers)
2. Plug in your usb cable to your phone and computer
3. Open Odin
4. Enter Download Mode (see below)
5. Click Start
If I plug in BEFORE opening Odin, Odin does not pick up my phone. Doing it my way, holding both volume and then inserting usb while holding them with the phone powered off, has NEVER not worked for me. That's all I was trying to clarify for people. Sorry if I stepped on your toes.

Uploaded Odin and stock jf6 to the OP

Then what you can do is ask DG to include this as a method. There is no reason for you posting the same info which is already a sticky thread. This will eventually get lost while the sticky will stay at the top.

Alright i just wanted to say thank you to everyone. With your help i was finally able recover my phone using odin 1click. I have to say thay i was convinced that it was an unrecoverable brick and i had that sick feeling in my stomach but i read, read again, and re read the entrire odin 1click thread, and i discovered that i was booting into stock recov and not download. I think out of the 10 plus times i tried it i actually got it to go into download, by luck im afraid. Anyway the point of my long post is to thank you guys for being so smart lol u saved my phone. And me from getting an ulcer. Note Do Not download circle batt mod with black evo notification bar with the vibrant hybrid rom. from eugene. It Will brick your phone. At least it did mine. Now to figure out if i want to root again after dodging that bullet lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Also i dont care where it gets posted to be honest. I am one of those monkies that probably should not root, but cant help myself trying ti learn all i can from you all lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

flashman2002 said:
Then what you can do is ask DG to include this as a method. There is no reason for you posting the same info which is already a sticky thread. This will eventually get lost while the sticky will stay at the top.
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I didn't even think of that. You are right. Although I personally prefer my 3.1 odin to the 1 click, it should've been added to his, since my main point was/is the ease of getting into d/l mode if needed. I'll think before I start a new thread next time =)

flashman2002 said:
Then what you can do is ask DG to include this as a method. There is no reason for you posting the same info which is already a sticky thread. This will eventually get lost while the sticky will stay at the top.
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It has been in there for about a month now... people don't read which is why that thread is 2093482094823 pages long
did you see how many time I had to post not to flash to an I9000, bolded at the top of the OP like 10 times

techmik67 said:
I didn't even think of that. You are right. Although I personally prefer my 3.1 odin to the 1 click, it should've been added to his, since my main point was/is the ease of getting into d/l mode if needed. I'll think before I start a new thread next time =)
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No worries, it was just a suggestion and I feel that if this method works it would be best up there. Im glad this method worked for you as compared to the other methods.

I'm Screwed!

I have to return my Vibrant to T-Mo and need to unroot. But I don't think I'm really rooted in the first place. I downloaded the RyanZas lagfix app. I clicked on root phone. I went into recovery and reinstalled packages. My phone says it's rooted, but there is no update.zip file anywhere. I can't even find a "download" file in Astro. I have the Superuser icon in my apps, but can't delete that either. I just want to get this phone to where I can send it back to T-Mo without voiding my warranty. Also in the lagfix app, it says I am rooted. I don't even have the option to root, only to unroot. When I try that, it just reboots my phone, but never "unroots".
Another thing...when I look at my free space, I have 1754 mb out of 1917 mb available. If I was rooted, would I have less space available?
I'm sure it's VERY obvious that I'm a newbie to all this, so if you have any ideas for me, please talk to me like I'm a 1st grader ;-)

Well if you unroot.. the superuser icon will disappear

hospo said:
I have to return my Vibrant to T-Mo and need to unroot. But I don't think I'm really rooted in the first place. I downloaded the RyanZas lagfix app. I clicked on root phone. I went into recovery and reinstalled packages. My phone says it's rooted, but there is no update.zip file anywhere. I can't even find a "download" file in Astro. I have the Superuser icon in my apps, but can't delete that either. I just want to get this phone to where I can send it back to T-Mo without voiding my warranty. Also in the lagfix app, it says I am rooted. I don't even have the option to root, only to unroot. When I try that, it just reboots my phone, but never "unroots".
Another thing...when I look at my free space, I have 1754 mb out of 1917 mb available. If I was rooted, would I have less space available?
I'm sure it's VERY obvious that I'm a newbie to all this, so if you have any ideas for me, please talk to me like I'm a 1st grader ;-)
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if it bothers you that much why dont you use odin and go back to stock jfd?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
Seems a bit extreme but that will do it for you, its easy also

Well, like I said, I'm totally new to this and that thread is like trying to read Chinese for me. It doesn't bother me to be rooted. I just need to unroot because I have to send it in to T-Mo for my warranty replacement.
I never flashed any ROMs. I only rooted and applied the lag fix. But now the update.zip file is gone and my phone still says it's rooted.
When I go into the terminal on the phone and try to remove Superuser.apk it tells me it can't because it's a read-only file.
Again, I don't mind that these things are there, I just don't want to have to pay for my phone...again.

hospo said:
Well, like I said, I'm totally new to this and that thread is like trying to read Chinese for me. It doesn't bother me to be rooted. I just need to unroot because I have to send it in to T-Mo for my warranty replacement.
I never flashed any ROMs. I only rooted and applied the lag fix. But now the update.zip file is gone and my phone still says it's rooted.
When I go into the terminal on the phone and try to remove Superuser.apk it tells me it can't because it's a read-only file.
Again, I don't mind that these things are there, I just don't want to have to pay for my phone...again.
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I sent in a phone with bionix final on it rooted and they didn't charge me for it I was having problems with other people not being able to hear me but once I sent it in and got my new one I was not charged any additional fees I'm not even sure they really check the phone they probably just reprogram everything back to stock hell they might not even be looking at the screen you never know, but this is my third vibrant and ive had something on all of the ones I've sent back never heard anything about it you could always try to claim it was refurbished and there was something wrong with it already best of luck anyway
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

seriously, using odin is really very simple, i used odin 1.7 ( no it dont have a virus before anyone says it) only a couple of nights ago after flashing one of eugenes kernels, long story short i was stuck at the boot animation, hadnt backed up like a noob and was stuck, i followed that thread and the hardest part for me was download mode on the phone and thats really simple, seriously if you need it back to total stock have a go at odin

I'd love to have a go at odin, except seriously, when I say I have no idea what I'm doing...I REALLY mean it! Someone has given me all the steps to use odin, but quite frankly, I still don't know where to start. Do I download part on my computer, then move it onto the phone? Where do I put it on the phone? How do I get in download mode? See...NO CLUE. I really shouldn't have ever rooted for the mere fact that I have no idea what I'm doing, lol.
I think I may just go back to factory reset (again) and roll the dice hoping they don't charge me.

hospo said:
Well, like I said, I'm totally new to this and that thread is like trying to read Chinese for me. It doesn't bother me to be rooted. I just need to unroot because I have to send it in to T-Mo for my warranty replacement.
I never flashed any ROMs. I only rooted and applied the lag fix. But now the update.zip file is gone and my phone still says it's rooted.
When I go into the terminal on the phone and try to remove Superuser.apk it tells me it can't because it's a read-only file.
Again, I don't mind that these things are there, I just don't want to have to pay for my phone...again.
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Can't you root it again and then unroot it...
The thread that has the Odin instructions is only 6 steps...well 5 steps since the last says "wait for it to complete". It's not as daunting as it seems...
I'd love to have a go at odin, except seriously, when I say I have no idea what I'm doing...I REALLY mean it! Someone has given me all the steps to use odin, but quite frankly, I still don't know where to start. Do I download part on my computer, then move it onto the phone? Where do I put it on the phone? How do I get in download mode? See...NO CLUE. I really shouldn't have ever rooted for the mere fact that I have no idea what I'm doing, lol.
I think I may just go back to factory reset (again) and roll the dice hoping they don't charge me.
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You download Odin to your computer with the .pit & the .tar file then run it from there. There's a video tutorial in the Vibrant Bible sticky in the Dev forum.
~SB

You don't understand because you aren't TRYING to understand. Odin is as simple as a few mouse clicks. Seriously.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

video how to odin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810130
video how to download mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxearzXrVY

okay, I sucked it up, got over my fear, got everything downloaded. Phone was in download mode, then went black. Now all I can get on it is a picture of a cell phone, then an exclamation point, then a pic of a computer.
I really am trying to understand. I did get the files needed and the phone in download mode. Opened odin, put the files in while my phone was in download mode and plugged in. Then the above happened.

OMG!!!!!! I think it is finally working!!!! Thank you for your help!!!
Even after all this, I'm sure I won't stop tinkering, lol.
Who knows, maybe I won't have to trade in my phone after doing this? I was really worried about getting the refurb. I'm supposed to get it today, but I'm going to mess around with mine to see if it truly is back to its old beautiful self!
Thanks again everyone!!

That is SUPPOSED to happen. Now click "Start."
Edit: I see you got it now. Congrats.

hospo said:
OMG!!!!!! I think it is finally working!!!! Thank you for your help!!!
Even after all this, I'm sure I won't stop tinkering, lol.
Who knows, maybe I won't have to trade in my phone after doing this? I was really worried about getting the refurb. I'm supposed to get it today, but I'm going to mess around with mine to see if it truly is back to its old beautiful self!
Thanks again everyone!!
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it worried me using odin at first, but when you actually use it, its really very simple, now im hooked on flashing roms lol and using odin to go back when i stuff something up lol

kangxi said:
You don't understand because you aren't TRYING to understand. Odin is as simple as a few mouse clicks. Seriously.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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yeah exactly, i was a totally new to odin and thought it was some hard thing to use, it was so simple, i couldnt believe it, get your pantys out of a wad and actually look it up

Did anyone else just get forced to update?

I didn't update, as I knew the new update breaks root, but ATT just force restarted my device and started the install process.

Bramsey89 said:
I didn't update, as I knew the new update breaks root, but ATT just force restarted my device and started the install process.
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A little reading would have saved you a lot of trouble.

scott14719 said:
A little reading would have saved you a lot of trouble.
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I did read jackass. It said "There is an update available." And there was only one button "Continue"
I hit the back button, nothing. I hit the power button, put it to sleep, when it came back the only option was still "continue."

Bramsey89 said:
I did read. It said "There is an update available." And there was only one button "Continue"
I hit the back button, nothing. I hit the power button, put it to sleep, when it came back the only option was still "continue."
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I meant read the threads about the update that have already been posted here in the general AT&T S4 sub forum. There are at least 2 threads about this in the top 10 threads of the first page. Not only does they discuss the OTA in detail but there are several posts that explain how to prevent it, how to stop it after it starts, and how to avoid it after the fact, etc...

I was barely able to freeze the updater in time. I should really check the forums more often. I didn't know about the update until now.
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This is how the AT&T updater works. If you keep delaying it, it will just install it automatically when you are not using the phone - like overnight or something.

scott14719 said:
I meant read the threads about the update that have already been posted here in the general AT&T S4 sub forum. There are at least 2 threads about this in the top 10 threads of the first page. Not only does they discuss the OTA in detail but there are several posts that explain how to prevent it, how to stop it after it starts, and how to avoid it after the fact, etc...
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Oh sorry I wasn't browsing the XDA forums while at work today.

I do not do updates, but can't you just go do a factory reset? Or can you get into recovery somehow, and flash a custom rom? I am just throwing things out that I would try.
I am probably wrong here, but I have never done an update, even on my G3 back in the day.
You can tell me to shut up too.

TheAxman said:
I do not do updates, but can't you just go do a factory reset? Or can you get into recovery somehow, and flash a custom rom? I am just throwing things out that I would try.
I am probably wrong here, but I have never done an update, even on my G3 back in the day.
You can tell me to shut up too.
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Well since the update appears to block root and has a new bootloader which means loki is most likely patched...and odin appears to fail right away with any phone on this new update...I would say once updated you are screwed until some new exploits come out...ao avoid the update like the plague
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Now I am confused, I think he hasn't updated yet, and it keeps forcing the update, am I wrong here?

Bramsey,
Scott is right, there are blocking the OTA instructions on a few threads. It did how ever take me a good 20 minutes to find them. So if I may help you:
How to Block OTA
Prerequisites
Must be rooted!
Must have a root level file manager. I prefer ES File Explorer
Instuctions
Start root explorer app
Mount /system as read/write
Navigate to /system/app/
Rename wssyncmldm.apk -> wssyncmldm.apk.bak
Reboot
[CREDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946 and scrosler]

[Q] KitKat on a rooted Note 3.

Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU

Dardwizzle said:
Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU
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does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.

antique_sonic said:
does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
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Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
>USB debugging off? turn it on. <--- It is and has been turned on in an effort to try to sideload KitKat, but that was a hug fail. But I will leave it on for this discussion.
>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU

Dardwizzle said:
Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
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do check, is it running in background ? check your task manager. if so, kill the process. Kies should not run together with ODIN. Otherwise sometimes will give problem to your ODIN process.
I normally only install the USB driver only, as this is the only thing needed to connect your phone to comp (as MTP, or as ODIN connection).
Dardwizzle said:
>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
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ok, in a very simple word. download mode is basically a state whereby your phone is ready to download system files and install the system files on your device.
This is the only state possible to get a connection to your ODIN PC to flash stock firmware, recovery (in .tar/.md5 format).
How to get the KK ROM ?
1) identify your device. which model it is. N9005? N900T? N900A? N900 blablabla?
2) goto samfirmware.com (register there if you don't have account. it is free). after that you can just find your firmware by typing on the search device textbox your device model (e.g N9005), and it will come out the list of your device firmware (normally they will show for the latest firmware list)
3) choose the firmware that you want to download (if your device N9005 international 32 gb, try to avoid the Hongkong / Taiwan firmware, as they have different PIT partition).
4) once you have the downloaded zip file from samfirmware, extract the zip, and then you will get the (.tar/.md5) file. Now you can use to flash this one over ODIN.
Dardwizzle said:
> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
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no. no. no.
This is how to go into download mode in your device
Not yet talking about factory reset.
But yes, you have to backup your internal storage, as sometimes upgrading will cost you to do factory reset, and your internal storage will be gone.
Dardwizzle said:
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
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up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
Dardwizzle said:
Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU
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no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.

antique_sonic said:
up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.
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Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!

Dardwizzle said:
Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!
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I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
http://www.droidviews.com/install-android-4-4-2-kitkat-ota-on-att-galaxy-note-3-sm-900a/
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
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antique_sonic said:
I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
(I had to remove the link as the website thought I was adding it and gave me a no no warning that I can't post outside links cause I be a newbie!) BAH!!!
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
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Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding. It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight. I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me. I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!

Dardwizzle said:
Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding.
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No worries and yeah you should try to find first. by this way, you will learn faster, compare if someone do the spoonfeed.
Dardwizzle said:
It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight.
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My pleasure to help. And no worries for late reply, as I will do the same when I busy with my real life job.
Dardwizzle said:
I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me.
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you are welcome mate. I'm sorry to read the news about your conditions. I can't say anything about this, but wish you all the best. Don't ever feel down in whichever state you are, just do the best in life, and we will never regret that 1 more day has passed.
Dardwizzle said:
I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!
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GOOD !!!
go and grab sales, rather than you brick the phone.
Once again, u r welcome mate.