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No sms account after hard rest

Hello,
I just gave my magician (t-mobile mda compact) a hard reset because it was getting a little slow. Because i was going to do a hard reset anyway i decided to install the newest T-mobile rom update 1.13. I didn't want all the T-mobile customization, so i did the softreset trick, and installed the cabs i did need afterwards manually. Everything is working allright except for sms messages. I made a backup of my sms messages with Jeyo mobile companion, and tried to restore. The thing is that the whole sms folder is gone, and it doesnt return by restoring the backup. My guess is that i forgot to install a cab file... If someone knows which cab file I should install or if there is another solution I would be very gratefull.
Greetz Sander
Edit: I found the solution on this forum, the problem was Sprite backup (offcourse) I downloaded their own tool to reset the entire mail segment, it worked. A link for people with the same problem http://www.spritesoftware.com/downloads/CleanMail.zip and yeah I know I should've had searched a little better :wink:

Backup Software Found!

I bought Spb Backup a couple of days ago and have just had a major problem with no option but to hard reset.
Spb Backup... wow!
It put me right back to where I was before, applications, Registry hacks all my vga settings.. the lot! its like I never even did a hard reset!
The backup file was stored on the SD card and its an excutable, you just run it, correct the clock and hey presto jobs a goodun! 8)
oh and activesync didnt see any difference!

Did you notice any duplication of application icons, something I notice in another backup application?

That's true. Nice program and cheaper than Sprite backup......

cktlcmd said:
Did you notice any duplication of application icons, something I notice in another backup application?
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Nope didn't notice any duplication, not found any ill affects and like previously said its cheap

dherrero said:
That's true. Nice program and cheaper than Sprite backup......
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Ya, also Spb seems to have much better compression than Sprite.. AND Spb leaves you with an exe thats self installable

One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?

cktlcmd said:
One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?
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Haven't tried that, I don't see why not. The only problem that you might have is if you have scheduled backups setup.. because the app needs to wake the system and the SD card may not be ready quick enough. I have mine installed in the extended ROM.
Download the trial and give it a shot

How do you install it to extended ROM?

One problem I found with SPB Backup, whilst backing up, it hangs at midpoint and then finally finishes but with an error message stating that file 'history.txt' wasnt backed up. Happens everytime. Any idea why?
Thanks. Cheers

I have been trialling this in Beta for a month or so. Even the beta's were good.
However, I do recommend anybody that is considering using it after a failure or error, to hard reset the device prior to the restore, otherwise it overrides and adds to what is already there, so if there are extra files and extra registry entries, they will remain.
The originals will all be restored correctly though, so you are unlikely to detect a problem.
I have restored, and hard reset on many occassions throughout the beta, and it works a dream.

Is it possible to backup, upgrade to a new complete ROM and then restore?
Or when you upgrade to a new rom you cannot use older ROMs backup?
Thank you.

I dont believe you can restore over an upgraded rom.
primarily cause the rom files are not copied. my entire backup, compressed 11mb.
you probably could, and when we were fiddling with WM2003SE for the himalaya model, we used this peculiar feature to do that.
YOu might try it and see, but some of the system files, dlls and hidden files may get modified some how, dont know enough about it. depends on the size and extent of the upgrade, it will probably work, but maybe a little unstable.
Either way, its not recommended. What I do is a fresh rebuild without syncing, with all my registrations, connections, and website usernames and all customisations done, and then call it a "virgin" backup, so that it can always be a perfect starting point for a base machine on a new ROM. This is then kept for te life of that ROM incase I want to go back to a nice clean environment without to much effort.

Hi does anyone know if this will backup txt messages to

cktlcmd said:
One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?
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yes, you cand. I did it

simon_darley said:
I have been trialling this in Beta for a month or so. Even the beta's were good.
However, I do recommend anybody that is considering using it after a failure or error, to hard reset the device prior to the restore, otherwise it overrides and adds to what is already there, so if there are extra files and extra registry entries, they will remain.
The originals will all be restored correctly though, so you are unlikely to detect a problem.
I have restored, and hard reset on many occassions throughout the beta, and it works a dream.
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You shouldnt, bacause you need to restore the registry to make your apps working again but in the new ROM the registry structure or data may (and normally do) change, so you would corrupt the new rom

scotjen1 said:
Hi does anyone know if this will backup txt messages to
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Yep, it backs up all your text messages and your emails

Thanks vbjoe am installing now.

Problems on my JASJAR
First of all it duplicates Alarm notifications on my JASJAR. Secondly if you hard reset the device and then restore the backup, it always hangs at almost 100%. Had to cancel the restore and restart the device. But once restarted, it looks like everything is restored despite that restore hangup. But i am not certain, might be some problem in restoring with i come across later in future.
Can't depend on it.

Backup program
Try Sunnysoft backup manager.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51

hangs happened to me, i left it on its own and it did finish restore on my wizard

'Start Menu > Settings' Folder EMPTY???

Hi all, I wonder if anyone can help on this one - I've been googling for the last 3 hrs and not been able to really find any solution.
I seem to have lost my 'Settings' folder
When I click on 'Start > Settings', my system just hangs.
If I Hard reset it's there again, but when I clone back to current - gone
I REALLY don't want to have to go through the whole installing process again, I've just spent the last month Installing, Resetting, Installing, add infinitum; now, when I seem to have found and tested all the apps that I want. installed them, registered them, etc., the LAST thing I need now is to have to start from scratch!!!
So, PLEASE - give me a clue how to add this back and remove the one and only issue I have with this build!! P L E A S E ! ! !
Bird
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Have also found that the three settings tabs are also no longer recogniseable in other programs - I have SPB Shell 2.0 installed, and it usually shows all the options from the Settings folder in it's Settings tab - not any more!!
Also Pocket Mechanic comes up with the 'Cannot load file 'unload'...' message if you try to uninstall anything! - from surfing it seems that these are related!
It looks as if I WILL have to reinstall everything - going to have to do it the REALLY slow way and clone after EVERY install on the system "sigh!".
I'll give it 48 hrs of hoping that some really narly uber geek out there can come to my rescue, else I'll have to geek it myself!
CALLING ALL UBER GEEKS - help this poor lame nerdoid out!!

as i understand you have made backup of a broken WM and when you restore it it restores the broken parts too, the easyer solution for you is to use PIMBackup for all your mail, contacts SMS MMS etc. , Hard reset, install all of the software you use then restore the backup from there and after your device is properly configured then back it up with a backup software (some backup software do not work well in wm 6 use only compatible versions, also you can not restore WM2003,WM5 or difrend build backup to WM6 rom this action may cause unpredictable bugs)

Yah, looks like it's the only option!
I think that this is going to be the only option xplode, thanks for the second opinion!
I was hoping to find another solution, but it seems this will be the only one - oh well!
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as i understand you have made backup of a broken WM and when you restore it it restores the broken parts too, the easyer solution for you is to use PIMBackup for all your mail, contacts SMS MMS etc. , Hard reset, install all of the software you use then restore the backup from there and after your device is properly configured then back it up with a backup software (some backup software do not work well in wm 6 use only compatible versions, also you can not restore WM2003,WM5 or difrend build backup to WM6 rom this action may cause unpredictable bugs)
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B.T.W. xplode, I now have 2 BA's to play with, so if you need a tester for any ROMs or anything, let me know! After all, once I get this thing sorted, I'll have a backup and can flash and reclone in minutes! This goes for Helmi and the other gods of the ROMs, too.
Bird

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Problem restoring SMS with PIMBackup on Alex-V ROM (WM6.5 23529)

Hi,
I just flashed my Orbit 2 with the W6.5 ROM from Alex-V. Followed the howto from
fktsndr (Thread ID: 384084). Then I restored my SMS via PIMBackup. I just chose SMS to restore. However I got weird results. The SMS have wrong date stamps, cut text, wrong mapping of SMS body text to sender. When I go to my SMS folder it seems that their is an ongoing process which adds messages. After a while the system hangs. If I reset after 10 mins. I just see the O2 Splash screen and system hangs, so I have to do a hard reset.
I' ve got around 1500 SMS. Restoring contacts and call history works fine.
I tried wm6.5 German com5 23529 alex-V (flip clock)_10.02_input 2.1.rar and wm6.5 German com5 23529 alex-V 10.02 input 2.1 lite.rar
Hope somebody can help me. Thanks in advance!
Best regards
Andreas

andreaswnm said:
Hi,
I just flashed my Orbit 2 with the W6.5 ROM from Alex-V. Followed the howto from
fktsndr (Thread ID: 384084). Then I restored my SMS via PIMBackup. I just chose SMS to restore. However I got weird results. The SMS have wrong date stamps, cut text, wrong mapping of SMS body text to sender. When I go to my SMS folder it seems that their is an ongoing process which adds messages. After a while the system hangs. If I reset after 10 mins. I just see the O2 Splash screen and system hangs, so I have to do a hard reset.
Restoring contacts and call history works fine.
I tried wm6.5 German com5 23529 alex-V (flip clock)_10.02_input 2.1.rar and wm6.5 German com5 23529 alex-V 10.02 input 2.1 lite.rar
Hope somebody can help me. Thanks in advance!
Best regards
Andreas
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Why you make a new thread for that problem...for things like this...my rom thread is the right place for this...!!!!
but anythere...i don´t have problems with this...but can you try install pim backup new...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
Hope it help....
edit: have you flashed like this...the way you flash is very important
If you have problems after flash my rom....restart....flash Orginal rom + hard reset if you see the calibration screen after that flash my rom also with a hard reset....after a complete boot a soft reset
edit 2: in your previous rom have you threaded sms or normal ...??
edit 3: try a other backup file...and is it the same with a other file..??

Thank you for the quick answer!
I'll repeat the flashing and I will carefully follow your instructions. Hope this helps. Actually since you have the same device. I come from W6.1 (original O2 branded) where I had threaded SMS. When I try other backup files or even I use the same file again I got different results. All are weird.

andreaswnm said:
Thank you for the quick answer!
I'll repeat the flashing and I will carefully follow your instructions. Hope this helps. Actually since you have the same device. I come from W6.1 (original O2 branded) where I had threaded SMS. When I try other backup files or even I use the same file again I got different results. All are weird.
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mmhh..strange...so please try a reflash with the flash instructions....it´s very very important to flash this way...i have also problems if i flash any rom and make it not like the explained way...
but if the problem after flash is the same...try to reinstall pimbackup...and let me know...
edit: have tried again and restore a pim backup file...and it´s ok...no problems...

So I followed your instruction, but same result. The step where I am not sure is after I did the the hard reset after installing the original rom. You wrote I should then flash your rom. Does it matter whether I boot with original rom, connect with ActiveSync and then flash according to the instructions of the Flash Tool or shall I go into boot loader and then flash?
It all sounds strange for me. Because according to my experience with other computer stuff it either works or it doesn't. Strange behaviour like restoring half the sms on a weird way and at same time Windows, Internet, and all the tools, I tested, operating (slow) but reliable doesn't sound like a flash problem as more as an incompatibility of PIM Backup with W6.5. May be the bug occurs only with a certain number of SMS.

Problem nailed down: I figured out that I cannot restore my SMS even on the original ROM so it seems to be more a problem with a corrupted archive.
Fortunately I have a fallback with a dumped ROM respectively a Sprite Backup. Cross fingers that that works. ****y PIM Backup.

andreaswnm said:
So I followed your instruction, but same result. The step where I am not sure is after I did the the hard reset after installing the original rom. You wrote I should then flash your rom. Does it matter whether I boot with original rom, connect with ActiveSync and then flash according to the instructions of the Flash Tool or shall I go into boot loader and then flash?
It all sounds strange for me. Because according to my experience with other computer stuff it either works or it doesn't. Strange behaviour like restoring half the sms on a weird way and at same time Windows, Internet, and all the tools, I tested, operating (slow) but reliable doesn't sound like a flash problem as more as an incompatibility of PIM Backup with W6.5. May be the bug occurs only with a certain number of SMS.
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it sounds very strange for me too...because i tried myself...pim backup and it works ok for me...i try a 2. attempt with a other file...and all ok....so something is wrong on your phone...
in pim backup i take the option for add only new..to database...and after the backup process the left softkey says..exit....after that i go to sms and all is ok....
for flash...after hard reset the original rom...it boots and the calibrtion screen comes again...i flash my rom....

andreaswnm said:
Problem nailed dow: I figured out that I cannot restore my SMS even on the original ROM so it seems to be more a problem with a corrupted archive.
Fortunately I have a fallback with a dumped ROM respectively a Sprite Backup. Cross fingers that that works. ****y PIM Backup.
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Ok...sorry for the corrupted archive...yes...pim backup is not the staple(sed) program...Cross fingers

Thank you for your support. I appreciate that!

andreaswnm said:
Thank you for your support. I appreciate that!
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I´m here for questions and answers....
edit: hope next time i can help you more

In my case PIMbackup is not trully wm6.5 compliant. I think it has a high peak of resources consumption so sometimes is simply gets the ppc frozen, At least in my case, the same backup file gets loaded or freezes the ppc, depending on how many things load at the same time, etc. Most of the times after a soft reset everything is there so it is not a big issue in my case.
Have you tried MyPhone? I do not use any more neither PIMBackup nor ActiveSync since I tried MyPhone ... (I resisted since windows software tends to turn my skin red!)

cruiserrr said:
In my case PIMbackup is not trully wm6.5 compliant. I think it has a high peak of resources consumption so sometimes is simply gets the ppc frozen, At least in my case, the same backup file gets loaded or freezes the ppc, depending on how many things load at the same time, etc. Most of the times after a soft reset everything is there so it is not a big issue in my case.
Have you tried MyPhone? I do not use any more neither PIMBackup nor ActiveSync since I tried MyPhone ... (I resisted since windows software tends to turn my skin red!)
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i use both...myphone is nice and all but you need connection...ive tested pimbackup to the max and have yet found any issue...currently it restores more than 300 contacs, more than 4000 sms, plus emails, logs, history...it seems lockedup but its working...it uses alot the cpu so it may seem locked but its still working...great software...but as always use whatever works...
cheers

I have found out, that for some reasons PIM Backup is not working correctly all the time. During Backup it throws sometimes some messages, that it cannot access certain files. After that it ends normally but I cannot find the backup file anywhere.
In the end I managed somehow to restore my SMS. However I did this using Megan ROM. Therefore I restored the original system, did the backup again as plain text (not binary), had contacts and SMS in anextra file. Flashed the new ROM and restored everything. Now I am too annoyed of all the flashing, so that I won't test it with Alex's ROM again.

andreaswnm said:
I have found out, that for some reasons PIM Backup is not working correctly all the time. During Backup it throws sometimes some messages, that it cannot access certain files. After that it ends normally but I cannot find the backup file anywhere.
In the end I managed somehow to restore my SMS. However I did this using Megan ROM. Therefore I restored the original system, did the backup again as plain text (not binary), had contacts and SMS in anextra file. Flashed the new ROM and restored everything. Now I am too annoyed of all the flashing, so that I won't test it with Alex's ROM again.
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no problem but can you make the thread as solved..?? ( the headline of this thread->advanced edit first post)

I did face similar problems with my SMS too
but I made peace with it

UnholyGod said:
I did face similar problems with my SMS too
but I made peace with it
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i can only say that i tried it again and again and again....and 100 % Ok....i have no problem with pim backup not in my english rom and also not in my german rom...so i don´t know whats the problem...sorry

I tried a hell lot of ways , but finally adb pull worked for me
In Recovery mode with data mounted use the pull command
adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Try it as the last option if nothing works

Not Enough Memory

i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2), everytime i try to open skyfire or send an MMS it gives and error saying 'not eneough memory, free up some memory and try again' i keep checking the task manager and there aren't any other apps working. the photo tab on manila hangs almost all the time as well. have tried removing CHT 2.0 but that didn't help at all...infact without CHT it dosent even seem like the same phone it.
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.

clean up and move cache folders as described in tips and tricks thread

SreePillai said:
i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2)....
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.
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Yes, the restore is the problem. After a ROM upgrade you can only bring your documents, contacts and calender - if you try to bring the old system files & registry as well you will have only trouble. Hard reset and start from scratch.

SreePillai said:
i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2), everytime i try to open skyfire or send an MMS it gives and error saying 'not eneough memory, free up some memory and try again' i keep checking the task manager and there aren't any other apps working. the photo tab on manila hangs almost all the time as well. have tried removing CHT 2.0 but that didn't help at all...infact without CHT it dosent even seem like the same phone it.
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.
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Thanks. I think it's not a good idea for me to upgrade to stock rom now. I am using sprite backup on 1.48.xxxx wwe rom and I am quite happy with that rom with htc updates installed manually on the device.
May be you have already tried that but if you would use sprite backup then there is an option of merge level 1 in restore options of sprite backup which will try to restore your backup to a new rom from an old rom backup (as in your case). I don't know that such option exist in spb backup as I don't use that program.
If you haven't tried it yet you may do so and I am not the promoter of sprite backup as some ppl. may take me wrong. It was just my 2 cent advice.
Thanks again.