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I bought Spb Backup a couple of days ago and have just had a major problem with no option but to hard reset.
Spb Backup... wow!
It put me right back to where I was before, applications, Registry hacks all my vga settings.. the lot! its like I never even did a hard reset!
The backup file was stored on the SD card and its an excutable, you just run it, correct the clock and hey presto jobs a goodun! 8)
oh and activesync didnt see any difference!
Did you notice any duplication of application icons, something I notice in another backup application?
That's true. Nice program and cheaper than Sprite backup......
cktlcmd said:
Did you notice any duplication of application icons, something I notice in another backup application?
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Nope didn't notice any duplication, not found any ill affects and like previously said its cheap
dherrero said:
That's true. Nice program and cheaper than Sprite backup......
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Ya, also Spb seems to have much better compression than Sprite.. AND Spb leaves you with an exe thats self installable
One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?
cktlcmd said:
One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?
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Haven't tried that, I don't see why not. The only problem that you might have is if you have scheduled backups setup.. because the app needs to wake the system and the SD card may not be ready quick enough. I have mine installed in the extended ROM.
Download the trial and give it a shot
How do you install it to extended ROM?
One problem I found with SPB Backup, whilst backing up, it hangs at midpoint and then finally finishes but with an error message stating that file 'history.txt' wasnt backed up. Happens everytime. Any idea why?
Thanks. Cheers
I have been trialling this in Beta for a month or so. Even the beta's were good.
However, I do recommend anybody that is considering using it after a failure or error, to hard reset the device prior to the restore, otherwise it overrides and adds to what is already there, so if there are extra files and extra registry entries, they will remain.
The originals will all be restored correctly though, so you are unlikely to detect a problem.
I have restored, and hard reset on many occassions throughout the beta, and it works a dream.
Is it possible to backup, upgrade to a new complete ROM and then restore?
Or when you upgrade to a new rom you cannot use older ROMs backup?
Thank you.
I dont believe you can restore over an upgraded rom.
primarily cause the rom files are not copied. my entire backup, compressed 11mb.
you probably could, and when we were fiddling with WM2003SE for the himalaya model, we used this peculiar feature to do that.
YOu might try it and see, but some of the system files, dlls and hidden files may get modified some how, dont know enough about it. depends on the size and extent of the upgrade, it will probably work, but maybe a little unstable.
Either way, its not recommended. What I do is a fresh rebuild without syncing, with all my registrations, connections, and website usernames and all customisations done, and then call it a "virgin" backup, so that it can always be a perfect starting point for a base machine on a new ROM. This is then kept for te life of that ROM incase I want to go back to a nice clean environment without to much effort.
Hi does anyone know if this will backup txt messages to
cktlcmd said:
One more question please. Can I store and run SPB Backup application from my SD Card?
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yes, you cand. I did it
simon_darley said:
I have been trialling this in Beta for a month or so. Even the beta's were good.
However, I do recommend anybody that is considering using it after a failure or error, to hard reset the device prior to the restore, otherwise it overrides and adds to what is already there, so if there are extra files and extra registry entries, they will remain.
The originals will all be restored correctly though, so you are unlikely to detect a problem.
I have restored, and hard reset on many occassions throughout the beta, and it works a dream.
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You shouldnt, bacause you need to restore the registry to make your apps working again but in the new ROM the registry structure or data may (and normally do) change, so you would corrupt the new rom
scotjen1 said:
Hi does anyone know if this will backup txt messages to
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Yep, it backs up all your text messages and your emails
Thanks vbjoe am installing now.
Problems on my JASJAR
First of all it duplicates Alarm notifications on my JASJAR. Secondly if you hard reset the device and then restore the backup, it always hangs at almost 100%. Had to cancel the restore and restart the device. But once restarted, it looks like everything is restored despite that restore hangup. But i am not certain, might be some problem in restoring with i come across later in future.
Can't depend on it.
Backup program
Try Sunnysoft backup manager.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
hangs happened to me, i left it on its own and it did finish restore on my wizard
Hi Everyone,
Which Backup program do you use? Is there one you recommend? All this hacking my Cingular 8525 around has had me hard-reset at least twice within the last week. I need a good and reliable backup program since installing all of my software is taking me over 2.5 hours of time.
Thanks for responding.
ADP
spb backup has never let me down.well worth trying.
sprite also gets good reviews but I've never used it.
read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I've tried different backup programs with my TyTN.
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
I've already restored my data after hard reset with this program (not once) and all is good.
i use spb also, works great
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
mnez said:
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
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goestoeleven said:
Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Use Sprite Backup in this case, it'll work unless you try to cross-restore between AKU2.x and AKU3.x. And please DO read my above-linked article; in there, I've also elaborated on this very question.
bobstarina said:
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
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Strange you had problems with the otehr alternates (Sunnysoft Backup, SKTools 3.0, Sprite 5.1). Are you sure you tried the LATEST versions of them? It's only lately that, for example, Sunnysoft Backup received REAL WM5 support.
Also please read the Backup Bible I've linked in above if you need more info on all these questions.
MilanoRex said:
Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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Both of you are correct. Sprite DOES work great in most cases, except for restoring AKU3 content under AKU2 and vice versa.
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
Sprite works well for me
strikeIII said:
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
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It will restore your registry changes too. Otehrwise, it wouldn't work at all with a lot of third-party apps that also use the Registry to store their stuff / settings.
Does anyone know if Spb backup will back up outlook notes?
Sprite is the only one worth getting since you can restore after a ROM or device change Just make sure you RTFM before you go changing anything as there are things you need to do before hand
Interesting to hear that Sprite Backup works without problems for all of you. On my TyTN, when it wants to reboot before beginning a backup, the TyTN gets stuck at the Windows Mobile screen. Removing/re-inserting the battery usually allows the boot process to finish - but only until the next reboot. After that, all subsequent reboots show that behaviour, no matter if initiated by Sprite Backup or otherwise. And very strangley, after a day or two this phenomenon disappears slowly. A hard reset fixes the problem immediately - at least until I re-install Sprite Backup or restore an (executable) backup I made earlier.
What's even more strange is that this seems to be reproducable, even across different ROM versions. I saw that first with the O2 Germany ROM my Trion came with, and also after I updated to the south-african WWE ROM.
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Daniel
I, i already searched a lot for my problem, and I do not know where exactly post my problem, so I'll post it here in hope for a litle help
Here it goes: I have update my wwe Leo to 1.66 rom a few days ago, and because I have tons of paches installed that I downloaded here ( by the way, thanks alot for your explendid work ) , I used SPB Backup to restore all the stuff.
When I finished to flash the phone, everything was fine, but after re-load the backup, the sms list has become a mess. When I open the sms list, the characters are HUGE, and I can't even read the text. I have put the character size to the minimum, and it does almost anything.... :'(
Is there a problem with the backup, or should I hard-reset the phone and install all the programs manually?
Thanks...
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should I hard-reset the phone and install all the programs manually?
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Yes, that´s the way.
What I would do is to hard reset your phone then restore th SPB Backup file as follows:
- Go to Customized Restore and click on it
- Then select PIM, Emails and My Documents
- DO NOT tick the System Data option
Restore as normal, soft reset you phone and see. Any problems, come back.
WB
Thanks a lot, I'll do it like that
It will be a mess to re-install all the programs, but it will be worth
Hi there,
I just did the ROM upgrade on my phone from 1.48 to 1.66. After using SPB Backup to restore my files from 1.48, I had an issue with the restoration (HTC Sense refused to load) and had to hard reset. The restoration then worked fine, but I checked my ROM now and it's back to 1.48. Was it the hard reset I did after my failed restoration? Am I going to have to install the ROM update every time I want to hard reset my phone? This was my first upgrade, so be gentle!
Thanks,
David
if the rom version is reading anything but 1.66 then the flash failed. a hard reset will not change the installed rom. I would guess either the flash to 1.66 failed, our for some reason your backup software restored some system files that shouldn't have been backed up.
that's why I never back anything up(well except syncing contacts of course, and keeping my data on sd card)
always better to spend half hour re installing progs from scratch in my opinion.
Don't think the ROM upgrade failed - went through the whole thing without problems. Going to give it another go just now - will hard reset my phone and see what ROM details it gives me after.
The ROM version is stored in the registry in order for windows and windows apps to access it. This gets set when you install a new ROM, so that software doesn't have to query the ROM directly in order to get the version number.
I'm guessing that you use SPB Backup to backup your registry too?
If so, after your hard reset just check the version number before you do a restore, and then again after, and you should see the version change from 1.66 back to what it was previously.
restoring the system from an spb backup file will NOT change the rom version displayed in settings. SPB BAckup knows when the rom version is different and even tells you this when you restore your system from a backup that was created in a different rom version.
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restoring the system from an spb backup file will NOT change the rom version displayed in settings. SPB BAckup knows when the rom version is different and even tells you this when you restore your system from a backup that was created in a different rom version.
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I guess there must be different versions of SPB backup floating round then, because I got this information from a thread a while ago where several people had this exact issue.
Guess we'll have to wait and see the outcome.
Haven't done the ROM update again, but just out of interest, I have SPB Backup 2.1.0, build 3536.
CloneboyZA said:
Haven't done the ROM update again, but just out of interest, I have SPB Backup 2.1.0, build 3536.
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You shouldn't need a complete reflash to see if that's the problem. A hard reset will be enough. If it still says it's not 1.66, then definitely flash it again.
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I guess there must be different versions of SPB backup floating round then
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possibly...
i have version 2.10 build 3536 myself and use it ALL the time.
after a rom flash i run the exe that SPB Backup creates for a backup and go through the restore process. SPB BAckup checks the rom version on your device and if it is different it tells you so... you must then run the retore in "rom upgrade" mode. Your ROM version will NOT change.
Maybe it is the "rom upgrade" mode that CloneboyZA missed?
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possibly...
i have version 2.10 build 3536 myself and use it ALL the time.
after a rom flash i run the exe that SPB Backup creates for a backup and go through the restore process. SPB BAckup checks the rom version on your device and if it is different it tells you so... you must then run the retore in "rom upgrade" mode. Your ROM version will NOT change.
Maybe it is the "rom upgrade" mode that CloneboyZA missed?
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Confirmed.
Well, SPB Backup wasn't picking up the ROM upgrade - had to put it into forced ROM upgrade mode. Did a hard reset, and just restored program files and PIM data - the ROM version is showing correctly now as 1.66. Think I'll do what was suggested - only restore PIM data, and reinstall everyhting one by one. Just frustrating to spend all that time doing it - what use is SPB backup then?
PS Also lost my Footprints that I created - any idea where they are stored so I can restore them ?
Hey all,
I know this is a newbie-ish question but i want to update my HD2 with a new rom and im aware i need to back everything up, my questions are:
1.whats the best program to back up
2. what will backing up actually back up? And what will i loose? i.e contacts/messages/apps etc..
3. any other tips on backing up will be much appreciated.
4. anyone just wanna do it for me
Thanks in advance.
i Suggest you SPB BackUp; it allows you to backup Everything on your phone, (contacts,messages, registry, etc.. and also the apps (but i'm not sure o.o)
It's not free, but let you a try for a period.
http://spb.com/products/backup/?en
EDIT: if your contacts are connected with their Facebook profile, you lose this relations when restore the agenda o.o'
djchubbs said:
Hey all,
I know this is a newbie-ish question but i want to update my HD2 with a new rom and im aware i need to back everything up, my questions are:
1.whats the best program to back up
2. what will backing up actually back up? And what will i loose? i.e contacts/messages/apps etc..
3. any other tips on backing up will be much appreciated.
4. anyone just wanna do it for me
Thanks in advance.
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Backing up and restoring anything other than PIM details across a different ROM flash its asking for trouble and its not recommended.
Use Myphone and all sync info will be to hand when needed.
Reinstall as many of your apps as possible to phone mem this will keep the phone running as sweet as possible.
Or 'PIM Backup' from DotFred
I use this one
pa49 said:
Backing up and restoring anything other than PIM details across a different ROM flash its asking for trouble and its not recommended.
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restoring a complete system (ALL data) is fine even after flashing a different rom. When using SPB backup you just have to make sure that you run the restore in "ROM upgrade mode". SPB Backup prompts you to do this automatically when it detects that the rom running isnt the same as the one the backup was created with.
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restoring a complete system (ALL data) is fine even after flashing a different rom. When using SPB backup you just have to make sure that you run the restore in "ROM upgrade mode". SPB Backup prompts you to do this automatically when it detects that the rom running isnt the same as the one the backup was created with.
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Sorry to disagree, but, Ive seen too many problems happen by doing this. Never seen any by not doing it!!!!!!!!
However, it's all advice and can be taken or not as the reader sees fit.
thanks for the advice guys, one thing, when installing spb backup does it make a difference where i install it? ie device or storage card?
pa49 said:
Sorry to disagree, but, Ive seen too many problems happen by doing this. Never seen any by not doing it!!!!!!!!
However, it's all advice and can be taken or not as the reader sees fit.
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You are right to state that you should use caution but i personally have never had an issue when using rom upgrade mode.
I use it all the time! (On all my devices)
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thanks for the advice guys, one thing, when installing spb backup does it make a difference where i install it? ie device or storage card?
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Doesnt make much difference... i always install all of my apps onto the storage card as it saves re-installing them after a hard reset or if you have a new device.
The only items i install to main memory are the ones that are integral to the system ie/ task managers, manila mods etc
I think the best way for a complete backup is sashimi application and its plugin makisu
sashimi is not very simple but, once you've configured it how you want, you can be sure you'll have the same apps, same tweaks, same registry improvements, same email settings, same wifi settings and so on.
So you can change rom whenever you want, without waste time to re-configure and re-install and so on.
sashimi can do also a backup of your personal informations, but for these I recommend PPC-PIMBackup (the easyest and simply the best for these kind of stuff)
There is also a dedicated forum
Give it a try, I use it with satisfaction
greetings