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OFFICIAL -- Nexus One Coming to Sprint -- Press release inside.

I guess I know what my next upgrade will be.
Nexus One from Google Coming to Sprint; Availability Date Announced Soon
Nexus One(TM) is planned for the Sprint Mobile Broadband Network with twice the network coverage of AT&T and ten times the network coverage of T-Mobile, both by square miles; Expands Sprint's Android(TM) portfolio
OVERLAND PARK, Kan., Mar 17, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Nexus One, the first wireless phone sold through Google(TM)'s web store, is planned for Sprint's 3G Mobile Broadband Network. Sprint (NYSE:S) will announce pricing and an exact availability date soon. Nexus One will benefit from Sprint's 3G network with twice the coverage of AT&T and 10 times the coverage of T-Mobile, both based on square miles.1
Sprint currently has America's largest voice calling area of any carrier reaching more than 307 million people in the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands with a Sprint phone and plan that includes roaming. PC World recently said no one has a more reliable network than Sprint in a 13 city 3G performance test.2 Customers can check the quality of network coverage with street level mapping at sprint.com/coverage.
"Nexus One is a powerful device that belongs on a powerful network. This is another step in our continued partnership of innovation with Google," said Fared Adib, Sprint vice president of product development. "Sprint customers already have the option of two amazing Android devices with Samsung Moment(TM) and HTC Hero(TM). It is a natural fit for us to add Nexus One to the list of choices available for Sprint customers who want the best value in wireless with the best in Android."
More after the jump:
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1403426&highlight=
EDIT: "A pricing plan has not yet been determined for Nexus One..." Hmmm... I hope I don't have to fork over $500 for this thing.

Oh hell yes !!

illogic6 said:
I guess I know what my next upgrade will be.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1403426&highlight=
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NICE FIND !!! Now let the deliberation begin....... N1 or Supersonic hmmmm

It says it'll be on 3g not 4g....

good find im torn between that and the supersonic atleast if the supersonic falls through i can always get the N1! thanks for sharing the article gives me something to look foward to ...not that i dont love my hero or anything

Thats cool, but now that the supersonic is coming there is no way I would downgrade to a N1. Thats just me though.

That is indeed very exciting. The N1 is a very very very nice phone.

JIZZ IN MY PANTS. am getting it

whichever comes out first will be what i get. supersonic is bad and all but i love the nexus. not to mention the incredible Dev support on the nexus. i live in ky so i could care less about 4g haha. man today has been a good cell phone day

Wow, decisions decisions. Dont know which I'd prefer, the Nexus One or Supersonic.
- 4g would be great but I doubt it'll be available in my area for a while. AND, although I love sense UI, it has obviously kept my Sprint Hero at ver. 1.5. I'm not happy about that.
- N1 is a Google phone so it'll receive all updates as soon as they come out. Plus, I like the noise cancelling mic.

Avalaunchmods said:
whichever comes out first will be what i get. supersonic is bad and all but i love the nexus. not to mention the incredible Dev support on the nexus. i live in ky so i could care less about 4g haha. man today has been a good cell phone day
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I'll agree with you on that one... except that we'll be in the same boat as we are with the GSM Hero...
Nexus CDMA will probably not be compatible with all the Nexus GSM ROMs etc without extra work.
Not a huge deal... better to be that close to the first N1 so we can port their stuff than to have some random crazy phone no one has been developing for.
Also, being able to root more easily would be nice.

Is_907 said:
I'll agree with you on that one... except that we'll be in the same boat as we are with the GSM Hero...
Nexus CDMA will probably not be compatible with all the Nexus GSM ROMs etc without extra work.
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Yes but by doing this Google is essentially giving CDMA more attention/work. It seems like the phone manufacturers where doing hacks(it is fact for the hero) to get CDMA to work. CDMA has been supported since 1.6 but now it seems like Google is fully acknowledging it.

ONLY 2 MONTHS after I got the hero. I wonder if it will have a nice subsidized price?

I hated my Hero up until a 2.1 rom I put on there.....I'm interested in a faster phone to remind me of my iPhone (LOL). I will get whichever is cheapest

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ONLY 2 MONTHS after I got the hero. I wonder if it will have a nice subsidized price?
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It had better. Too broke for a $500 price point.
If that was the case, at least it would make the N1/Supersonic decision easy.

the nexus will be my next upgrade come late this summer then.

this news sucks... only because it makes the decision harder for me Either way, I can't do anything until October when my full rebate kicks in. I will never pay full price for one of these things!

Apex i ITR said:
I hated my Hero up until a 2.1 rom I put on there.....I'm interested in a faster phone to remind me of my iPhone (LOL). I will get whichever is cheapest
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My stock hero was faster than my iPhone 3G and now that Im running 2.1 it's pretty similar in speed to all the 3Gs' I've used.

ill be getting the super sonic...why you ask
snapdragon
4g built in
bigger, higher res screen

Hrm...better list this hero now eh?

Bye bye WiMAX...

Just read this on PCWorld..
http://www.pcworld.com/article/207386/wimax_goodbye_and_good_riddance.html?tk=rss_news
Are we screwed?

Wtf... Really??
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Pcworld sucks, and so does the article. The guy says the only 4g phone is the evo. Also, doesn't mention anything about clear planning to get into lte as well. The board members resigned for antitrust issues and so they can get other investors on board.

let it die, and quit charging me the extra $10 a month.

Ok...so what does that mean for us who own a Evo?? No 4g?
If they switch to LTE will the EVO work with LTE?

No.....By the time they get LTE up and running....the evo will be obsolete and another phone with reign supreme......with LTE on board.
we will still have 4G coverage........im sure they had a contract in place for the use of their towers......comapnies just cant pull out of things such as this.

If this is the end of WiMAX then I'm getting out of my contract without the ETA. Sprint promised me 4G in my area prior to me signing up for this bull**** by the end of the year. If that ain't happening - bye bye Sprint hello Criket. Sick of this crap anyway.

timtlm said:
Pcworld sucks, and so does the article. The guy says the only 4g phone is the evo. Also, doesn't mention anything about clear planning to get into lte as well. The board members resigned for antitrust issues and so they can get other investors on board.
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Spot on.
Yeah, to this PCWorld guy the Samsung EPIC 4G must not exist. All this was about, was avioding an Antitrust issue, nothing more. Its not the death of WiMax or with Sprint & Clear using it.
How do you people get suckered by this crap from a guy who doesn't even have his information right? Com'on.

Noiro said:
Spot on.
Yeah, to this PCWorld guy the Samsung EPIC 4G must not exist. All this was about, was avioding an Antitrust issue, nothing more. Its not the death of WiMax or with Sprint & Clear using it.
How do you people get suckered by this crap from a guy who doesn't even have his information right? Com'on.
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Thats true I guess... I mean there is no definitive answer as to what exactly they are doing. I haven't seen Sprint stop rolling out their 4G so maybe its just bollox. I think they would have announced it to their customers by now.

werxen said:
Thats true I guess... I mean there is no definitive answer as to what exactly they are doing. I haven't seen Sprint stop rolling out their 4G so maybe its just bollox. I think they would have announced it to their customers by now.
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I did see another article earlier last month about Sprint exec's resigning from Clearwire. So the PCworld article is a little late...

That sucks, my area still doesn't have 4G, does this mean we never will?

Plancy said:
That sucks, my area still doesn't have 4G, does this mean we never will?
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Hopefully not... I was supposed to get 4G in my area by the end of the year. This just sucks total ass.

Wimax has been just a transitional technology from the start. It was a great idea initially, but took too long to implement and LTE is the future. Sprint WILL utilize LTE in the future, and our precious EVOs will be long forgotten by then anyway. I feel bad for anyone that was in the longhaul for CLWR since their IPO.

If you are reading this, your gay.
haha, Don't believe everything you read.
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bender u have no idea what you are talking about... just keep following verizons bs. There are over 500 wimax networks world wide. wimax isnt going anywhere

Clear has stated that they have begun lte trials, sprint has stated that they will upgrade when they feel they can justify the costs, and further stated that even after they begin supporting lte they will continue to support wimax, and there have been several instances where various representatives have stated sprint is conducting trials for voice+data on wimax so it may well replace the 1xrtt/evdo rev.a standard they are using now, its also been stated that the initial differences in wimax and lte was not hardware but software and it is possible to update wimax compatible devices to run on lte but i doubt they mean at lte speeds, the way they said it seemed to hint that it was more of a work around, on top of that japan is testing the next wimax standard which has a theoretical limit of 300Mb and they are barely testing at around 54Mb, and as for the whole resigning thing, they stated that due to some changes in law dan hessey and others would resign in the interest of both company's and that both sides discussed it thoroughly, but they keep most of the controlling interest, and they reserve the right to appoint anyone to replace them and other board members in the future should they feel the need to do so, Sprint will still maintain the presence that they did before resigning

If you read my post you would see that I said our EVOs would be long forgotten by then. Yes Sprint is going to expand their current 4g network based on wimax for some time, but they will eventually convert to LTE. They have built their infrastructure with the flexibility to eventually make the transition to LTE.
Try researching before attacking DRK!

werxen said:
If this is the end of WiMAX then I'm getting out of my contract without the ETA. Sprint promised me 4G in my area prior to me signing up for this bull**** by the end of the year. If that ain't happening - bye bye Sprint hello Criket. Sick of this crap anyway.
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Call me ill waive your etf's if you promise to leave sprint
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No doubt all of these Evos will be long gone before the LTE takeover. It will be ages before that happens. Anyway, is there anyone on this board who keeps their phone for more than a year??

ronnienyc said:
No doubt all of these Evos will be long gone before the LTE takeover. It will be ages before that happens. Anyway, is there anyone on this board who keeps their phone for more than a year??
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I know I don't...but there are some that do....

February Announcement from Sprint

What's your gut feel?
All of the poll options seem extremely relevant.
SVDO - Technically the HTC Thunderbird (Verizon EVO) is going to support this, at least that's what leaked documents propose. It'd make sense for Sprint to launch something similar.
Nationwide 4G coverage - It's really starting to pick up, they just lit up 4g in my area and i've heard a lot of reports of new 4g locations going in all over the country
CMDA iPhone - You have to admit that the technology is there, all it would take is an agreement with Apple and Sprint could support the iPhone just as well as Verizon. I find this one to be the least likely, although possible
Dual core phones - I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed that ATT / Verizon stole the show and Sprint had no new phone announcements at CES... It seems likely that they'd try and sign on with a handset manufacturer to get some competition going for ATT / Verizon and their Tegra handsets.

Dual core phones, or tablets.
Other than that, plan changes.

I hope voice and data. But I don't expect it. Maybe they will formally announce that they are going to slightly screw existing customers with their new gold and silver premier customer requirements.

running_the_dream said:
I hope voice and data. But I don't expect it. Maybe they will formally announce that they are going to slightly screw existing customers with their new gold and silver premier customer requirements.
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The slogan of "making the impossible possible" made me think SVDO is going to be the announcement. It had better be big with a phrase like that

Of course none of the above. This big annoucement will be about Froyo and a Sprint iPhone.

My gut feel is the overlay of Wimax with LTE. Maybe announcing an LTE device as well. The trials have been underway since last year, so I would imagine it would be about time.

A Sprint iPhone that runs GingerBread and an iPad that runs Honeycomb.

I chose dual core phone.... but really just a new piece of hardware was what I was aiming at, not necessarily dual core.
Having thought about it and read the comments, I would suspect an announcement regarding LTE/non WiMax service is more likely, especially as far as being "announcement" worthy. Plus it will downplay any talk of WiMax getting canned.
Regarding 4G buildout, where have there been new deployments? Or are we talking places that just started 'working' but are not documented as being in place? I hadn't heard anything about any new locations except the last major announcment of cities.

A little bird told me that the rumor within Sprint is an HTC dual-core 3D phone. That wouldn't "make the impossible possible," but it would explain the presence of an illusionist.
This little bird, however, is only one step up from a Sprint retail rep. So, I'm not putting too much stock in it.

Superbovine said:
I chose dual core phone.... but really just a new piece of hardware was what I was aiming at, not necessarily dual core.
Having thought about it and read the comments, I would suspect an announcement regarding LTE/non WiMax service is more likely, especially as far as being "announcement" worthy. Plus it will downplay any talk of WiMax getting canned.
Regarding 4G buildout, where have there been new deployments? Or are we talking places that just started 'working' but are not documented as being in place? I hadn't heard anything about any new locations except the last major announcment of cities.
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They just threw up 4g towers this week in Lansing and Flint, MI.... if they're canning 4g they probably would have stopped rolling it out by now. As far as I can tell (hit up the EVO forums for a better judge) there's a lot of new 4g sites rolling out.

Maybe they going give us actually 3g speed. You know the fast speed that t mobile has which ironically is the same speed as our 4g.
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I also think it's gonna be a 3D capable device...
the HTC Blaine!
jk.
actually that would sound cool (if david blaine wasn't so douchy)
How about the Evo 3D-ouche

Maybe froyo finally and 3 years later gingerbread 6 months after the release of android 4.5 apple pie.
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where did you hear about the Lansing towers? I just tried and wasn't able to connect.

I vote nationwide 4g and a few new phones. I just checked clear's site and it is now showing tuisa as well as every other major city in oklahoma as having some coverage (not 100% covered). Previously no 4g coverage was available anywhere in the state. I think that sprint will reveal a slew of new cities for the new 4g rollout.
That being said I'm still mad because the 4g coverage in tulsa is only in north tulsa and I live in south tulsa. :sigh
edit: if you don't have 4g now look at this map there is a chance you'll get it soon

Its going to be the blackberry tablet and some boring phones with maybe 1 good phone being announced.

I'd love to see some major 4g roll out, I'm still aggrivated by the fact that I live in San Diego(one of the largest cities in the united states and part of one of the largest economies in the world, yes thats right CA's economy is an incredibly large portion of the US's economy) and we don't even have 4g.

snowmanwithahat said:
They just threw up 4g towers this week in Lansing and Flint, MI.... if they're canning 4g they probably would have stopped rolling it out by now. As far as I can tell (hit up the EVO forums for a better judge) there's a lot of new 4g sites rolling out.
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Thanks. I keep hoping I will see something (we need any kind of tower really, but 4g would be nice). There is 4g 100 miles north and 65 miles south of me (and for like 80-90 miles of coast too), so I keep hoping they will connect the dots.
Having used 4G in DC, I certainly hope they don't can it either as it worked great (better than my home connection usually). If Clearwire continues the way they were last time I paid attention, it doesn't look good though

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edit: if you don't have 4g now look at this map there is a chance you'll get it soon
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MF
I used to check that all the time then I stopped. There is coverage shown 10 friggin minutes south of me now (not "Best Clear", but 4G nonetheless).
Interesting that they skipped Stuart. I understand skipping Hobe Sound and even Jupiter (just below it, very near to where it's full coverage), but Stuart is a major cash town, almost as much so as where I am, but with 4X the population to boot.
Ack. They best keep moving north.

I think they are testing the connection in rural areas where traffic is low then moving up into more densely populated areas later. This is how they rolled out in many cities that now have coverage. One of the posters talked about how in memphis only "the hood" is covered, the same could be said for tulsa and probably many other cities.
They will cover us eventually. If you look at Dallas, tx you will notice that all of the suburbs around it are covered, the same is likely to happen for Memphis, Tulsa, Port St. Lucie and others.

anyone else fed up with Sprints lack of 4g?

love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?

I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.

lycwolf said:
I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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That's pretty easy for you to say since you already have 4G.

From what I have read, no carrier has true 4G currently. But t be honest I am pretty pleased with the speeds I get with 3G.
But it would be nice to get the speed boost that sprint is calling 4g
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I'm glad its working for you, why don't you try it down here in south florida. it apparently works okay for people in Miami too. that doesn't help the people that were all told they were getting it. And before you type inane stupid things, try to think before you type. I did my research, i was told 4G was coming, and specifically to my city, yet it isn't in my city or any of the neighboring cities, plus sprint is talking about switching to LTE so thats a pretty good indication that WIMAX certainly isn't getting built out anymore in areas where it is "Live". And according to sprint south florida is live from Miami Beach to West Palm Beach. Oh except for the 80% of the parts that aren't. LOL. Oh and you didn't buy the phone for 4G, thats good for you, I bet 80% or more of the people did buy it for 4G. No one is complaining abou the price, its a great price, if 4G actually worked. and the other companies like ATT Tmobile have speeds that are at least 7 times higher than 3G sprint. so I'd consider that 4G. Verizon will be there very soon and Metro, Metro of all carriers, the dog crap carrier has 4G and its half the price of what i'm paying for sprint to lie directly to me.
lycwolf said:
I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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lycwolf said:
I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.

its not that I really need it that much, its the thought of forking over 150 bucks a month for 2 phones for almost the next 2 years that is frustrating, especially when 3G is out of date now, let alone by next year.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.
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lycwolf said:
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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So you are saying people shouldn't try to future proof as much as possible? Not everyone can afford to buy a new phone every year or 2 years, etc. So if you are up for a new phone, why not get a 4G phone. That way, when 4G finally comes to a city that is on Sprints list, you won't have to upgrade your hardware.
Seems like Sprint isn't upgrading/expanding their 4G network at all and Sprint customers are stuck paying just as much as other people on other carriers for the same/slower speeds. Not cool
Fed up with the lack of 4G? Absolutely. And let's not forget Sprint shafting their "Premier" customers and getting rid of yearly upgrades if your plan isn't over 89.99 or if you've been with Sprint for 10 years. If Sprint keeps it up, they will continue to lose customers.

Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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Id be frustrated if I bought th phone and was paying for 4g and not getting it.
But, I live in nyc so I knew I wasgonna get 4g sooner or later so I upgraded and a week later 4g went live
You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
Right no I don't even have 4g service, or even 1xrtt. I'm in wifi only right now, but idc. Because I know when I get home, I'm not gonna have any service issues. I leave 4g on while I'm home in nyc.
I was seriously considering going to t-mo because my friend with his TP2 was getting 5mb/s dl speeds and stuff, but sprint came through at the right time so I stuck with them.
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I spend 1/2 of my time in NYC (which has 4g) and 1/2 the time in Long Island which does not. Although it work well when the phone is actually connected, most of the time I cannot connect to it while inside a building (even in Manhattan coverage is pretty spotty) - so when I wifi tether 4G hardly ever works. In Long Island, most of the places that I am in have wifi so lack of 4G has not been a problem personally. But I understand being upset for paying the $10 a month without ANY 4G availability in the home market.

again, did the research, read the quoted press releases and the article from the newspaper down here that listed the cities 4G was coming to. so i would be happy to go with another carrier but can't fork over ETF, and buy another phone when I already forked out 500 for these.
A_Flying_Fox said:
You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
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Tbtltdts said:
Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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i don't know about you, but I don't do anything major on the phone, I do like to browse the web though and occasionally download something, like maybe a new rom for the phone thats impossible to do at 3G speeds that half the time are 300K or less. want to send a picture? how good is that going to work on 300K. So its not like 4G is just for gamers or youtube fanatics. youtube isn't even installed on my phone.

I have used WiMax in Atlanta and Nashville, and its awesome.
The Epic is Epic even without 4G, but I do wish I had it here in Louisville.

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My concern is they've quit releasing any sort of expansion plans. Last year when the EVO and Epic were fresh they went on and on about which markets would be getting it. Now, nothing. If I at least knew if it was eventually coming to my area I'd be happy. Sprint has until my contract is up or VZW/ATT get LTE going to get some 4G in my area or I'll finally be switching carriers after almost 10 years. That being said, I get pretty decent 3G speeds to tide me over in the meantime.
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lycwolf said:
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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Actually t-mobile has a equivalent plan cost. My girlfriend has a G2 and it is faster than my 4g (san antonio) she was getting 8k down while I get 6 or 7. Not to mention they get a better signal here.
No need to be a jerk about it. You would be just a frustrated if a sprint rep told you that 4g is coming soon...but it hasn't.
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love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?
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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.

Verizon and T-Mobile are aggressively building out their 4G networks. ATT has upgraded its 3G and unveils 4G this summer.
Sprint's 4G expansion has mostly halted as Clearwire teeters on the edge of bankruptcy. This 'news' was obviously not known when these phones were released with Wimax touted. The OP's criticism is valid.

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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.
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really?? I could look at the coverage map before they put it on the site right? before it was live in south florida? The rep asking me for my zip code and telling me I would be getting it soon wasn't lying? or the one on chat that said they are still building it and I would get 4G soon wasn't lying right?

Sprint LTE phone coming in Q3, 2012

While not Evo Shift related, but we should start seeing Sprint LTE phones late next year.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...-the-second-half-of-2012-likely-in-Q3_id24383
Let the rumors and hopes begin!
Quad core, AMOLED screen, and minimal manufacturer skinning (I know, I know, a pipe dream)

All this talk about lte, wimax, clearwire, etc. has brought me to realize I know very little about the subject. I thought 4G was 4G. Apparently there are differences. None of the carriers offer 4G where I live, the closest being verizon about 60 miles away. I guess I'm off to the world of google and wiki to do some researching.
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My Shift should last me until then.

jsp254 said:
All this talk about lte, wimax, clearwire, etc. has brought me to realize I know very little about the subject. I thought 4G was 4G. Apparently there are differences. None of the carriers offer 4G where I live, the closest being verizon about 60 miles away. I guess I'm off to the world of google and wiki to do some researching.
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actually, none of the carriers anywhere in the country offer 4G, they offer somewhat advanced 3G that they've labeled as 4G. But that's a debate for a different place.
Chances are, if you don't have "4G" now, you sure as heck won't miss it if you get a phone that has "4G" capabilities and you're in an area that isn't covered by that service. I rarely use the "4G" on my Shift, because it's 150 miles to the closest site that has it. I think that's the case for a whole lot of people with the Shift, and other "4G" phones, especially on Sprint.
The LTE service Sprint is coming out with is supposed to be put in the same locations as their 3G within a year of the beginning of the rollout, so all 3G covered areas would also have LTE in theory (or so the rumors have said). That would actually make a difference in the phones people purchase, and make that extra $10/month for the "smartphone fee" worthwhile.
It's probably worth waiting on your upgrade until next fall to get the LTE phones if you're into the more advanced phones, but Wimax will still be supported (but not likely expanded), and of course they'll still have the 3G capabilities. Personally, I haven't decided whether I'll keep my Shift past my Feb upgrade or not, it'll depend on the condition of my Shift, the device rumors I'm hearing, and of course how much money I have to upgrade. It's my last yearly upgrade, so I have to actually buy a phone that I expect to last for two years.

tatonka_hero said:
actually, none of the carriers anywhere in the country offer 4G, they offer somewhat advanced 3G that they've labeled as 4G. But that's a debate for a different place.
Chances are, if you don't have "4G" now, you sure as heck won't miss it if you get a phone that has "4G" capabilities and you're in an area that isn't covered by that service. I rarely use the "4G" on my Shift, because it's 150 miles to the closest site that has it. I think that's the case for a whole lot of people with the Shift, and other "4G" phones, especially on Sprint.
The LTE service Sprint is coming out with is supposed to be put in the same locations as their 3G within a year of the beginning of the rollout, so all 3G covered areas would also have LTE in theory (or so the rumors have said). That would actually make a difference in the phones people purchase, and make that extra $10/month for the "smartphone fee" worthwhile.
It's probably worth waiting on your upgrade until next fall to get the LTE phones if you're into the more advanced phones, but Wimax will still be supported (but not likely expanded), and of course they'll still have the 3G capabilities. Personally, I haven't decided whether I'll keep my Shift past my Feb upgrade or not, it'll depend on the condition of my Shift, the device rumors I'm hearing, and of course how much money I have to upgrade. It's my last yearly upgrade, so I have to actually buy a phone that I expect to last for two years.
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I'm in the same boat and I'm waiting for Q3 2012.

I use 4G all the time and honestly can't wait to see the improvements LTE bring
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It's probably worth waiting on your upgrade until next fall to get the LTE phones if you're into the more advanced phones, but Wimax will still be supported (but not likely expanded), and of course they'll still have the 3G capabilities. Personally, I haven't decided whether I'll keep my Shift past my Feb upgrade or not, it'll depend on the condition of my Shift, the device rumors I'm hearing, and of course how much money I have to upgrade. It's my last yearly upgrade, so I have to actually buy a phone that I expect to last for two years.
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From my understanding they're re-purposing their 1900mhz band they use for 3G/Voice for LTE. Once the re-purposing is complete our phones would lose 3G/Voice functions outside of roaming on Verizon as they're relocating their 3G/Voice services to 800mhz (Verizon uses 850mhz so our 850mhz radio won't work on Sprint's 800mhz band). Hopefully they'll keep 3G/Voice on 1900mhz so they can gradually phase out their 1900mhz phones on both Sprint and Virgin Mobile. I'm not due for an upgrade until March 2013.
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I use 4G all the time and honestly can't wait to see the improvements LTE bring
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You probably won't notice a huge difference except for the amount of coverage. Comparing my WiMAX speeds to those of my friends on Verizon's LTE we're about the same speed (around 10Mbps).

I didn't know people actually use 4G. I have in here in San Antonio but never use it cause I'm always on WiFi and if I don't have that I'm probably not on my phone downloading stuff
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I use 4G whenever 3G is crapping out because it really kills my battery. I think im going to start carrying a 2nd battery.

I have 4G where I am, great at the house. Can definately tell when I switch back to 3G. Use 4G all the time and love it.

I have 4g most of the time but my wifi is much faster. For a while I was using the 4g until I could figure out who my internet provider would be at our new place. 4g is still pretty bad as I live in downtown los angeles with cell coverage that dies as soon as you walk into any building more than 100 feet.
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I just hope sprints lte has better building penetration. That's the only reason i don't use wimax much now. It drops connection so easy inside buildings if you are away from windows and takes a long time to pick it up again and while it's trying to connect or if it's dropping you get no data.

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I just hope sprints lte has better building penetration. That's the only reason i don't use wimax much now. It drops connection so easy inside buildings if you are away from windows and takes a long time to pick it up again and while it's trying to connect or if it's dropping you get no data.
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How's your 3G reception? They're re-purposing their 3G/Voice 1900mhz band for LTE so if you have crappy 3G reception most likely you'll have crappy LTE reception when it finally rolls out.