After 10 years of nokias the n97 finally pushed me over the edge and i am expecting my new hd2 in the post today.Just a question about updating it.After installing the new 1.66 rom do i have to install any other htc official updates or are they all included in the new rom?
Is there a way to check for new updates on the device or do you have to check the htc site all the time?
Also whats this i read about updating the radio.What does this do?
Haha just like my story, my last Nokia was the N97 .. look what they did, they made us nokia users divert to another phone company.
Welcome aboard
Im not sure about the last question, but regarding the first, a fellow good user told me that you most likely not need the official updates, but you can check in the HTC support for the versions they support. Most of them are 1.59 or below, so in that case you dont need them
I think you need to check their support page, or the RSS feed there. Dont know if there is another way.
Hope I helped a bit.
1. First of all congrats to your decision to leave Nokia and move over to HTC - you'll never regret this, I guess...
2. Please use search-function in the future. You have only to install hotfixes that are needed for your ROM-version - so if e.g. on the HTC-page is written sth. like "needed for version <1.6" then you haven't to reinstall these hotfixes again with ROM 1.66 (installation wouldn't work anyway).
3. To check if there are new updates availabel, you have to visit HTC-website (support section) - you can put an RSS-feed onto your phone to check it also - this is my solution. Better it is to visit this thite here XDA-Developers often, and you'll get also informed and beneath this lot of feedback according the updates.
4. RADIO is the firmware for the receiver unit aso. - it is responsible for reception (GSM, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS etc.), very important for battery consumption and also responsible for a couple of other things like sound (not sure about these other things to be honest).
Hope this helps for the beginning.
ZaZu90 said:
Haha just like my story, my last Nokia was the N97 .. look what they did, they made us nokia users divert to another phone company.
Welcome aboard
Im not sure about the last question, but regarding the first, a fellow good user told me that you most likely not need the official updates, but you can check in the HTC support for the versions they support. Most of them are 1.59 or below, so in that case you dont need them
I think you need to check their support page, or the RSS feed there. Dont know if there is another way.
Hope I helped a bit.
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after tons of nokias, and painful waiting 7 months o release date of n97, i said googbye to nokia.
i gues they would need to make space shuttle in a phone to get me back
For me it's the same, too. After Nokia N70 and E90 Communicator, I also went to HTC. But I had two Pocket PCs more than ten years ago (Casio Cassiopeia), so finally meeting Windows Mobile again.
Same here.. My last phone was n97.. Didnt regret after changing to this phone and i just love my HD2 more and more as time goes by..
I was a devoted Nokia man for years, until one day I saw the Touch Diamond and was overcome with lust. I had my Diamond for a while, then a HD, and now the HD2. I can't imagine ever going back to Nokia now, but I'll always be fond of them.
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I was a devoted Nokia man for years, until one day I saw the Touch Diamond and was overcome with lust. I had my Diamond for a while, then a HD, and now the HD2. I can't imagine ever going back to Nokia now, but I'll always be fond of them.
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My story almost the same. I had some Nokias, the last one was N95 and I then I bought a HTC Touch Diamond which... I generally hated . But it had a great GPS receiver and was very small so I was using it quite a while (for a year I guess) and now I'm using HD2 and I'm very happy with it although at first I was a little bit sceptic as I wasn't happy with my Diamond. Anyway in general HD2 is a great phone and I didn;t have some irritating problems with it so I would recommend it to anybody.
Same here, After years of Nokia and Symbian.. The N97 made me Mad ..
So here im HtC HD2
And i Love the Phone..
You've all been slow, look below at how long ago I did that move
hello guys i've beeen a hard core nokia user and after 12 yrs of nokia marriage i divorced it when there was no sign of a new communicator.....
same story here. From the N97 to HD2. Best choice ever. Nokia user for about 10years, but its very doubtful that i will ever go back to Nokia again after the N97 experience. The new flagship after the N95 failed bigtime.
Add another one to the list. I was using the Nokia 5530, and I just sold it on Saturday (literally) to help finance my HD2 purchase. I'll soon join the ranks, and as my wife just said to before I saw this post, "I don't want to ever buy another Nokia phone."
I agree. Symbian drove me crazy. None of these models have enough system memory to function well enough. The N97 is a disaster.
I'm glad I found this forum, because otherwise I would not have known how customizable the HD2 really is, and the fact that it runs Windows Mobile would have caused me to shy away from it.
just settings up the new phone . I have got a major problem hope someone can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5515719#post5515719
He he this is turning in to an Ex-N97 owners convention.
I'm in too and on a brighter note my wife loves it
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Just a few words...to say a big thanks to this forum - I´ve learnt a lot from here and tried to give back to the community as much as I could. My Prophet was stolen last week, and I replaced it...with a Nokia E61 PDA. Finally Nokia has a real Symbian OS9 V3 business PDA, and I don´t have to bother with Win Mobile 5 anymore. Only feature missing is A2DP, but Nokia will deliver with next firmware update. Take a closer look at this model, if you want to do serious business comms. Prophet was great, but I need UMTS data now. Good luck to all of you, and keep up the good community work. BTW HTC will soon also sell under it´s own brand...Dopod ))
Well I'm sorry you had to downgrade 8)
Sorry to hear you had to downgrade due to a stolen Prophet!...
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/12/htc-keeps-letting-the-shift-shift/
Well the shift looks like has been delayed again now till Febuary. The reason why? Looks like HTC now cant decide if the shift should be shipping with the phone or not is one of the reasons. looks like they do read these forums and are really considering have it ship stock with voice capabilities out of the box.
How do I know this? well my new source just told me this. who is it? well our very own boygenius has emailed me that they are currently still deciding on this issue and its contributing to why the shift has been delayed.
The latest rom i have did still have phone settings in it so looks like they are swaying still towards it shipping with phone.
Now this kinda proves what i kept on saying that it had the phone abilities. what i was never sure of is if it will ship. we now know they are deciding on it.
That's nice to know... actually I just pre-ordered one.
but at least I'm happy cuz now every body can belive pawel was right!
I think still have to use the athena project's os for use full wm6.
I donated athena project...... mm.... actually not that much amount..
but I really want to say thank to athena project guys...
ok good news (even if delay are not so fun), I hope they understand why it is so important to have phone capabilities .. they put a SMS section on their shift support webpage ... if they remove this ability I think it will be a real problem because we all know about this ability and we'll never accept losing it. I own an HTC Touch but will be really happy to have a shift with phone + my Touch .. both are for different use (one as an calendar and real phone) and the shift allow me not to bring my touch all the time. I can choose which one I took .. I can't bring the shift to a party, to some holidays .. because there are too many risks of losing it, being stolen, etc.. so I would really enjoy both.
But what about the Origami 2.0 package? The shift had this package at CES2008... and it would be the PERFECT "official" reason for a delay. I think that with this package the shift will be THE BEST UMPC for more than a year.
Thanks for the news, I hope we will have more news in the coming days and weeks
ANOTHER delay?
Why don,t they just get the device out there with everything enabled and let the user choose how they wanna use it!?.
Who are they? Microsoft??
C'mon guys at HTC! just release it! We'll hack your ROMs anyway......
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ANOTHER delay?
Why don,t they just get the device out there with everything enabled and let the user choose how they wanna use it!?.
Who are they? Microsoft??
C'mon guys at HTC! just release it! We'll hack your ROMs anyway......
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It's not only about choice .. the delay comes from many reasons ... yes there are some choices to be made.. but there are issue about the number of shift to produce.. I have heard about CPU for the WM6 part that were not enough produced by Qualcomm and that was the big reason for the delay .. so we'll see
Hi, me tells a german distributor, that HTC has a "special Chinese Year" (like the chinese Year of the dragon, religion) within that, the people works not so a lot and be more relaxed, so that all things that come from there have delivery problems..
maybe i dont now it´s true, but that tell me a distri ;-)
i´m very angry about HTC politics, first they tell some specifications and later the dont have this specifications. (HTC Touch DUAL and S730 without GPS) I tell my users one half year ago, wait please for the new modells with GPS, and then, they change her product spezifications 1 months before to "without gps"..
i´m very angry, i´m sell and support many years with htc devices, i deployed and report many problems with the devices to htc or to the distris, sells more than 3000 devices since start with Wallaby/MDA ..
maybe it´s time to change again.
but we will see, i test the shift - is it right than we stay - is not i search again - i found always a other solution
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..I have heard about CPU for the WM6 part that were not enough produced by Qualcomm and that was the big reason for the delay .. so we'll see
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Oh.. Well.. If that is the case I guess I should be a bit more understanding... I guess.
But it still sucks...
The Qualcomm patent problem stuff sucks too.
Sorry for the bad language, but that is how I feel.
It just does....
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
There's alot more to WM than meets the eye you know. The Xperia is hyped with the Panels in mind but it's certainly not the only feature there's alot more that can be done.
I, myself have removed the panels completely, I don't like them and never used them. I currently use the Panels button to open my comm manager so I can change what's on and what's not.
Have you installed any other software for you phone at all? Just a few interfaces to mention for instance:
TouchFlo
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Mobile Shell
Im sure there's more. The bottom two offer a heck of alot of customization for the "look" of your phone. Skins/Icons. You could have it looking like an iPhone if you wanted, or there abouts.
On top of that there's more programs that you can install than you can shake a stick at. It's much like a PC, the amount of things you can do with it is amazing.
I'll agree there are problems with the device, but the problem with the majority is they always look on the negatives and not the positives. Sometimes the phone is a bit hard to use and after showing a few friends of mine the phone, they have really liked it but I have had to put them off the phone because they without being rude don't have the knowledge to use the phone and be happy with it to it's fullest.
Windows Mobile really is what you make it, some like it, some hate it. It's not the greatest of operating systems for phones and it's probably one of the most hardest to use and learn, but the options you have are well worth the effort.
colourblind said:
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?
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Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?
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what's so wrong of posting it here? i think he has the rights to express his feelings.
mate, i hated windows mobile before! yes i did, even though i'm a microsoft "fan" but when i used my X1, i started customizing it in a way that really fits my needs, and now i'm using my phone as a computer which is always in my pocket!
you can find alot of cool stuff in the forum, customize your phone and play arround with it, change all default values (be careful not to change something that will make you hard reset, and always backup). Customize the phone, windows is the most flexible and customizable OS ever (sorry Linux fans).
let me know if you need any help
The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
That means the support level for our HTC-made Xperia X1's is going down the tubes. HTC is the one most likely responsible for firmware upgrades to their hardware, so now that SE and HTC no longer co-operate/partner I highly doubt HTC will be making any firmware updates for our phone.
Consider this... the HTC Touch HD has been released after the X1, yet has already receive one or two firmware updates by HTC to fix various issues. The X1 has received ZERO updates.
SE has basically decided to give up on the Xperia X1 from what we can see, since they moved to a new manufacturer.
Of course, this doesn't mean the great developers at XDA will not be coming out with home brew firmwares and fixes, but it does mean that official support from SE is probably going to be winding down and dying...
why else would a simple fix to the bluetooth problem (which MANY people here have found) is not being pushed out? Because SE doesn't want to pay HTC to release the firmware fix since they no longer co-operate.
Oh well. I hope to be proven wrong, but the fact HTC is pushing out firmware updates for all their devices but NOT the Xperia X1 (despite being released longer) confirms this.
colourblind said:
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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U said it "seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!".
R U using it so you knew it is much more better ?
go buy a nokia s40 phone and then use your x1 again. let me know what you like more and would rather use.
I allways look at this that my new X1 is as a toy for Big boy.
Its all abaut somthing changing experimenting tweaking.
I like this .
or just buy nokia 6110 make call, recive call and sleep well in the nights.
I was always under the impression that this was a dsicussion forum for the understanding and development of a set of phones.
Unfortunately lately it's become an area for people with no understanding to moan.
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The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
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Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?
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The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
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What a load of crap.
All we know is that HTC won't be building the X2 (or whatever they end up calling it) together. We don't even know what OS is going to run on it.
However it's SE responsibilty for the software, they are working on a new firmware, whether those on branded phone will see it depends on their networks (unless you do a DIY job).
And if SE do need help from HTC with some hardware issues, HTC will need to provided it, they will be under contract and most likely will want to build future models (X3).
HTC is not going to produce "next" Sony Ericsson phone.
HTC still produces XPERIA for Sony Ericcson.
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Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?
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no-one said that,
SE aren't using HTC to develop future phone, it looks like they're using asus instead.. although it could also be that the x2 is android based :0
so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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dude, my xperia only turns off if i have to restart due to some registry tweak, since the R3A update, i never experienced a hang
you could have posted me your previous xperia, only if i had the money to burn i would buy another
x1, there is none that can come close
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...The X1 has received ZERO updates.
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What's so funny is that you make this statement on the XDA website. What world are you in???
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so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?
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Yes and I find it pathetic. Good thing people are working on a WinMo port for it.
colourblind said:
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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Lies.....
I have seen what the new Palm Pre can do...it's a good interface but basically that's all it has good interface.
And yes I am impressed but I told myself, I will never buy a Palm because it looks like it has shifted from pda function to a P.O.S. kid's toy ... a competitor to the iphone.
I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
Also...I really really want the Omnia HD...it's multimedia and out of the box experience is great, but AGAIN, symbian add-on software isn't as good. So if I were to buy a Samsung Omnia HD, I would buy it as a PMP, and I would buy a Toshiba TG01 as a Pocket PC.
But for now, Xperia has some qualities of Omnia HD and some qualities of other good and fast windows mobile phones like Toshiba TG01. Obviously Omnia HD doesn't have windows mobile, which I prefer over symbian (I've used symbian S60 first before switch to Windows Mobile), and it's also obvious that Toshiba TG01 doesn't have headphone jack and keyboard like the Xperia. So Xperia is the sort of the best of both worlds for now.
If I had cash I'd buy Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD seperate...but if only XDA developed for the Toshiva TG01....
If there was a super godlike overkill hybrid phone that was both the Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD...I would buy that hybrid instead...
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I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
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I think we should sticky that comment to the front page. IN BIG LETTERS.
Hi just found this forum after digging around trying to find info on the touch HD.. and thought that you folks arethe best people to ask..
Had my N95 for near 2 years (is the original 1 not the 8GB one) and have found it to be a great phone...... but fancied a change and tbh after seeing the Touch HD i kinda fell in love with it.. lol
I dont know alot about phone in general... so am unsure if upgrading to the HD is a good idea at this time? or is there something much better just around the corner i should wait for? or even a better phone out atm i should maybe look into?
i suppose im just a little worried about buying into another 24 month contract with a phone thats about to get a superior *big brother* in a few months....
So,,, reckon i should just go for a new HD?? or something else? or wait a couple months for some all singing and dancing phone i know nothing about yet? hehe...
great forum... very informative... if a little overwhelming for me
Cheers!
In my opinion you should wait-- cuz there are already more powerfull phones (like Toshiba TG-01) coming out!!! Im personaly waiting for something with Nvidia Tegra!!
Touch HD is a great phone in overall, but all phone have some flaws-- no d-pad, poor video performance(with stock drivers)--- you should read some reviews about Touch HD to get more thoughs about it!!
But anyways Htc aint releasing a much more powerfull phone this year (check www.pdadb.net ) so I think its worth to wait!!
I too upgraded from the original n95....great phone but I too liked the touch.
imho there is always a phone worth waiting for but when do you ever buy?....I think that if you were happy with the n95 for two years then the same will be true for the Hd.
Yes it has it`s quirky points but don`t all phones?
I am well pleased with the Hd and I signed up for 18 months with the option to upgrade in 15 months which I believe is the norm these days....just look through the forum and see what can be done to and with this phone.
I say go get it!!
Hope that helps!
i agree with Hdowner
Great phone and with all the modifications that can be done you can have a new phone everyday LOL well almost
Unless your heavily into watching videos on phone the video performance is fine
and I have never missed the dPad
I upgraded from an N95 about 5 months ago now, & kind of wished I had bought an i-phone instead. But I'm on the fence because I now run Miri's Cooked win mobile 6.5 ROM, which has improved the HD massively. If u decide to purchase a HD, prepare to flash a new ROM.
I could not believe my eyes the first time i booted up my HD and got a message that a programme had crashed, D'OH! Not a good start
I sum up with this;
If u want a business/professional phone with a large high rez screen, easily carrier unlocked and flash upgradeable get a HD.
If u want a great multimedia phone, application store, easy touch controls but an over controlled experience by Apple get an I-phone (S)
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thnx for the input........ i have lately started to look at a couple of other phones.. like the new N97... or the Omnia 2... but none seem to grab me like the HD does...... i know everyone has there own tastes and likes,, but i just think it oozes quality and looks amazing,,,, a definate head turner
even toyed with the idea of the Iphone,,,,,,, but dont think i could jhandle being tied to all things apple,,,, and not being able to access the thousand of 3rd party appz out there... even on my n95 the ammount of free software is amazing and i can only imagine its even greater with a windows mobile,,,
now i just need the courage to try and work out how to upgrade it to Windows mobile 6.5 ...
HD is great (with non-stock ROM ) and I'm very satisfied but if N95 is operative to you could wait for new device coming and then you could choose with new platform.
But You must know I love change and mod device: iPhone (with screen more smooth etc..) is a jail to me and I hate install app only through Official Store (40Mb of s*it only to move mp3 on ipod... bleah!!)
D'rath
I'd say it's worth it, the newer HTC devices aren't necessarily better, just different, if you want simplicity and not a lot of flexibility consider the iPhone, but if you want control and choice go for a HTC device be it WM or Android.
Dear all,
I want to thank all of the developers that kept the dream alive of being able to use our outdated device in this time of snapdragons and WP7. We had a good ride but it is time to move on... Recently I got a HD2 and I am experimenting on that (still can't get used to the lack of a hardware keyboard...). My last rom on the hermes was from my fellow countryman Ansar and I have to say that, personally, it was the best rom I ever tried, if he ever makes a lite rom, I might go back to hermes
Have fun people, and keep the dream alive. The Hermes is hard toy to brake...
Thanks
Jardan
Well this is wierd
Im going from a Touch Pro 2 back to a hermes !! (made redundant dont keep the phone )
and my wife lost our HD2
So Hermes it is
Not really worried it almost seems faster than my TP2 !!!!!
If you want my opinion, try Ansar's rom. it was very fast and stable. But to tell you the truth, I can not compare it with HD2, it is much faster than the Hermes. And becasue I use the hermes as a backup phone, for my second sim, everytime I look at the screen nowdays, it looks soooo small and outdated... dont get me wrong, I loved my hermes but you just can't compare the two devices...
If you want I can exchange your TP2 for my hermes!
it was a work phone and i was made redundant
I was joking mate. Anyway, really you should try ansar's rom. have fun!
Is it possible for windows phone 7 OS to run on Hermes?
No, never.
But you can skin your screen as al lookalike WP7, like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649362
maybe six more WP7-UIs are available, PointUi, ThrottleLauncher, etc.
so sad
I continue to use my
I'm looking at replacing my hermes but not sure what to go for????
HD2 or TP2?????
Or other???
Which would you guys say??
Just wondering, who here uses Heremes over 4 years?
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Just wondering, who here uses Heremes over 4 years?
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cough cough me cough cough...
i had fun with it.. and now downloading another rom to give it a new fresh look.
i also have htc advatage still working and SE Satio. Im thinking to sell my satio and buy another "HARD TO BREAK" device.
for me, hermes is not a hair mess... cough cough...
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Just wondering, who here uses Heremes over 4 years?
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Start a poll to find out!
You can see how many threads there are which shows how many people are using the Hermes.
Ofcourse interest will decrease by time. I just purchased the Galaxy-S (android), but am still amazed but many features of the Hermes with winmo.
I've changed my phone since last spring, I needed a dual sim so I bought an Acer DX900, but sometimes I get out my hermes and I still play with it. I'll never sell it!