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Battery's not full charging

My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.

titus1 said:
My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.
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Same issue as mine. I wonder what's causing this?

dont worry
this is the problem that many of us are facing with.
no way to get rid of. phone jast charges till 100%, and illumination stops , but the status remains charging. but really its stopped. the charger and battery both get cool.

Had anyone of you did try to send it to SE service center to address this issue?

Many times when I charge the phone the % indicater will just stay at whatever it was when I plugged in the charger. If unplugg the charger for a few seconds and reconnect it again the % indicater will update.
It's just one of those bugs.....

l have contact SE about a month ago..still no reply

titus1 said:
My X2's battery seems charging in eternity. Have it plugged almost half a day and still is charging. I'm always turning my X2 off when I'm going to charge it, so I can see the battery icon when it's full. But this one's crazy, when I turn on my phone and looked at how many percent that it has been charged...it says 100%. But then again when I turned it off (still plugged to a charger)...it's still is charging.
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It's better to leave the phone on when charging, that way the OS itself can control power management.
Really though, don't worry about it... as it has been said... it's just one of those things

mtechfan said:
It's better to leave the phone on when charging, that way the OS itself can control power management.
Really though, don't worry about it... as it has been said... it's just one of those things
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Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.

titus1 said:
Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.
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This is a question that is very difficult to answer as it depends on which applications you are running and how you use your phone.
Earlier this week I experienced that the battery dropped from 100% in the morning to less than 20% around 5 PM after having used the phone quite frequently throughout the day.
Yesterday I used the phone very little and from 100% battery yesterday morning I'm now down to 59% after 26 hours of use.
If you want your battery to last make sure you:
- turn off the screen when you do not use the phone
- turn off WiFi and Bluetooth
- don't use the radio
- turn of GPS
Maby someone else have more tips on how to get the battery to last.

here issue is not standby of battery-it is simple charging time and unacceptability of x2 to stop charging procedure. it just go on and on with charging(it does not display when it the battery is full it display that it is still charging-even if the phone is on charger more then 10h!!)

titus1 said:
Thank you for that info. But, how long does your battery lasts? Mine wouldn't even last 24 hours.
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Sometimes I can use it all day and still have somewhere around 40% to 60% left at the end of the day. If I don't use it that much, it will maybe drop 10% per day. I have gone 3 days once without needing to swap my battery.
I have a standalone charger and 3 batteries. So I swap out the batteries from there every time it is low. It could be possible that the standalone charger does a better job of charging to full capacity.
EDIT: I also leave my 3G on always!

My battery lasts 3 days,about 30min of talk every day,5-10sms,20-30min of wifi,3g is off,gps not using yet...so that is about that.

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My battery lasts 3 days,about 30min of talk every day,5-10sms,20-30min of wifi,3g is off,gps not using yet...so that is about that.
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3 days? And mine was just about....damn!

Constant usage battery life

From what I have seen, most battery life comparisons/stats are usually done with the phone in standby/screen off majority of the time.
I decided to do it the other way.
Last night to this morning:
I tried charging my battery to 100% but time constraints only had me charge it to around 84% (late for work).
I don't use/have a charger at work nor do I have one in my car. I work 8 hours straight (11pm - 7am) and I almost always stream pandora the entire time.
I am using the seidio extended battery and the only thing that stays off is wifi when I am not within range of any kind of open network (starbucks) or my own saved connection list. 4g/3g, gps, and background data are constantly on.
So, from 84% left the house and started streaming pandora in the car. Get to work about 15 minutes later with no interruption in streaming (just turned the volume down). I do shut off my screen while streaming when I put the phone in my pocket.
Surfed the web, watched some youtube videos, checked gmail and facebook (which auto sync about every hour and gmail notifies me of every single email I get), and played some games here and there (nothing great) throughout the night.
Basically my intent was to never let the phone sit and do nothing. The entire time pandora was streaming (browsing the net and streaming, checking gmail/facebook and streaming) but youtube would always stop pandora.
Got 8 hours of constant use. I don't want to say moderate/light/heavy as that scale changes from person to person. Moderate for one person may be heavy for the next.
I charged the battery in the phone because I don't have an external charger for it. Although I may get one because my charging method still involves me taking the battery out of the phone.
No task killers, no setcpu (I am rooted), no custom rom (from the dev forum).
I am using bakedsnack kernel #4, launcherpro, and I have personally uninstalled a crap load of stuff (even htc sense and rosie altogether).
My opinion is that all these gimmicks that we have to go through to get good battery life while in standy are not necessary. What is necessary is for the charging system in the evo to be revamped. This is my own opinion, but I think the charging system in the evo skips stage 2 of the charging process http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm which is why (this is what I think, I am no expert) so many people see the sudden drop from 100% down to whatever shortly after they unplug their charger.
It kind of makes sense as to why some people who charge their stock batteries in the ebay externals get better battery life, it's because they are actually being charged properly.
Again, this is just my opinion and I am in no way an expert on this. Just disclosing my experience and observations of my phone and it's behavior. Take from it what you will.

That's pretty amazing dude. Me personally would consider your use for this test to be pretty heavy. I'm more than impressed to see 37% battery life. And from what I've been reading up on the external charger is definitely the way to go. Although it's quite a pain to have to charge our evos like this just for maximum battery life. Hopefully in the future releases of phones we won't have tis do things like this. As mentioned in another post the switching of the battery to charge it will eventually make the back door loose or maybe even break sooner than planned, which is a problem for people who don't have extra doors. I guess it's not a bad investment to buy extra doors though.
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lovethyEVO said:
From what I have seen, most battery life comparisons/stats are usually done with the phone in standby/screen off majority of the time.
I decided to do it the other way.
I am using the seidio extended battery
My opinion is that all these gimmicks that we have to go through to get good battery life while in standy are not necessary.
It kind of makes sense as to why some people who charge their stock batteries in the ebay externals get better battery life, it's because they are actually being charged properly.
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Here is my take and i edited your post down to the points i am discussing.
First I like the fact you realize most battery tests and many of the people getting ridiculous battery life are idle most of the time (even if they say they are moderate use normally they have 1-3 hours of moderate use out of the 30 hours battery life they claim). I think showing actual usage time is much more impressive.
Now if you are going to do a battery post and talk about opinions and what your battery life is ... i don't suggest using an extended battery. you show that over aprox 8 hours of use (wont classify it as heavy moderate etc since you didnt) you lost about 50% the problem here is the extended battery from seidio has a much larger capacity then your standard htc battery that comes with evo (even if it doesnt actually have the 3500mah it is still a lot more). On a est i did i could play a movie on a stock battery for just over 5 hours before the battery drained using nothing but the stock install of a rom and without changing settings to turn things off etc. So in my opinion the battery life you are showing is actually a little low for that battery but that not really the point.
now as for the evo charging incorrectly. the reason why peoples batteries drop quickly the first 20-30 minutes (for most who have a correctly calibrated "battery") is because EVO doesn't have a trickle charge. this doesnt mean the evo isnt charging the battery correctly. the idea behind not having a trickle charge is it helps prolong the life of the battery it self at the cost of 0-10% charge depending on where it is when you take it off the charger.
While i personally would rather have the trickle charge and have to buy replacement batteries more often. it isnt that the evo charges incorrectly it. They jsut made the choice to try to make the battery itself last as long as possible at the cost of some battery use time depending on when you take it off the charger.

These are my latest seidio 3500 numbers with correct battery conditioning. Going to try and duplicate these numbers. Most of about 10 hours was slacker and pandora. This was from 100 to 14 percent on 3500 seidio. Pics for your pleasure and debate. I was able to get another 8 hours standby from this point and hour of lets golf before battery died. That was my 2nd conditioning of the battery. Going on 3rd full slow trickle charge up now. The trickle charge on battery wall charger takes about 12 hours wtf but worth it. I just use my cheap china 3000mah to cover the time.
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omegasun18 said:
Here is my take and i edited your post down to the points i am discussing.
First I like the fact you realize most battery tests and many of the people getting ridiculous battery life are idle most of the time (even if they say they are moderate use normally they have 1-3 hours of moderate use out of the 30 hours battery life they claim). I think showing actual usage time is much more impressive.
Now if you are going to do a battery post and talk about opinions and what your battery life is ... i don't suggest using an extended battery. you show that over aprox 8 hours of use (wont classify it as heavy moderate etc since you didnt) you lost about 50% the problem here is the extended battery from seidio has a much larger capacity then your standard htc battery that comes with evo (even if it doesnt actually have the 3500mah it is still a lot more). On a est i did i could play a movie on a stock battery for just over 5 hours before the battery drained using nothing but the stock install of a rom and without changing settings to turn things off etc. So in my opinion the battery life you are showing is actually a little low for that battery but that not really the point.
now as for the evo charging incorrectly. the reason why peoples batteries drop quickly the first 20-30 minutes (for most who have a correctly calibrated "battery") is because EVO doesn't have a trickle charge. this doesnt mean the evo isnt charging the battery correctly. the idea behind not having a trickle charge is it helps prolong the life of the battery it self at the cost of 0-10% charge depending on where it is when you take it off the charger.
While i personally would rather have the trickle charge and have to buy replacement batteries more often. it isnt that the evo charges incorrectly it. They jsut made the choice to try to make the battery itself last as long as possible at the cost of some battery use time depending on when you take it off the charger.
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50% loss over 8 hours of near constant use (my awake time shows that it did manage to sleep somehow even though I streamed pandora constantly) on any battery (extended or not) is actually a good thing as it shows that even with the phone fully bogged down (almost all radios on) it can last a full work day (which is what most people are concerned about).
I still believe the evo does not charge the batteries correctly and it is not solely related on the absence of a trickle charge.
Again, from my observations over the course of the past three weeks. I started with what my battery was calibrated to according to the phone. Let it drain down to about 15% (according to the phone) and wiped the battery stats and did a different charging method from the htc "rain dance".
Here is where my opinion of the evo not charging properly comes into play.
From 15% to 100% charge (charged while phone and screen are on to monitor voltage, temp, mA draw, etc.) took about an hour +/- a couple minutes. As soon as the led turned green (yes, I literally sat at my phone watching the percent slowly rise) I unplugged the charger and noted the resting voltage level and percent (according to three seperate battery status applications). Once noted, I powered down the phone. After the screen completely shut off I removed the battery and tested the voltage. I did this for my own information because I wanted to verify the phone itself was actually reporting the voltage levels correctly. It was.
Now, recall that I had just charged the phone to 100% and had wiped battery stats prior to charging.
Replaced the battery back into the phone and powered up. Normally people see a jump in battery percentage when they power down and back up. Not in my case. To my amazement, the evo reported my battery as being at 78% charge level. So I went from being 100% charged down to 78% percent charge all from powering down, removing the battery, checking voltage, and then replacing battery and powering up. Time to power down, remove, check voltage, replace and power up is somewhere around the one minute mark +/-.
Again, referencing the link I provided earlier about charging li-ion batteries, the evo seems to skip stage 2 of the charging process which usually results in about a 70% charge (according to the link).
Charged it again from the 78% mark to 100% and the charging time took just over an hour to get back to 100%. Same routine, check voltage on phone, power down, remove battery, check voltage on mmeter, replace battery, power on, check levels.
Second time around I dropped from 100% charge to about 89%. Voltage levels were always accurate. Charged again and took about another hour +/- and finally achieved a charge to where it would not fall or rise between a power down (97% seems to be my cap which is fine since I don't want to truly charge the battery to 100%).
To test the discharge rate I tried my best to keep the battery running condition identical for each discharge run.
I monitored the battery temp, cpu temp, battery voltage, amp draw, and cpu load.
Streaming only pandora and nothing else I usually managed to keep the amp draw to around 300 - 360mA with the screen on. This was my way of measuring the discharge rate without access to equipment that could give the battery a steady discharge load.
Every time the percentage dropped one I would note the volts, temps, amp draw and cpu load. Across the board temps and cpu load remained close to constant as the phone wasn't doing too much multitasking.
At this point, I have about 4 full voltage readouts from 100% down to 15%. Without wiping battery stats, if I charge the phone with my method (charge to 100%, power down, remove battery, replace battery, power up and recharge) my past voltage readouts coincide with my battery readouts on the phone (87% falls within a certain voltage range and so on) but if I just charge the battery until the phone says it's 100% then the readouts on the phone no longer fall within my past readouts until I go back to my charging method. This tells me that if I let the evo charge the battery the way it is programmed to (hardware or software) then it is not actually charging the battery to its full potential (not necessarily 100%).
Across the board the cpu load and the temps rarely drastically changed as it wasn't running multiple tasks at once. This is just my own observations and tests that I did/started doing for my own intellectual reference.
I have done the same charging method with my wife's evo and stock battery (1500 htc oem). I wiped her stats but only managed to get two full voltage readouts with her phone. She has stated that her battery does last longer than before and she is only rooted to remove bloatware. She is running stock rom, stock kernel, no task killers, no memory managers, and her radios and settings are close to mine (she gets more mail and facebook notifications than I do).
Again, this is just my opinion and personal observations. I did this solely because I got tired of having to constantly turn things on and off just to use them. My past phones never had this problem and I don't think the evo should have to be babied just to get good battery life. I still believe it all lies in the charging system of the phone and not necessarily the battery (extended versus stock).

Hey, what battery conditioning did you guys do? There's a ton of different suggestions and I am wondering if one or two have finally been proven to not be placebo.

I decided to do the HTC charging method when I changed roms to cm6. I went into hboot after and wipe stats. Turned on and took about 20 minutes to get to 98% using internet. Anyways I let phone die. Plug it in and I have system monitory with history monitoring. So I go to bed, and wake up to expect 100%. Nope 80%. Checked the monitor and trickled from 80% to 70% for 2 whole hours. I did the HTC thing again for full charge. Repeated. Only charges to 80%!!!! I changed roms. Same thing.
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martyzidek said:
I decided to do the HTC charging method when I changed roms to cm6. I went into hboot after and wipe stats. Turned on and took about 20 minutes to get to 98% using internet. Anyways I let phone die. Plug it in and I have system monitory with history monitoring. So I go to bed, and wake up to expect 100%. Nope 80%. Checked the monitor and trickled from 80% to 70% for 2 whole hours. I did the HTC thing again for full charge. Repeated. Only charges to 80%!!!! I changed roms. Same thing.
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Your situation also points to my opinion that the charging system on the evo does not charge correctly. I am also thinking that the battery stats dont play a huge role but I still jave more monitoring to do.

I also prefer the constant-use benchmarks, and did one myself as well. Charge to 100% and then stream DI.fm using XiiaLive (96Kbps MP3) through WiFi (router in same room) + full brightness + screen ON (no timeout). My poor Evo lasted 3:55 before forced shutdown . Btw, running Fresh v3.1.0.2 with netarchy v4.1.8-cfs, no SetCPU or any other "battery saving" tools.

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I also prefer the constant-use benchmarks, and did one myself as well. Charge to 100% and then stream DI.fm using XiiaLive (96Kbps MP3) through WiFi (router in same room) + full brightness + screen ON (no timeout). My poor Evo lasted 3:55 before forced shutdown . Btw, running Fresh v3.1.0.2 with netarchy v4.1.8-cfs, no SetCPU or any other "battery saving" tools.
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I am at work now and when I get home I plan on charging the stock battery as best as I can and doing another constant use run to satisfy the crowd who run the stock battery.

N7 Powers off when battery reaches 20%

So I thought this was a fluke the first time then I was just able to reproduce the issue again. Once the battery level reaches 20%, the tablet will either shut itself down using the built in shutdown command or will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
I've charged it thoroughly and have even drained the battery down to 1% in the past but this keeps happening now. Any ideas?
Stock ROM/Rooted/TWRP

Tony_YYZ said:
So I thought this was a fluke the first time then I was just able to reproduce the issue again. Once the battery level reaches 20%, the tablet will either shut itself down using the built in shutdown command or will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
I've charged it thoroughly and have even drained the battery down to 1% in the past but this keeps happening now. Any ideas?
Stock ROM/Rooted/TWRP
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this hasn't happend on my nexus yet but something similar happened to my LG Nitro HD. I basically rooted it and tried some battery calibrating apps on the Play store. In custom recoveries there's also this option to wipe batter status which i think might fix it but i've never tried it.

The battery gauge can be quite inaccurate. From what I have seen, I think Asus cut some corners in calibrating it for the specific battery chemistry - which makes things even worse.
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will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
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It's not as if, there is no power left. The battery gauge simply had a wrong estimate of the remaining charge and suddenly the battery voltage collapses (happens very quickly towards the end of the discharge curve) and the N7 shuts down.
Messing with the battery stats doesn't do anything useful.
If you do a full charge / discharge cycle that may help a little with battery gauge accuracy. The battery gauge does some recalibration when doing that.
After a forced shutdown, fully charge and make sure the tablet sits around fully charged for at least 1h (e.g. just plugging it in over night will do fine). Then do a full discharge cycle with the N7 not plugged in at any time (normal usage will do just fine).
Those battery calibration apps don't anything useful, beyond getting you to run a full charge / discharge cycle.

Never happened on my Nexus 7, which have been taken down to 14% more than 10 times in the last 2 month. If what are suggested above don't work then use this tool to restore stock then Warranty return it or return it to store if you still have time,

Wonder if this is what happened to me last night. Was watching a video and it just shut off like the battery was dead. I wasn't paying attention to the battery but was almost positive it wasn't anywhere near zero yet. Never had the low battery pop up on me either. Hopefully it was a fluke...

there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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tni.andro said:
The battery gauge can be quite inaccurate. From what I have seen, I think Asus cut some corners in calibrating it for the specific battery chemistry - which makes things even worse.
It's not as if, there is no power left. The battery gauge simply had a wrong estimate of the remaining charge and suddenly the battery voltage collapses (happens very quickly towards the end of the discharge curve) and the N7 shuts down.
Messing with the battery stats doesn't do anything useful.
If you do a full charge / discharge cycle that may help a little with battery gauge accuracy. The battery gauge does some recalibration when doing that.
After a forced shutdown, fully charge and make sure the tablet sits around fully charged for at least 1h (e.g. just plugging it in over night will do fine). Then do a full discharge cycle with the N7 not plugged in at any time (normal usage will do just fine).
Those battery calibration apps don't anything useful, beyond getting you to run a full charge / discharge cycle.
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NovaSense said:
Never happened on my Nexus 7, which have been taken down to 14% more than 10 times in the last 2 month. If what are suggested above don't work then use this tool to restore stock then Warranty return it or return it to store if you still have time,
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Kohawk09 said:
Wonder if this is what happened to me last night. Was watching a video and it just shut off like the battery was dead. I wasn't paying attention to the battery but was almost positive it wasn't anywhere near zero yet. Never had the low battery pop up on me either. Hopefully it was a fluke...
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millicent said:
there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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I had tried completely discharging it and then leaving it to charge overnight a handful of times without any luck. I ended up just restoring it to factory state and getting a replacement via Google Play Warranty Support. The new unit works just fine. It's an 07/2013 build unit just like the first one if anyone was interested.

by any chance do you use a qi wireless charger?
I have encountered a weird bug where if I charge my nexus 7 with a qi charger to 100% and leave it on the charger itll screw up the percentage/battery stats. with my situation, itll lock my battery % to 100% and wont go down until i go into twrp. If i just go into twrp and not recalibrate the battery stats, the percentage would be off and my nexus wont show the right %, so my nexus would shut off at random % instead of the normal 1% or 0.

millicent said:
there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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I can confirm this!
Did help on many devices for me with battery calibration erros...
Last one was a Galaxy S2 last weekend - turned of immediately, showed 0% upon start.
Took battery out for 4 hours, put it back in then and voila... 92% and everythings fine again.

junkinmytrunk426 said:
by any chance do you use a qi wireless charger?
I have encountered a weird bug where if I charge my nexus 7 with a qi charger to 100% and leave it on the charger itll screw up the percentage/battery stats. with my situation, itll lock my battery % to 100% and wont go down until i go into twrp. If i just go into twrp and not recalibrate the battery stats, the percentage would be off and my nexus wont show the right %, so my nexus would shut off at random % instead of the normal 1% or 0.
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No, I do not have a QI charger. I was always using a USB wall charger.

[Q] Is my battery normal?

Yesterday when I woke up my G2 has 20% battery left, then I charge it to 80%. Then in the evening I charge it again 40%-80%. Then today I woke up again, (In the first SS)I'm just curious why is my "Usage in Battery" reaches 46 hours 29 minutes? It combines the usage on the other day and yesterday. "Expected time to use" is 61 hours, but I know it is not accurate because when I started playing games for like 10mins it goes down to 1hour left haha. And in the second SS, I'm assuming that it also combines the Screen time of the other day and yesterday.
a 20%-80%=60%
b 40%-80%=40%
c a + b = 100% I think it is 1 full cycle and should turn my battery Usage to 0 min again.
Is this normal? I don't really understand how G2's battery works.
I usually charge my G2 two times a day because of games. And charges it when it reaches below 40% to 80%. I don't really drain it and charge it to 100%. Am I doing it right?

coowkeee said:
Yesterday when I woke up my G2 has 20% battery left, then I charge it to 80%. Then in the evening I charge it again 40%-80%. Then today I woke up again, (In the first SS)I'm just curious why is my "Usage in Battery" reaches 46 hours 29 minutes? It combines the usage on the other day and yesterday. "Expected time to use" is 61 hours, but I know it is not accurate because when I started playing games for like 10mins it goes down to 1hour left haha. And in the second SS, I'm assuming that it also combines the Screen time of the other day and yesterday.
a 20%-80%=60%
b 40%-80%=40%
c a + b = 100% I think it is 1 full cycle and should turn my battery Usage to 0 min again.
Is this normal? I don't really understand how G2's battery works.
I usually charge my G2 two times a day because of games. And charges it when it reaches below 40% to 80%. I don't really drain it and charge it to 100%. Am I doing it right?
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I think it is better to charge it 100%.
But if the battery dies you can always replace it

I'm a person who tries to not to do what you do because it could over time damage the battery. I always charge to 100% and try to drain it as much as I can before I recharge it.
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clapper66 said:
I'm a person who tries to not to do what you do because it could over time damage the battery. I always charge to 100% and try to drain it as much as I can before I recharge it.
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And you'll damage your battery faster. Your approach was good for nickel based batteries, not good for lithium-ion.
This is the first link from Google search, there are many posts about it:
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

only if you charge it to 100%, then the statistic will starts a new one,
if you're charging up to 80% and disconnect the charger, the statistic will keep from the previous full battery charge statistic.

zekurosu said:
only if you charge it to 100%, then the statistic will starts a new one,
if you're charging up to 80% and disconnect the charger, the statistic will keep from the previous full battery charge statistic.
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Then people who always post their SS of the usage on battery of their phone that are hitting 2-3 days are all just being boastful? haha
That's why I'm always curious about my battery info because it is not always accurate and people tend to believe that their "usage on battery" info are always correct. I'm not saying all, but there are so many.
@chaki- do you know where I can find a replacement battery on my G2? Then if yes I will probably destroy my phone for charging 100% all the time.
@clapper66 , as @ddavtian said, it is for nickel based batteries only and you should change the way you charge your G2.

coowkeee said:
Then people who always post their SS of the usage on battery of their phone that are hitting 2-3 days are all just being boastful? haha
That's why I'm always curious about my battery info because it is not always accurate and people tend to believe that their "usage on battery" info are always correct. I'm not saying all, but there are so many.
@chaki- do you know where I can find a replacement battery on my G2? Then if yes I will probably destroy my phone for charging 100% all the time.
@clapper66 , as @ddavtian said, it is for nickel based batteries only and you should change the way you charge your G2.
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so its bad to kill a battery down to 10% then re charge to 100%?

clapper66 said:
so its bad to kill a battery down to 10% then re charge to 100%?
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I have been using my phones always the same way when it comes to charging.
Have never had issues with the batterys.
My sensation xl is more then 2 years old and still can standby more then 36hr wifi etc. on with the original battery.
What destroying are you talking about?
Thats the same if you don't drive your car, not to change your car battery......
At the end i bought that phone to use it, not other way arround.
One battery doesn't cost the world. There are service shops that can change it.

That link is a good read. Gonna try it from now on as this beast of a phone needs proper care as well :what:
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What can happen if the battery reach 0% and the phone shutdown?

Hi guys, I usually lost about 3% overnight with 4G and power saving mode. But tonight a strange thing happened. For the first time, I got a huge battery drain. I leave the phone at 01:30 am with 25% and this morning I found it turned off. I think that is impossible to lose 25% over 7 hours, what could be happened? I would like to know if the fact that the battery has reached 0% and the phone shutted down can damage the battery.
I am a little bit worried since I read a lot about the fact that the battery never should reach 0% and the phone doesn't have to shutdown.
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No it can't damage the battery. At least not if you charge it in the next few days. Here's the thing. The battery voltage should never reach under 2.5v. If this happen, the small chipset inside the battery will completely turn it off in order to prevent further loss of voltage. When this happens, the battery pins will be unresponsive, meaning that it can't provide electricity and can't get electricity either. It means you won't be able to charge it with your regular charger. At this point it's not even completely dead, but it would need some professional chargers to in order to revive it.
With that being said, your phone shuts down well before reaching 2.5v. Unless you leave the battery it at 0% for days (or probably weeks) you can still charge it and everything will be perfectly fine.

ZeroCGTI said:
No it can't damage the battery. At least not if you charge it in the next few days. Here's the thing. The battery voltage should never reach under 2.5v. If this happen, the small chipset inside the battery will completely turn it off in order to prevent further loss of voltage. When this happens, the battery pins will be unresponsive, meaning that it can't provide electricity and can't get electricity either. It means you won't be able to charge it with your regular charger. At this point it's not even completely dead, but it would need some professional chargers to in order to revive it.
With that being said, your phone shuts down well before reaching 2.5v. Unless you leave the battery it at 0% for days (or probably weeks) you can still charge it and everything will be perfectly fine.
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First, thank you for the explanation, I don't know so much things about batteries, but I do know that there are a lot of legends out there. Usually I charge my phone when I reach 4/5% not less. Is that a bad beavhiour? About my topic, like I said this is the very first time that the battery completely discharge and the phone obviously shut itself down. When I woke up I putted the phone into charge immediately. I just hope that it's all ok, but I don't understand how it is possible to drain 25% of battery over 7 hours or less.
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It doesn't really matter for Lithium-Ion batteries. It's not bad, but it's not good either. Use the way you like it. There's no harm in charging it to 100% every time you see it under 50%. There's no harm if you don't charge it from 0 to 70% either. It really doesn't matter. The worst thing that can potentially happen is to get some odd numbers for the remaining charge. Like having 80% and in just 2 minutes to have 76%. The capacity of the battery will be the same, it will last the same, only the indicator might be a little inaccurate. If you ever notice this, do a full cycle. Discharge it to 0% (let the phone shut-down), charge it to 100% and that's it. It will show accurate readings again.
But you don't have to do that constantly. Only if notice wrong readings.

ZeroCGTI said:
It doesn't really matter for Lithium-Ion batteries. It's not bad, but it's not good either. Use the way you like it. There's no harm in charging it to 100% every time you see it under 50%. There's no harm if you don't charge it from 0 to 70% either. It really doesn't matter. The worst thing that can potentially happen is to get some odd numbers for the remaining charge. Like having 80% and in just 2 minutes to have 76%. The capacity of the battery will be the same, it will last the same, only the indicator might be a little inaccurate. If you ever notice this, do a full cycle. Discharge it to 0% (let the phone shut-down), charge it to 100% and that's it. It will show accurate readings again.
But you don't have to do that constantly. Only if notice wrong readings.
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Until now i didn't saw any wrong readings, except from 100% to about 94/95% where the battery drop faster. Except that i often let the battery reach 4/5%, but if it is not good i will charge it when it reach max 10%. About the 0% question i hope that this will not happen again and that the battery keeps its complete functionality after this episode

Don't worry, it's good. Li-Ion batteries are way more durable than the old Li-Pol batteries.

I hope so Thank you.

I had 37% battery drained overnight and wondered why...I turned off google photos backup and now is fine. I still lost about 9% overnight but it isn;t too bad as I get a lot of notifications through the night

thegame261 said:
I had 37% battery drained overnight and wondered why...I turned off google photos backup and now is fine. I still lost about 9% overnight but it isn;t too bad as I get a lot of notifications through the night
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In my case my phone drains about 3/4% overnight, but like i said this morning i found it turned off and i leave it with 25% of charge. Very weird, i don't have an explanation yet.

turtuv said:
In my case my phone drains about 3/4% overnight, but like i said this morning i found it turned off and i leave it with 25% of charge. Very weird, i don't have an explanation yet.
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Well on my 6s plus it seems to die when at 8% which it did yesterday. It never gets under 5% it does before that

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Well on my 6s plus it seems to die when at 8% which it did yesterday. It never gets under 5% it does before that
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The S7 arrives at 1% tops.
It doesn't really matter for Lithium-Ion batteries. It's not bad, but it's not good either. Use the way you like it. There's no harm in charging it to 100% every time you see it under 50%. There's no harm if you don't charge it from 0 to 70% either. It really doesn't matter.
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About that, i read some topic on other forums where people says that is very bad discharge the phone until 4/5% and they says that the correct thing to do should be to discharge the phone when it reach 40% of charge, because under that percentage the battery's life became shorter. This seems really strange to me.