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This is why your battery drops 10-15% in the first 20 minutes.

Plain and simple: When the Evo is fully charged, it begins running off its battery until you plug it back in. It DOES NOT trickle charge whatsoever after it reaches 100%. When you're using your Evo on the charger, and it's showing full 100% charge, it is running off the battery, not the AC plug. And then when you unplug it, well, we all know what happens next. The battery meter drops insanely fast to the actual charge of the battery, which could be very low, depending on how long it's been sitting idle at 100% on your charger.
So all those times you've charged your Evo overnight, only to take it to work the next day and be at 80% within an hour? Your Evo was running off its battery for what I'm guessing was most of the night. It takes my Evo about an hour to two hours to fully charge back to 100%. Let's say you put your Evo on the charger at 11PM, it'll reach full charge by 1AM at the latest, and then run off its battery until whenever you take it off the charger in the morning.
Workarounds?
1) Turn your Evo off while it's charging.
2) If you must leave it on for an alarm clock, put it in airplane mode and end all CPU intensive tasks to minimize battery drain.
3) When you wake up, unplug it for 10-20 minutes (still experimenting with this number), and then plug it back in to top it off. Once it reaches 100%, take it off the charger, and go about your day.
Try it out for yourself. When your Evo is 100% charged, take it off the charger immediately, and I highly doubt you will lose the 10%-15% within minutes. Please share your findings.

Er... Point of note, mine does it even if I pull it off the charger right when it turns green.

Post some technical schematic or other type of proof that shows that this circuitry isn't available in the EVO. That will prove beyond a doubt if what your saying is true.
That being said, only a group of the most retarded electrical engineers would design a charging system as you've described. It is INSANELY easy to build Li-Polymer charging circuitry that does the following (and it pretty much has to do these):
1. Detects battery temperature, and disables charging as a protective measure. In an emergency case it should shut off the device it's powering to allow the battery to cool down. This is a design requirement, or else your house burns down as you dump water on a Lithium fire thinking it's going to put it out. If you have a HERO, you can easily test this. Running the wireless tethering, GPS/Navigation, and Music with the screen running heats up the phone a ton. You'll notice the status light blink green once, then red a couple of times. This means that it's plugged in but not charging. Cool the phone down and it turns solid red again (charging).
2. Disable charging cycle when battery reaches a certain voltage. VERY SIMPLE voltage detection circuitry! The designer can of course adjust a gap to have charging turn back on when it dips below a certain voltage. Usually since this circuitry can be made with a decent amount of precision, that "turn back on" voltage ends up being roughly when the battery discharges to maybe 99.5%. That's just a guess, I admit but there's no harm in having the circuit switch on and off, even if it's often.
There are also a few other circuits that prevent the cell from blowing up in your pocket, like a current sensor to prevent an overcurrent. There's also some stuff that prevents you from being able to discharge the cell below it's avalanche voltage. In case you don't know what that is, when a Li-Ion battery discharges to a certain voltage, it avalanches to 0 (quickly falls). If it hits that point, you've pretty much ruined the battery and it will never charge the same again.
Anyway, this is stuff they taught and had design labs on back in college. While I have no actual proof that the phone wasn't designed as the OP describes, I find it highly unlikely. If this is the behavior that the circuitry exhibits, I would find it easier to believe that it's a design flaw, probably because some idiot didn't compile the correct bill of materials.

I haven't got any schematics or any sort of technical information on the subject. All I know is, it works wonders for me. When I take my Evo off the charger in the morning, it literally drops to ~90% within minutes. Once it does that, if I place it back on the charger for ~20 minutes, it charges back to 100% and stays there for 45 minutes to an hour.
I'd urge anybody who is noticing the immediate 10% to 15% drop in battery to give this a shot.

I would turn it off while I'm charging it overnight, but I use it as my alarm clock

Me Too
I am seeing the exact same behavior as the OP. This is really lame. Because of this, most people will end up losing 10% of their battery every day. Pretty lame.

I charge my phone overnight every night. Never noticed a problem and I just checked my battery and its at 88% and has been off the charger for 2.5hours so I'm not seeing the rapid discharge issue some people are seeing.

I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.

Grims said:
I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.
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I'm beginning to think that once the battery reaches 100% full, it runs off the battery until it reaches some arbitrary percentage. At which point it starts charging until it reaches 100% again, and then continues this cycle.
I'm testing a few other things right now. Part of me is convinced it reports 100% charge when it's actually below that level.

Krynj said:
I haven't got any schematics or any sort of technical information on the subject. All I know is, it works wonders for me. When I take my Evo off the charger in the morning, it literally drops to ~90% within minutes. Once it does that, if I place it back on the charger for ~20 minutes, it charges back to 100% and stays there for 45 minutes to an hour.
I'd urge anybody who is noticing the immediate 10% to 15% drop in battery to give this a shot.
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I'll try this out to see if I can get the same kind of behavior. I guess I honestly haven't looked to see if the phone drops 10-15% after pulling it off.
Krynj said:
I'm beginning to think that once the battery reaches 100% full, it runs off the battery until it reaches some arbitrary percentage. At which point it starts charging until it reaches 100% again, and then continues this cycle.
I'm testing a few other things right now. Part of me is convinced it reports 100% charge when it's actually below that level.
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This is what should be happening I believe, but I'd be surprised if it was set to such a huge swing like 10-15%
Grims said:
I don't think so man, I leave my screen on full brightness while it's charging, and if what you said was true it would go dead on the charger.
I think it's more likely the cells haven’t charged equally, so you get a big initial drop.
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This is an interesting theory. I do know that when you have multiple Li-Ion cells in a battery pack, if they discharge unevenly, you have to go off of the lowest charged cell. Again, if a cell were to drop below the avalanche voltage, you'd ruin the pack all together. On the other hand, the circuitry should let ALL cells charge to 100% so it's even again. Maybe they screwed this up, that design isn't so easy! Perhaps it detects one cell as 100% and shuts off the charge. Therefore, one could surmise that if you started with an unevenly charged battery pack, you'd have an immediate decrease in charge to the rating of the lowest charged cell. The good news (maybe) is that this is sometimes implemented with software. That means that HTC could release a bug fix for this, or if we have a savvy dev, they could try to fix it. We just need to prove the theory though.
This is all just a guess, keep that in mind. If I notice something like this with my phone today, maybe I can tear apart the battery and measure the voltage on each cell (if it even has multiple cells). I have a spare, so maybe I'd be up for this. Krynj (or anyone), if you have the HTC Hero, try charging your battery pack with it, see if it exhibits the same behavior on the Hero itself. If it doesn't, then try putting it back into the EVO and see if after a night of charging, it still drops 10-15% after disconnecting it from the AC.

The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.

Apple laptops don't charge unless battery is below 90%. If you plug in the AC and the battery is above 90%, it will just run off AC power but I don't think the battery drains any then.

My battery life has been less than stellar, but I didn't notice it dropping 10-15% instantly off the charger. I did notice that it'd drop about 10% after driving to work with xiialive streaming, which was unusual to me. The battery would start running out after about 9 hours at work. I'd be in the yellow by the time I got home, and the battery would be complaining for a charge in the evening. So that's roughly 12 hours I would be getting out of the phone after normal use.
Since I'm suspecting an issue with the charging circuitry, I just recently tried charging my battery with the Hero. After it was fully charged, I put it back into my EVO last night and haven't charged it since. It's been running 13 hours, and is still nearly full green. The charge is at about 70%. I've been trying to graph the discharge all day too. It only dropped to 87% over night, dropped to 80% when I drove to work (xiialive), and then down to 74% after I spent some time setting up icons and modifying my home screen. This is...hands down a butt ton better than the past week.
I'm not using 4G.
WiFi is off.
3G is on.
GPS is on.
Not running a live wallpaper.
Sync is running at default settings.
Widgets that could be updating constantly:
I have the Clock/Weather HTC widget running.
I have the Dictionary.com "word of the day" widget.
I have the Friendstream Widget running.
Craigslist Craignotifica app is running, set to notify me with search results.
The results are inconclusive though. Yesterday, I wiped and re-flashed DamageControl 3.2.x from scratch (backed up all apps with Ti-Backup, this means Android Market won't be notifying me if there are app updates -grumble-). So, somewhere between re-flashing and also charging my battery with the Hero caused this turn around.

apollooff320 said:
The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.
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Interesting.....Will have to give a try. Will report back later.

I'm waiting for some definitive results with the "use another charging device or battery" method. It seems that the EVO just sucks at recharging the battery since people who have used another phone or a separate charger seem to report better results.
I leave my phone off at night and charge it - when I turn it on in the morning it still drops 5-10% in the first 20 minutes. But during the day it drops REALLY slow, so I still can get about 13-16 hours before 15% easily.
I have manual account sync, 3g only, wifi at home, usually gps is off, auto backlight settings for screen, and I don't run too many apps in the background, I just use them when I need them.

Has anybody found a solution to this? It's really starting to bother me. I've noticed that I don't seem to have the issue if I charge -> recovery -> wipe battery stats -> reboot. That kind of leads me to believe that something is inaccurate about the battery stats and the phone instead uses the actual raw value provided by the battery instead of whatever it is that it does with the battery stats.

I can tell you this, I bought two of the cheap battery chargers off of ebay and I have two OEM evo batteries. I don't even plug my phone in anymore. I get an hour of standby at 100% from those chargers and it falls instantly when charging from the phone. I just run them down then swap them out. I couldn't be happier and they are only like 10 bucks each with 2 batteries each.
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jnewkirk10 said:
I can tell you this, I bought two of the cheap battery chargers off of ebay and I have two OEM evo batteries. I don't even plug my phone in anymore. I get an hour of standby at 100% from those chargers and it falls instantly when charging from the phone. I just run them down then swap them out. I couldn't be happier and they are only like 10 bucks each with 2 batteries each.
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can you post a link or ebay or where ever u bought it from?

Try this I'm doing it from the phone
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250641711190&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1991wt_913
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apollooff320 said:
The reason why the battery dies so fast has something to do with the memory card. Charge your phone and take the SD card out and watch it stay at 100% for a long as time. Then do it again with the SD card in and watch it dip down fast.
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If you have apps on your sd card that are running then yes that could be the case. SD cards need power to work but I dont know how much they draw..

If you guys want great battery life, charge your battery in a TP2

That's right... For some stupid reason, our phones don't detect when the battery is ACTUALLY full. Getting annoyed with the having to charge my phone twice a day, I stuck my battery in my old Touch Pro 2 (left it powered off) and plugged it in... It took about 5 hours for it to fully charge and I let it sit for another hour.
I took it off the charger at 11AM... It is now 11PM and I'm at 68% and I've been doing more browsing and downloading than usual. Previously, I would have hit 20% by now and had to plug in the charger.
Once you charge the battery in this manner once, it should be fine from there because the cells have been fully charged for the first time. As long as you don't drain the device completely, you shouldn't run into battery issues.

Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good

I've been pounding the hell out of this thing today... I've racked up 8 hours of "active" usage... so actually I've used my phone more than normal.
The first clue for me was the fact that my battery didn't drop from 100% to 90% in five minutes like it was before... It would usually drop to 80 within an hour, even on standby...
It was at 92% when I got to work at noon.

Unreal, I never thought I would search ebay for a phone with a BAD esn

What I think is unreal is that our 2010 devices can't do something other devices have been able to do since 2006... AT LEAST 2006...

I'm running fresh .3 and I've had the phone unplugged for 1d 0h 15m and still have 30% left... so I don't have an issue with the battery at all.

EtherealRemnant said:
What I think is unreal is that our 2010 devices can't do something other devices have been able to do since 2006... AT LEAST 2006...
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I have an IPAQ Pocket PC from 2002 that detects and charges its lithium battery just fine!

Plancy said:
Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good
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I have two of these chargers and 4 batteries. I keep two at work and two at home.
These chargers top the battery completely off. I can take a battery that is "fully charged" in the phone and put it in the charger and it will still need 20-30 minutes of charging. The batteries off the charger will stay at 100% for up to 20 minutes, the ones charged in the phone plunge within 1 minute for me.

I really hope this issue can be fixed with a software update. Charging once a day is one thing, but having to take the cover off, battery out and reboot every morning is not acceptable. Not to mention that I rely on my phone while it is charging for emergency calls.

ramiss said:
I really hope this issue can be fixed with a software update. Charging once a day is one thing, but having to take the cover off, battery out and reboot every morning is not acceptable. Not to mention that I rely on my phone while it is charging for emergency calls.
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AFAIK it affects all HTC Android devices. HTC is lazy. Anyway I even put my old TP battery which hasn't been charged for at least 6 months in and charged it with the TP. It appears the first 5% is dead but it is still kicking ass and taking names over the charge I get from the evo.

myth_mn said:
I'm running fresh .3 and I've had the phone unplugged for 1d 0h 15m and still have 30% left... so I don't have an issue with the battery at all.
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Your battery was probably charged to capacity before they sold you the phone. Once a lithium ion battery has been charged to 100% it maintains its charge unless you screw it up by running it down to empty a few times. The problem is that for whatever reason HTC didn't see fit to charge all batteries to their max first even full well knowing that they won't get conditioned properly by the phone.

EtherealRemnant said:
AFAIK it affects all HTC Android devices. HTC is lazy.
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Er...the TP2 is an HTC device though!
EtherealRemnant said:
I stuck my battery in my old Touch Pro 2 (left it powered off) and plugged it in...
I took it off the charger at 11AM... It is now 11PM and I'm at 68% and I've been doing more browsing and downloading than usual. Previously, I would have hit 20% by now and had to plug in the charger.
Once you charge the battery in this manner once, it should be fine from there because the cells have been fully charged for the first time. As long as you don't drain the device completely, you shouldn't run into battery issues.
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danknee said:
I have two of these chargers and 4 batteries. I keep two at work and two at home.
These chargers top the battery completely off. I can take a battery that is "fully charged" in the phone and put it in the charger and it will still need 20-30 minutes of charging. The batteries off the charger will stay at 100% for up to 20 minutes, the ones charged in the phone plunge within 1 minute for me.
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Did you buy from tuttoit on eBay?

Plancy said:
Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good
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I did too, but think mine is defective. The batteries are pretty good for backup purposes and do their job. My wall charger sucked though. I had a Droid Eris hooked up via USB and a battery on the charger. After about an hour and a half, the Eris charged fine, but the battery was like at 30%.
Now the deal breaker is when I got home. I tried to charge a battery and my EVO via USB. When ever I hooked up the USB my phone litterally lagged almost would freeze to a point. I removed the USB cable and phone worked fine. So in all my charger sucked and can charge the battery but really slow.
I ended up just charging the batteries with the OEM charger and EVO turned off.

ramiss said:
Er...the TP2 is an HTC device though!
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Yes, but an HTC Windows Mobile device, not Android.

I think OP is talking about the TP2 OEM battery, not some knock off that you buy off ebay. FYI there are tons of battery for TP2, so it would have been better if the OP can tell us exactly which one he got. Check out batteryboss for comparsion:
http://batteryboss.org/

Could there potentially be a software fix to make the evo handle battery management better, like the tp2?

nebenezer said:
Could there potentially be a software fix to make the evo handle battery management better, like the tp2?
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I am dying for Lumos on my EVO. I don't think the auto brightness control works for crap on my phone.

lettcco said:
I think OP is talking about the TP2 OEM battery, not some knock off that you buy off ebay. FYI there are tons of battery for TP2, so it would have been better if the OP can tell us exactly which one he got. Check out batteryboss for comparsion:
http://batteryboss.org/
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Actually i was talking about putting your evo battery IN a touch pro 2 in order to charge all the cells.

So this is the reason why the EVO appears to be charging its battery so fast. I plugged it in, and it takes less than an hour to start beeping "I'm full."
......Because it's not really full.
That would explain why I was about to sleep, the EVO was charged, and I got an email, so it kept beeping every 10 minutes or so. which was annoying. I had to unplug it so I could sleep. I slept only 7 hours, and I heard the phone on the little table beeping again like crazy in the morning. I checked what it wanted, and it was the super warning that the battery was about to die.
No use at all in 7 hours, and the battery went from "fully" charged to almost ZERO.
I was almost crying of laughter. I just thought what a piece of junk. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Now, let's watch the soccer game, let's see how the USA does.

Battery Power Drops from 100% to 90% in about 3 mins?

Has anyone else seen this? From 100 to 90% the power just drops almost instantaneously but after 90% its normal.

Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.

Studmf said:
Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.
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Ahh interesting. I thought I was running into an old winmo rom flashing issue where if you flashed under 50% battery life you could never charge the device above that point.

Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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two_cents said:
Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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Hmm i tried and it acted the same way.

Apparently the HTC models act like older phones did back in the day. What HTC needs to do is put something on the phone face itself when new that says "CHARGE FOR 4 HOURS BEFORE INITIAL POWER ON FOR MAXIMUM BATTERY LIFE."
Once you do this once you dont have to keep doing it. I also powered on my phone the minute I got it and activated it without charging it first and I was seeing this issue until I did a power off charge. The phone runs from 6am to 11pm without an additional charge cycle in the day and that is a huge improvement for me. I was charging the phone twice to three times daily.

is it bad to charge too long ?

Hi.
When i go to sleep after a normal day my battery is around 60%
Yesterday it was only 85% after a full day of usage.
I sleep around 4 - 5 hours at night. That is how long i charge my phone, its allways charging when i sleep.
But is it bad if my phone is charging for so long even if my battery was not complete empty ?

Racinghart91 said:
Hi.
When i go to sleep after a normal day my battery is around 60%
Yesterday it was only 85% after a full day of usage.
I sleep around 4 - 5 hours at night. That is how long i charge my phone, its allways charging when i sleep.
But is it bad if my phone is charging for so long even if my battery was not complete empty ?
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wow. That's great battery. I also usually charge my phone overnight, but I have <10% when I charged it.
I think it will damage the battery somehow, but I can't confirm this, many people have better battery knowledge rather than me, so just wait them to answer it.
But I wanna give suggestions, if your full day use is just consume max 40% batt, just put it in flight mode or turn it off overnight, so you still have enough juice for the next day.
I think it's more battery friendly rather than charge it overnight while still have alot juice in it.

I think it's better to put it in ultra power saving mode instead so you won't miss any important calls or texts.

It is lithium, replaceable battery. Either enjoy it fully charged or buy spare battery and craddle/charger to replace dead one when needed. It only will last so long and you may need replacement in about 2 years anyway.
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no its fine. if you want to increase charging time get a Qi charger which takes 5 hours to charge anyway.

Not much to worry about when the battery is user replaceable. You'll be fine, but even if you're not, you can get a brand new OEM battery for 30-35 USD.

No it isnt.. I have 3 years old galaxy s3 i have been always charging it overnight.. Still no issue.. Working good

ar216893 said:
wow. That's great battery. I also usually charge my phone overnight, but I have <10% when I charged it.
I think it will damage the battery somehow, but I can't confirm this, many people have better battery knowledge rather than me, so just wait them to answer it.
But I wanna give suggestions, if your full day use is just consume max 40% batt, just put it in flight mode or turn it off overnight, so you still have enough juice for the next day.
I think it's more battery friendly rather than charge it overnight while still have alot juice in it.
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thanks for the reply's guys.
well yes normal after a day at the office and then i play around at night and then it goes int he charger with 60 - 50 or 40% i really did not get lower then 40% yet.

Racinghart91 said:
thanks for the reply's guys.
well yes normal after a day at the office and then i play around at night and then it goes int he charger with 60 - 50 or 40% i really did not get lower then 40% yet.
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lol. that's really different..
Play a lil bit more and then charge it.
Or just charge it but don't use fast charge..

ar216893 said:
wow. That's great battery. I also usually charge my phone overnight, but I have <10% when I charged it.
I think it will damage the battery somehow, but I can't confirm this, many people have better battery knowledge rather than me, so just wait them to answer it.
But I wanna give suggestions, if your full day use is just consume max 40% batt, just put it in flight mode or turn it off overnight, so you still have enough juice for the next day.
I think it's more battery friendly rather than charge it overnight while still have alot juice in it.
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lol. that's really different..
Play a lil bit more and then charge it.
Or just charge it but don't use fast charge..
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i dont use fast charge at al, i tried it out when i charged it for the first time but thats about it i can last my day with one battery and if i would i could do 2 days.
i love the note 4 haha

How and when do you charge your battery?

Do you let your battery drop down to 5% before connecting the charger? Or do you charge every moment you get the chance to keep battery at max?
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Battery łasts a long time as it usually goes off the charger at 7 a.m. I charge it while sleeping. Occasionally out of habit I will charge it while I'm driving in the car but for about 15 minutes. Otherwise, I am very happy with the battery.
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markwebb said:
Battery my a long time as it usually goes off the charger at 7 a.m. I charge it while sleeping. Occasionally out of habit I will charge it while I'm driving in the car but for about 15 minutes. Otherwise, I am very happy with the battery.
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I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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I'm not constantly on my phone, so usually charge it up to 80% and recharge when it drops to 40%. I only charge it to 100% when I am out and about for the whole day. See the following link for charging advice:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-charge-phones-battery-3619623/

Namyep said:
I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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Overcharging won't happen on a advanced device like the S7.
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Namyep said:
I'm not an expert, but all I've heard is charging over night or after it hits 100% is bad. Why I don't know, but I try to charge my phone when it reaches everywhere from 15-30 to 95-100 then remove the charger.
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Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.

To be safe on the longevity of the battery I use one of these with my wireless charger :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003P...mer+outlet&dpPl=1&dpID=31OAEbif0lL&ref=plSrch
My battery is usually around 30-40% at the end of the day. I use the regular speed Samsung Charging Pad and set the timer on this outlet for 3 hours when I go to bed. So after 3 hours it stops charging and I don't have to worry about the possibility of damaging the battery (I know about trickle charging, but I think this is better)

Ive read somewhere that the new s7 edge charger doesnt have a power inverter so it keeps charging and wasting power which could damage the charger or possibly device. So know if thats correct.

eric150 said:
To be safe on the longevity of the battery I use one of these with my wireless charger :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003P...mer+outlet&dpPl=1&dpID=31OAEbif0lL&ref=plSrch
My battery is usually around 30-40% at the end of the day. I use the regular speed Samsung Charging Pad and set the timer on this outlet for 3 hours when I go to bed. So after 3 hours it stops charging and I don't have to worry about the possibility of damaging the battery (I know about trickle charging, but I think this is better)
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I just purchased one of those...thanks for the advice. I charge my device when get around 20%-30% of battery and left charging over night ( when sleeping) on my standard Samsung wireless charging. My battery is just ok.. I'm not so heavy user and sometimes I have to charge around 8pm or so. I take off from the charger at 100% all morning around 8am.
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At home. I do wireless when ever i can. If im not using the phone then i sit it on a wireless charger.
Battery hasnt drop pass 30% in the week i had the phone.
My note edge would drop pretty low because i didnt use wireless charging. So my phone would just sit in my pocket slowly draining.

ssgunner20 said:
Ive read somewhere that the new s7 edge charger doesnt have a power inverter so it keeps charging and wasting power which could damage the charger or possibly device. So know if thats correct.
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Whatever you read, either you misunderstood, or the person that typed it was a bumbling idiot. A power inverter converts DC power to AC. Your source/utility power is already AC. A USB charger is merely an AC adapter made for USB. The phone has integrated circuitry that controls when and when not to charge the battery and at what amperage.

I usually let mine get to around 5% everytime. Then charge it back fully to 100%.

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Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.
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Thanks for the details information. I figured the technology is so advanced with batteries that overcharging is in the past.

t12icky0 said:
I usually let mine get to around 5% everytime. Then charge it back fully to 100%.
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+1 :good:
J.Biden said:
Nah, that's old news. Modern chargers and devices know when they've hit 100%, so they stop charging at that point and lets the battery dip down to 98-99% before trickle charging up to 100 again, and so on until you unplug. It's completely safe, and you shouldn't trust all those garbage click-bait articles out there. Do not, however, go down to 0% before you recharge it. That can actually damage the cells in your battery, so plug it into the charger before that. If you notice some funky behavior from the battery, like if it's jumping from 30% to 20% in five minutes, or is stuck at 10% for an hour, then it's a good idea to completely drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery since the OS has no idea how much battery is left (so it knows where 0 is again). This will usually happen after flashing a different ROM. Charge it up to 100 again and it should be back to normal.
I personally charge it normally at night, without quick charge, since there's no point in having it quick charge while I'm a sleep for around 8 hours. I'll only quick charge it in the middle of the day, which is almost never, since the battery is freakin' awesome.
Don't worry about the battery too much, but don't reach 0% too often, and you'll be good. By too often, I mean every 3-4 months or so is OK. I base these things from my Sony device which I've had for almost 3 years. The (sealed in) battery was very good out-of-the-box, and it's still very good after nearly three years, so I won't mess with a proven success.
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I reach 5% max, is it a problem for the battery's life?

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I reach 5% max, is it a problem for the battery's life?
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Not at all, but just try to not discharge the battery completely to the point where it turns itself off. It won't ruin the battery to the point where you actually notice it there, but it's better if you just turn the phone off if you're able to (unless it's an emergency, of course).

J.Biden said:
Not at all, but just try to not discharge the battery completely to the point where it turns itself off. It won't ruin the battery to the point where you actually notice it there, but it's better if you just turn the phone off if you're able to (unless it's an emergency, of course).
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I never discharge the battery completely, like I said I use until battery is max at 5% [emoji3]
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I charge it when it hits 20%. But i dont use the fast charging unless i need a quick top up

Does it hurt the battery to charge the phone with a different charger ?
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I never used the fast charging, I think that slowly charging a battery is better for the lifetime. Most of the time it is below 10 % before I plug it in and I also want it to be at 100% and ready (green LED) when I unplug it.
my note 3 battery is still superb and I got the phone since 2013

Best way to keep a battery in good health is to charge it to full before you start using it. Also, try and never charge it until it's less than 50%. Charging it overnight is perfectly fine it won't hurt anything but once ina while, at least say once a month let the battery drain all the way, try to turn it back on if it goes off sometimes there is still some juice left and it might start up, once it won't start anymore try and charge it without turning it on to full. I wouldn't do it more than say a couple times a month any more than that is overkill and may do more harm than good. These are the guidelines I use and I have never had battery issues. I currently am waiting for my S7 Edge and on my Nexus 6 I usually get 48+ hours with 4+ hours SoT. I'm just an average user currently.