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Replace windows mobile 6 with another OS?

hi guys.
i have a tytn II PDA.
i'm using it since 2-3 months and at the end i can says it is not comfortable at all.
microsoft has to work in the worse way it is possible every time.
not complete as a pda, totally uncomfortable as a telephone.
can u tell me if there are some roma or OS to replace the windows mobile 6 pre-installed?
i knew apple OS where the best one, is there something i can do in order to have a better pda instead of this microsoft trash one?
thank you.

Google Android?
http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/nieuws/6265/fromfeed

thanks 4 the reply.
the site u linked is in duthc and i cannot understand some things.
looking around it seems android is still under development.
could you tell me something more?
tnx

No Other "fully functional" OS exists for the device.
just out of curiosity how long have you been using the device?
first month or so of using windows mobile is always tedious... but when you get used to it.. you wont want to go back (I got a nokia N95 and regretted it)

rosebud said:
No Other "fully functional" OS exists for the device.
just out of curiosity how long have you been using the device?
first month or so of using windows mobile is always tedious... but when you get used to it.. you wont want to go back (I got a nokia N95 and regretted it)
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hi there.
i'm using the pda since 3 months.
by now i've quite stopped customizing it or "playing" with since i find win mobile set up quite messy.
i came from nokia smartphone series and found symbyan the best os for mobility ever.
fully customizable, fast, stable and above all build with "few clicks" philosopy.
with official win 6 rom, in order to reach a sub menu i have to dig into folders and tabs getting annoyed really fast.
start menu is almost not customizable, i cannot move links where i like, well they could have done a far better work insetad of that.
maybe changin rom passing to an unofficial one could give me some more satisfaction, but i'm not sure since the starting point is the same.
i hope i could explain myself at an understandable basic level ^^
sorry for my horrible english
bb.

Oh,now I get it. Phone people keep moaning about how Windows doesnt behave like symbian. Duuuh! Let go of your complete reliance on the d-pad(its a Symbian thing),you have a touch screen now,use it.

Vukile said:
Oh,now I get it. Phone people keep moaning about how Windows doesnt behave like symbian. Duuuh! Let go of your complete reliance on the d-pad(its a Symbian thing),you have a touch screen now,use it.
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lol thanks for the hint about the touch screen
i can believe you can tell me that even USING the touch screen, finding menus and doing other stuffs is easy and intuitive!
there are lots of things could have been projected better as iphone did, for example

WM6 in trouble ?
he, he, interesting post. I also spent a lot of time trying to simplify my phone interface. There are many great programs and tips on that forum. However, the first time I had an iPhone in my hands, I admitted its interface is 8 levels ahead of M$. Now, what we need is a fully customizable, fast and stable OS. Might be Android since HTC signed the partnership. Let's see. Anyway M$ got to react quickly otherwise they might be out of the game soon.

Flip78 said:
he, he, interesting post. I also spent a lot of time trying to simplify my phone interface. There are many great programs and tips on that forum. However, the first time I had an iPhone in my hands, I admitted its interface is 8 levels ahead of M$. Now, what we need is a fully customizable, fast and stable OS. Might be Android since HTC signed the partnership. Let's see. Anyway M$ got to react quickly otherwise they might be out of the game soon.
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i do hope!
happy to find a m8 in the fight!
between a fight and another, could u suggest me some link to find some customization suggestion pls?im almost desperate.

Hi, I do agree some things need to be "fixed" in windows mobile... and I have every Faith in the long run MS will do so.. not arguing with anyone here.. just my personal view.. when you get to grips with WM its not too bad.. third party apps do help tho! lol

rosebud said:
Hi, I do agree some things need to be "fixed" in windows mobile... and I have every Faith in the long run MS will do so.. not arguing with anyone here.. just my personal view.. when you get to grips with WM its not too bad.. third party apps do help tho! lol
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i was just joking ^^
i just hate M$, not guys who use it -like me -
anyway, any hint to improve wm6?

i totally agree with you...
windows mobile is very complicated becuase it has all these extras that the average cell phone user will never even bother using....word, excel, ppt, etc. while business users thrive on these features.....
i am an average cell phone user but the only reason why i got the 8525 is because of the large qwerty keyboard so i can text a lot, but i wish the interface was as simple as a normal phone, maybe google android will fix this problem in the future =)

extra features do not make something complicated. complicated to you maybe. Very simple and easy in my opinion, besides, its near identical in operation and style to desktop windows, which everyone, even mac users are familiar with.
buying a hermes for just quick sms is like buying a a ferrari to get to the shops... should have bought a sidekick.

"because of the large qwerty keyboard so i can text a lot"
tests show that young fanatics could sms alot! faster then a good typist on a normal sized keyboard could type
they only one who could beat the young sms fanatics was freaky enthusiast old school telegraphs people
if a full keyboard was all the requirements then a nokia comunicator would prob be closer to fitting the need of a normal gsm user who just wanted a keyboard

lyllo said:
i was just joking ^^
i just hate M$, not guys who use it -like me -
anyway, any hint to improve wm6?
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http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/

lyllo said:
i do hope!
happy to find a m8 in the fight!
between a fight and another, could u suggest me some link to find some customization suggestion pls?im almost desperate.
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Check out HTC home. you can add 8 programs to the quick launcher.
Or since you seem to be such a fan of the iPhone, why not install the iPhone interface for hermes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302739&highlight=iphone
or you can even look into the HTC touch interface.
I think thatif you look at thoes, they will help with your situaltion.
BTW, you should look in the TyTn/Kaiser forums for specific infomation to your phone. this one is for the older TyTn(8525).

Mate, go ahead and install Mobile 6! It is a lot better than the old WM5. Make sure you get a "cooked" version from this site, one with a built in HTC cube, HTC plugin etc. You will not fail to be impressed. Did I mention that you can use a 8 meg micro card for extra storage? Try doing that with an I-Phone!

try this UI from tomorrow
try this thread
Original new site (with youtube videos)
http://www.windows-now.com/blogs/rob...ws-mobile.aspx
PointUI website
http://www.pointui.com/

tora201 said:
Did I mention that you can use a 8 meg micro card for extra storage? Try doing that with an I-Phone!
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Doesnt the iphone have 16 gigs

He meant 8 gigs of sdhc ram and if you factor in that you can have as many as you can afford then your software and music and video options are very near limitless
The Reaper

I'm never getting a WinsMo or Xperia ever..

Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!

There's alot more to WM than meets the eye you know. The Xperia is hyped with the Panels in mind but it's certainly not the only feature there's alot more that can be done.
I, myself have removed the panels completely, I don't like them and never used them. I currently use the Panels button to open my comm manager so I can change what's on and what's not.
Have you installed any other software for you phone at all? Just a few interfaces to mention for instance:
TouchFlo
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Mobile Shell
Im sure there's more. The bottom two offer a heck of alot of customization for the "look" of your phone. Skins/Icons. You could have it looking like an iPhone if you wanted, or there abouts.
On top of that there's more programs that you can install than you can shake a stick at. It's much like a PC, the amount of things you can do with it is amazing.
I'll agree there are problems with the device, but the problem with the majority is they always look on the negatives and not the positives. Sometimes the phone is a bit hard to use and after showing a few friends of mine the phone, they have really liked it but I have had to put them off the phone because they without being rude don't have the knowledge to use the phone and be happy with it to it's fullest.
Windows Mobile really is what you make it, some like it, some hate it. It's not the greatest of operating systems for phones and it's probably one of the most hardest to use and learn, but the options you have are well worth the effort.

colourblind said:
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?

Nippero said:
Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?
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what's so wrong of posting it here? i think he has the rights to express his feelings.
mate, i hated windows mobile before! yes i did, even though i'm a microsoft "fan" but when i used my X1, i started customizing it in a way that really fits my needs, and now i'm using my phone as a computer which is always in my pocket!
you can find alot of cool stuff in the forum, customize your phone and play arround with it, change all default values (be careful not to change something that will make you hard reset, and always backup). Customize the phone, windows is the most flexible and customizable OS ever (sorry Linux fans).
let me know if you need any help

The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
That means the support level for our HTC-made Xperia X1's is going down the tubes. HTC is the one most likely responsible for firmware upgrades to their hardware, so now that SE and HTC no longer co-operate/partner I highly doubt HTC will be making any firmware updates for our phone.
Consider this... the HTC Touch HD has been released after the X1, yet has already receive one or two firmware updates by HTC to fix various issues. The X1 has received ZERO updates.
SE has basically decided to give up on the Xperia X1 from what we can see, since they moved to a new manufacturer.
Of course, this doesn't mean the great developers at XDA will not be coming out with home brew firmwares and fixes, but it does mean that official support from SE is probably going to be winding down and dying...
why else would a simple fix to the bluetooth problem (which MANY people here have found) is not being pushed out? Because SE doesn't want to pay HTC to release the firmware fix since they no longer co-operate.
Oh well. I hope to be proven wrong, but the fact HTC is pushing out firmware updates for all their devices but NOT the Xperia X1 (despite being released longer) confirms this.

colourblind said:
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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U said it "seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!".
R U using it so you knew it is much more better ?

go buy a nokia s40 phone and then use your x1 again. let me know what you like more and would rather use.

I allways look at this that my new X1 is as a toy for Big boy.
Its all abaut somthing changing experimenting tweaking.
I like this .
or just buy nokia 6110 make call, recive call and sleep well in the nights.

I was always under the impression that this was a dsicussion forum for the understanding and development of a set of phones.
Unfortunately lately it's become an area for people with no understanding to moan.

johnchan78 said:
The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
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Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?

johnchan78 said:
The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
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What a load of crap.
All we know is that HTC won't be building the X2 (or whatever they end up calling it) together. We don't even know what OS is going to run on it.
However it's SE responsibilty for the software, they are working on a new firmware, whether those on branded phone will see it depends on their networks (unless you do a DIY job).
And if SE do need help from HTC with some hardware issues, HTC will need to provided it, they will be under contract and most likely will want to build future models (X3).

HTC is not going to produce "next" Sony Ericsson phone.
HTC still produces XPERIA for Sony Ericcson.

kuraudo said:
Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?
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no-one said that,
SE aren't using HTC to develop future phone, it looks like they're using asus instead.. although it could also be that the x2 is android based :0

so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?

hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .

colourblind said:
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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dude, my xperia only turns off if i have to restart due to some registry tweak, since the R3A update, i never experienced a hang
you could have posted me your previous xperia, only if i had the money to burn i would buy another
x1, there is none that can come close

johnchan78 said:
...The X1 has received ZERO updates.
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What's so funny is that you make this statement on the XDA website. What world are you in???

colourblind said:
so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?
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Yes and I find it pathetic. Good thing people are working on a WinMo port for it.
colourblind said:
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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Lies.....

I have seen what the new Palm Pre can do...it's a good interface but basically that's all it has good interface.
And yes I am impressed but I told myself, I will never buy a Palm because it looks like it has shifted from pda function to a P.O.S. kid's toy ... a competitor to the iphone.
I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
Also...I really really want the Omnia HD...it's multimedia and out of the box experience is great, but AGAIN, symbian add-on software isn't as good. So if I were to buy a Samsung Omnia HD, I would buy it as a PMP, and I would buy a Toshiba TG01 as a Pocket PC.
But for now, Xperia has some qualities of Omnia HD and some qualities of other good and fast windows mobile phones like Toshiba TG01. Obviously Omnia HD doesn't have windows mobile, which I prefer over symbian (I've used symbian S60 first before switch to Windows Mobile), and it's also obvious that Toshiba TG01 doesn't have headphone jack and keyboard like the Xperia. So Xperia is the sort of the best of both worlds for now.
If I had cash I'd buy Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD seperate...but if only XDA developed for the Toshiva TG01....
If there was a super godlike overkill hybrid phone that was both the Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD...I would buy that hybrid instead...

poetryrocksalot said:
I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
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I think we should sticky that comment to the front page. IN BIG LETTERS.

WM 7 for X2

hello guys,
i support all of the ppl who posted that X2 dev from SE is very poor and not followed right, no customer service like it should be, alot of complaints about slow performance and other S**T, i agree 100% this is a true fact, i deleted every single apps and left basics and still slow, sometimes freezes, need to take of D**N battery to restart..blabla memory card issue..blabla WE HAD ENOUGH.
sorry for the long introduction.
i don't know if XDA Dev ppl have done this.. am new here.
i googled WM 7 for SE Xperia X2..i found alot of articles and forums saying the X2 doesn't have required hardware. i mean COME ON!
is it possible?i believe it is for XDA, remove the non-sense apps and all the additional S**T ..would it be possible?
thank you

The Xperia X2 does not meet the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7, nor does it have the requisite hardware buttons. Windows Phone 7 is unlikely to run on the X2 or any other phone with similar specs.
SE has pledged to several updates, so there definitely will be another ROM update or two coming down the pipe...whether or not they will fix your issues remains to be seen.
In general, please do more research before posting questions like this that have been answered before. Use the darn search button!

chambo622 said:
The Xperia X2 does not meet the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7, nor does it have the requisite hardware buttons. Windows Phone 7 is unlikely to run on the X2 or any other phone with similar specs.
SE has pledged to several updates, so there definitely will be another ROM update or two coming down the pipe...whether or not they will fix your issues remains to be seen.
In general, please do more research before posting questions like this that have been answered before. Use the darn search button!
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SE pledged 2 updates MR1 and MR2, both of which have been released, and have fixed a few issues. I have a useable X2 now which is good, the only annoying fault its the LED notifications. I don't think however anymore updates are due

SE will not release more roms to X2.
Android it's the first priority to E now........just see X10 updates.
If Hard-SPL not releases, X2 has no future.

X2 has really dated processor, its screen does not support multi-touch and come on. SE is unable to make WM6.5 work on X2 properly, how could they do this for WM7 I can't imagine.

I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....

timekille said:
I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....
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perhaps, where do you come from??
I´m from gemany near by cologne.
Everything is in original packaging with accessories available?
I want to try the X2.

timekille said:
I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....
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A friend of mine has E72 and says it beats all touchscreen crap out there
150 eur is a good price for a phone for playing and testing. And praying for custom ROM development. But I doubt it will be ever available. Too bad.

Upgrade from xperia x1 to x10

would this be a good, upgrading to x10 idea or should I stick to my x1?
My x1 works still good, but I like to change from time to time
And if I would choose for the vivaz would this be a step back or not?
Regards,
Francis.

efgee said:
would this be a good idea or should I stick to my x1?
My x1 works still good, but I like to change from time to time
And if I would choose for the vivaz would this be a step back or not?
Regards,
Francis.
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i think you meant upgrade lol. I think if your phone still works fine you should stick to your X1, but if not..well it's your choice

i had an x1, and it still works. i had an lg expo inbetween my x1 and x10 b/c i wasn't sure i wanted to switch to android yet. i loved WM, but now i'm quite happy with my x10 very fast and beautiful screen. i still think WM is more versatile. but android is quickly catching up ... i'd keep a hold of your x1 i still play around with mine but the x10 is the bee's knees!

junkk29 said:
i think you meant upgrade lol. I think if your phone still works fine you should stick to your X1, but if not..well it's your choice
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Yep, I mean upgrade, as mentioned in my title
I have my X1 for about 2 years now. As said, I like to change from time to time.
I don't always wait until something is broken to change it.
But if I change it has to be for something "better".
Right now I'm looking at the Vivaz and the X10.

Vivaz and X10? X10 ftw! i know that Vivaz can record HD vids but that feature's also coming the X10 when we get the 2.1 update. I think Symbian is dying soon...so better stick with Google's android but, it's my opinion anyways. Good luck with your choice!

wolf0491 said:
I had a x1 my hardware keys broke after a while because I text so much. I upgraded to x10 and won't have that issue again lol. It was a fantastic switch defiantly love this phone more than x1 not that it wasn't a great phone also.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
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Do you miss the keyboard when typing? Or is it just something to get used to?

i was a dedicated x1 user until just last month until i switched to an x10. the only things i miss from the x1 is:
#1 keyboard & arcslider
#2 custom roms
#3 Starcraft & Warcraft ported games
#4 Optical joystick (makes scrolling webpages a breeze)
#5 Garmin (but CoPilot for Android works almost as well)
#6 the extra bluetooth profiles supported by windows (pbap, rsap, dun, bluetooth pan, etc.)
but there are probably more than 100 advantages the x10 has over the x1. once you get used to the x10 and the OS, you'll like the x10 a lot better..

X10 is my upgrade from the X1! I'm still gonna keep my X1 as a spare telephone. The X10 is everything I expected, but I needed to get used to android. But nowadays you can also flash an android rom on your X1 to see what android is all about!
Yess, I'm happy with my X10!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

X1 is a great phone/pda. I loved mine and still have it as a backup. But going to X10 is like a leap into the future compared to the X1.

I am using X10 now, transfering from X1. Im happy with the transfer, in particular, after getting the firmware update of X10. Believe that you wont regret to have an X10, though it may take you some time to get familiar with it.
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Whoa there are android roms now or x1? Im gonna check it out. Thanks for the news.

Can I play radio on the X10? Hardware is not added to it, but maybe there is another way? Regards, Francis.

Found the answer in the forum.
A hardware option from se is available.
Francis.

There are a number of radio apps in the market, I use the UK LBC app from the market and can tune to many stations in the uk.
I suppose it may depend where you are located in the world which stations you will get. Oh and you need a data plan because they are net\data stations.

I changed my x1 for my x10 is a weird change at least for me
miss all the apps I installed on the x1 and the weather apps mainly cause they didn't connect by themselves like on the x10
but now you get use to androidit seems to be a good OS but to be honest I miss winmo xD

[Q] Antivirus or not=?

My first topic here First sorry bout my bad english..
I have a x2 which I'm really pleased for. Otherwise many others I have not had any errors that have been annoying to me, only few small bugs. and it is very stable, it has run over a week without rebooting and is still stable and fast.. This is on 6.5.2 - mr2.. Have not had it so long and updated it two days after I took it out of the box with mr2.
But now to my question: because I love my x2 I'm in doubt about the need to install a antivirus app??
I installed a demo of mobile security but a license for 24 months costing 60euro which I find expensive, but clearly worth it, instead of suddenly being left with a useless device..
would like to hear peoples opinions on it are worth it and experience with other antivirus programs for x2 windows mobile 6.5
Many thanks and greetings from Denmark.
dolle82

Look up "Lookout Antivirus" on the internet. This is a free security software for all types of mobile devices.
Hope this helps!

dolle82 said:
My first topic here First sorry bout my bad english..
I have a x2 which I'm really pleased for. Otherwise many others I have not had any errors that have been annoying to me, only few small bugs. and it is very stable, it has run over a week without rebooting and is still stable and fast.. This is on 6.5.2 - mr2.. Have not had it so long and updated it two days after I took it out of the box with mr2.
But now to my question: because I love my x2 I'm in doubt about the need to install a antivirus app??
I installed a demo of mobile security but a license for 24 months costing 60euro which I find expensive, but clearly worth it, instead of suddenly being left with a useless device..
would like to hear peoples opinions on it are worth it and experience with other antivirus programs for x2 windows mobile 6.5
Many thanks and greetings from Denmark.
dolle82
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I think you can get various kinds of free antivirus on http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/utilities_security.shtml

Thank.. Are there others who have something to share?

X2 is deffinetly not worth to spend 60€ on an antyvirus software for it. you would do better to sell X2 and combinethe money you get for it and the 60€ and get yourself a good phone.

Uh did you read my føste post because I am very happy with my x2..
And before I bought my x2, I had a HTC Desire which I gave to my brother for Christmas
because I have not used it after I got my x2..
I like best the Win mobile 6.5.x os and think x2 has an ingenious design and a great qwerty keypad. and so is size just right, not too large nor too small ..
Then come again for your first post, I can not really use for anything