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what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
TheArtiszan said:
what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
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The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204 Link to the Cyanogen 4.01
tazz9690 said:
The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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wow dude you have been a lot of help, I feel a lot more about rooting now (wow you flash almost everyday haha awesome). I think I'm gonna try it tonight haha.
So I wont need to restore to the original shipped state if I ever need to do a warranty claim?
oh yeah so should I flash cyanogen 3.9.X.X or 4.0.1 ( I know 3.9.X.X has some donunt features but its experimental...but is it better?)
so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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really is there a main/any difference between the 2?
i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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So it looks like sense ui from the hero? I heard all those roms are slow due to the ram limitation on the mytouch (192mb) vs the hero (288mb)
btw I have a class 2 card too as of right now so that is good to know
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
mykenyc said:
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
you can always use the old method just follow the instructions step by step don't feel discourage ... but you must and i repeat follow each step ... one... by ..one
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
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Ah thanks for the info. I think i'll flash with cyanogen's rom since I currently don't have another micro sd card to do the old method
Hey guys,
Just modded my HTC Dream with CM6, and it seems pretty cool.
I read somewhere that you should partition the SD card? Something about ext2 to ext3? Can anyone comment on that?
Also, read that you need to be careful installing themes because it could brick the phone? Does that mean full themes, not just wallpapers?
Anything else I should be cautious of?
Thank you in advance
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Hey guys,
Just modded my HTC Dream with CM6, and it seems pretty cool.
I read somewhere that you should partition the SD card? Something about ext2 to ext3? Can anyone comment on that?
Also, read that you need to be careful installing themes because it could brick the phone? Does that mean full themes, not just wallpapers?
Anything else I should be cautious of?
Thank you in advance
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ext2 is optimal for this application. ext3 will just wear out your card faster. You don't necessarily need an ext partition on the card though -- only if you want to install applications to the sdcard without using that horrible froyo2sd nonsense that google added.
Themes won't brick the phone unless they overwrite things that they most definitely have NO REASON to be overwriting. Having said that, EVERY theme is horribly ugly compared to how it looks without messing with it. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE!
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ext2 is optimal for this application. ext3 will just wear out your card faster. You don't necessarily need an ext partition on the card though -- only if you want to install applications to the sdcard without using that horrible froyo2sd nonsense that google added.
Themes won't brick the phone unless they overwrite things that they most definitely have NO REASON to be overwriting. Having said that, EVERY theme is horribly ugly compared to how it looks without messing with it. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE!
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Thanks for the reply!
I'm having a problem with Google Navigation. Seems that when I turn it on, it just freezes at the "searching for GPS" screen.
I also have a problem with Goggles (downloaded it from Market). It starts up, goes through the tutorial, and then when I advance to start it, it just hangs.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
damien8 said:
Thanks for the reply!
I'm having a problem with Google Navigation. Seems that when I turn it on, it just freezes at the "searching for GPS" screen.
I also have a problem with Goggles (downloaded it from Market). It starts up, goes through the tutorial, and then when I advance to start it, it just hangs.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
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Don't forget that you're playing with CM. Not exactly a stable setup.
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Don't forget that you're playing with CM. Not exactly a stable setup.
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Does anyone have Navigation running smoothly on a G1/Dream?
"Cyanogen 6 on HTC Dream - Things to avoid?"
Cyanogen 6 on HTC Dream
jubeh said:
"Cyanogen 6 on HTC Dream - Things to avoid?"
Cyanogen 6 on HTC Dream
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I was about to say 'turning it on', but I like yours too.
May I ask, why this is your opinion? I use CM6 on my Dream.
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May I ask, why this is your opinion? I use CM6 on my Dream.
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Because it is a memory hog, unstable, and slow. They're trying to please everyone with ever nonsense request, and it really has bloated into a monster. The tmobile magic 32b froyo image (as converted for DREAM) is an excellent 2.2 build, extremely fast and stable. Just tweak to suit.
Hi,
I'm sorry I am brand new to all of this, just yesterday I rooted my g1 (first time) and installed CM6. I like it but it is running a bit slow and I am having a few issues with 3g.
If CM6 isnt all that great, could you link me to a good rom/setup please (preferably with installation instructions)? I was trying to find what is good at this point but for 2 hours now can not figure out which rom to get at this date. Is zx donut v3.0 a good candidate? Its been popping up a lot
p.s. I am getting a g2 in 2 weeks and passing this phone to a friend, wanna give him the best setup possible,
Thanks for your time
Edit -just installed Super F 1.0 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799693, seems to be a lot faster than CM6, op might wanna give it a shot It is definitely not as good looking as CM, also few of CM features that were nice are missing, but it seems to run much better so far!
But if you guys can suggest something better (doesn't have to be froyo) I'd appreciate it
I appreciate your answer. Well, to be honest I am not 100% satisfied with how CM6 runs on my G1/dream. I thought I configured it wrong. I agree with the poster iokke, I'd like to know which setup still runs smooth on the dream. I need a usable and reliable phone. Sure. the features of CM6 are really nice but what price to pay for it?
to the op:
try this rom, it was updatied in October of this year, just installed it, but so far is running fine on my phone, and its froyo + has themes (you can find them from the installation page link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745478
A cool thing about these ROM (given that I am a noob) - my g1 seems to be running on the H network now without me having to do anything
Another mod worth looking at, that I have not tried so far, also updated last month is the Sparksmod 1.4, you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753893
Not sure which one of the two is faster, though I read somewhere that the Sparksmod is the faster one. This is also froyo, but havent tried this one yet
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to the op:
try this rom, it was updatied in October of this year, just installed it, but so far is running fine on my phone, and its froyo + has themes (you can find them from the installation page link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745478
A cool thing about these ROM (given that I am a noob) - my g1 seems to be running on the H network now without me having to do anything
Another mod worth looking at, that I have not tried so far, also updated last month is the Sparksmod 1.4, you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753893
Not sure which one of the two is faster, though I read somewhere that the Sparksmod is the faster one. This is also froyo, but havent tried this one yet
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The H icon is a cosmetic tweak, that was put into CM6 or 6.1 onwards, your phone has been accessing the same speeds before, it just wasn't doing the icon change when it went to the higher speeds.
I have always had trouble and lagginess with 2.2 on my G1, even after a full system wipe, so I'm rockin 5.0.8 at the moment, and it flies. I just miss custom LED notifications, though I have yet to try the official TMO 2.2.
If you make nandroid backups from recovery, you should have no fear if you want to mess around with different roms or flashing themes .
Thanks, time to go read nandroid backup for noobs))
One question, with Danger SPL installed for Froyo ROMs, can I go back to donut ROMs and simply flash them, or should I remove it somehow??
iokke said:
Thanks, time to go read nandroid backup for noobs))
One question, with Danger SPL installed for Froyo ROMs, can I go back to donut ROMs and simply flash them, or should I remove it somehow??
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I'm pretty sure you won't have to change the SPL anymore except for very special roms. Just make sure you do a full wipe from recovery after a backup, for new roms to ensure that there aren't any lingering problems.
I have been really enjoying EZTerrys new kernel with biffmod. fast. seems to be stable. LOTS of features (Overclock added =]). i was restarting my phone 3 times a day on CM6 and now once in the morning is ok for the whole day. also, when i used super F, the camera didnt work.
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I'm pretty sure you won't have to change the SPL anymore except for very special roms. Just make sure you do a full wipe from recovery after a backup, for new roms to ensure that there aren't any lingering problems.
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Ty, I'm flashing Froyo 2.2.1 for T-Mobile G1 " Froyo for Trout right now to see how it goes, but I will also try the EZ Terry
switched from my bb8900 that finally crapped out on me today. so being as this is my first android phone...what do you guys suggest i do first with it?
best apps to download?
probably not going to root. guess i can be considered a n00b. im good with computers but not programming good. ive read a lot but i dont want to brick my first android. maybe if i get a new one later on down the road i can practice on an old one.
best suggestions for increasing battery life?
games? etc etc.
also i have a question about gps. i downgraded to the 200mb plan through tmobile. i wasnt using nearly enough to keep unlimited. the majority of my use i can use wifi or randomly i'll use the gps when im driving. i know you use data when using gps but how much is it? i have a friend with a droid thru verizon and he looked up directions with google gps. and while we were driving he completely lost service for probably 30+ minutes going through some moutain heavily forested area. but it kept navigating. is this because google had already mapped out the directions? is it possible to just lookup where you are going and then turn off your service to avoid using lost of data?
sorry for being a noob.
thanks in advance.
kevin
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Hi Big Fancy,
I got on Android back in November of 2008 just after the G1 was released. Even though I'm a geek by profession, I wasn't planning on rooting my phone. That changed pretty quickly thereafter.
I was given a free CliqXT at the beginning of 2010 and I didn't root that (I haven't looked, but I'm not even sure if anyone even tried to gain root access on that device). I was hanging on and drooling over the Desire HD and then the HTC Glacier (myTouch 4G) hit the market - it was a no brainer.
I didn't plan on rooting this device either, as I didn't want to "break" my new, pristine baby. Philosophically speaking, one should have root access, but I'm also conservative enough to know when I don't need to play with fire.
What I'm getting at is, once I saw how easy it was to do...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
...it just became another no brainer.
Ok, so most of the apps I would recommend, are going to require root access.
Titanium Backup for Root Users - This is a must have. Whether it's for restoring data or reverting back to a previous version of an app, this is one of those apps I think is a must-have. It's also the first app I purchased and I've been on Android since 2008. I've been quite happy with the free apps on the market, but I loved this app and had to support the dev.
ClockworkMod Recovery - This is also a must have. Essentially, this is like imaging a hard drive or cloning your system. In a way, this trumps Titanium, since you can backup your entire "image." If something breaks though or if there's an issue with the ROM itself, then Titanium is your lifesaver.
AdFree - This just updates your hosts file and nullifies, if you will, any known 'ad' IPs/host names. Basically, you don't see ads in ad-driven apps like Angry Birds or Watchdog Lite.
Watchdog Lite - You really want to avoid task killer apps, to a degree. The developer of Watchdog has a succinct explanation of it on his site - http://www.zomut.com/watchdog/froyo.
SetCPU - Sure, you can overclock your CPU with this, but you can also create nice profiles which will pull the CPU back a bit and help conserve battery life.
LogMeIn Ignition - Those who know a little more might just use RDP or VNC. I've been using RDP to remote-in to my home PCs and any Windows Servers I managed since I got on Android. LogMeIn is great though and for those that aren't familiar with port forwarding, et al, LogMeIn is a dead-simple way to access your computer from the road. It's also a secure connection, so that makes it a winner in my book. I use TeamViewer to support my clients and we're upgrading our license at the beginning of 2011, now that TeamViewer for Android is in beta.
Speed Test - It's nice to be able to show off your speeds, but it's also nice to check your speeds wherever you're at. A log is kept, so you can spot trends if you're experiencing speed/bandwidth issues.
Here's a handful more apps/games I find to be useful...
- Adobe Reader
- Adobe Flash
- Amazon Kindle
- Angry Birds + Angry Birds Seasons
- Barcode Scanner
- Bonsai Blast
- Chrome to Phone
- ES File Explorer
- Gmote
- gStrings (chromatic guitar tuner)
- HootSuite
- IMDb
- Movies (by Flixster)
- My Piano
- OI Notepad, OI Shopping List, OI Safe and OI File Manager (particularly Notepad and Shopping List - I use those daily)
- Paper Toss
- Photoshop Express
- Quadrant
- Reversi Free
- Shazam
- Skype
- Torrent-fu
- Uninstaller Pro
- UPS Mobile
- WordPress
- XDA
- Yelp
Welcome, good luck and I hope this helps!
thank u so much for that very in depth info! i really appreciate it!
Well I got it and this thing is so much more bada$$ than I could have hoped for. Just gotta get used to touchscreen typing. Trying swype. Wish me luck!
big fancy said:
Well I got it and this thing is so much more bada$$ than I could have hoped for. Just gotta get used to touchscreen typing. Trying swype. Wish me luck!
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I loved swype but now I've got the gingerbread keyboard app from the market, (by Steven Lin) and it's AMAZING. The auto complete feature is SO MUCH MORE convenient than swyping, especially while driving.
It is a must have for one handed operation and it works fine on the MT4G.
Give it a try, it's on the market.
Just search Gingerbread Keyboard and look for the one by Steven Lin.
You'll love it!
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I loved swype but now I've got the gingerbread keyboard app from the market, (by Steven Lin) and it's AMAZING. The auto complete feature is SO MUCH MORE convenient than swyping, especially while driving.
It is a must have for one handed operation and it works fine on the MT4G.
Give it a try, it's on the market.
Just search Gingerbread Keyboard and look for the one by Steven Lin.
You'll love it!
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I'll give it a shot! Swype is just fantastic, but I'll check it out and see which feels better.
Not sure I want to encourage myself or others to text and drive though.
[[[Ice Glacier beats Rock ~ via XDA App]]]
shlongwoodian said:
I'll give it a shot! Swype is just fantastic, but I'll check it out and see which feels better.
Not sure I want to encourage myself or others to text and drive though.
[[[Ice Glacier beats Rock ~ via XDA App]]]
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Well I wasn't promoting driving and texting either..but if you had too. lol.
shlongwoodian, that was a great write up. I've been on and off with Android ever I got my G1 back in Oct in 08 when my contract was up, and ever since then it was either iOS or Android, and now I'm back with Android after using it for a year in 09 and then this whole year with an iPhone. Missed it, got the G2 first with the contract and then this MT4G, and I'm loving it. Rooted this (I won't use a phone if it's not jailbroken or rooted, just a personal thing, I want to be able to control my phone), and it's been great. I don't think I can go back to a BB or iPhone. Even though I really want to give Windows Phone 7 a shot.
nguyendqh said:
I loved swype but now I've got the gingerbread keyboard app from the market, (by Steven Lin) and it's AMAZING. The auto complete feature is SO MUCH MORE convenient than swyping, especially while driving.
It is a must have for one handed operation and it works fine on the MT4G.
Give it a try, it's on the market.
Just search Gingerbread Keyboard and look for the one by Steven Lin.
You'll love it!
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Thanks for the info. I tried to install the Fabulous Gingerbread. zip posted on Android Spin and it put my phone into a boot loop. Downloaded this and it is just fine. I do like it a lot. I had been a Swype lover but now I am really torn between the two and am leaning toward the GB keyboard.
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Thanks for the info. I tried to install the Fabulous Gingerbread. zip posted on Android Spin and it put my phone into a boot loop. Downloaded this and it is just fine. I do like it a lot. I had been a Swype lover but now I am really torn between the two and am leaning toward the GB keyboard.
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Awesome. Glad you like it. I'm a big fan now too.
Still nice that the option to swype is there, if you switch back. But yeah. =P
So I did it. Finally got tired of the lag with my stock mt4g. Fully rooted with s off and loaded iced glacier. This runs so much better now. No lag. Totally smooth. Faster quadrant benchmarks. Hopefully the battery lasts longer like I've heard from some here on the board.
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Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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they are white when the connection is not ready yet.
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Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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There is no one ROM that fits everyone.
There are advantages (and disadvantages) to each.
My opinions, below...
CM7
Advantages:
Latest Android version (2.3.3)
Closer to a generic Android build
Customizable overclocking built in
Very configurable - many options
Built-in features like power bar, line-item clear for alerts, etc.)
Perceived to be faster than 2.2
Better built-in app information and system information support (But I think this is more OS than a specific ROM).
Disadvantages:
No Sense UI - so you won't have an "HTC" experience"
No FM Radio
No Sense Widgets (e.g., FriendStream, Agenda)
Wonky WiFi (sometimes won't reconnect, can't see hidden networks, etc.)
Liberated FR008
Advantages:
Sense experience
FM Radio
HTC Sense Widgets without need for 3rd party apps
Pretty solid WiFi
Can be overclocked (but with 3rd party app)
Disadvantages:
WiFi sometimes wonky, but not nearly as bad as CM7
Not the latest Android release (only 2.2)
Not nearly as customizable as CM7
In the end, for me the choice has come down to whether or not I like Sense, which I do. I also like the FM radio and sorta solid WiFi. I find Sense and FR008 speedy enough for my uses.
For others, maybe not...
Again, just my two cents...
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ValkyrieLiberty said:
Which rom is the best?
I like cyanogen, but very much so love my Htc Radio(limited data plan so.....), which one do you use and why?...
(currently cm7)
Also, on cm7 sometimes my bars are green, sometimes white, what does that mean? (any where I can get more specific info on gingerbread?)
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I believe the color coding on the signal strength meter / wifi strength meter indicates connection (color based on theme) to google servers or lack of said connection (white).
I am using CM7 (currently nightly 11) due to the increased customization options. I tend to like to tinker with stuff, and this gives me the most options. I'm not particularly a fan of HTC sense, so I don't really miss it. Last time I swapped back to a sense rom, I ended up putting an aftermarket launcher on it to get the homescreen customizations I wanted, so I didn't have the one or 2 sense widgets I liked anyway. After that, I decided CM was the way to go, and have been on 7 since the early nightlies, with the exception of a couple weeks ago for a few days. Also, CM7 has a handy feature called phone goggles, which, had I had the foresight to use it last weekend, might have saved me from having to explain a couple of embarassing texts, sent during a state of significant inebriation, to my wife
Some differences in addition to the ones that DanGeorges listed:
CM7 (as well as CM6):
-Contacts display more information that are stored in Google account contacts (i.e. CM's contacts app display the "Phonetic name" field and customized email field names that you have for your Gmail contacts, whereas HTC Sense's contacts app only displays some basic fields)
HTC Sense (Liberated FR008 or any other Sense roms):
-Has a proprietary "Flash Lite" that lets you play flash video from browsers and the Facebook app directly; while you can also play flash video on CM roms, you have to use the Skyfire browser and can be a hassle sometimes.
CM and Sense email clients are quite different - - - one of the items that keeps pulling me back to Sense.
I thought FR008 was great, but for me it had the same serious fault as all the other previous Android ROMs, no voice dialing over bluetooth.
Since I ride a motorcycle as my primary transportation both for business & pleasure, a bluetooth helmet with voice dial is a must have. That makes CM7 an easy winner for me.
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CM and Sense email clients are quite different - - - one of the items that keeps pulling me back to Sense.
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Yes -
CM7's has the advantage of a unified inbox. But no pinch-to-zoom
Sense has pinch to zoom.
My solution:
install the CM7 email client into Sense and I have both running.
Dan
cHarley04 said:
I thought FR008 was great, but for me it had the same serious fault as all the other previous Android ROMs, no voice dialing over bluetooth.
Since I ride a motorcycle as my primary transportation both for business & pleasure, a bluetooth helmet with voice dial is a must have. That makes CM7 an easy winner for me.
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Gene Poole's "liberated 2.2.2" has the voice dialling in a sense/froyo rom.
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Gene Poole's "liberated 2.2.2" has the voice dialling in a sense/froyo rom.
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Are you sure it's Voice Dialing over Bluetooth? Froyo had voice dialing, but not over bluetooth.
CyanogenMod 7 hands down.
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Are you sure it's Voice Dialing over Bluetooth? Froyo had voice dialing, but not over bluetooth.
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Definitely, used it a bunch yesterday while I was bottle feeding my son (both hands occupied, phone on table, could only get a finger free to hit button on bluetooth headset)
Worked better than anticipated!
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Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.
What exactly is phone goggles?
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What exactly is phone goggles?
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Similar to google's email goggles, when enabled it requires you to do simple tasks (math problems, etc.) Before allowing you to call/text.
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Similar to google's email goggles, when enabled it requires you to do simple tasks (math problems, etc.) Before allowing you to call/text.
Lol, seems pointless. But ok, lol
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Gene Poole said:
Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.
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awesome! looking forward to it!
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Gene Poole said:
Look for a new truly "liberated" version later tonight or tomorrow. It'll have bloatware removed, apn.xml for wifi/usb tethering (without AT$T's surcharge), native sideloading, OC kernel and more. One thing I'm trying my damnedest at right now is disabling that horrible AT$T drop-down over the taskbar.
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Sounds cool!
What are the advantages to this version over Liberated FR008?
And what does the at&t overlay look like? I'm curious...
Thanks for doing this Gene.
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if you are intoxicated, it has a reasonable chance of stopping you from calling/texting someone you shouldn't (like an ex) by:
1) making it difficult for a drunk person to actually accomplish the task and
2) hopefully making you think twice about what you are doing
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Cyanogenmod...because its the rom of the gods.
(And as far as the radio, give it time. I've been running cm since Aug of last year and at this point I have completely forgotten about the fm radio until it gets brought up on here. I loved it for the two weeks I had it, but I quickly got over it by just getting a bigger sd card and putting a few gigs of music on my phone)
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Hi all,
this is my first post here at XDA Developers and I wanted to create this thread to serve as a meeting point and information repository for all HTC Aria (S31HT) users living in Japan and using E-Mobile as their provider.
I just bought a non-Japanese HTC Aria (oops, as it turns out; wrong frequency support as E-Mobile uses symmetric 1700MHz!) and plan to shortly move to the E-Mobile network with one of their Arias, in order to use the tethering capability they provide for tablets such as the iPad2, Xoom and other wifi capable devices.
It was in finding out more about the Aria I already bought that I came to this forum trying to find out how to root my phone. The Aria I bought shipped with Android 2.2 and HBOOT 1.02 which meant I had no luck in rooting it via software methods.
So I have just ordered an XTC Clip device in order to hardware root my Aria (and any subsequent HTC compatible phones I buy).
I will make this service available to other Japanese users of XTC Clip compatible HTC phones, once I have successfully rooted my own phones and am comfortable with the process. In order not to upset the forum mods, if you want to avail yourself of this service (once I'm offering it) please send me an email privately for further instructions.
Once I root my Aria I plan to begin testing CM7 on it and providing useful instructions to other Japan-based Aria users on the best apps, settings and builds to use to have a good experience on the E-Mobile network.
Feel free to chime in and add your own experiences and tips so we can make this a locus for Japanese Aria development and information for everyone to avail themselves of.
I look forward to meeting you all, and thanks for such a fantastic resource XDA Developers!
Cheers from Tokyo,
visceralpsyche
Update 15 May 2011 - My XTC Clip arrived and I successfully rooted the Aria and installed CyanogenMod7 plus an updated radio stack on it. If anyone in Japan wants their HTC smartphone rooted to S-OFF please contact me via PM for more info.
I will update this post as I discover new additions to make the Japanese HTC Aria experience as good as it can be. Feel free to suggest other apps by posting their names and descriptions in this thread.
Recommended Apps (title of app in red)
Japanese keyboard support - OpenWnn plus (free)
English keyboard - SwiftKey (paid)
CPU speed governor (great for prolonging battery life) - SetCPU (paid)
Train timetables (great front end for online database) - Japan Trains (free)
Japanese/English dictionary - JED (free)
QR Code reader - Barcode Scanner (free)
Translation - Google Translate (free)
Earthquake Early Warning - Namazu Alert (free)
Batch command processing (make your phone do anything in any order) - Tasker (paid)
I received my XTC Clip the other day and have successfully rooted my non-Japanese Aria (which had HBOOT 1.02 on it). Transitioning to HBOOT 0.57 via first flashing the original AT&T ROM, I'm now running CyanogenMod7 nightly build 78 on it and have also flashed the radio firmware to the latest 47.63.35.21U_7.16.35.11 from this thread.
Loving the new CyanogenMod7! I'm now in the process of figuring out all the best software and keyboard apps for Japan and the more advanced stuff like CPU clocking etc.
The next thing is to get an E-Mobile version of the HTC Aria, figure out the differences (especially the radio which seems unique to the Japanese market unless anyone knows differently), then do the same procedure.
I could root my aria(E-mobile) with Xtc Clip.
I'm using CM7 now. It's wonderful!!
Yes, CyanogenMod7 is amazing compared to the stock HTC Sense isn't it! Am following the nightlies closely to see how close we are to 7.1. I have a feeling it won't be long....
I could use NTT Docomo SIM with my rooted ARIA(emobile).
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Thread will be stickied for the time being
Thanks for the sticky Orb3000!
Hopefully this can become the goto place for all Japanese HTC Aria owners to discuss rooting their phones and using them to their fullest.
With the latest nightly of CM7 I'm getting awesome battery life (3-4 days!). I was in Yodobashi Camera recently with a friend (showing them the Aria) and helped the E-Mobile staff diagnose a connection problem with the store's wifi hotspot! Used my Aria and the Wifi Analyzer app to figure out the least crowded frequency to use for them.... the guy was amazed and quite curious about CM7 being on the phone!
Cheers,
visceralpsyche
Interesting.. I am also in Japan and been using the Aria. Been dying to root it.
Can you help out (I am in Tokyo area).
Oren The Red said:
Interesting.. I am also in Japan and been using the Aria. Been dying to root it.
Can you help out (I am in Tokyo area).
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The newly released AlphaRevX beta should work on your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122574
Oren,
if the AlphaRevX thing doesn't work for you (or you are not confident in trying it) I'm happy to help. Send me a PM. I'm in Tokyo also.
Cheers,
Paul
Just a quick update - I'm currently testing my old Softbank iPhone Black USIM in my HTC Aria and it appears to work with the "smile.world" APN. I get the proper 3G or H icons depending on my location and my @i.softbank.jp email appears to work fine (IMAP based). Briefly used tethering with my iPad to confirm it works - yes, it does
Will do more comprehensive tests in the next few days and report back again. Going to keep a close eye on the bill to make sure I'm not getting screwed out of my pakehoudai plan from my iPhone.... but from other reports I imagine I'll be fine. Still better safe than sorry!
Cheers,
visceralpsyche
visceralpsyche said:
Just a quick update - I'm currently testing my old Softbank iPhone Black USIM in my HTC Aria and it appears to work with the "smile.world" APN. I get the proper 3G or H icons depending on my location and my @i.softbank.jp email appears to work fine (IMAP based). Briefly used tethering with my iPad to confirm it works - yes, it does
Will do more comprehensive tests in the next few days and report back again. Going to keep a close eye on the bill to make sure I'm not getting screwed out of my pakehoudai plan from my iPhone.... but from other reports I imagine I'll be fine. Still better safe than sorry!
Cheers,
visceralpsyche
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What version Hboot is on the Japanese HTC Aria?
To be clear, I'm currently using a non-Japanese Aria. But I did go and check the Japanese E-Mobile Aria in the store to see what HBOOT version it had. It had HBOOT 1.02 on it and Android 2.2. I also noted its radio version ends in .13 whereas my Aria (from Hong Kong) ends in .11 (probably because the E-Mobile Aria needs to support the 1700MHz band which the Hong Kong version doesn't support).
Anyway, I've attached a photo I took of the E-Mobile Aria bootloader screen in the store, along with two snapshots of my own Aria running with my old iPhone Softbank USIM in it.
So far so good - it shows the SoftBank provider logo on the lock screen, shows both the 3G and HSPDA icons depending on reception area, handles SMS and MMS perfectly with no additional setup and finally, handles the i.softbank.jp address without issue through K-9. Only small issue appears to be lack of PUSH support for that account at the server end, however it DOES pop up the SMS alert like on the iPhone to let you know a message has arrived, so it's not a big deal (and I don't use my i.softbank.jp address for much since I have my own domains). This is all using the smile.world APN which automatically shows up as one of two APN options when the SoftBank USIM is installed (first time you need to select it, after that it remains on it).
For now I may not even need to go to E-Mobile, depending on the next few days' testing to make sure I don't lose my 'pakehoudai' status and that tethering my iPad doesn't cause any wrinkles! That said, I plan to keep this thread for all Aria users in Japan regardless of carrier, so I'll keep posting new info and asking others to add to the info repository when they can!
Cheers,
visceralpsyche
Sorry, I should mention my current build info too for clarity as to what I'm running:
CyanogenMod7 nightly 111
drowningchild kernel 8.7 BFS (using smartass2 with 806/245Mhz)
Radio firmware update 7.16.35.11
+ Google apps package
Cheers,
visceralpsyche
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Oren,
if the AlphaRevX thing doesn't work for you (or you are not confident in trying it) I'm happy to help. Send me a PM. I'm in Tokyo also.
Cheers,
Paul
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Paul,
Thanks for the lead on AlphaRevX. It was only today that I finally had the time to meddle with it and it looks like a success to me:
1. Used AlphaRevX on my EMOBILE Japanese HTC Aria to get the S-OFF
2. Used Revoked tool to flash the custom recovery.
I am now free! Rooted.
Now, comes the question which ROM to install. I guess I should be careful here with the radio versions, right?
Any recommendations or should I just go with the CM7?
Thanks.
Oren
My pick would be what I'm running in my sig - the latest CM7 nightly for the Aria along with drowningchild's latest kernel.
One thing to note is that the radio firmware I'm using is for my Hong Kong Aria, which has different radio bands to the E-Mobile Aria (I'm missing symmetric 1700MHz). So I'd stick with the radio firmware that your handset shipped with for now.
Hope this helps!
Cheers
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My pick would be what I'm running in my sig - the latest CM7 nightly for the Aria along with drowningchild's latest kernel.
One thing to note is that the radio firmware I'm using is for my Hong Kong Aria, which has different radio bands to the E-Mobile Aria (I'm missing symmetric 1700MHz). So I'd stick with the radio firmware that your handset shipped with for now.
Hope this helps!
Cheers
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Thanks mate!
Last q. Do you know if there is a package or where I can find the emobile APNs? I seems to find only 2 on the net, but I remember that I had like 5-6 APNs on the emobile STOCK.
I have the stock backup, maybe I can extract the APNs from there?
Cheers,
Oren
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I have the stock backup, maybe I can extract the APNs from there?
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Yeah, just load up your backup, and write down the APNs listed.
Hi,
I have the emobile APN's. Used APN backup tool to extract the APN in XML format. Will PM you the file when I get home.
Kaz