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I have been offered to buy a HTC Touch, but I am not shure if it's original HTC. Do you know anything if its exists a replica of this phone? I will post here some pictures of this unit. Please tell me if, it's an original HTC, so I can decide to buy it or not. Many thanks ahead!
It may be fake - I can't see external antenna connector above camera.
fake
yes its seems to be fake touch there our many fakes out there from china honkong you have companies that almost make any htc phone a copy of stick to the real thing
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gronostaj said:
It may be fake - I can't see external antenna connector above camera.
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no HTC logo on front or back
made in china
i guess it's fake
It's probably an OEM one.
I believe they are manufactured by HTC themselves but are branded as a Dopod S1, i have one (though mine has got HTC logos on it) and it works exactly the same as a branded HTC touch. It still has touchflo and wifi and everything is exactly the same it is just a fraction of the price They are awesome value in my opinion, i paid $296 AUD for mine.
Not seeing an HTC logo, or the internal antenna attachment both seem fishy to me, same goes for the little big thats beside the CE logo on the body of the phone as my Touch doesn't have that.
Usually the failsafe way to check if its fake or not is to see if you can get the phone into bootloader.
maybe
maybe they just changed the external case (probably it was scratched) with a cheap chinese one?
Red_Baron said:
I have been offered to buy a HTC Touch, but I am not shure if it's original HTC. Do you know anything if its exists a replica of this phone? I will post here some pictures of this unit. Please tell me if, it's an original HTC, so I can decide to buy it or not. Many thanks ahead!
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Call HTC and verify the S/N and IMEI shown in the pictures is genuine.
Ahh one of the China replica's
1st: no antenna connector
2nd: You can see the green color from the PCB beneath the battery
fake! 100% sure!
Thank you all for hellping me solve my doubts! Finally I decided to not to buy this phone. Anyway his price was $200 and was brand new. When I told him that is NOT an ORIGINAL HTC, he didn't wanted to convince me MAny thanks again for helping me!
less than $100 in Shenzhen, China
you can buy this replica on the street.
I must say it is a very good replica, and it works, but it is not the same....
try entering bootloader... impossible... there's not bootloader menu, you can enter a kind of bootloader menu for SD only, pressing volume up and reset at the same time... I think it runs windows CE.
Good you didnot buy it !00% fake even the box is very different from original htc one
Hi. I'm from Moscow, Russia and I've got a problem with my future (i hope) HTC Topaz.
After analyzing our(Russian) market I've came to a conclusion that there are at least 2 types of this device:
1. From Taiwan, certified, with guarantee, with Russian windows mobile - i.e. official one - 497.2$
2. From China, NOT certified, there are NO guarantee, English windows, the only document which comes with this device is a cash-memo and user manual - that's all (as salesman told me). price - 396$
100$ difference is a big money in my case. English Windows is not a problem, 'cause there are lots of info on howto change firmware. as for the guarantee - all the stuff i bought earlier (notebooks, cameras) are working just fine, I've never been at the service center before - so i hope i won't need one in future.
The question is: how to determine that the device I'm going to buy (before actually buying it; I'll have nearly 10-20 min) is a real one and not a fake like e.g. "HTS tauch brilliant2" or "Pear iFone 5g", that inside it's absolutely identical to the certified one, that the hardware is the same and I'll be able to change firmware. One of the problems is i won't be able to insert Sim and make a call, test WiFi and etc, 'cause the phone is probably locked. Is there any way, any program that allows to display a list of hardware inside this PDA on its screen or on the screen of notebook. Or maybe there is a list of serial numbers somewhere and i can compare them to the one i'll see under the battery? Maybe someone has bought it for extremely low price and really satisfied with it?
Any ideas and opinions are appreciated!
Thnx!
Best regards, Rudbur.
$396 is fake diamond 2 - it is easy to figure out - just turn it on and you'll see for yourself. real greyimport diamond 2 costs now $500, but it will has no manufacturer warranty anyway, don't get yourself tricked... if you want warranty - buy legally imported PCT device.
Oh, fellow countryman! Thanks for the answer!
You probably know (price.ru) what stores i mean. So, let's assume this: I'm ordering two different HTCs: one for 400$ and one for 500$. I turn them on (simultaneously), and what should i expect when testing the fake one?
If there's no difference at all - same buttons, same size, same menu and etc (except language: russian and english), should i buy cheapest?
oh, and i heard or read somewhere that china shops offer real topaz for 333$. Or am i wrong?
The Chinese "copies" aren't actually the same at all.
The names are similar/identical, and they try to mimmick the physical appearance of a genuine device, but the software and internals are all different. Usually there a obvious differences like a lower resolution camera, room for dual SIM cards etc.
I've never seen one myself, but I would imagine once you switch it on you'll get default Windows Mobile with no HTC add-ons. I doubt they have gone to the trouble of faking an entire HTC ROM as well - but I might be wrong.
Hi,
I can testify here, as I have been living in China for a while, and buying phones from the grey market for a while too.
a few things to know:
Real fake chinese stuff will not even have HTC written on it. MTC or something like that. The plastic looks cheap, and it wouldn't even have winmo on it. I saw a "Nolia N95" the other day with the Sony Ericsson interface on it!
Then, in china, you got an official one for real cheap, but the brand is Dopodo, and they don't have wifi built-in. It's the real stuff, but for chinese market only.
At last, the grey market stuff, like mine which I paid the equivalent of 400USD has, I believe "fallen from the truck" in HK... So it got the HK Rom in it, ot Taiwanese, not so certain, as it was in CHS, and they use CHT in those regions.
So, briefly, chinese fake will be very, very easy to spot Hope that helps!
Thanks to you all, guys. I hope the shop I'm going to buy from will allow me to test these devices and save few bucks. I emailed them earlier, asking about guarantee, prices and so on, but they haven't answered yet.
kipue, your opinion is especially important, because you lived there, you know what's what. So I'll draw attention to the labels on it, camera, functioning of wifi, windows mobile menus and all.
After actually buying it I'll post a reply here.
Best regards, Rudbur.
hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html
T8585 is the HD2 that I have.
The other could be the test phone, or a other branded phone (T-mobile etc.)
Linuxmaniac said:
hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html
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T8585 - HTC HD2 (not "Touch" any more, also known as Leo).
T8383 - WTF???
In theory it could be cut down version. But apart from Czech republic and Greece no one seems to have that sort of number. Could it be something like HTC made in Greece?
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I am concerned.
I already own a touch diamond greek.The company that alters the software (translation etc) is ace hellas i know.This is not the case in this T8383 model.I was about to buy it but then i thought i would post here the question.It is 50 euros cheaper than the eshops selling the T8585 and also the T8585 is not expected here in nothing less than about 20days.So could this be a test model or something like you mentioned before?
Perhaps when it was know as Touch Pro Three?
Sould i avoid it you think and wait for the T8585 model?
how much does the hd2 costs in Greece? In cyprus is estimated 685 euros!! i think i will be buying mine from Germany in December...
btw both my Polaris and HD where also customized by ACE Hellas and they also seemed to be more expensive than in any of the other shops, I just fell for the salesman trick that only the ones customised by ACE Hellas are under HTC's warranty, which seems to be bull****!
sorry i missed your link on the first post... they are even more expensive in Greece!!! why dont you buy from abroad?
what about expansys??? http://www.expansys.com.gr/d.aspx?i=188868
its an english version of it
About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait
Linuxmaniac said:
About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait
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i don't believe there would be 2 versions of the same phone, unless branded like vodafone or something.... or it could be that the seller did not read his notes very well... i mean 3 can easily be misunderstood to 5!
Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen
No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything
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Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen
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Nope, I've got a T8585, and it's got dots (Well, actually they're lines in a diagonal grid pattern with dots at the places where the lines cross).
But yeah, maybe the T8383 is one of the prototype (Those that said Pro.Three) or pre-retail (The ones without the pouch, MicroSD card, etc.) models, or just a random name for a model that doesn't differ at all.
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No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything
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legally they shouldnt sell you a beta phone and get away with it, so dont worry
*I believe* the difference is only down to the radio frequencies that 3G HSDPA data runs on.
One of them probably does 900/2100, the other maybe 850/2100.
i called the company today (one of the companies that sells the T8383 model).
They said that tha package was the full one,including an sdcard etc.
When i told them about the T8585 being the official one mentioned in the site,they replied that perhaps there is a type error.Could someone made this error and then 2 or 3 sites just copied it wrong?
The description in all these sites selling the T8383 is the same (copy-paste)
So should i just buy it?
I can hardly wait another one for the T8585 sites.
I wll also try to contact htc
how to find that number on the phone?
Linuxmaniac, unless you got a serial number from one of the T8383 models, don't bother contact HTC.
I already have, and they need a serial number in order to verify if the device is real or fake. they didn't answer the most important question - if there's a T8383, or not.
I contacted htc.They replied and said that there is only a T8585 model and i should only buy from original retail suppliers of htc in greece.
The site is not included in this list for Greece.
Also,the site after i called them changed now the model name to T8585 and put up the price 20 euros.
Still its 30 euros less than other shops in Greece and most important for me it is available.
So is this 30 euros just some sort of tariff for the buying from the "original" supplier?
Maybe this was all just a type error?
Some shops could lose clients easily afterall.
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?
froztii said:
how to find that number on the phone?
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Settings----> About phone------> Phone Identity
Linuxmaniac said:
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?
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Why not asking the shop to provide you a serial from one of their devices, before you're actually buying it?...
Hi,
Am planning to buy a N1 (from ebay india) to sink my teeth into Android (not just the app development part).
Just wanted to know if there are several different models of the Nexus one out there? And if so how to identify each.
Also as I'm getting it off ebay wanted to make sure I was not getting a fake. So does anyone know how to identify if it's a fake when I receive it?
TIA
Theres only one model of the Nexus, the Nexus One.
How to tell if its fake... i dunno. Maybe the ebay description :-/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...N1-is-ATT-compatiable?p=13593749#post13593749
Check out the FCC number on the back to be sure whether you're getting the 850/1900/2100 version or the 900/AWS/2100 version.
cymru said:
Theres only one model of the Nexus, the Nexus One.
How to tell if its fake... i dunno. Maybe the ebay description :-/
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This is just stupidly wrong.
cmstlist said:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...N1-is-ATT-compatiable?p=13593749#post13593749
Check out the FCC number on the back to be sure whether you're getting the 850/1900/2100 version or the 900/AWS/2100 version.
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Do this! Make sure you get the right version for you!
(FYI - if you don't care about 850/1900 vs. 900/AWS, you should know that the 850/1900 is no longer available, so ebay prices for it seem to be $100-$200 more than the AWS version [which can still be had as the dev phone from google])
cymru said:
Theres only one model of the Nexus, the Nexus One.
How to tell if its fake... i dunno. Maybe the ebay description :-/
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jeez, dude...understand the question!
And also it'd be good to know if it's the AMOLED or SLCD model. You can tell the difference by the way it looks booting up in a dark room. What I don't know is, are there any differences in the model #s written on the back of the phone for the SLCD models?
Thanks for all the info folks.
But is there any info that I can ask the dealer (from the packaging etc.) to determine if it is a genuine piece.
And any way to confirm its the real deal once I get the phone (while booting or something)?
Just trying to be careful as I can't afford to waste too much (still studying ), and I don't want to get some cheap chinese fake.
TIA
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And any way to confirm its the real deal once I get the phone (while booting or something)?
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If it's a knock off, it's not going to be genuine Android, so it'll be obvious.
Like these: http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=fa...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=855
I'm having a different problem related to identifying the model. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18426549
Hello guys, I have pretty much decided to buy a Nexus One since it's the cheapest Android device with decent hardware. However I have a few questions:
1) When it says 'Unlocked', does that mean it'll work anywhere in the world? I don't live in the USA, also I don't care about Edge/3G as I'll be using Wifi most of the time.
2) Can a device come with a locked firmware (i.e Can't be rooted?), or all devices are rootable?
3) What's the difference between those two below. I prefer to buy directly from Amazon and not resellers. First link says it'll be in stock after 1-2 months, second one is available.
- www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-One-Unlocked-Android--U-S/dp/B00332YPHQ
- www.amazon.com/HTC-Nexus-One-Smartphone-Touchscreen/dp/B0050OV01O
Hi bazzag,
i've bougth my nexus one two weeks ago from amazon.com and, as you, i don't live in the usa.
1)Unlocked means that you can use it with any sim and you are not locked to tmobile, vodafone or similar. I'm using mine in Italy and it works perfectly.
2)No, nexus one are all equal and rootable. (I recommend you to not unlock the bootloader and use the procedure for rooting without unlocking the bootloader posted on the wiki, so you don't lose your warranty ).
3)When i bought mine i had the same doubt I'm not sure but one (HTC Nexus One Unlocked GSM Smartphone with Android OS, 5MP Camera and Touchscreen - No Warranty - Brown
) seems to not have warranty, while the other should have it (Google Nexus One Unlocked Phone with Android--U.S. Warranty).
Hope i helped!
The difference is the second one has no warranty and is used. First one I am not sure whether it is used or new, but you will only be finding new units from third-party sellers (some sellers fulfilled through amazon). I do not believe amazon ever sold these new directly, as they were only available from google and some t-mobile stores.
Most of them are unlocked, but some of the carrier specific models are branded and locked to their networks. It's still possible to root and unlock these, but it might also be worth checking with the seller in an email if this is unlocked&unbranded or a carrier-specific model. There are also 2 versions of the phone, one with 3G on the 850/1900/2100 bands and one with 900/1700/2100. Regardless if you're going to use the data connection or not, if you want to take advantage of the better voice quality 3G brings you can check which bands your carriers of choice use.
The U.S. warranty requires you to send your phone to the states, and you should be aware of some hardware faults-the power button can fail due to a poorly designed connection, and 2 of the phones I and a friend have owned developed symptoms where the phone would go into a rebooting cycle when it got to a certain temperature. I would send an email to the seller you're buying the phone from and asking if the phone is used/refurbished/new and what their return policy is if you get a lemon.
That being said, I'm still using a replacement I got from HTC, and I don't have any idea what phone can replace it in the future. It's definitely one of the best android phones for the price.
Thanks for the replies so far.
Z4buz4, can you tell me which one of the links I posted did you buy? And from which 3rd party reseller? Would really appreciate it.
OJ, you can buy them directly from Amazon (On the right menu, choose Amazon when adding to cart). I doubt that Amazon sells used stuff, so I'm betting it's a new sealed device.
It's good to get more feedback though, shipping it back to the US would cost a fortune, so I need to make sure I'm getting a good one.
I've bougth the first one (the one with us warranty) directly from amazon and of course it was new. Mine is a SLCD one, if you wants to know it
ok all the ones on Amazon are new but they do not have a US warranty on them. Also they are all SLCD they and are for Canada. I bought 4 of them and returned all bc they are all Canada warranty. It is Video Tron in Canada that is what htc America said after i gave them my IEMI #..
Alright, looks like I'll be buying the one without the warranty, since I don't need it anyway. In case it was defective, shipping back to the US would cost me around $70! So yeah I'll be gambling here but I still want to get the phone.
I've got 2 more questions:
- I'll probably get one with SLCD. I know that AMOLED has more vibrant colors, however in reality how much difference are we talking about?
- Which decent and reasonably priced case and screen cover you guys recommend?
Thanks again.
bazzag said:
Alright, looks like I'll be buying the one without the warranty, since I don't need it anyway. In case it was defective, shipping back to the US would cost me around $70! So yeah I'll be gambling here but I still want to get the phone.
I've got 2 more questions:
- I'll probably get one with SLCD. I know that AMOLED has more vibrant colors, however in reality how much difference are we talking about?
- Which decent and reasonably priced case and screen cover you guys recommend?
Thanks again.
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1) My first Nexus was AMOLED which I thought was fine but after I recently purchased a new Nexus with SLCD. I notice the font are much smoother around the edge. I don't really care to much about the dark is darker. I care more about clarity in image and text when websurfing which is why I prefer SLCD.
2) As for case, I went with Seidio Innocase II. I had it the first time around and after I got another Nexus I bought it again. I am not using a screen protector because the case is difficult to slide with just a thin layer of plastic.
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1) 2) As for case, I went with Seidio Innocase II. I had it the first time around and after I got another Nexus I bought it again. I am not using a screen protector because the case is difficult to slide with just a thin layer of plastic.
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Second this. Have had this case on my N1 for over a year. Great protection, with hardly any extra bulk. (And I've never felt the need for a screen protector.)
if you want a brand new 100% go to expansys USA
does the one with the US warranty come with a microsd card?
mine just arrived today and I can't find one in the box
bazzag said:
I've got 2 more questions:
- I'll probably get one with SLCD. I know that AMOLED has more vibrant colors, however in reality how much difference are we talking about?
- Which decent and reasonably priced case and screen cover you guys recommend?
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IHMO amoled and slcd are both very good. If you want to see the differences between them this is probably the best article you can find (htc desire and nexus one use the same screen):
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/
When i bought myne i also bought a screen cover and a silicone case. I've never use it I think that the best case is the one inside the box: it's a nice neopreme case (you can spot it on youtube if you search nexus one unboxing) with an android on it.
The screen is made of glass and it is scratch resistent (look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74).
mysaturdayself said:
does the one with the US warranty come with a microsd card?
mine just arrived today and I can't find one in the box
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It should be in the mobile... Open the cover and see if you can find it
nope.. I thought it should be in the phone too.. but nope
guess have to deal with customer service.. fortunate i bought from Amazon itself. shouldn't be a problem
ps. the slcd is indeed better in text but the amoled is better in color i think. (especially the dark color)
So all the phones off amazon are new?? And has anyone bought the one for 269$?
joshua.justice said:
So all the phones off amazon are new?? And has anyone bought the one for 269$?
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i did and is new. in a sealed box
joshua.justice said:
So all the phones off amazon are new?? And has anyone bought the one for 269$?
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Yes they are new coming with everything. The price went up on those phones used to be $249
I am very interested in replacing my aging HTC Dream as well and have been looking at the nexus one. I'm on the rogers network in Canada though and apparently not all of them work on the rogers 3G network..? I was just curious if anyone knew if either of the two on amazon will work for me, thanks.
Nevermind, I looked into it more and neither of them look to be the AT&T version.
I was doing the same thing now that I need to switch to ATT
I emailed amazon customer service to ask him check the version of their inventory (through the FCC id)
he said he will email me back in 2-3 business days.