HTC Touch probably NOT original - Touch GSM General

I have been offered to buy a HTC Touch, but I am not shure if it's original HTC. Do you know anything if its exists a replica of this phone? I will post here some pictures of this unit. Please tell me if, it's an original HTC, so I can decide to buy it or not. Many thanks ahead!

It may be fake - I can't see external antenna connector above camera.

fake
yes its seems to be fake touch there our many fakes out there from china honkong you have companies that almost make any htc phone a copy of stick to the real thing
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gronostaj said:
It may be fake - I can't see external antenna connector above camera.
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no HTC logo on front or back
made in china
i guess it's fake

It's probably an OEM one.
I believe they are manufactured by HTC themselves but are branded as a Dopod S1, i have one (though mine has got HTC logos on it) and it works exactly the same as a branded HTC touch. It still has touchflo and wifi and everything is exactly the same it is just a fraction of the price They are awesome value in my opinion, i paid $296 AUD for mine.

Not seeing an HTC logo, or the internal antenna attachment both seem fishy to me, same goes for the little big thats beside the CE logo on the body of the phone as my Touch doesn't have that.
Usually the failsafe way to check if its fake or not is to see if you can get the phone into bootloader.

maybe
maybe they just changed the external case (probably it was scratched) with a cheap chinese one?

Red_Baron said:
I have been offered to buy a HTC Touch, but I am not shure if it's original HTC. Do you know anything if its exists a replica of this phone? I will post here some pictures of this unit. Please tell me if, it's an original HTC, so I can decide to buy it or not. Many thanks ahead!
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Call HTC and verify the S/N and IMEI shown in the pictures is genuine.

Ahh one of the China replica's
1st: no antenna connector
2nd: You can see the green color from the PCB beneath the battery
fake! 100% sure!

Thank you all for hellping me solve my doubts! Finally I decided to not to buy this phone. Anyway his price was $200 and was brand new. When I told him that is NOT an ORIGINAL HTC, he didn't wanted to convince me MAny thanks again for helping me!

less than $100 in Shenzhen, China
you can buy this replica on the street.
I must say it is a very good replica, and it works, but it is not the same....
try entering bootloader... impossible... there's not bootloader menu, you can enter a kind of bootloader menu for SD only, pressing volume up and reset at the same time... I think it runs windows CE.

Good you didnot buy it !00% fake even the box is very different from original htc one

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[help]screen faded

as u might be knowing dat i went for vacation....wen i returned i found dat a portion of my screen was more brighter than the other part...
then next morning the touch stopped working and after a successful hard reset the full screen became white.
then i charged it and kept it aside for 2-3 days.
nw my touch screen is workin fine but the main screen is very faded and hazy
please help me out
thnx
(will click the photo and upload it soon)
jyot said:
as u might be knowing dat i went for vacation....wen i returned i found dat a portion of my screen was more brighter than the other part...
then next morning the touch stopped working and after a successful hard reset the full screen became white.
then i charged it and kept it aside for 2-3 days.
nw my touch screen is workin fine but the main screen is very faded and hazy
please help me out
thnx
(will click the photo and upload it soon)
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Looks like a moisture issue. Was it ever came contact with water? If so, the same might get corrected automatically, if you keep it aside, say for 10 days or so (depends). Otherwise will have to take it to the service center, and if it is under warrenty, they will get your touch screen replaced for free, but they will make sure that there was no water contact (there is a mechanism inside the device, by which they can know whether water went inside or not). Otherwise, you will have to pay...
dheerajk27 said:
Looks like a moisture issue. Was it ever came contact with water? If so, the same might get corrected automatically, if you keep it aside, say for 10 days or so (depends). Otherwise will have to take it to the service center, and if it is under warrenty, they will get your touch screen replaced for free, but they will make sure that there was no water contact (there is a mechanism inside the device, by which they can know whether water went inside or not). Otherwise, you will have to pay...
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In case you are wondering, one of my collegues just changed his touch screen from RT outsourcing for OMFG 4.5 K.
i need to pay 3k if i buy a new touch screen....and i get a 2nd hand gene for 4k...
Addicted2xda said:
In case you are wondering, one of my collegues just changed his touch screen from RT outsourcing for OMFG 4.5 K.
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thats true.even if your device is in warranty,RT outsourcing will charge u 4.5K.
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karan999 said:
thats true.even if your device is in warranty,RT outsourcing will charge u 4.5K.
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That's the beauty with most Mobile cos. They will really f*&# you when you return to their service centre for repairs .
One of my friend recently changed the touch screen of Jas Jar for 12 K
Addicted2xda said:
That's the beauty with most Mobile cos. They will really f*&# you when you return to their service centre for repairs .
One of my friend recently changed the touch screen of Jas Jar for 12 K
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thanks god my screen is still safe.iv dropped my gene till now upto 7 or 8 times i guess.
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Rom upgrading is not easy.please be careful.
[GUIDE] Step by Step Guide for Upgrading P3400 and P3400i ROM + FAQs
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Hope we are not scaring jyot
hey i got a person...has great knowledge about HTC fones...he will some part of screen costing 1k....i hope its worth to repair my gene
jyot said:
hey i got a person...has great knowledge about HTC fones...he will some part of screen costing 1k....i hope its worth to repair my gene
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That's really good to know .
Best of luck.
My screen have a similar problem, but only on upper left corner. A small fade. I think i'll have to change my screen soon too.
@Jyot: I found one screen on ebay at 17,99 USD. Very cheap. In my city (here in Brazil) it cost 131,00 USD. 1/3 of Gene's price.
ramersonw said:
My screen have a similar problem, but only on upper left corner. A small fade. I think i'll have to change my screen soon too.
@Jyot: I found one screen on ebay at 17,99 USD. Very cheap. In my city (here in Brazil) it cost 131,00 USD. 1/3 of Gene's price.
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PDA Info : HTC P3400i(new gene) with 16GB SDHC card.
Currently using : Custom Manila 2D WM 6.5 23016 ROM based on BesFen's kitchen and Sumit's xip and sys
Rom upgrading is not easy.please be careful.
[GUIDE] Step by Step Guide for Upgrading P3400 and P3400i ROM + FAQs
3.5mm audio converter for HTC. Storage card information for HTC GENE users.
ramersonw said:
My screen have a similar problem, but only on upper left corner. A small fade. I think i'll have to change my screen soon too.
@Jyot: I found one screen on ebay at 17,99 USD. Very cheap. In my city (here in Brazil) it cost 131,00 USD. 1/3 of Gene's price.
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thanks man...even in INDIA the price of a new screen is 1/3 of a gene...
will buy it from ebay after some survey
also is there anybody who can chek the price of screen in australia
thnx
jyot said:
thanks man...even in INDIA the price of a new screen is 1/3 of a gene...
will buy it from ebay after some survey
also is there anybody who can chek the price of screen in australia
thnx
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I guess these YouKnowWhats have made a standard pricing throughout the world (So that people go for a new device than repair one). Ha Ha I need to get a battery and casing for my Vox (can't use ebay) and I am scared to death
Really is a s**t these companies who overprice repair parts of yours products to force people buy a new device. It's really a shame.
@Addicted: Some sellers on ebay ships worldwide. If you have a paypal account is easy to buy there. In some cases is the only solution to buy for a decent price.
ramersonw said:
Really is a s**t these companies who overprice repair parts of yours products to force people buy a new device. It's really a shame.
@Addicted: Some sellers on ebay ships worldwide. If you have a paypal account is easy to buy there. In some cases is the only solution to buy for a decent price.
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Unfortunately I don't have a credit card and nor am I eligible for one
thankyou sir...now lemme send it for repairs and then demand awesome roms...
For those who want to change your screen yourselves I have an advice. Before buy a new lcd, keep in mind that lcd for old gene is diferent from lcd of new gene. So take care before buy a replacement.
thnx for the advice
Reviving the topic ...
As my gene is no longer under warranty I decided to change the screen. It worked very well. Much cheaper than sending in for repair. I spent only 17.99. Looks like I have a new device.
To disassemble your gene just follow this link.

HTC Topaz (Touch Diamond 2) - real or fake?

Hi. I'm from Moscow, Russia and I've got a problem with my future (i hope) HTC Topaz.
After analyzing our(Russian) market I've came to a conclusion that there are at least 2 types of this device:
1. From Taiwan, certified, with guarantee, with Russian windows mobile - i.e. official one - 497.2$
2. From China, NOT certified, there are NO guarantee, English windows, the only document which comes with this device is a cash-memo and user manual - that's all (as salesman told me). price - 396$
100$ difference is a big money in my case. English Windows is not a problem, 'cause there are lots of info on howto change firmware. as for the guarantee - all the stuff i bought earlier (notebooks, cameras) are working just fine, I've never been at the service center before - so i hope i won't need one in future.
The question is: how to determine that the device I'm going to buy (before actually buying it; I'll have nearly 10-20 min) is a real one and not a fake like e.g. "HTS tauch brilliant2" or "Pear iFone 5g", that inside it's absolutely identical to the certified one, that the hardware is the same and I'll be able to change firmware. One of the problems is i won't be able to insert Sim and make a call, test WiFi and etc, 'cause the phone is probably locked. Is there any way, any program that allows to display a list of hardware inside this PDA on its screen or on the screen of notebook. Or maybe there is a list of serial numbers somewhere and i can compare them to the one i'll see under the battery? Maybe someone has bought it for extremely low price and really satisfied with it?
Any ideas and opinions are appreciated!
Thnx!
Best regards, Rudbur.
$396 is fake diamond 2 - it is easy to figure out - just turn it on and you'll see for yourself. real greyimport diamond 2 costs now $500, but it will has no manufacturer warranty anyway, don't get yourself tricked... if you want warranty - buy legally imported PCT device.
Oh, fellow countryman! Thanks for the answer!
You probably know (price.ru) what stores i mean. So, let's assume this: I'm ordering two different HTCs: one for 400$ and one for 500$. I turn them on (simultaneously), and what should i expect when testing the fake one?
If there's no difference at all - same buttons, same size, same menu and etc (except language: russian and english), should i buy cheapest?
oh, and i heard or read somewhere that china shops offer real topaz for 333$. Or am i wrong?
The Chinese "copies" aren't actually the same at all.
The names are similar/identical, and they try to mimmick the physical appearance of a genuine device, but the software and internals are all different. Usually there a obvious differences like a lower resolution camera, room for dual SIM cards etc.
I've never seen one myself, but I would imagine once you switch it on you'll get default Windows Mobile with no HTC add-ons. I doubt they have gone to the trouble of faking an entire HTC ROM as well - but I might be wrong.
Hi,
I can testify here, as I have been living in China for a while, and buying phones from the grey market for a while too.
a few things to know:
Real fake chinese stuff will not even have HTC written on it. MTC or something like that. The plastic looks cheap, and it wouldn't even have winmo on it. I saw a "Nolia N95" the other day with the Sony Ericsson interface on it!
Then, in china, you got an official one for real cheap, but the brand is Dopodo, and they don't have wifi built-in. It's the real stuff, but for chinese market only.
At last, the grey market stuff, like mine which I paid the equivalent of 400USD has, I believe "fallen from the truck" in HK... So it got the HK Rom in it, ot Taiwanese, not so certain, as it was in CHS, and they use CHT in those regions.
So, briefly, chinese fake will be very, very easy to spot Hope that helps!
Thanks to you all, guys. I hope the shop I'm going to buy from will allow me to test these devices and save few bucks. I emailed them earlier, asking about guarantee, prices and so on, but they haven't answered yet.
kipue, your opinion is especially important, because you lived there, you know what's what. So I'll draw attention to the labels on it, camera, functioning of wifi, windows mobile menus and all.
After actually buying it I'll post a reply here.
Best regards, Rudbur.

Phone from icraveit.com FAKE ???

Anyone ordered a phone from icraveit.com - http://www.icraveit.com/i/item/1000...-T4243-Quad-band-Cell-Phone-w--GPS-T4243.html
Is it original from HTC or a chinese one? I could not get any reply from icraveit.com regarding the phone (especially the speed..)?
I am trying to get an Iolite and dont know if this is good.
Hard to tell... The name is not right, but there is no specification, so we cannot see which processor is used on this model.
I think it's fake the name is not right and the Warranty is only 30-Days
Smells like fake indeed....price is soo low....and original version comes with more accesories....like car mount, pouch, screen protector, extra stylus....and in my country with TomTom.....
Frank Caarls said:
Smells like fake indeed....price is soo low....and original version comes with more accesories....like car mount, pouch, screen protector, extra stylus....and in my country with TomTom.....
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It does state it's recertified ( refurbished ). I was thinking the 4243 is US/NA version. Can anyone clarify this?
I got mine from MidnightBox.com, it is the retail version, and the true model. It included all the gadgets. Not sure if the one you are mentioning is a fake since they stated that it is out of stock and no picture.
Hope it helps
Another cheap T4242+ seller I found: cectunlocked.com.
How about this one?
Is the hardware on the US version diferent than European version, or just the radio firmware?
No point in buying fakes nowadays I got my true HTC from MediaMarket for 160€

Where can I buy HD2 motherboard?

Hi,
I have been using LEO more than 1 year and I was very happy with it. But I faced with many problems with my LEO in last 2 months. I never used any costom roms during first one year. Generally I carried it in my back pocket (now I suggest you, don't do that.) . 2 months ago it reset itself and restarted like first start of winmo, it prepare itself for first use. I lost many data at that point , then I think that this was a chance to try custom roms and android. I load a custom rom and android in SD card, all was ok for a few days, but then I started get SODs and WSODs several times in a day. I apply many things that I learned from this forum ( by the way thanks everybody really I learned many many things about HD2) task 29, task 2a, auto backlight off, hard reset, soft reset, original ROm loading etc etc:
What I have done when I got SOD,
-remove battery,
-place battery,
-Then sometimes it worked as expected but more times I got WSOD,
-when I got WSOD (at the begining installing custom rom via usb were ok but last 2 weeks it wasn't enough) then I perform task 2a, tak 29, then I install original ROM from SD card,
-then I perform HSPL,
-install radio (generally 2.14.50...)
-install costum rom
-then all become ok.
But then a few hours later I got SOD again
I suddenly realize that when HD2 a litle bit bended ( like in my pocket when I was walking) SOD occured. I observed a litle more than I decide to dissasemble HD2( because it has no warranty ), I couldn't find any cable or connector losen. It is strongly possible that Main board defected while in my pocket.
I searched forum and I find one who has same problem and he/she replaced Mainboard then he/she never get SOD anymore.
So please help me where can I buy a mainboard for HD2? I prefer buy it online, because I am sure that I can't buy it in Turkey.
Thanks for your help.
you are going to have to google that one or send your phone to htc for repairs
i dont think you can get hold of one other than from htc themselves!
i also put my hd2 in my back pocket...it fits perfectly doesn't it ?
anhyeuemmaimai said:
you are going to have to google that one or send your phone to htc for repairs
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Thanks, already googled but found only a few bricked mainboard on ebay, all useless.
El Che said:
i dont think you can get hold of one other than from htc themselves!
i also put my hd2 in my back pocket...it fits perfectly doesn't it ?
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yeap it fits perfectly,
I sent it to service, 2 days later they sent me a text message " mainboard defective, it have to be replaced and its cost will be 450 USD" ofcourse I reject it. So I have only one possible solution: selling it for parts on ebay or local online shopping pages.
By the way thank you.
bahoiz said:
I sent it to service, 2 days later they sent me a text message " mainboard defective, it have to be replaced and its cost will be 450 USD" ofcourse I reject it. So I have only one possible solution: selling it for parts on ebay or local online shopping pages.
By the way thank you.
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merhaba
bende anakart arıyorum bugün elektropower diye bi yere vermiştim hd2 yi anakartta sorun var dediler.siz buldunuz mu acaba .teşekkürler
why dont you have warranty?
DN41
I was told by HTC UK that HD2 carries a 2 year warranty.....
vahapzade said:
merhaba
bende anakart arıyorum bugün elektropower diye bi yere vermiştim hd2 yi anakartta sorun var dediler.siz buldunuz mu acaba .teşekkürler
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hayır bulamadım hala. özelden görüşebiliriz isterseniz.
adamelphick said:
I was told by HTC UK that HD2 carries a 2 year warranty.....
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If you bought your htc from UK, ok you have warranty in UK. But in my case I bought it when I was in US, then I came back to Turkey, and my phone hasn't warranty in Turkey and I will not visit US in the near future.
If you know someone in the UK theres this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-HD2-Mobile-Phone-Screen-Cracked-/130452670122?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item1e5f95c6aa
Or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Htc-hd2-leo-windows-mobile-main-board-uk-/270660138958?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f0499f7ce
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If you know someone in the UK theres this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-HD2-Mobile-Phone-Screen-Cracked-/130452670122?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item1e5f95c6aa
Or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Htc-hd2-leo-windows-mobile-main-board-uk-/270660138958?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f0499f7ce
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Oh thanks , you are the man I'll ty to get one of them.
thanks again
The final of the story:
I sold it (for parts), 250 USD.
Thanks for all.
Hi,
I need new motherboard for hd2. WHere I can find it?
dzi0bas said:
Hi,
I need new motherboard for hd2. WHere I can find it?
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You can get one from HTC
More real modality is to buy from eBay a damaged T8585 for parts (i.e. with damaged sensor but able to boot and make calls).
i bought my HTC HD2 motherboard from gadgetsaving.com and it work perfect. they had it for the lowest price on the net. shipping was fast and the motherboard came with a 7 day money back
osatata said:
i bought my HTC HD2 motherboard from gadgetsaving.com and it work perfect. they had it for the lowest price on the net. shipping was fast and the motherboard came with a 7 day money back
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Would be a good idea if the site wouldn't take me all the way to check out, asked to enter a country and a region, then proceeded to tell me they only ship in USA and Canada.
I am also looking for motherboard, had been looking for quite some time too, I check eBay and such regularly, but it all comes to the seller's unwillingness to send to New Zealand. Willing to pay $85, but nobody is willing to send
Despite what some people are saying you can not buy parts directly from HTC themselves.
Excerpt from HTC repair website:
Q: Can I just buy the parts and fix my own phone?
A: We do not sell any parts directly. Link found here.
Your best bet would be to price match parts and seller reviews from Ebay and Google.
Try eBay people sell there's for parts
U need send me pm
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

[Q] Question with a note 4 demo unit

Hi all of you, i´m thinking to buy a note 4 demo unit i know that it can´t be used like a normal note 4 but here´s a but, i´m also thinking to buy a note 4 normal mother board and my question is, if I can replace de normal motherboard in the demo unit and have a full phone working, I want to do this because is more cheap to me if I buy separately and make the phone working, sorry if the post don´t go here, I will be really really thanksfull is you can help me thanks in advance.
jacksoncolocho said:
Hi all of you, i´m thinking to buy a note 4 demo unit i know that it can´t be used like a normal note 4 but here´s a but, i´m also thinking to buy a note 4 normal mother board and my question is, if I can replace de normal motherboard in the demo unit and have a full phone working, I want to do this because is more cheap to me if I buy separately and make the phone working, sorry if the post don´t go here, I will be really really thanksfull is you can help me thanks in advance.
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Not sure about the others. But the phone seems like not able to get opened up as easy as unscrewing the screw. Probably will leave some scratches or damage to the digitizer etc. Is the price differ that much?
PS: What about IMEI number?? If you are buying demo unit I don't think you will have any valid IMEI from the demo phone.
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Not sure about the others. But the phone seems like not able to get opened up as easy as unscrewing the screw. Probably will leave some scratches or damage to the digitizer etc. Is the price differ that much?
PS: What about IMEI number?? If you are buying demo unit I don't think you will have any valid IMEI from the demo phone.
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He could just use one from an old phone (or maybe his carrier doesn't care about phones without IMEI-numbers).
jacksoncolocho said:
Hi all of you, i´m thinking to buy a note 4 demo unit i know that it can´t be used like a normal note 4 but here´s a but, i´m also thinking to buy a note 4 normal mother board and my question is, if I can replace de normal motherboard in the demo unit and have a full phone working, I want to do this because is more cheap to me if I buy separately and make the phone working, sorry if the post don´t go here, I will be really really thanksfull is you can help me thanks in advance.
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If you have the demo units that had been used during launch then your going to need more then a Mobo. The screens don't actually work so you'll need one of those. Also a battery. Then the Mobo. Working Spen, because the demo units don't actually work. Then you need to get the equipment to flash a IMEI if the Mobo doesn't have one. Just at the price of Mobo replacements your better off buying a real Note 4 straight up.
ok I want to do that because I already did with an S5 I purchase a demo unit then just replaced the motherboard with another that I have, and now I have a fully functional galasy S5, but I don´t know if it is the same with a note 4 by the way the demo unit of the galaxy S5 is the g900x model and use it with a g900h motherboard
jacksoncolocho said:
ok I want to do that because I already did with an S5 I purchase a demo unit then just replaced the motherboard with another that I have, and now I have a fully functional galasy S5, but I don´t know if it is the same with a note 4 by the way the demo unit of the galaxy S5 is the g900x model and use it with a g900h motherboard
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hmmm What i know so its possible you just need to change the motherboard with IMEI .
Cheerz
M
this is really old and all, but:
i opened a note 4 live demo unit last week:
the antenna cables between the mainboard and the bottom/usb PCB are missing including the connectors on the boards(s),
so it would appear that you at least need to add those cables, and either solder the connectors on the bottom pcb (or replace the whole bottom pcb, which is likely easier).
and beyond that, i cannot tell if the actual antennas are maybe missing too.
(and maybe one of the two cables is for wifi, which could explain that wifi is rather weak on my note4)
I believe that demo units are actually fully functional units of the retail product. The only difference is that the OS has been customized so it contain additional retail demo bloatware.
i own three note4 demo units (off ebay) and used them for years, with wifi tethering to a low-end phone for internet.
here is a picture of a disassembled note4 demo unit (right/top) compared to a regular (gsm) unit (bottom/left).
imgur.com/a/A1WKlJK
please observe the missing cables and unpopulated pcb connectors.
i dont't know about the other radio hardware.
i've had an offer from somebody who can supposedly turn a demo unit into a functional phone with a software fix, but the missing cable speaks against that.
otherwise the main difference is that demo units have the "samsung retail mode" app installed, which does all kinds of annoying things, and blocks any removal of itself through regular means (unless you know it's password), but getting rid of it is rather trivial, because the bootloader of the demo units (that i had) is not locked. you can just flash a new rom (AND wipe userdata)... or even just a custom recovery, and delete the retail-mode app from the system through the recovery.
but even then, no cellular radio.
and no gps(!), supposedly because gps is handled by the same chip.

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