Got my Nexus One today. I was like a kid waiting to go to the candy store all day at school. I don't know if I have ever looked forward to going to work as much as I did today. Instant impression/feedback on "issues" to look out for:
"Dust Issue": I have no clicking corners or dust under the screen. Build quality seems top notch!
The boxing seems to be top notch as well. Nice design, good layout, I was able to put it all back together with ease(not common with cell phone boxes).
Battery: 42% charged out of the box, which is nice! I am going to give it a go at running it down before bed so I can leave it on the charger overnight to get a good full first charge and set the battery stats correctly.
Beyond that, not much to add to the conversation.
Going to add in some stuff as I go along:
On Screen Keyboard: In landscape I can type faster on this than my G1! I started practicing using the onscreen keyboard on my G1 after I ordered the N1, so the learning curve wasn't as steep as a new user... but none-the-less I can type very fast on this, to say the least. Can't wait to experience the better keyboards out there than the stock one.
pjcforpres said:
Battery: 42% charged out of the box, which is nice! I am going to give it a go at running it down before bed so I can leave it on the charger overnight to get a good full first charge and set the battery stats correctly.
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The card manual it comes with says to charge it first.
I think if you run it down first without a full charge first, you'll degrade the battery from the get-go.
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The card manual it comes with says to charge it first.
I think if you run it down first without a full charge first, you'll degrade the battery from the get-go.
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So it does... eh, I am going to stick to my tried and true method (Also the method the HTC tech training told us to tell customers to use with every single HTC made phone, and the same thing the BB guys said). I already did it this way with 1 N1, and the battery lasted me 24 hours, my manager almost 48, and the tester after her almost 48 hours as well.
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The card manual it comes with says to charge it first.
I think if you run it down first without a full charge first, you'll degrade the battery from the get-go.
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It's Li-ion... so no he won't.
Oh, so no dust issue for you! I hope I'm as lucky, when, if I ever, hopefully soon, get my N1! ^.^
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Oh, so no dust issue for you! I hope I'm as lucky, when, if I ever, hopefully soon, get my N1! ^.^
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Yup, and I have a theory on the dust issue... I think it is because they get too cold in shipping, so the contraction of the screen and seal causes it to come loose... and considering the first couple weeks this phone was launched, we were having a really bad cold spell in the US, it was a bit more widespread than usual.
And yes, Li-Ion, so all I need to worry about it making sure the micro-chip has the proper low and high battery level set.
I could see this cold thing being true, even down here in Florida where I live it is still cold - even in the Winter it doesn't quite get as cold as it recently has. If this theory is correct, then when it starts to get warmer the issue will soon not be a problem.
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I could see this cold thing being true, even down here in Florida where I live it is still cold - even in the Winter it doesn't quite get as cold as it recently has. If this theory is correct, then when it starts to get warmer the issue will soon not be a problem.
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In Florida too! Dang that was the coldest winter we ever had (altamonte springs )
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In Florida too! Dang that was the coldest winter we ever had (altamonte springs )
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I so agree!! I hate this cold weather so much! I'm definitely not used to it.. the news where I live said it was going to "snow", I've never seen snow in my life, and yet this still wasn't the year >.>
I'm new to these forums, and I don't think this is the place to discuss all of this though
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It's Li-ion... so no he won't.
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What is the purpose of the card manual saying to do this?
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What is the purpose of the card manual saying to do this?
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I am not 100% sure... I would assume if you don't turn the phone on at all, and do as it says, it would turn out just fine and get the 100% level set right, which is the most important one to have properly set. As well, I think it has to do with a small amount of "idiot" proofing the process for people, in that if they do it that way it is fewer steps, and they won't randomly think their battery sucks because they only got 8 hours off it out of the box, or they mess up and put it on the charger right after turning it on and messing up the settings of the micro chip that reads the levels.
I have an "expert" BB training tomorrow, and then in 2 weeks we have our "expert" HTC training. I will ask both tomorrow and at the HTC one why they say this... BB says the same thing in their manual, even though at the tech trainings they tell us otherwise.
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Other than the speculation that pjc already made, another reason is that they don't want people to fail to notice that the battery came partially charged and they have a negative impression of the phone when they get the low battery warning so soon during their first experience.
Also, today's phones might come with around 50% charge level, but next month phones might ship with 10% charge or who knows. So, telling them to charge before use avoids any unnecessary brushes with problems arising from doing the initial setup with a low battery. This will be especially true when people starting getting phones after the first OTA is out. If an OTA triggers right after unboxing with less than 20% battery that could be bad.
And, an uncalibrated battery may say 40% out of the box, but in reality it might be at 70% or 20% or who knows - until it is calibrated.
And finally, while the limit that the phone most likely needs calibration on is the lower limit, the consequences of not calibrating the lower limit are simply that you get more warnings sooner than you needed to. It won't actually affect how long the phone can stay on since that is determined by the battery reaching an actual hardware limit that is pretty fixed and measurable (only the estimation of that limit is off, but the phone has a pretty good idea of when it actually reaches that limit). On the other hand, while calibrating the upper limit is probably going to happen anyway just by using the phone and recharging it overnight as many people tend to do, the upper limit is the one that can affect the entire length of time the phone can stay on because if you don't charge it to "true full" then you really do have less energy in the battery.
So, all in all, "charge your phone before use" is probably the best bang for the buck in terms of characters-per-useful-info that they can put on a "read this first" card.
But, for best battery life - read the guidelines posted here and on other forums and sites on how to properly calibrate your battery and follow them. Typically you want to first discharge until the phone forces itself to turn off - then recharge until it says it is full and then keep charging a few hours past that for good measure, then you are golden for a long time...
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I read about this on a professional site but cannot remember where. Here is what you do:
"To help with battery life you can do these steps EXACTLY:
1. Turn your device ON and CHARGE the device for 8 hours or more
2. UNPLUG the device and TURN the phone OFF and CHARGE for 1 hour
3. UNPLUG the device TURN ON and wait 2 minutes and then TURN OFF and CHARGE for another hour
Your battery life should double. We have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well"
I am still waiting for my phone but I will try this as soon as I get it. I am wondering if this trick applies only to new phones or not? If someone will like to test this please go ahead and give us some feedback. Thanks
no offence but can you tell me how you can charge the device which has been charging for 8 hours? to my knowledge, there are circuits that avoids over-charging in these kind of devices?
You got a point. Like I said, I took this off the net but cannot remember where.
Check out this article: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9000-galaxy-s-full-battery-test-ready-–-up-with-the-best/
It's impossible to manage 84h on single charge Or it is possible when you charge phone to 100% then leave it on your desk and don't even touch it.
Im pretty sure I could get up to a week of battery if i didnt use the phone at all. Over night the battery drains 1% max.
rocketpaul said:
Im pretty sure I could get up to a week of battery if i didnt use the phone at all. Over night the battery drains 1% max.
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standby is quoted as 24-26 days. it's sick. screen on is what sucks the power (in addition to sync and background apps).
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standby is quoted as 24-26 days. it's sick. screen on is what sucks the power (in addition to sync and background apps).
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for me, wifi uses up 65% of the power lol.
I like to ask, how long have you all had your phones? I think the longer or often you charge your phones the better the drainage power.
ive had mine for two weeks
Don't believe everything you read on the internet..
When I was working at an Apple Premium reseller, I nearly exploded with laughter every day at some of the ridiculous rumors I heard, which were obviously wrong to anyone who sold them, but plenty of major sites were reporting they were likely..
Even now, Kevin Rose (the genius who said that he had seen the iPhone and it had 2 batteries) is still saying crap (which 2 years after I left still seems wrong to me), and every site is STILL reporting it as fact.
A lot of the stuff you read on the internet is untrue. This might be a bit true because of battery calibration and such, but I honestly do question it..
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Don't believe everything you read on the internet..
When I was working at an Apple Premium reseller, I nearly exploded with laughter every day at some of the ridiculous rumors I heard, which were obviously wrong to anyone who sold them, but plenty of major sites were reporting they were likely..
Even now, Kevin Rose (the genius who said that he had seen the iPhone and it had 2 batteries) is still saying crap (which 2 years after I left still seems wrong to me), and every site is STILL reporting it as fact.
A lot of the stuff you read on the internet is untrue. This might be a bit true because of battery calibration and such, but I honestly do question it..
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Agreed. After all, if these ridiculous battery "tricks" worked at all, then the physics behind them would be built into the chargers by the manufacturers. Unless you think they are crippling the battery on purpose for no reason? Makes no sense.
Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference. When I got my phone (mt4g) I starte using it right away without charging it, everything seemed fine I had an issue with the screen so I exchanged it and got a new one. This one I charged first for a few hours before even turning it on and it did make a difference. my battery seemed to be holding a charge for longer. When I got another battery I read they recommend charging it fully off for at least 8 hours then when you do power it on let it run down all the way. Do that for the first 5 charges and it will help your battery health in the long run.
Another example is my friend got two of the same phone one for him and one for his gf. He started using his as soon as he got out of the store, hers he charged for her because he didnt see her that night. He said the phones are pretty much set up identically, same software, same services running etc.. and he said her battery lasts noticeably longer than his
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference.
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Thanks for the input. Ya, I have heard a lot of stories like yours.
And even if it doesn't always make a difference, it's only 8 hours, so it should be worth it just to make sure, but when you've been waiting since January for an android tablet and you finally get one in April, 8 hours is forever. ha ha
Thanks
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
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Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
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Many new batteries will charge to 90% or 95%, then display the light as "fully charged". They will continue to to charge to 100%, drain back down to 90%, and back and forth in order to not stick at full 100% (aka charging over night).
That being said I've heard a lot of talk about conditioning smartphone batteries etc. and for the most part I haven't seen a lot of evidence to prove that it is necessary. Lithium Ion batteries really don't need conditioning or anything as much as you'd think... that's really an old NiCad thing to do.
I did not charge mine when i first got it, the battery was already at 90% about and i simply used it for a day and a half and now i'm charging it for the first time. i regularly get new electronics devices and i never have better problems personally. battery tech has come up a ways in the last few years.
It's well known by now the Li-ion batteries do better with short, more frequent charges. It is not a good idea to run it down until dead. These batteries also do not have a "memory."
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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I got my Xoom wifi and plugged it in and turned it on. Couldn't wait any longer.
It's an awesome tablet and the battery lasts all day, with constant wifi and playing.
Thanks for the advice guys
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Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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Well said. Alas, no matter what a sound scientific methods proves some people just won't listen...
I used it right out of the box and have no issued
Thanks for posting this - timely reminder to check up on the latest info on li-ion batteries (given I will be getting my xoom tomorrow).
Here is a summary on lithium ion:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Appreciate if anyone finds other links that explain it even better but are also as reliable.
I thought of this thread. It's for N1 but if you have some spare time, tons of information in that thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609&highlight=battery+calibration
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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What do you basr yourself on for this??
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gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
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Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
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I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
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I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.
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I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
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Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.
I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
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The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
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That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...
Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Ahhhh vindication ...
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As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
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A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
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Not sure what I expected I guess. I found these glasses much more fascinating before I got them. People stare at you when you show up with them. Some are intrigued, some want you to remove them with dealing with you. What I have found is they are a better attachment to my S5 than my Gear 2 watch. Love the heads up text display, etc.
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Not sure what I expected I guess. I found these glasses much more fascinating before I got them. People stare at you when you show up with them. Some are intrigued, some want you to remove them with dealing with you. What I have found is they are a better attachment to my S5 than my Gear 2 watch. Love the heads up text display, etc.
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Does it have a recording feature why persons want u to remove it before dealing with them?
Does it really cost $1500 us?
Apart from what u stated, do u love the device?
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Does it have a recording feature why persons want u to remove it before dealing with them?
Does it really cost $1500 us?
Apart from what u stated, do u love the device?
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Yes, you can take pictures and video with it. It is $1500. Aside from all of that, I do like it so far.
EVOme said:
Yes, you can take pictures and video with it. It is $1500. Aside from all of that, I do like it so far.
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Great to hear, been watching a lot of video reviews on it n I must say it is a good device am jus t not into wearable tech just yet. I think we are getting there but not in the sense that Google is trying... And for 1500 bucks I think we should get at least a spare
Drain the battery completely and then charge it completely a few times. Mine lasts all day.
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Drain the battery completely and then charge it completely a few times. Mine lasts all day.
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I thought this was a bad idea to do with newer batteries? Notably, either keeping the battery charged at 100% for extended periods (some devices charge to 100% and then let the battery drop down to like 97% then re-charge), or draining it all the way down to/near 0%.
I have heard that as well. In the case of Glass, I got decent battery life the first day or two, but on the third day I took it off of the charger and it reported <10% a few minutes later. Half an hour later it shut itself off and I plugged it in and left it plugged in for the day. I haven't had an issue since; it now lasts me from 5am to 10pm every day.
Others in the Explorers forum report the same "fix" and swear by it.
Be careful to leave it on when charging
Glass, like other devices that use the same technology, need a few full charge-discharge cycles to reach full battery lifetime.
Glass also has the crazy property that they will not charge if they are completely turned off and shut down. Make sure the LED is flashing when you expect them to be charging!
actually, how long you can use that google glass? it suposed to be a day without charging?
I got 4 pairs of glass for $50 because of the home try out program lol. The battery life isn't good however at the same time it's mainly because you can't shut off wifi or Bluetooth without installing glass control
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My battery seemed to last all day. I would go get that checked.
Firware updates
When I was on version 13.x I could go all day no problem. Ever since then I can go about half day. Its software so I'm now worried.
Same here.
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Might be that they are still in dev? Just my opinion.
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I actually bought mine in India and it last for a day and half.
XxCyberHackerxX said:
I got 4 pairs of glass for $50 because of the home try out program lol. The battery life isn't good however at the same time it's mainly because you can't shut off wifi or Bluetooth without installing glass control
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Wait how'd you get 4pairs for $50?!?
Google glass try out program
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For future reference...
So how much the battery holds? I'm planning to buy Google Glass once I get my savings ready lol
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C410s said:
So how much the battery holds? I'm planning to buy Google Glass once I get my savings ready lol
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I know that Google initially estimated a battery life of 1 day for 'typical' use, but I suppose that can vary considering not everyone’s "day" is typically the same As we all know, many hi-tech devices, can have a touchy battery life, some which seem surprisingly low for this day and age and some that hold up rather well, regardless of how often we use them. So perhaps it could possibly depend upon the initial charge and/or overall treatment of the device and battery? Also, I believe they did an upgrade to the operating system earlier this year that included improving the battery life, and from what I’ve heard, it’s a bit better than it was before!
how long does the battery last?
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how long does the battery last?
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Mine lasts over 20 hours.
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
KLit75 said:
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Yea. Thats my biggest fear. Ive replaced small parts before but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be so Im afraid I might mess it up. Plus I'll need to buy a heat gun.
I'll be more than a little pissed if the battery's shot. This phone is barely 14 months old. Either give us a decent battery or make it replaceable.
Thanks for the info btw. I just installed the app.
Update--Im switching things up a bit. Recently I made some changes and this time I flashed a new rom without some of those changes.
1. I had switched from Action 3 to Nova
*HIGHLY doubt nova is eating up my battery so Im still using it BUT I did remove a widget that has weather. Since I keep phone on device only location, I think theres a chance its always trying to find my locale and consuming battery.
2. I didn't add a gov profile yet.
3. This is the first time in about 4 or 5 rom flashes I didnt flash CTT Mod.
* Again I doubt this is causing battery issues but Im gonna hold off flashing it. No throttling thus far.
As suggested Ill be monitoring with accubattery for a few cycles. But been using my phone about 90 mins this morning (at least 90% of that time actively using with screen on) and I've lost 13%--a huge improvement from yesterday.
KLit75 said:
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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KLit75 said:
Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing.
I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health.
But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity).
I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing. I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health. But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity). I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Thanks for the support! I checked that thread and didn't see specific parts (inexpensive ones you referenced) If they're listed Ill look again. It doesn't seem too daunting. I was able to replace the screen on my son's WiU controller. Those were very tiny parts and YES--I did snap off a clip, however I was able to fudge it and it's still working about a year later.
Far as RMA, does anyone know if they replace it with the same crappy stock battery? From my perspective this seems like a clear case where a recall is in order.
But if its the same battery, Im just setting myself up for the same problems 8 to 12 months from now. Even if I buy a new phone Id still want to sell this one and thats not as easy with a crap battery. Plus theyd have my phone for x days so Id need to find a temp phone in the meantime.
Don't mean to jabber on...this sucks.
Oh yeah...cuz it was after hours I sent an email to support last night. Do you think Ill get a response? Or should I just call when I have time to be on hold?
Spoke to a clone at Huawei then asked to speak to the clone's supervisor (wasn't sure if clones had supervisors--they do. But the programming is identical.) Long frustrating phone call and they aren't going to replace my battery because its out of warranty...by 4 f#@&ing days!
I told them they lost a customer for life and I was being 100% sincere. How could I ever buy from people who thinks it ok to sell defective crap, know about it, then do nothing to make things right?
I'm gonna replace the battery on my own. Whether things go good or terrible, one thing is certain--itll be the last time I ever replace anything on any product made by Huawei.