I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
I think I'm missing something
Wond3r said:
I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
I think I'm missing something
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Hero's screen looks m uch better though and has Teflon coating for scratch proof. Colors dont look washed out on the hero either.
What is the previous Diamond?
Wond3r said:
I have the Diamond, I am probably getting the Hero.
Diamond 2.8" . 480x640
Hero 3.2" 320x480
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you are mistaken, the hero has a VGA screen, 480x640, 320x480 is QVGA and android 1.5 does not even support this resolution
xxThugxx @ TPB said:
you are mistaken, the hero has a VGA screen, 480x640, 320x480 is QVGA and android 1.5 does not even support this resolution
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You are wrong, the resolution is 320x480 as the original poster already mentioned. It is far from the high resolution experienced on the VGA Diamond. BTW, QVGA 240x320, as on the HTC Touch.
The Diamond is an older HTC touchscreen phone. HTC Touch Diamond.
So the hero's screen is not as high resolution as my Diamond? Really? I would expect it to be better ... hmm... I think I'll still make the leap though because this Diamond isnt that great.
Guys, this has been known since the release of Android 1.1 back on the G1.
The only resolution supported on any device prior to Android 1.6 was the HVGA resoultion that the Hero uses. As this was the only resolution the OS supported, the hardware is a HVGA screen.
Now, when Android 1.6 was released, it added support for many more resolutions, including the lower QVGA (which the tattoo uses), WVGA (800*480, which i believe the Nexus uses) and many more.
The Hero has a 320*480 HVGA screen because when it was released, that was the ONLY resolution that Android could render.
And no, the screen is hardware limited, so the resolution will not increase when the 2.1 update is released.
rhedgehog, you learn sumat new every day init :lol i knew post android 1.5 only supported a single res, but i was under the impression that was vga not hvga, thats why i assumed the hero had a vga res thanx for putting me straight
No probs.
I've lost count of the amount of stuff i have learned from this place. gotta admit i wouldn;t know probably even a tenth of the stuff i know if it wasn't for years of fiddling in the winmo forums and learning what you could actually do with these things.
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The Diamond is an older HTC touchscreen phone. HTC Touch Diamond.
So the hero's screen is not as high resolution as my Diamond? Really? I would expect it to be better ... hmm... I think I'll still make the leap though because this Diamond isnt that great.
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i had the Diamond before Hero...
Hero is so much better... after ROM upgrade!!
you will not be sorry!
Dan330 said:
i had the Diamond before Hero...
Hero is so much better... after ROM upgrade!!
you will not be sorry!
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upgrade to which ROM though
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upgrade to which ROM though
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I am on Modaco 1.3; it is stable and no issues for me...
I am considering going to Modaco 2.1, but might just wait for Android 2.1... Maybe in 2-3 months!!!!!
Some have used other ROMs, I have not tried....
You have to read up on them.. and see what you like the best for your needs.
MCR 3.1 seems plenty fast enough and stable enough for me....not had any issues since i went to that.
IMHO the difference in resolution from the Diamond is not a big deal. Plus the screen is taller on the Hero.
The Modaco ROM makes a huge difference, go for the 3.2 version when it comes out; currently the 3.2 beta is for paid members only.. but it is worth it... speed optimizations are amazing and you can cook your own components with the Modaco online kitchen.
I changed from TD to Hero, and much prefer the screen on the Hero. Yes the TD has a better definition in theory, but IMHO the screen was too small to take real advanatge of it.
the only way i could do anything accurately with the TD screen was by using the stylus. The larger capacitive screen on the Hero is designed for being used with a finger - in fact a stylus won't work on it.
I think the Hero is so much easier to use and that is due to a combination of the capacitive screen, the Android software and the sense ui that HTC installs onto the software. The only thing going for the iphone was its ease of use but I think my Hero beats it.
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Wow!!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-touch-pro2-is-awesome-in-ways-the-touch-pro-never-could-be/
Touch Pro 2 - Possible upgrade to HD? 5mm thicker 30g heavier, slide outkeyboard+3.6" VGA+more
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
Diamond 2:
3.2" VGA etc
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond2/overview.html
Sadly. . . no 3.5 mm jack. Its meant for business people.
Also this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-ceo-windows-mobile-6-5-to-be-announced-this-afternoon/
HOLY CRAP. . .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
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Like I said .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
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That new TPro is still sexy though , but they could have done with out the bezel and all the brushed aluminum(not saying that I don't like).
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
excellent birthday present....
I think my girlfriend will be pleased when i'll give her the diamond2 for her birthday (hoping it will be available by then)
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
Grtz,
Degake
degake said:
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
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What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
ClownShoes said:
What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
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I was expecting that someone would give this comment
And I truely/deeply hope I can fiddle with the phone and my girlfriend then (but best not both at the same time )
Grtz,
Degake
i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
sunnymiu said:
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
KennyDies said:
Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
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The Touch Pro 2 is just too heavy for me, the HD is bad enough...same old story, to keyboard or not to keyboard. The WhiteStone is supposed to be the replacement for the HD. Who knows when it will come. Personally I don't care to upgrade my HD because with these new devices come new roms, YES!
sunnymiu said:
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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i fully believe that the new TouchFLO will be available to the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS
and i can't wait, it seems to have some nice additions and tweaks
o and WinMo 6.5 will definitely be available for the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS (not an official upgrade, but fully awesome)
not impressed
I'm not impressed, i have had three HTC Phones and all have been underpowered due lack of chipset drivers, I will be probably looking towards the omnia HD next, unless HTC decide to shell out the cash for licences for drivers. it winds me up no end that. made I was fooled yet again by HTC into buying one of their half finished handsets.
Its good more XVGA's are coming out as it means more supported apps. Maybe a google version might help us crack the RGB666 issue.
Hardware Keyboard
I sincerely beleive that the HD (aka beast, aka black stone) is currently the ultimate device. Most people who long for a hardware keyboard must have never used the TouchPal. I have done continuous testing and TouchPal allows me and most other people to type considerable faster. I DO RECCOMEND IT for anyone who has not tried it.
I love what I'm seeing with the new ROMs out there and I'm not worried at all that the brilliant minds of this community will bring it to the world best device. Heck, after WM 6.1 was ported to the BlueAngel than everything is possible here!
I love my HD and these new devices can't even hold a candle to it. 3.8 WVGA display, FM Radio, 5MP camera with Autofocus, GPS, front full 2nd VGA camera, 7 hardware buttons, magnetic stylus, expandable memeory via Micro SD (now up to 32GB) all in a form factor the same size as the iPhone! (who can beat that?!)
Only thing the HD's missing is US 3G support, and Video Out, and a capacitve touchscreen.
Damn I love my HD!!!!!
The only way to make the HD better
The on
ahjdmarchi said:
i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL yes many of us agree with you there!
I wonder if there's an exact launch date on this. I'm due for an upgrade soon.
Before getting the HD, I was a happy TyTN II user. Sure I wished for at least VGA and a larger screen but I was content (with the technology back then). But when the super sexy HD came out with WVGA and faster performance I was interested but the lack of keyboard held me back till I found out I could manipulate the screen to horizontal for any "serious typing" since the landscape keyboard was almost the same size in length as the physical keyboard. Now with FingerKeyboard (the black & red) I am completely satisfied. I gained light-weight and thin and able to type.
My next upgrade will be for windows 6.5 and the faster processor and video card!
I think my girlfriend will be pleased
I just pre-ordered the diamond2
expected delivery date: april 10th
I'm gonna be so lucky tonight
Grtz,
Degake
When I was doing a bit of theming a while ago, I noticed that lots of the drawable folders had references to a landscape Rosie, even though that wasn't being used. Now the 2.1 screenshots have leaked, we can see that there is now indeed a landscape Rosie..
Whilst theming a ROM for the CDMA Hero however, I came across folders in Rosie.apk such as 'drawable-land-800x480'. So could we be seeing a new Rosie device with 800x480 resolution?
edit - maybe it's not a large display device and actually a HD version of the Hero??
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When I was doing a bit of theming a while ago, I noticed that lots of the drawable folders had references to a landscape Rosie, even though that wasn't being used. Now the 2.1 screenshots have leaked, we can see that there is now indeed a landscape Rosie..
Whilst theming a ROM for the CDMA Hero however, I came across folders in Rosie.apk such as 'drawable-land-800x480'. So could we be seeing a new Rosie device with 800x480 resolution?
edit - maybe it's not a large display device and actually a HD version of the Hero??
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There is no such thing as HD on android or win mob devices nor will it exists in the near future, 800x480 dosent even come close to HD, im sure that the said folders are more of a default thing made with future wvga devices in mind
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that as the HTC HD2 has the same resolution, 800x480. I'm not talking about 1080p or something if that's what you're trying to get at..
Did you take back the HTC HD from your sig complaining it wasn't really HD?!
They didn't used to be in the roms, they have appeared in later roms. A bit like how there were references to the landscape mode, but they are only getting implemented in 2.1..
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that as the HTC HD2 has the same resolution, 800x480. I'm not talking about 1080p or something if that's what you're trying to get at..
Did you take back the HTC HD from your sig complaining it wasn't really HD?!
They didn't used to be in the roms, they have appeared in later roms. A bit like how there were references to the landscape mode, but they are only getting implemented in 2.1..
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Exactly the HD isnt HD thats just a brand name, what i mean is the folder Structure is a generic one and with the release of android 2.0 that supports diffrent screen res's HTC are just getting ready for there new range of snapdragon powered wvga android devices
Yes exactly, that's what my whole post is about.
I just thought it was interesting, that's all
HD means high definition. And 480x800 on a phone looks damn HD to me.
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HD means high definition. And 480x800 on a phone looks damn HD to me.
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480x800 is no where near a high definition resoulution but more to the point even if someone made a device with a high enough resolution 1200x900 for example it still wudnt be HD unless the screen was interlaced or progressivly scanned which there not anyway lol
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480x800 is no where near a high definition resoulution but more to the point even if someone made a device with a high enough resolution 1200x900 for example it still wudnt be HD unless the screen was interlaced or progressivly scanned which there not anyway lol
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You don't get what I'm saying. I am not talking about HD As a standard. Because your 1920x1080 may not be as high definition for a tv when the technology evolves. My point was all about pixel density, that wvga resolution is very high definition indeed for a screen this size. So the HD makes sense in device's name.
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You don't get what I'm saying. I am not talking about HD As a standard. Because your 1920x1080 may not be as high definition for a tv when the technology evolves. My point was all about pixel density, that wvga resolution is very high definition indeed for a screen this size. So the HD makes sense in device's name.
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Yeah i understand what your saying and the image quality of wvga devices is of great quality (especially the TD/TP 2 they have the same res of the HD but the slightly smaller screen size really makes for a sharper image) lol but it duz my head in that we keep adding the HD prefix to things (Especially gameloft lol) when its just not true Mabe we should call it HSD lol
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480x800 is no where near a high definition resoulution but more to the point even if someone made a device with a high enough resolution 1200x900 for example it still wudnt be HD unless the screen was interlaced or progressivly scanned which there not anyway lol
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Wrong, it is progressive. Interlacing would be a monumentally stupid thing to do on a portable device. The only reason it is still here (aside from historic reasons) is to carry higher res on less analog bandwidth.
ALL images displayed on an lcd are progressive in the end. Lcd panels are progressive scan only AFAIK except maybe in rare cases. But that would require two matrices.
Sorry for eventual typos. I typed this on my hero ...soft keyboards suck.
-p13
guys!!!!!!
HTC Dragon is on its way soon! i guess it will be with a bigger screen too.
Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
Video Teaser for HD Mini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtCGiykDW0
heh, it has wm 6.5.3
EddyOS said:
Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
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It have WM7 or update confirmation?.....no?.....no thanks, but i will not buy it, or tell someone to get it!
HD mini...
What makes the HD2 interesting is its big size, so why would you want a smaller one?
Different product altogether.
HVGA 320x480 after using an HD2 - no thanks.
When I first got thinking about buying an HD2 I was worried that I might not like such a big bulky screen.
Now - well you'd have to "pry it from my cold dead hands"
Massive Impact, Sensible Size
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Suggesting what they did with HD2 was not sensible then? LOL!!!
I actually like it. While I love my HD2, I don't do anything multimedia-ish on it and so a smaller screen wouldn't bother me..in fact I would prefer a smaller form factor...
but...no camera flash for one thing, slower processor for another.....
I'll wait for the HTC Obsession
EDIT : sorry...the 'rumoured' HTC Obsession
Hi!
Just two questions after I have seen several photos of the new HD Mini (for example on neowin.net):
1. Is it possible to get exactly this colorful wallpaper as background image for the HD2 somewhere?
2. Does the HD Mini still have a page with DirectLinks/QuickLinks?
I mean the HD2 has 9 DirectLinks on its HomeScreen (by default, I know, and by applying some Mods it can be extended to even 75 DirectLinks) when sliding the finger from the bottom up. But I was not able to see such DirectLinks for applications or contacts on any of the images of the HD Mini.
Thanks in advance for your help!
DotWin
i have the hd2 and i will buy this also it is very brilliant device and small
Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.
as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
gsvnet said:
Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.
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kudos and well said - with no hard keyboard it comes down to the onscreen kb. i played with a hd2 and it's nice, mostly because of capacitance though - i hate my hd kb - maybe small onscreen kb with capacitance may work?
I too was very interested when I heard of the HD Mini but ultimately agree with all of the above posts. Just falls short in terms of size (and looks). I use my Touch HD as much for its PDA abilities as I do telecommumications. Fits my hand like a glove and I am happy using with either one handed or two. Give me the chance of a HD2 in the 3.8 screen Touch HD chassis and I would buy one now.
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as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2
HD Mini is for people who needs small WM phones, compared to the "big" HD2, anyway I like the backplate
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as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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I've allready pre-ordered one from here.
price: €389
arrival date: april 2nd 2010
Grtz,
Degake
hoss_n2 said:
diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2
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Have to agree with this and many other postings here; The Mini just falls short in looks, internal hardware specs, and the relatively small screen. What is needed is something like the HTC Desire (with WinMo) and it seems that the 'Diamond 3' will pretty much be this.
their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...
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their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...
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to make sense 2.5 working that fast they needed to make the processor scales graphics to a low resolution ,in this case 480x320
so guys, its been announced....the hd2 has been shrunk down in size. what are your thoughts?, do you new hd2 owners wish you had waited a while longer or are you happy with your king sized phone?.personally, id have got the larger model anyway, after owning a hd2(original) id never , or at least hope i never have to downsize again.is this new smaller size aimed for the ladies....? lol
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
HD2 > HD Mini.
I would like a smaller HD2 though, with a 4-inch screen or something. Even 3.8-inch. Because using the HD2 with a single hand is a little bit to much work..
But the HD Mini goes TO far. 3.2 inch screen is to small.
it is not the same. slower cpu, less ram. what makes You think it's the same but smaller???
old news, I posted about this yesterday...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634015
like the look but the HD2 owns it!!!
and my big question with this is....
why id it called a touch "HD" mini when sht screen is far from HD...
i know some will read that wrong and say that the hd2 isnt 720p or 1080p HD and all that but i mean in the broadest terms..
High Defenition... is HVGA High Defenition? me thinks not lol.
aikon359 said:
and my big question with this is....
why id it called a touch "HD" mini when sht screen is far from HD...
i know some will read that wrong and say that the hd2 isnt 720p or 1080p HD and all that but i mean in the broadest terms..
High Defenition... is HVGA High Defenition? me thinks not lol.
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I agree... less screen, less cpu, less RAM, less ROM, hd2 mini? more of a hd1 mini.....
Well, it is called HTC HD mini, not HTC HD2 mini ...
Never heard of a WinMo HVGA device before... is this new in 6.5.3? If so, what about app compatibility? How many apps work on this new resolution?
Why make an HD-mini, when it is not much different from the Diamond2?
HD-Mini: more memory, slightly faster processor.
Diamond2: Better screen resolution.
Found some interesting stuff here, for example it is running WinMo build 23101.
I like my hd2 very much, why make it mini.
For those who like mini, take a mini
kk
Jack E said:
Found some interesting stuff here, for example it is running WinMo build 23101.
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What is the dude in the video even doing? I got so angry at him watching the first ~2 minutes that I just couldn't continue.
Noticed the start button is not present anymore.... (Since there is a start button and back already i assumed so no need to have them on the softkeys)only 2 softkeys on the taskbar each time... cleaner look i think. better than the 6.5.3 currently which would have 5 softkey biuttons most of the time... anybody know how we can do this???
hope i never have to downsize...but it seem the hd2 will be the last big phone..i hope not..
Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
Sorry for this thread again in another forum
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Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
Sorry for this thread again in another forum
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Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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I meant on Windows Mobile
The hardware in the photon isn't a snapdragon and MS has explicitly said that WP7 is currently only possible on snapdragons (driver concerns). So no, I don't think it will be possible to put WP7 on it.
I agree it's an interesting choice, but until we know if WP7 can run on devices under 1Ghz, we won't know if that's why they did it.
Otherwise though, why downgrade from VGA? I suppose so they could share panels with the Android devices which are mostly HVGA.
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Screen resolution has no impact on capacitive sensing resolution; the sensing resolution of capacitive screens is far coarser than 320x480.
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swanga said:
HVGA is perfect for 3 inch capacitive screens.
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I agree and I hope the 3 party applications will work well. Let's see.