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Poor WiFi Performance on HTC Fuze (RSS, Orb)

I have had two different HTC Fuze devices now and have noticed that the WiFi performance seems to be rather slow. I have a 54mbps wireless network setup I believe (I use wired Gigabit ethernet for my PCs, WHS & Media Streamer), yet the only difference in speeds I notice between my WiFi network and AT&T's 3G seem to be better latency on WiFi. I have tried all 3 different WiFi settings in Windows Mobile, Performance/Balanced/BatterySave, and they don't seem to make much difference.
Now, as far as Opera Mobile goes, the poor speed can probably be attributed to the browser's rendering engine and the device's hardware, but my real complaint here is with the RSS reader I use, Spb Insight. I have 58 feeds set up, and it took it about 30-35 minutes to download 42.7~ MB of data over my WiFi network. I realize this isn't too bad, all things considered, but my Comcast cable connection is 20 mbps downlink, and if I were to download 42 megs of data on my desktop PC, we'd be looking at around 21 seconds (max transfer of ~2.11 MB/sec, tested on GigaNews USENET servers).
So my question is, assuming the bottleneck isn't the Spb Insight RSS Reader software, which I don't think it is, are there any registry changes/hacks or software I can use to get a bit better speed out of the Fuze's WiFi radio? I am running the stock AT&T ROM with the workaround that bypasses the AT&T BloatWare Install and my radio is stock also. I did a few forum searches and didn't come up with much of anything, and nothing Fuze related.
Is anyone else noticing slower-than-expected/desired WiFi speeds on their Fuze?
-- As an aside, I noted earlier I have a Media Streamer box - basically a dedicated small Shuttle brand PC box that I stuck a dual-core Celeron into that's only function is to transcode & stream videos via the Orb Software. I used a Seinfeld episode xvid @ 576x432 resolution that plays near-perfect, a frame-skip here and there (and looks gorgeous, I might add) on the Fuze using CorePlayer v1.2.5, but when I stream those same videos off my streamer box (transcoded into WMV) using Orb over WiFi, they're nearly unwatchable from all the hiccups and audio sync issues. I haven't even bothered trying it using 3G, since it can't even manage it over wireless. These videos streamed without any issue to my Archos 5 60GB Internet Media Tablet and Nokia N810 IT, both devices I've since sold, as the HTC Fuze replaces both without much issue, although the 600MHz ARM Cortex A8 + Graphics Chip in the Archos was a monster, eating webpages for breakfast & outputting 720p video to HDTV with nary a frameskip to be seen. They need to get those Cortex procs into mobile phones ASAP.
In any case, it seems like the WiFi is hindering me in this regard as well and I'd very much like to get this all ironed out so I can rest easy knowing my Fuze does everything I want it to. Sorry for the long-winded post, and a big thank you to all the contributors here for the amazing wealth of knowledge on these forums.

Try to change your radio stack, check for WLAN setup utilities to lock your transfer speed at 54 and try to make a WiFi connection with your PC to make sure it is not your router who makes lags

I noticed that the range of the Fuze's wi-fi is very limited. Anyone else notice this??

Having only used the Sprint TP, I didn't notice any specific issues with WiFi. Have you verified that all of the connection settings are properly configured? (wifi connects to internet instead of work network and your applications are set to use 'the internet' instead of 'MEdia Net') Then again, the stock Fuze ROM could very well just suck as most ATT HTC ROMs usually do

When doing your speed tests - use speak easy

Far better than the apps on the market. It gives real speed of your web connection. I was getting 1.2 -1.5 down on the speed test app when http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ was giving me 4.1ish.

The speedtest.net app has been extremely unreliable for me. When I use it I get a download speed of 800k. If i use a browser based test even from speedtest.net I get 3mbps. The app also lowers my wifi speeds from 5.2mbps to about 3-4. Ping times are also affected.

use www.testmy.net for accurate tests. Make sure you select the mobile tests

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use www.testmy.net for accurate tests. Make sure you select the mobile tests
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Just ran this on my 3GS and I get 3.3mbps on wifi which is impossible considering speedtest.net shows a 30mbps down connection
EDIT : Speak Easy also reports around 30mbps, tried running TestMy on my wired computer and it runs around 14mbps, It seems crippled.

neer2005 said:
Just ran this on my 3GS and I get 3.3mbps on wifi which is impossible considering speedtest.net shows a 30mbps down connection
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You ran the Speedtest.net on your computer. It will be much slower on the 3GS.
Also, when using the test suite, make sure you select the mobile version, www.testmy.net/mobile
Also select the AUTO option. For comparison, my Verizon Fios connection get 28MB/s download and 27MB/s upload over my laptop using wireless-N 5GHz. Testmy.net gives me the same readings (this is with a XBOX 360 in the background playing COD: Black Ops (hardwired), and my wife upstairs on her laptop playing Cafe' World on the same network band). With nothing else running, my connection is usually spot on 35/35. On my Evo, I get 7.7Mbps download speed. Wireless N but at the 2.4GHz radio. I think when I had my 3GS it was about the same on the Wireless G.
Using the Speedtest app on my phone, I get about 13 downl and 7 up...

1BadHEMI said:
You ran the Speedtest.net on your computer. It will be much slower on the 3GS.
Also, when using the test suite, make sure you select the mobile version, www.testmy.net/mobile
Also select the AUTO option. For comparison, my Verizon Fios connection get 28MB/s download and 27MB/s upload over my laptop using wireless-N 5GHz. Testmy.net gives me the same readings (this is with a XBOX 360 in the background playing COD: Black Ops (hardwired), and my wife upstairs on her laptop playing Cafe' World on the same network band). With nothing else running, my connection is usually spot on 35/35. On my Evo, I get 7.7Mbps download speed. Wireless N but at the 2.4GHz radio. I think when I had my 3GS it was about the same on the Wireless G.
Using the Speedtest app on my phone, I get about 13 downl and 7 up...
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Yeah on Speedtest.net app on my iphone on Verizon FiOS I get around 18mbps down with the stock wireless G router. I tried TestMy and it shows a 3.3mbps connection on my iPhone. Both Speedtest and SpeakEasy show a 30mbps down on the wired desktop while TestMy shows only 14down its weird.

Performance lower with a 3G connection active??

Hi,
Has anyone observed lower overall perfomance of the tab while 3G connection is active? I was supprised to notice that flash videos start to stutter on a 3g connection while they play perfectly smooth when I am on the WiFi. Also the workspaces scrolling is not as smooth as on the WiFi. In case of Flash videos on the web it's not an issue of slower buffering because I wait until it's buffered. Also at home I share a 3G connection from the same operator over a WIFI network (a 3G modem is plugged into a TP-Link WiFi router) so the speeds are exactly the same.
Has anyone experienced anything like that?
My tablet is an European 3G-enabled Galaxy Tab 10.1 White with 16GB of storage.

[Q] Wifi Streaming Lags

Guys
I have not been able to stream 5 secs of the transformer video or any youtube video without significant stutter and lag. I have plenty of speed with my home wifi as far as i know. I have 20+mbs with Comcast and never have issues with my wifi.
what could be wrong...is it my N7 or my router?

I'm so happy someone else has this issue. Well not happy but happy to know I'm not the only one. I have 30+ download on my home WiFi and it lags when I try to watch YouTube also. Its very annoying. It can't be my WiFi because I have tried several other devices and they work great. Hopefully an update will come and fix soon because I'm an avid youtuber. But yeah your not the only one man.
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I was having a issue watching transformers as well, I also rented a movie using my credit and never finished it because of lag.
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try do a speed test see what's the through put you get on your device. Also, in the wifi setting, see at what speed you are connecting to your wifi router.

Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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feelinfroggy23 said:
Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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yea, doesn't seem like any problem with your connection. Did you try streaming via other apps such as hulu or only lags in youtube?
Some thing you can try:
1. wipe youtube memory and try it again. You can even try uninstall it and download a fresh copy from the market. If still lags, try #2
2. install the flash apk and try streaming youtube via another browser such as Dolphin HD and see how it works out.

what would you suggest I use for a speed test?

using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
and
4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps

Rugged96 said:
using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
and
4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps
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If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.

Last night I was on Netflix watching Weeds and the only time there were any hiccups was at the beginning of the episode when Netflix was adjusting the quality to my internet connection. By the end of the theme song there was no noticeable stutters and I believe it had upgraded to HD 720p. So Netflix seems to not be a problem.
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If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.

Rugged96 said:
oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.
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silvscorp said:
If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.

I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?

Rugged96 said:
My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.
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Something is definitely wrong with your wifi router.
Revelant said:
I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?
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Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.

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Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.
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I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?

Revelant said:
I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?
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I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)

I won't be able to deconstruct my router until later tonight. I am working from home and need to stay focused....

silvscorp said:
I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)
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So it is a limitation of the physical hardware...That is good to know. I was worried that something was wrong with my tablet.
Thanks!

Man that is BS!!!! Your telling Me I can't watch an HD movie on YouTube because the tablet went let me??? Why do they even have the option to go HD then? My internet pushes out 35mbps. That should be more then enough to run HD.
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No problems here. Watched transformers Friday night with no problem. Sunday my wife used the timewarner app to watch NASCAR. I have even used the watch ESPN with no problems tethering from HOX. Not saying its not your N7 but it sounds like a problem with your network. Unplug cable modem for a min or do a reset through the GUI. Maybe reset the router while at it.
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Anyone streaming 4k LOCAL content (videos and moonlight gaming) without issue?

I bought a 4k TV for my bedroom, and am having difficulty getting a quality LOCAL connection from my router to my ShieldTV and am questioning if the ShieldTV's wifi module/antenna is the weak link. When I stream 4k videos, it always buffers, glitches badly, audio messes up, and when i try to game it lags pretty far behind despite moonlight saying i have low latency. So I am curious if anyone has this working without buffering or lag or glitches. If you have it working, please reply with your setup and anything you had to do, even if you dont know how to help me, below is a short explanation of my troubles.
Im in a (wifi congested) apartment complex, my apartment layout is basically:
Living room|Kitchen|Bedroom.
It's 2 walls and 23ish feet between my router and bedroom spot. There is only one cable spot (where my modem and router are) and zero jacks for Ethernet.
I originally thought my Netgear Nighthawk R8000, could push the signal well enough wirelessly, as everything is 5ghz AC and I only have 1 other device on it (also 5ghz ac), but I was only seeing 100-300mbps.
I have put the shieldTV next to my router and is works perfectly via lan, so I know it isnt a performance issue of the server (desktop) or shieldtv and only a question of getting a good signal.
So I just bought powerline adapters Trendnet TPL-421E2K, which were some of the best I could find in multiple reviews, and those perform roughly the same. If I put them right next to each other on the same wall, i get 600+mbps, but the max i got with them between rooms is 200mps, and thats with trying all the outlets and removing anything that could interfere. Guess wiring just sucks.
I am pretty much out of realistic ideas on how to make this work. The obvious, but not realistic solution is running 20ft of ethernet on my floor or taped to the ceiling.. But I am starting to wonder if the shieldTV just has crappy wifi and i'll never get this working.

Are you checking your speed with speedtest? I play 4k content on the fly and it works, unless bitrate is over 50, then it sometimes goes wrong.

Kajman said:
Are you checking your speed with speedtest? I play 4k content on the fly and it works, unless bitrate is over 50, then it sometimes goes wrong.
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Speedtest checks your ISP speed. I am using a an app called "wifi speed test" that allows you to test your local internet speeds.

test878 said:
Im in a (wifi congested) apartment complex, my apartment layout is basically:
I originally thought my Netgear Nighthawk R8000, could push the signal well enough wirelessly, as everything is 5ghz AC and I only have 1 other device on it (also 5ghz ac), but I was only seeing 100-300mbps.
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All of this
5GHz degrades faster than 2.4GHz due to distance / obstacles. Use 2.4GHz (not that this will help because of below)
Wifi is a shared, collision based medium. High density domestic wifi environment means highly variable latency, throughput.
4K uses a **** load of bandwidth
NVidia Shield streaming appears to me very latency and bandwidth sensitive (see above 3 points).
Sorry ethernet or bust for 4K ... I couldn't get it stable using Wifi in the same room even without wifi congestion.