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Controller for the Hermes!

Now that i brought many of you since you thought it exists that was my question. I really want to but roms and games on my ppc but im sorta afraid of over pushing the buttons and eventually wearing them down significantly.
Has any ever tryed this before? Or know where these may be sold?

what a waste of space....

Austinsync - is it really necessary for you to be a prick all the time?
If you have nothing useful to say, ignore the thread and keep your short-tempered, obnoxious opinions to your self - I am sick of reading posts by you that are either unhelpful or downright vitriolic. It's unnecessary and does nothing to improve the either the quality of poeple's posts or make them read anything.
And to answer the OP's question, there is a bluetooth games controller - never tried it with a hermes and would be interested to hear from someone who has.
Have a look here
Cheers,
Smiffy.

here here lordsmiff ......
n00b bashin is not a sport.
as Said above if you don't like the thread don't post !

yea its called a flamer, people like this on a gaming forum i am a member of are banned and locked. i wish that would have to assholes here also.
thank you for the bluetooth controller link, ill for sure check it out.

I agree with some of the posters here that Austinsync's comment is un-called for. I know you do not tolerate some kinds of questions well Austinsync, but this particular Hermes board has remained fairly flaming/sarcasm free (by comparison to the upgading board for example).
So
Do not reply to a post if you cannot do one of the following:
Reply with the knowledge you undoubtedly have
Reply with guidance on how to use the forum if it's a new poster
Report the the post if you think it is "unworthy" of the forum
Obnoxious, rude, overly sarcastic comments and flaming will be met with a ban in future (of varying length) for any user who ignores this guidance and site rules.
Mike

I agree. This whole XDA Dev forum is being spoilt by lack of tolerance by some . All of us were new at this once and although there may well be some real offenders (who fail to take even basic advice from the stickies) I think we should leave it to the moderators to 'address' these people.
Mike (Channon) is there no way of you moderators classifying each post so that the 'less helpful ones' are normally not shown when main stream browsers view the posts? This may be a Forum capability that the server software lacks but it would be very useful especially in some of the rather long posts where getting to the detail can take so very long because of poor posts by some.
A filter to take out the 'less than helpful' would be really good - if used carefully.
Good luck....

tony.wheeler said:
I agree. This whole XDA Dev forum is being spoilt by lack of tolerance by some . All of us were new at this once and although there may well be some real offenders (who fail to take even basic advice from the stickies) I think we should leave it to the moderators to 'address' these people.
Mike (Channon) is there no way of you moderators classifying each post so that the 'less helpful ones' are normally not shown when main stream browsers view the posts? This may be a Forum capability that the server software lacks but it would be very useful especially in some of the rather long posts where getting to the detail can take so very long because of poor posts by some.
A filter to take out the 'less than helpful' would be really good - if used carefully.
Good luck....
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Hi Tony
There is no automatic facility for this. There can be filters for certain words but they don't work very well and posters can avoid them by deliberate mis-spellings etc. The odd swear word may be ok in the eyes of some provided it is not used as a means to abuse fellow members.
As far as avoiding the general membership seeing useless or abusive posts goes, there is no immediate way of doing this. Only when a Mod or Admin spots something or it is reported does it get moderated. The prevailing feeling in Mod/Admin circles is to try to hit a balance of freedom of expression against perfect manners and etiquette. So, of course, we will never keep everyone happy or even most members happy. Both those that hate noob posts and those that like gentle politeness will not be satisfied as we hover around the middle between the two extremes. Despite this, I feel it is the correct approach. So as above when we get a post that falls the wrong side of the line, I tend to leave it for all to see but also post the condemnation of it as well. Other moderators may delete the post. This can cause problems as the following posts from members can tend look odd as they appear to be replying to something that no longer exists. (I may obscure flagrant swearing however).
On the whole this particular Hermes board has been friendly. Bigger problems come in upgrading when you have the inevitable conflict between Noobs trying to upgrade and Gurus trying to develop ROMs- the clash of the Tytns as I like to think of it The true Gurus tend to keep out of this as they are the ones that originally made it possible to cook the ROMs and their task was over a long time ago. They are waiting to get their teeth into newly released devices and kick off another round of development. The cycle will always end though, at the stage where Noobs conflict with ROM Gurus - and that is where we are at now, made worse of course by the doubling in members on-line at any one time since last year.
Mike

This is a pretty nice place overall. Nicely run, too.
Anyway, the bluetooth controller listed above looks pretty darn cool. Too bad it's so expensive.

Is there any way to get a normal usb controller, coupled with a usb adaptor to run on the hermes? I mean... i have NO idea about how drivers work on the hermes... So this whole idea could be rediculous... but if it gets the gears in the head spinning... why not?
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Imonstrous said:
Is there any way to get a normal usb controller, coupled with a usb adaptor to run on the hermes? I mean... i have NO idea about how drivers work on the hermes... So this whole idea could be rediculous... but if it gets the gears in the head spinning... why not?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that would require USB-host functionality, which HTC has been studiously ignoring for quite a while now.

Lordsmiff said:
And to answer the OP's question, there is a bluetooth games controller - never tried it with a hermes and would be interested to hear from someone who has.
Have a look here
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I've ordered one to try so ill drop back and let you know how it goes (if it does).. but it may take a few days/weeks to arrive as its shipping form Australia to the UK. I only found very few places selling them and the Aus one worked out cheaper than one that looked to be in the UK (but wasnt very clear at all)

Is Athena as a good phone? Re-polled.

The reason for this repoll is obvious. As suggested by other posters in a previous similar thread widely thought to be biased, misleading, and deceitful, this poll is meant to get a better picture on how happy folks are with using Athena to make phone related call, taking into accounts its size, the signal reception strenth, the possibility of using bluetooth headset, the contact data maintenance features, the voice calling ability, the video call ability, the VOIP call ability, the ability to use a single SIM for phone as well as data on one single device, and any other phone related considerations you think are relevant.
The answers are:
A. Outstanding
B. Above Average
C. Average
D. Below Average
E. Fail.
Thank you for your vote.

You're fast, mate! . Like I said, I use LG Style I, so the size does'nt really matter. No question it is one of the best phones I have.

I'm still casting the same vote, which is above average.

you cant re write history to suit your sad agendas!
you ALL VOTED in the original poll and because you didnt like the results you are now re polling to try and get the results you want!
How deceitful and sad is that
QUOTE:eaglesteve My okay really means it may not be the best phone in the world, but it's still very good. I read post 1 and interpret the meaning differntly from spacecat. Anyway, why not you start a new poll?
I would love to know what kind of deluded person thinks that OKAY = VERY GOOD!
OKAY= OKAY
VERY GOOD = VERY GOOD
OKAY to anyone who is sane and rational means average neither good nor bad.
Eagle Steve Poll ONLY below
If your missus said you were an OKAY SHAG would you think that you were
1. A Great Lover
2.An Average Lover, pleasant enough but not mindlblowing in any sense
3. Crap
I reckon old eagle is pretty average and has to convince himself that this means VERY GOOD!

Enough pissing contest and argument on your thread already. Your post needs no response. Just let the voters tell us their own meaning of okay. For me it means satisfactory and good. For you it may mean not bad but also not good at all. Let the people decide, okay?

eaglesteve said:
Enough pissing contest and argument on your thread already. Your post needs no response. Just let the voters tell us their own meaning of okay. For me it means satisfactory and good. For you it may mean not bad but also not good at all. Let the people decide, okay?
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NAh lets argue about it!
ps I LOVE the way YOU NEVER ANSWER A QUESTION!
Why did YOU VOTE in a poll YOU thought was deceitful? That makes YOU a FOOL doesnt it?

Much better poll. Spacecat, you are a trip.

techntrek said:
Much better poll. Spacecat, you are a trip.
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yeah i know!

spacecat.. get a life. athenalover: who the hell cares what others thinks about the Athena?!? The immense insight and information thats available to us on this forum helps everyone to get their hands on the gear that suits their purpose the best, and to get it working the way it should from the beginning!
That does not include these kinds of threads though.. come on guys read a page on the xda-wiki and learn something for Christs sake ;-)

[email protected] said:
spacecat.. get a life. athenalover: who the hell cares what others thinks about the Athena?!? The immense insight and information thats available to us on this forum helps everyone to get their hands on the gear that suits their purpose the best, and to get it working the way it should from the beginning!
That does not include these kinds of threads though.. come on guys read a page on the xda-wiki and learn something for Christs sake ;-)
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for F**k sake mate some people just like to argue, why dont you take your own advice and ignore the thread...........

for ****s sake mate... I just did

"The reason for this repoll is obvious. As suggested by other posters in a previous similar thread widely thought to be biased, misleading, and deceitful, this poll is meant to get a better picture on how happy folks are with using Athena to make phone related call, taking into accounts its size, the signal reception strenth, the possibility of using bluetooth headset, the contact data maintenance features, the voice calling ability, the video call ability, the VOIP call ability, the ability to use a single SIM for phone as well as data on one single device, and any other phone related considerations you think are relevant"
I think this thread is a bit redundant, and your attempt at being unbiased fails on the basis that the only negative you mention in your salutation is 'its size' - which does not really hold sway against the myriad positve features you then go on to describe. The fact that your name is Athenalover doesn't help either.
Either way I think the consensus has been reached: whether or not the questions in the Spacecat's poll were leading the points brought up in the thread more than answered what needed to be answered. Let's NOT have a recount. Let's just accept that for some people the phone is too big and for some it's fine. Whether of not you choose to wear the Athena in a holster, in your pocket, with a bluetooth headset, wired headset or in a bumbag the fact is it's your property and you're obviously happy using it. I found it a bit big so I got something a bit smaller.
Athenalover, don't try to be a martyr. The poll was never going anywhere anyway: it's on an Athena forum for God's sake so the only people who will be watching the forum will be A) people who own an Athena and B)people who owned one and got rid of it. The people who got rid of it probably found it too big so will argue vehemently that it's too big; the people who still own one and enjoy it obviously DON'T find it too big and will argue vehemently that it's not too big if you use it like they do.
With all due respect this thread seems headed for no-where

like I said

Seems history has been re-written, and this poll shows its just fine or better for most people.

leoni1980 said:
"The reason for this repoll is obvious. As suggested by other posters in a previous similar thread widely thought to be biased, misleading, and deceitful, this poll is meant to get a better picture on how happy folks are with using Athena to make phone related call, taking into accounts its size, the signal reception strenth, the possibility of using bluetooth headset, the contact data maintenance features, the voice calling ability, the video call ability, the VOIP call ability, the ability to use a single SIM for phone as well as data on one single device, and any other phone related considerations you think are relevant"
I think this thread is a bit redundant, and your attempt at being unbiased fails on the basis that the only negative you mention in your salutation is 'its size' - which does not really hold sway against the myriad positve features you then go on to describe. The fact that your name is Athenalover doesn't help either.
Either way I think the consensus has been reached: whether or not the questions in the Spacecat's poll were leading the points brought up in the thread more than answered what needed to be answered. Let's NOT have a recount. Let's just accept that for some people the phone is too big and for some it's fine. Whether of not you choose to wear the Athena in a holster, in your pocket, with a bluetooth headset, wired headset or in a bumbag the fact is it's your property and you're obviously happy using it. I found it a bit big so I got something a bit smaller.
Athenalover, don't try to be a martyr. The poll was never going anywhere anyway: it's on an Athena forum for God's sake so the only people who will be watching the forum will be A) people who own an Athena and B)people who owned one and got rid of it. The people who got rid of it probably found it too big so will argue vehemently that it's too big; the people who still own one and enjoy it obviously DON'T find it too big and will argue vehemently that it's not too big if you use it like they do.
With all due respect this thread seems headed for no-where
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I don't deny that I just love this device. I hope you allow me that freedom
My post #1 has only listed examples of phone related features, but also said that you should take into account anything else that you consider are relevant at the end of my sentense. Can't you read?
If it seems headed for no-where, you must be blind. I think it gives those people who voted okay (the meaning of which is under dispute) a chance to tell us what their intention is, rather than taking all the bull**** interpretation from you and spacecat.
The only "consensus" is between you and spacecat. Nobody else is willing to accept the crap interpretation of result he claims the poll shows.
The only negative you can think of is the size and the absurd claim that it can only be carried with a back pack, and your adsurd claim that bluetooth is not practical. If you do not know how to properly use a device, don't **** on it, but examine your own self and attitude.

leoni1980 said:
I think this thread is a bit redundant, and your attempt at being unbiased fails on the basis that the only negative you mention in your salutation is 'its size' - which does not really hold sway against the myriad positve features you then go on to describe. The fact that your name is Athenalover doesn't help either.
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lol Guess what ? Don't agree. =P I for one voted AND THEN read the posts. And yes, the questions really are, this time around, in no way tendencious.
And well, one can only observe that the votes seem to go a very different way...
Even if this thread doesn't turn into a pugila, I say let's see where it goes.

For Spacecat and Leoni especially, I would like to show you that Athena is not in the same category of portability as eee PC. It is no difference carrying this or a smaller phone.
See this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1835826#post1835826

As some other users said I own the LG Style-i so I carry my Athena hanging in my belt... so the size is not a problem for me neither.
In this condition I consider athena Above the Average as phone.

athenalover said:
I don't deny that I just love this device. I hope you allow me that freedom
My post #1 has only listed examples of phone related features, but also said that you should take into account anything else that you consider are relevant at the end of my sentense. Can't you read?
If it seems headed for no-where, you must be blind. I think it gives those people who voted okay (the meaning of which is under dispute) a chance to tell us what their intention is, rather than taking all the bull**** interpretation from you and spacecat.
The only "consensus" is between you and spacecat. Nobody else is willing to accept the crap interpretation of result he claims the poll shows.
The only negative you can think of is the size and the absurd claim that it can only be carried with a back pack, and your adsurd claim that bluetooth is not practical. If you do not know how to properly use a device, don't **** on it, but examine your own self and attitude.
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if you don't like his interpretation don't get wound up about it. I made my points quite eloquently, i am fair in my points, being that i owned an athena and don't have a reason to either hate it or love it. To say that it is absurd to find bluetooth inconvenient is a bit of a sweeping statement since some people prefer to use a handset and not have microwaves flowing through their heads all day. I didn't know if i'd like the size of the athena and i was perfectly aware of its features however it was a contract upgrade and cost very little so i thought i'd like to try it. I only carried it in a bag when i had a bluetooth keyboard, often i would carry it in my pocket though at all times i was aware of it and concerned about breaking the screen. Despite this i happen to prefer using a bag to a holster given the option.. Please don't compare me with other people just because i'm not 100 percent in the athena fan club, i make fair assessments based on my personal experience, you however seem like an illiterate and narrow-minded wally (forgive me if i am mistaken). Hopefully some of the contributors to this thread have a little more common sense and fair mindedness. If they don't then what's the point of this poll and this thread generally?

athenalover said:
I don't deny that I just love this device. I hope you allow me that freedom
My post #1 has only listed examples of phone related features, but also said that you should take into account anything else that you consider are relevant at the end of my sentense. Can't you read?
If it seems headed for no-where, you must be blind. I think it gives those people who voted okay (the meaning of which is under dispute) a chance to tell us what their intention is, rather than taking all the bull**** interpretation from you and spacecat.
The only "consensus" is between you and spacecat. Nobody else is willing to accept the crap interpretation of result he claims the poll shows.
The only negative you can think of is the size and the absurd claim that it can only be carried with a back pack, and your adsurd claim that bluetooth is not practical. If you do not know how to properly use a device, don't **** on it, but examine your own self and attitude.
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if you don't like his interpretation don't get wound up about it. I made my points quite eloquently, i am fair in my points, being that i owned an athena and don't have a reason to either hate it or love it. To say that it is absurd to find bluetooth inconvenient is a bit of a sweeping statement since some people prefer to use a handset and not have microwaves flowing through their heads all day. I didn't know if i'd like the size of the athena and i was perfectly aware of its features however it was a contract upgrade and cost very little so i thought i'd like to try it. I only carried it in a bag when i had a bluetooth keyboard, often i would carry it in my pocket though at all times i was aware of it and concerned about breaking the screen. Despite this i happen to prefer using a bag to a holster given the option.. Please don't compare me with other people just because i'm not 100 percent in the athena fan club, i make fair assessments based on my personal experience, you however seem like an illiterate and narrow-minded wally (forgive me if i am mistaken). Hopefully some of the contributors to this thread have a little more common sense and fair mindedness. If they don't then what's the point of this poll and this thread generally?

Smear Campaign against HD2 + Windows Mobile

Dear XDA members,
I am sure you have all observed the slew of attacks that are being perpetuated against the HD2 specifically, and the Windows Mobile OS generally. You have all read & responded to these people and might have observed the peculiar bands of Senior/Junior Members -whose too RECENT joining date is a clue- simultaneously bashing the HD2 and praising the iPhone, thwarting our delight in buying and using HTC's fine products which we have all known, used, and enjoyed for nearly a decade now.
You have all noticed this sudden but uniform "flame war", I know because I have; and you have all observed Genuine XDA members being rallied and engaged in mass, uniform, and disdainful complaining about WinMo and HTC. While it is our reasonable right to address HTC & MS with our problems, we must conduct our messages (and ourselves) in a civilized manner.
I only hope to remind you to be careful and not fall into this trap.
There IS a smear-campaign going on against both the HD2 and Windows Mobile. In truth, I am aware of several people whose primary profession is to perpetuate Internet propaganda, especially in active forums, blogs, and review sites. These individuals sell their services to companies & other individuals alike. They steal from us our brotherly spirit with their flame wars, and they feed us false information about exaggerated faults in our expensive gadgets.
In reality, all mobile devices have their faults; whether it be an unfriendly UI, lack of basic but important functionalities, erratic behaviors, etc...
iPhones, Androids, Nokias, and Winows Phones... we have all used them; we have each decided which best suits our needs, and we have each purchased what we judged best. Let no one criticize your choice or undermine your ability to decide for yourself! We are not here to measure which phone is best, we are here because we have purchased the best, and still, wish to improve it or customize it or even re-invent it!
Cheers

well i switched from the iphone to the hd2 and i don't think i'll be switching back anytime soon unless iphone fixes its major flaws...
do you know that iphone doesn't support multi-tasking?
what a deal breaker!

jeRrRKKKK said:
well i switched from the iphone to the hd2 and i don't think i'll be switching back anytime soon unless iphone fixes its major flaws...
do you know that iphone doesn't support multi-tasking?
what a deal breaker!
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LOL... I know mate, I gave mine away as a gift after one month! Its not for me at all and my personal, unquestionable preference is WinMo. I travel lots and need a Business phone: auther & edit documents, presentations, do my spreadsheet calculations, cut & paste accross running apps, make PDFs and fax them away, access my exchange email, use my digital certificates for security, etc... For me, personally, the iPhone was a delightful multimedia experience, but it just doesn't cut it!

shirreer said:
Dear XDA members,
I am sure you have all observed the slew of attacks that are being perpetuated against the HD2 specifically, and the Windows Mobile OS generally. You have all read & responded to these people and might have observed the peculiar bands of Senior/Junior Members -whose too RECENT joining date is a clue- simultaneously bashing the HD2 and praising the iPhone, thwarting our delight in buying and using HTC's fine products which we have all known, used, and enjoyed for nearly a decade now.
You have all noticed this sudden but uniform "flame war", I know because I have; and you have all observed Genuine XDA members being rallied and engaged in mass, uniform, and disdainful complaining about WinMo and HTC. While it is our reasonable right to address HTC & MS with our problems, we must conduct our messages (and ourselves) in a civilized manner.
I only hope to remind you to be careful and not fall into this trap.
There IS a smear-campaign going on against both the HD2 and Windows Mobile. In truth, I am aware of several people whose primary profession is to perpetuate Internet propaganda, especially in active forums, blogs, and review sites. These individuals sell their services to companies & other individuals alike. They steal from us our brotherly spirit with their flame wars, and they feed us false information about exaggerated faults in our expensive gadgets.
In reality, all mobile devices have their faults; whether it be an unfriendly UI, lack of basic but important functionalities, erratic behaviors, etc...
iPhones, Androids, Nokias, and Winows Phones... we have all used them; we have each decided which best suits our needs, and we have each purchased what we judged best. Let no one criticize your choice or undermine your ability to decide for yourself! We are not here to measure which phone is best, we are here because we have purchased the best, and still, wish to improve it or customize it or even re-invent it!
Cheers
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Mate you have too much free time on your hands to be writing a post of this nature.

Here Here!

Keep on looking behind you guys....they're coming. Keep those firewalls up to date and lock your windows!
Oh and don't forget your medication.

Regardless of whether it's a smear campaign or not, there is clearly a problem with trolls.
I don't believe that's a campaign, but the recent trend of bashing Windows Mobile is alarming.
No OS and no phone is perfect, yet only Windows Mobile gets bashed all the time - though others clearly have at least as many flaws.
That's really saddening.
The amount of "I sold my HD2" threads, that typically contain only FUD and don't try to help anyone, is alarming as well.
Regardless of whether this is a campaign or not, someone should really do something against this trend and the trolls, because it really hurts the quality of the forum.

Wow. You know it's quite scary to see what happens to people that spend too much time on a forum!! This isn't such an intense matter. It's supposed to be a forum for people to ask for help or If they chose so, to complain about or praise their damn phones. At the end of the day it's only a damn phone. If some "senior" members want to make it an exclusive "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it" forum, then why not create an exclusive area for you all to j££zz over your devices.
The majority of people here are normal guys who have a life and only come here to get help for their phone or let off some steam if what they spent 500 quid on turns out to be crap!

hawrai68 said:
Wow. You know it's quite scary to see what happens to people that spend too much time on a forum!! This isn't such an intense matter. It's supposed to be a forum for people to ask for help or If they chose so, to complain about or praise their damn phones. At the end of the day it's only a damn phone. If some "senior" members want to make it an exclusive "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it" forum, then why not create an exclusive area for you all to j££zz over your devices.
The majority of people here are normal guys who have a life and only come here to get help for their phone or let off some steam if what they spent 500 quid on turns out to be crap!
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+100 for you sir

I know I'm new here and basically just started posting but I have heavily modified my HD2. I'm in the usa and imported my HD2 from the UK. I dont even miss 3G...I just connect to WiFi everywhere I go anyway. I have had every iPhone since it came out in 07. 2G, 3G and finally the 3Gs. I switched to the HD2 because I wanted what the iPhone lacked. I even Jailbroke all my iphones and they still were not as good as this phone is. The iphone did a whole lot more once jailbroken; ie.. Theme, Tether, Multitask but it still wasnt enough for me. The iphone is completely 1 dimensional! I liked it for what it was, but I love this phone! and using this site made it that much better. So a huge shout out to all you devs out there! Bottom line is the iPhone just sucks and it is a Yuppy phone, everyone has one and they think they are sooooo cool that they have one. The HD2 is the best phone on the market. Hands down.

I've been using these things for years... and the more popular these devices get, the more accessible they are to the general public, the more people demand help or think they have a right to it...with trivial little things!
The iPhone is just for those sort of people. Thinking that they have an iPhone (which, OMG is a SMRT PHONE, I R A GEEK NOW! I R COOL) because it's what is 'trendy'. Not becuase they will even use a quarter of it's functionality!!!
I have watched the questions on these forums get dumber and dumber. They say there is no such thing as a dumb question... I really beg to differ. I see some doozies on here of late to the point when I have to convince myself that they are trolling....or i'll loose faith in humanity.
I'll stop here as I don't think I have a coherent argument or statement.
Thankyou for indulging me in my rant.
I'm going to go find some more iPhone zombies and make them jealous of my HD2....

I assume you are not "general public" but some deity with divine right to own a WM device over others?

hawrai68 said:
Wow. You know it's quite scary to see what happens to people that spend too much time on a forum!! This isn't such an intense matter. It's supposed to be a forum for people to ask for help or If they chose so, to complain about or praise their damn phones. At the end of the day it's only a damn phone. If some "senior" members want to make it an exclusive "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it" forum, then why not create an exclusive area for you all to j££zz over your devices.
The majority of people here are normal guys who have a life and only come here to get help for their phone or let off some steam if what they spent 500 quid on turns out to be crap!
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Awesome! *thumbs up*

hawrai68 said:
I assume you are not "general public" but some deity with divine right to own a WM device over others?
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LoL. You betcha, sunshine.
I'm gonna take EVERY oppertunity to laud it over anyone, cause my phone choice totally defines me and proves my worth to others, don't ya know...
Sheesh....

kruegz said:
cause my phone choice totally defines me and proves my worth to others, don't ya know...
Sheesh....
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hmmm scary. I would have thought there were slightly better ways to prove your worth to others than a mobile, but each to their own hey.

isn't this the same as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5121561

hawrai68 said:
Wow. You know it's quite scary to see what happens to people that spend too much time on a forum!! This isn't such an intense matter. It's supposed to be a forum for people to ask for help or If they chose so, to complain about or praise their damn phones. At the end of the day it's only a damn phone. If some "senior" members want to make it an exclusive "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it" forum, then why not create an exclusive area for you all to j££zz over your devices.
The majority of people here are normal guys who have a life and only come here to get help for their phone or let off some steam if what they spent 500 quid on turns out to be crap!
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VERY VERY wrong.
1) It happens almost never that someone creates a thread called "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it" though those people are definitely the majority here.
2) Why should there be an exclusive forum for people who love their devices, when people like you are allowed to create countless threads bashing those devices?
3) No, it's not okay to let off steam, unless it's within a thread that exists for this purpose (note: there should be max. one such thread!). Opening threads for things that have already been posted is not allowed, but that's exactly what you are doing!
So what's the conclusion?
1) We, who like our devices, don't go to iPhone forums and tell people that we hate iPhones. We don't because doing so is sick. However, lots of people in this forum come here to tell everyone how much they hate their HD2s. There's clearly something wrong!
2) Countless threads are created saying "I hate my HD2", though the haters clearly are a minority. What does that tell us about those people? Apart from the fact that it's not allowed to create new threads for things that are already there, we must also ask ourselves why people who like their devices don't feel the need to tell everyone, but people who don't like them must tell everyone. To me, that's a clear sign that there's something wrong with those haters or that there are some trolls here.
3) Threads that are created solely for the purpose of "letting steam off" do not help anyone! Of course people must be informed about flaws, BUT it doesn't help anyone when lots of threads are created for the sake of complaining about flaws that are already well-known. A thread must either inform or seek for a solution, threads created only in order to complain about or bash something are useless and hurt the quality of the forum.

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hmmm scary. I would have thought there were slightly better ways to prove your worth to others than a mobile, but each to their own hey.
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maati said:
VERY VERY wrong.
1) It happens almost never that someone creates a thread called "I love windows mobile and want to make love to it".
2) Why should there be an exclusive forum for people who love their devices, when people like you are allowed to create countless threads bashing those devices?
3) No, it's not okay to let off steam, unless it's within a thread that exists for this purpose (note: there should be max. one such thread!). Opening threads for things that have already been posted is not allowed, but that's exactly what you are doing!
So what's the conclusion?
1) We, who like our devices, don't go to iPhone forums and tell people that we hate iPhones. We don't because doing so is sick. However, lots of people in this forum come here to tell everyone how much they hate their HD2s. There's clearly something wrong!
2) Countless threads are created saying "I hate my HD2", though the haters clearly are a minority. What does that tell us about those people? Apart from the fact that it's not allowed to create new threads for things that are already there, we must also ask ourselves why people who like their devices don't feel the need to tell everyone, but people who don't like them must tell everyone. To me, that's a clear sign that there's something wrong with those haters or that there are some trolls here.
3) Threads that are created solely for the purpose of "letting steam off" do not help anyone! Of course people must be informed about flaws, BUT it doesn't help anyone when lots of threads are created for the sake of complaining about flaws that are already well-known. A thread must either inform or seek for a solution, threads created only in order to complain about or bash something are useless and hurt the quality of the forum.
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Doh! I wouldn't go to an iPhone forum slating the iPhone because I don't own one. I do, however, own an HD2......and therefore come to this forum. Yet another lame argument!

No, your argument is lame! I had an iPhone and I hated it, but I didn't go to iPhone forums telling people that I hate it, because only psychologically disturbed people like you do so.
And what is even worse, telling people how much you hate your HD2 has been the ONLY thing you've been doing since you registered to this forum. This is really sick.
My argument is totally valid. It's just you not being smart enough to understand it.

Htc new answer to evo 30fps limitation..

I sent several complaints to htc and got response from different reps.
Rep#1
"Thank you for your reply. You are correct that the Sprint EVO 4G is locked in at 30FPS. Since the HTC EVO 4G employs a unique HDMI output to deliver video in HD quality to an external display, the hardware graphics driver interface on the HTC EVO 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This is a hardware, and not a software, limitation. It’s important to keep in mind that content including most movies and television, are created to run at between 24 and 30 frames per second. The 30FPS is a hardware limitation. This should not present a major issue for most Android applications; however, the customer may have some issues with some 2D or 3D applications. We have also found that some games may be impacted by this limitation.
The device has been locked at 30 FPS due to enhance overall performance in the device. By lowering the FPS of the device the CPU works less. This increases the battery life of the device. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions. I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experience."
Rep#2
"Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your comment regarding the fps of your HTC EVO 4G. I understand how important it is for your device to function to your specifications and I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
We are investigating the viability of claims that the limitation of 30fps can be overcome by software changes. As soon as we finish our investigations, HTC will announce its findings. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions.
If we can be of further assistance with setting up your sync program, please don’t hesitate to call 1.866.449.8358. We are available Sunday through Saturday 6:00 a.m. until 1:00."
Its htc really trying to find a solution or are they just full of it?
What do you think?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Please.... This belongs in the general section.

really really wish mods would temp ban people for this

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Please.... This belongs in the general section.
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really really wish mods would temp ban people for this
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i feel like this is a development issue thats is why it was posted here so if you are not a moderator and cant help me move it to general. keep it to your self. im just trying to input some info for all the evo owners that are in question by this. " if im worng by putting this here this can always be deleted and posted somewhere else.

Yeah but if you actually read other sections on this site your responses have already been given to other people by HTC. These are not new, we have heard them before. This really should have been rolled in to the other pre existing threads. Why would you not post it in the general section and ask if it should be placed in development? I think I know the answer to my own question....
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Darn, I was hoping it was something new from them.

Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
EVO on Tapatalk

mlin said:
Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
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Do you really want to know?
Well this is a development forum. There is a slightly higher standard here and if you can't follow some basic rules then you have no business posting here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695844
Those are pretty clear to me. Pretty easy to follow for anyone with a brain stem. No one expects perfection or you to write source code the fastest but at least read the ****ing directions and follow the basic rules of our home.
This had no business getting posted in development, it has no business in general when there is a massive 600 something or whatever posts on this exact same crap. Not to mention multiple other scattered threads.
Best part is there is already a hacked solution to this with working camera / everything else working, that at least for now is more than enough. So anyone that really gives a **** already has the fix and this isn't even an issue.

Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.

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Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.
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I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
It's all good..

I don't think tech knowledge is the issue here and in other threads. I think the issue is forum etiquette. And on a tech/informative forum, the standard should be a little higher than that of a lounge type forum. People should have informative titles (which this one does). Posts should go in the relevant thread (possibly an issue on this one). Searches should be made before making any new thread. And content should be relevant, accurate, and informative (I'm guilty of that first with regards to this post). It can be a delicate balance between over regulation and under regulation. The forums with the highest signal to noise ratio tend to be over regulated but there is such a thing as going too far and pissing off your membership.
There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.

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There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.
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Hahaha... I bet you're talking about elitistjerks.com
Please. Just get over yourselves. It's a good thing that new people are coming to the forums. That means the Android community is growing and moving into more mainstream. Educate and direct people... don't spank them. Otherwise, you'll send them right back to their friendly iPhone forums.

Sounds to me like some 35 year old men need to get out of their moms basement and meet people face to face and learn how to treat others.
Holier than thou attitudes will run people away and along with that the innovation that comes with new ideas. I've been in many environments where a closed loop could not resolve an important issue because they were addressing the issue as they always have. It took someone new looking at the problem, with different experiences, in order to resolve the issue in the best possible way, if you don't like it, or your pride gets hurt, then you probably don't need to be part of the team.
I have also known people who could give Einstein a run for his money, but because they lacked the people skills, they couldn't get in with any major position enough where people would listen, they usually got sent to the corner of R&D and played with obscure possibilities.
As you can tell, I hate arrogance, and because I don't post much in this forum, doesn't mean I can't kick your ass in every other aspect of technology, worldly issues, and life in general.... So put down the mountain dew, and get up out of the basement, and maybe just maybe, you'll find that your high horse isn't high at all.

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I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
It's all good..
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100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!

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100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!
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Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!

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Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!
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lol, I know, the Teletack 250 was the first cellphone i could afford back in Venezuela 10 years ago or so, the next one whas my first phone here in the states with Voice Stream.

Lol wow... This forum is full of it... Higher standard? On the Internet? Lol....hilarious...

rotflmfao
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720242

Complete the sentence~ fm1776 is a...

Anybody and everybody who dislikes fm1776, come and fill in the blank~ Since he has put us in his ignore list, he won't be able see how we poke fun of him =D
fm1776 is a _______.
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Ok, on the serious note... Now that I've gotten the moderators' attention and getting myself into the potential of getting banned, this'll be my attempt before I die, or the topic gets closed.
So yeah... Dear moderator(s),
These couple of days this certain forummer, fm1776, has been causing a stir in the X10 community, by trying to defame X10 and promote iPhone in a zealous manner.
During this process, he has gotten quite a number of X10 users' attentions. If you do search through his posts, you will realize his illogical pratterings, and the funny thing is, he was the one starting insults on every single forummers who voiced out with name-calling, yet accuse us of doing so to him.
He even had the cheek to declare that he's put us in his ignore list and continued his endless, repititive praisings of the iphone4.
My question is, are we allowed to go to other sections and bash the respective models on how bad they are compared to the ones we like?
Though this is a public forum, but I believe stirring unrest between forummers isn't what we should encourage.
He can bash the X10 for all he like in the iPhone section, but not in a section that is about X10, for X10 owners. Doing so is just showing that he is looking for trouble.
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And to prove my point, hope those who are more or less affected please voice out and relate to the moderators about your views on fm1776.
And don't forget to fill in the blank too~ =D
Errr.... anyone...??? Helllloooooooooo~!?!? *echoes*

Sorry, but this is a complete waste of both time and space. You are giving him exactly the attention that he craves. My suggestion: delete this thread as fast as you created it. It doesn't bring anything worthwhile to the table.

Insults aside you make a good point.
There's a thin line between criticizing and bashing and it's pretty clear which side fm1776 has chosen. Not to say that he isn't allowed to voice his opinions but it's now gone from voicing his opinions to name-calling and ignoring opponents which to my knowledge are pretty clear indications of trolling. I'm not demanding his ejection from the board or anything, I have better things to worry about but LoneLEE makes a good point.

Well, menaningless, I do agree. But since nobody is doing anything about it and letting him run amok, at least I'm trying to see if it works. After all, would you prefer a sense of peace (ok there will be others after him, but I think alot would agree that fm1776 is the epitome of annoyance) or stoop to his level and pretend to ignore him?
Ignoring him just gives him the freedom to cause more unrest.
I don't think his amount of attention he's seeking is good enough, cos so far he hasn't been able to catch any moderators' attention. Lol.
And to think he, as a 'senior member', should know how to behave.
Even if I get bashed by his potential fans or banned by the mderators, at least I go down trying~ XD

If you ban this person, he will just make an new account and come back. Waste of time. It's better to ignore the person and let the mod do the work.

Yup. I know he'll come back. Just wanna raise awareness to the moderators that's all.
Maybe the kid respect the moderators more than us?

I belong to various forums on a wide range of subject matter and I am surprised how moderate the moderators on here have been with the person in question. As far as I can see he ruined a perfectly reasonable thread regarding picture quality, which I would have been interested in, and turned it to his own agenda of X10 bashing. We are all entitled to our opinion by you don't have to shove yours, repeatedly, down our throats. Gave up reading it because it got sooooo school yard silly.
In the meantime, ignoring him is probably the best way to go. He needs to get a life, not ruin ours.

Now who's trolling!..
Seriously though.. I thought most of his posts started with a sensible question/ thought/ challenge, which then devolved into petty squabbling.. As far as I know he is an x10 owner himself..
If you don't agree with anothers opinion then fine say so and state your own, but don't lower yourselves to personal insults... regardless of what anyone else does.. Presuming that you're all adults, you make your own decisions and you can't blame anyone else for what you type/ say/ do/ etc..
Can we please get back to healthy debate?

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Now who's trolling!..
Seriously though.. I thought most of his posts started with a sensible question/ thought/ challenge, which then devolved into petty squabbling.. As far as I know he is an x10 owner himself..
If you don't agree with anothers opinion then fine say so and state your own, but don't lower yourselves to personal insults... regardless of what anyone else does.. Presuming that you're all adults, you make your own decisions and you can't blame anyone else for what you type/ say/ do/ etc..
Can we please get back to healthy debate?
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as an independant person who has just looked through these threads. you dont need to defend him.
he comes in here saying 'im not here for debate, but just to make a statement' then he proceeds to debate with everyone (well one time) before putting them on ignore.
as someone else said, 'its like covering your eyes/ears and screaming 'lalala i cant hear youuuu''

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james_2k said:
as an independant person who has just looked through these threads. you dont need to defend him.
he comes in here saying 'im not here for debate, but just to make a statement' then he proceeds to debate with everyone (well one time) before putting them on ignore.
as someone else said, 'its like covering your eyes/ears and screaming 'lalala i cant hear youuuu''
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I place people on ignore when they go beyond the subject in attempt to change the topic. I also put people on ignore when they wag personal insults against me. Why respond to childish behavior? Several of the insults have come from one user who is using several profiles in an attempt to completely disrupt any point he does not agree with. He was banned twice for his rhetoric and feels like he has some how been wronged by me because I am the person that reported him. You will see how the same user profiles in question having come to attack the same people over and over in the different threads on every occasion they have disagreed. Also, there are things like personal information they have shared which is far too similar to be coincidence. You can look at a few of the dates these profiles were created, the beginning of June, which is right when the first profile got banned. That person is the one who started this thread.
Instead of offering his own point of view he attacks other points of view he find fault with. Everyone should be entitled to their opinion, but it should stay on topic. And, no one should have to call someone names because they don't like what they say.
I should not have to respond to people telling me that I want video chat so I can "make people watch whilst I jerk off". If placing that person on ignore makes me a "coward or a troll". Than I am both. It is completely unfair that you suggest that I did something wrong because I am unwilling to lower myself to a person who has spent 90% of his time on XDA insulting real contributors because they don't offer an opinion that matches his own. Which is exactly why he got banned from the X10 forum.
I want SE to get better. And, I know from several years of owning SE flagship devices that the only way to get SE to be more responsive to us customers is to let them know that you are willing to switch manufactures if they don't change.
I am not putting anyone down. I am not interest in putting everything SE down. I would just like us to be a bit more objective in our comparisons and to put a lot more pressure on SE to take us customers more seriously. Not simply take our cash and be done with us.

All of you please go through the rules here.
This thread is un-necessary, and does NOT belong to a forum based on X10 device.
Please stop this and maintain calm, till the MODs can look into the matter.
Hope you all stay calm and co-operate in peacekeeping on XDA.
Thanks.

Obviously it's unnecessary, and this topic will not be here if somebody bothered to put a stop to his crusade.
How else can I get your attention besides resorting to this? -_-

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Obviously it's unnecessary, and this topic will not be here if somebody bothered to put a stop to his crusade.
How else can I get your attention besides resorting to this? -_-
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There is a report button on the top right corner of every post.

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There is a report button on the top right corner of every post.
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... OH... I was trying to look for a button labeled 'Report User', just like other forums -____-
But ah well, what's done is done, and I've successfully brought to your attention anyway.
And since this topic has lived up to its purpose, please close it up already.

Flaming will not be tolerated Period. Thread closesd