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Some what disatisfied with my HD2

Dont know where to start.
1. crashes all the time,
2. crashes when the battery is low, have to do a soft reset to regain functionality
3. the battery life is a joke. charge in the morning and by around 4pm i got to be cautious on what calls i take as it will die on me.
4. freaks out randomly when using opera. could it be my fingers are too big? lol
5. sms some times dont send. found the fix on the htc site, still not working.
feel like i made a terrible mistake getting this phone, why should i have to do hacks/fixes my self when i have never needed to on any othr fone before?
its trully a different fone culture using this, as i type this on the hd2 i have had to retype this at least 7 times. lol....
anyway the basic functions should be flawless, but they are not which worries considerably.

Seems like you got a bad piece which is unfortunate. I hope you can get it changed, because this is not how it's supposed to be.
I think I got a pretty decent piece. I never experienced any battery issues and neither the sms bug which I know many experienced on this forum. Also mine never crashes so I can just assume that you got a faulty piece.
As for the typing I can agree with you. However, if you tweak by decreasing the sensitivity (which actually I never experienced as a decrease in sensitivity, only as an enhancement while typing), that problem will be gone as well. It's not a difficult tweak, it can be easily done by installing BsB tweaks which can be found here in the forums.
Although I agree with you that one should not be forced to tweak this phone oneself, but I guess we'll have to live with it

thanks for your reply,
i will try the tweak, and see how it goes, i emailed vodafone to let them know. i forgot to let them know how slow the phone gets some times.
oh well, this is what i get ditching nokia!

try to see if you can exchange the phone. must be able to if you can show the phone crashes to vodafone and if you have the device not for too long they should exchange it for you as far as I know,..

Vodafone! are saying they have none in stock and cant replace it, would it be worth just flashing it with a different ROM since there is nothing they can do...

mr3rown said:
Vodafone! are saying they have none in stock and cant replace it, would it be worth just flashing it with a different ROM since there is nothing they can do...
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Have you tried a hard reset?
Also MaskedMagi just posted that Vodafone DO have some replacement phones left: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5285586&postcount=184
Perhaps it would be worth calling them back.

jakem said:
Have you tried a hard reset?
Also MaskedMagi just posted that Vodafone DO have some replacement phones left: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5285586&postcount=184
Perhaps it would be worth calling them back.
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Yep, just to clarify that was about 3 hours ago so fingers crossed I'll get the phone tomorrow, though with the incoming snow probably not
I'm hoping that it is actually a HD2 and not a HTC Touch HD 2 or something as people have been confused over the phone before, I'll definately check before giving back my old one!
Needless to say I hope the newer one is not in fact worse than the old one! Give them a ring if you want, but remember you have to be within the 28 day period to get a return/replacement.
The direct line for returns they gave me was: 08448540430

Called them back but it was to late, got to call back during normal working hours... they are playing the arse because i called after the 28 days, when in fact I originally called on the 30th December, 27 days from when i received the phone on the 3rd.
I am very much annoyed, if they werent on holiday, there systems were down, then if not that they put me through to 3 different depts to then have to email v-store to them then telling me I am actually meant to call another dept.
These guys cannot be serious!!!

If you make enough of a fuss and tell them your original call was within the 28 day period and that they have delayed you they might listen, just have to see how it goes. Good luck with them tomorrow, keep us posted on how it goes

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If you make enough of a fuss and tell them your original call was within the 28 day period and that they have delayed you they might listen, just have to see how it goes. Good luck with them tomorrow, keep us posted on how it goes
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Originally they did, and the lady was meant to call back. But when she did the phone crashed. So I called back on the land line and got someone else instead.
Then had to go through the whole process again!! Will call back tommorrow though!
Did a hard reset we will see how that goes in the mean time.

mr3rown said:
Originally they did, and the lady was meant to call back. But when she did the phone crashed. So I called back on the land line and got someone else instead.
Then had to go through the whole process again!! Will call back tommorrow though!
Did a hard reset we will see how that goes in the mean time.
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Ah that sucks man, next time ask for their name and direct extension number straight away in case it happens again. Hopefully they'll sympathize with you tomorrow

Afterall ....it is a PHONE !

Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....

have you tried diffrent radio?

i have 2.04.50.22_2 which i think is the newest for my country (uk) the new raido did improve it slightly but it still sucks !

onisuk said:
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
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You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having

haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol

why_999 said:
You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having
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would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
hehe

onisuk said:
haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol
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sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.

samsamuel said:
would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
hehe
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Nope. I've never had any problems with SMS either and, as far as I'm concerned, the reception on this phone is 100% fine.
Thread after thread on this forum seems to be taken up with whiners who assume that every little quibble that they have is a problem for everyone. For the record, not only am I perfectly happy with my HD2 but I think HTC did a brilliant job with the hardware AND the software.

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I am tired of HTC bashing ... Stop it, please.
If you don't like the phone, sell it. I am very happy with mine. Never had sms problem and reception is just excellent. So the problem is not the phone it self.

No SMS problems with mine either, no bad reception, but several other "glitches".
But then again, im throwing .cabs at this phone in an extreme pace

I really do like the phone and would not want to sell it for one minute. However I do not make many calls.
My reception is shocking as well. In comparison to other phones the reception is extremely poor at best.
I said in a thread a while ago that this phone is fundamentally flawed. I say this because of the positioning of the aerial at the bottom of the phone - and HTC's recommendation not to hold it at the bottom. How the hell else do you hold a phone? And why put the aerial there in the first place?
I really don't think that the phone will get any better with ROM updates.

What I do not like about this phone is the keyboard/touchscreen. I'm slowly getting to grips with it but it's a slow process and quite frustrating. It runs very smooth no crashing or hangups thankfully. I had the SMS bug but turning it off and on cured that..for now. I've sent three texts in landscape mode typing by accident, urgh!
Signal wise, I get an average of 3/full bars in my bedroom. Living on the border between Northern and Republic of Ireland I barely got 2 with previous phones (LG Secret/Xperia X1) using o2. This is stock ROM (1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE) and stock radio (2.04.50.22_2). I'm very impressed with signal alone, but I try not to cover up the bottom.

Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.

jakem said:
Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.
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A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.

bronx said:
sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.
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its hardly ruining my life you drama queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed

onisuk said:
its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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Totally agreed. The other small issue that people are forgetting is that if you sell the HD2 then you are fairly certain to lose money.

onisuk said:
its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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no problems with sms or reception on mine... try jailbreaking an iphone every now and then and talk again about crap..

OneGoodKnock said:
A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.
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As I said, there's nothing wrong with the position of the aerial. However, feel free to go ahead and prove me right.

onisuk said:
its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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No, all it tells me is that most people that come here to complain are having problems. Nothing more and nothing less.
Has it occurred to you that you might be the problem rather than HTC or the phone? In between all the *****ing and moaning you haven't bothered to tell us anything about what you've done to the phone. How do we know that you haven't installed an application that's responsible for the problems you're experiencing? How do we know that you haven't changed a setting or cocked up a registry setting? If you want help then stop this childish ranting, otherwise don't bother posting.

onisuk said:
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
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try going to the official HTC web site, download all the software updates. As for the reception, change the bandwidth in order to get full 3g network coverage but be warned, it will drain your batter even more!

WiFi does not work.

I've just received my complimentary Nexus One from Google, and I'd be so happy if only one thing - WiFi does not work at all.
I tried to install this update to ERE27, but it did not help much. Actually it helped a little, before the update the phone just did reboot on an attempt to turn on the WiFi, now it does nothing (just saying "Turning on..."). Any ideas?
I can't believe Google sends out broken devices for free just to get rid of defective ones...

zc2 said:
I've just received my complimentary Nexus One from Google, and I'd be so happy if only one thing - WiFi does not work at all.
I tried to install this update to ERE27, but it did not help much. Actually it helped a little, before the update the phone just did reboot on an attempt to turn on the WiFi, now it does nothing (just saying "Turning on..."). Any ideas?
I can't believe Google sends out broken devices for free just to get rid of defective ones...
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Did you go into the phone settings' wireless and networks menu? (main screen -> menu button -> Wireless and networks)
If you look in Wifi settings you should see all the broadcasted SSID's. If not, then you may have an issue afterall.

zc2 said:
I've just received my complimentary Nexus One from Google, and I'd be so happy if only one thing - WiFi does not work at all.
I tried to install this update to ERE27, but it did not help much. Actually it helped a little, before the update the phone just did reboot on an attempt to turn on the WiFi, now it does nothing (just saying "Turning on..."). Any ideas?
I can't believe Google sends out broken devices for free just to get rid of defective ones...
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Oh wow. Wow. You're the only person to have had the same bad luck as I have...
Read this and start crying:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618764
Your phone is f~cked.
Send it back.
Sorry to tell you this. But hey at least I know what you're going through.
And you're lucky I saw this thread, as we're probably the only two people in the world to ever have this issue.
Luckily, I sent it back for a refund and it works great. To be honest, I was STRONGLY considering just sending it back for a refund instead of a swap and sticking with my G1 (man that would have sucked).
I am so glad I did a swap, and DAMN I love this phone. Haven't looked back since.

Nope, you guys aren't the only one who had wifi problems. My wifi wouldn't function at all on my first Nexus One... had to send it back for a new one and the second worked like a charm.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=07bbaac95aef0a15&hl=en

repair required
Thank you, guys, for responses.
I've called HTC and requested the repair.
Unfortunately, because it's complementary they do not send a new phone for replace, I have to send my broken one for repair.

Got it back from HTC today. They replaced it with a different phone, so probably that broken WiFi was not repairable. I hope everything works now.

zc2 said:
Got it back from HTC today. They replaced it with a different phone, so probably that broken WiFi was not repairable. I hope everything works now.
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Wow that was fast. I had to wait 10 days I believe (excruciatingly long days).
So... how does it work?

Paul22000 said:
Wow that was fast. I had to wait 10 days I believe (excruciatingly long days).
So... how does it work?
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Thanks for asking, wifi works fine. I'm writing from it now. And it seems the trackball did not work property on that broken one too. I wonder the other people who got a free N1 from Google, have same crap?

Sometimes I wonder why Google even bothers doing the device giveaway when miserable sods like you accuse them of sending out "crap". You don't like your free phone? Send it back, buy another one.
For crying out loud - everyone else in the program is exceptionally grateful and all you can do is whinge about it.

David Horn said:
Sometimes I wonder why Google even bothers doing the device giveaway when miserable sods like you accuse them of sending out "crap". You don't like your free phone? Send it back, buy another one.
For crying out loud - everyone else in the program is exceptionally grateful and all you can do is whinge about it.
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Like I said in the original post, I'm happy, and I thank Google and great and swift HTC service in my blog and everything else.
I'm sorry for using bad words because my English is way not perfect and I just meant not that what you thought.

zc2 said:
Thanks for asking, wifi works fine. I'm writing from it now. And it seems the trackball did not work property on that broken one too. I wonder the other people who got a free N1 from Google, have same crap?
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Grats, and enjoy!
How did you get your free N1 btw?
App with 5000+ downloads?

Paul22000 said:
Grats, and enjoy!
How did you get your free N1 btw?
App with 5000+ downloads?
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Thank you!
Yes, because of my application (Ghost Commander).

Good bye HD2, it's been hell and back.

For the last 6 weeks I've had nothing but headaches between two T-Mobile HD2's. I bought on release date, 3 days later I was better off tossing it in the freezer because all it would do is freeze. It also lagged, was buggy and a glitch fest. Apps didnt work, screen didn't work, Sense UI wouldn't load ugh, I can go on. I got another HD2, within the first 7 hours it froze on me too lol. It also had the same issues as the first.
I just want to thank everybody here in the forums for helping solve my phone issue, as I've research and tried everything but they did not help. Also thanks to HTC and T-mobile.com for putting up with my madness lol, although T-Mobile allowed me to get my OG plan back (and keep my HD2), I can now leave T-Mobile (im under no contract) to get something else (leaning towards the Evo 4G over the Nexus One).
P.S. I hope T-Mobile gets there act together and releases a patch ASAP, it sucks that such a incredible piece of hardware is having a lot of problematic issues.

that's weird,I assume you were on stock rom which is why u got the issues...custom roms eliminate those issues u have on stock rom.

i dont think it's so much the stock ROM, mine's been wonderful with the stock ROM. it's more that he was unlucky enough to be one of the first bozos who got the phone with version 2.10. for me, rom version 2.11 has been nothing but bliss, so much that after trying several custom roms i went back to my stock 2.11 because, compared to it, all custom roms suck (winmo devs aren't as good as android devs).
there's a thread with stock roms and 2.11 is usable even without hspl (i kept hspl out of personal preference and I'll try to make my own build). good luck to you anyway. i suggest you get a nexus one and flash desire rom (or heck, get a desire)

If it is freezing, the first setting I would check is
Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Today > Items
The setting "Today timeout", at the bottom left hand corner,
should not be selected/enabled.

why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?

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why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?
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i just unchecked it so i'll wait and see if anything improves (i have minor freezing/lag with calls and sms sometimes)...but im also curious what this fixes

I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.

My phone has frozen at least once every day it seems like. But I think i solved the battery issue. I bought a second battery!! Haha, I am so S M R T! At any rate, I love this phone for the big screen and fast internet. I just wish I had a way to get mp4's to watch. Or that more books on barnes and noble were free.

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I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Why does "...and Windows 7 was my idea!" come to mind?

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.

Woot, 8 posts to 1,000.
7!

zarathustrax said:
Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.
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Agreed.Also i thought you were an Android fan boy, didn't you have a G1?

DaveNavy said:
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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you sir are an idiot.... did you look at his sdcard, you were there while he was using the phone to say it that kind of ****? you ve had good luck with you r device and I congratulate you but not everybody phone has been flawless. so basicly.........STFU.

if you go for android you will know the value of your hd2

Raadius said:
LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!
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I was with you till you said the bolded
how solipsistic can you be to assume that based on your pathetic user experience that tmobile and htc would generate an entire updated rom to suit just your needs??? Give me a break dude...
this is xdas not fan pandering to overly zealous delusional users that are so far up steve jobs craw they can see his prostate...I mean seriously what the frick???
And I admit for 80% of errors it is brought on by the user and not the device itself. The hd2 has its flaws. All phones do...but for most users they are iphone/android converts expecting the same experience without doing any research on htc and windows mobile. And to those users, yes I say they do deserve any error they get. Why? You didn't take time to learn about your device. This isn't something as simple as a flashlight where you press the on button and something magically happens. Its a pocket pc and that means a lot...

Closing this thread as it is turning into a bashing session. Lets keep it civil.

Goodbye Galaxy S

I have finally sold my galaxy s i9000 today....
After about 3 weeks of using the device and having all the problems with the phone i decided to sell it.... although the decision was an easy one because it was easy to sell the phone at a profit since actually there are high demand for the phone and limited supply.... i guess most people still dont know about all the problems that this phone has.....
at my age, 36, i dont wish to spend too much time trying to fix the phone like applying rom, fixes, firmware etc.... i just want a smartphone that works well out of the box....
so after so many problems i experience using the phone i decided to sell it....
problems i faced:
- GPS very inaccurate and sometimes cannot lock signals and shows me in different country.... not to mention it cannot track continuously....
- Phone hangs when i am in a conversation and another caller comes in....
- quite frequent lags that sometimes can only be fixed by restarting the phone
- email apps takes long time to load the contents
- GSM signal quite erratic, phone must be held certain way to avoid drop in signals.... just like iphone 4 but maybe not as severe.... i am not sure....but it bothers me because i can see the signal dropping 2-3 bars when i hold it certain way
-keyboard which i just cannot get accustomed to, i dont know if its a problem of the touch screen sensor which is not precised or because of the size of the device that is a bit too wide....but the bottom line is that i find myself making lots of typing mistakes when using it one handedly
- overall samsung touchwiz quirks and the widgets are not to my liking....
- firmware fix update for my asia pacific region doesnt seem to come along fast enough... i only see one update which is the one thats giving me all the problems mentioned above..... but i see the european firmware gets update very frequently.....this makes me mad.... but the bad thing is that even the european updates seems to be still having most of the problems, especially the gps problem....
so after thinking thinking thinking... i sold it.... and i sold it after only 30 minutes of posting my advertisement in internet....
i just thought i'd share my experience......

youre the first people who dissapoint about this phone AFAIK
so how much did u sell this phone?just wanna know

I don't have any of those problems, neither do a lot of other people. Still on the stock ROM, no tweeking, nothing.
You should have asked for a replacement phone first before getting rid of it. By the looks of it there's a dodgy batch of them.

strange thing is we all want the best but its never good enough, I mean if any phone comes out and all is great people still want more and ways to better it, its human nature I guess and yes its a pain now and then but the strange thing is there is also a joy/kick out of things like roms, to get these small/big changes and play around with them, its true we can all say that it should come out and be 100% of what people paid for but......well never going to happen, and where would the fun be if it did lol
GPS I see people on about this, where I live it (north uk)tracks me from 20 meters to 2 meters (down to speed)

Tachikoma_kun said:
I don't have any of those problems, neither do a lot of other people. Still on the stock ROM, no tweeking, nothing.
You should have asked for a replacement phone first before getting rid of it. By the looks of it there's a dodgy batch of them.
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Are you saying you never experience *ANY* lag on your phone? This sounds very strange to me, as the lag problems seem to be an inherent problem of the phone's hardware/software architecture. I can hardly believe what you are saying, or maybe you have just not used your phone intensively enough. Otherwise me and a LOT of other GS users can get ready to return their phones for a replacement.
I can understand your frustration, widjaja. The lags are very annoying, and I myself have encountered times where I got an incoming call which I simply could not answer because the phone was too busy loading the friggin' call interface. It is however clear that Samsung themselves will come with an official fix for this, and in the meantime we have the homebrew fixes. For me, this is enough reason to stick with this phone until it is fully ridded of its problems. After all, apart from the buggy annoyances, it is the most powerful Android phone out there.

widjaja74_us said:
I have finally sold my galaxy s i9000 today....
After about 3 weeks of using the device and having all the problems with the phone i decided to sell it.... although the decision was an easy one because it was easy to sell the phone at a profit since actually there are high demand for the phone and limited supply.... i guess most people still dont know about all the problems that this phone has.....
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hey there, sorry to hear that!
this isn't meant as a response but more as a general comment on the issues you faced to compare the asian/european version (i've got the european version).
DISCLAIMER: i'm talking about my device. chime in if your experience differs from mine!
widjaja74_us said:
at my age, 36, i dont wish to spend too much time trying to fix the phone like applying rom, fixes, firmware etc.... i just want a smartphone that works well out of the box....
so after so many problems i experience using the phone i decided to sell it....
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i hear you. although i don't get what your age has got to do with your phone but still you're right. time spent fixing things which should work out of the box is lost time. period.
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problems i faced:
- GPS very inaccurate and sometimes cannot lock signals and shows me in different country.... not to mention it cannot track continuously....
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my fix is immediately and as accurate as it can get with a civilian phone.
talked about the asian region gps issue with a friend yesterday and we suspected it might be something about gps being dimmed near north korea for military reasons but i guess that was just us crazy talking.
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- Phone hangs when i am in a conversation and another caller comes in....
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no hangs with concurrent calls whatsoever
widjaja74_us said:
- quite frequent lags that sometimes can only be fixed by restarting the phone
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besides the lag already being discussed in another thread, i don't experience frequent lags. and even this so called lag is just a minor annoyance when compared to the performance of other android-devices or the iphone-series (at least the couple devices i got ahold of in the last years).
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- email apps takes long time to load the contents
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email app loading in a split second over hier (stock & gmail)
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- GSM signal quite erratic, phone must be held certain way to avoid drop in signals.... just like iphone 4 but maybe not as severe.... i am not sure....but it bothers me because i can see the signal dropping 2-3 bars when i hold it certain way
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i can hold my phone any way i want and have the same reception as other phones in the same area (elevator = little to no reception, top of building = great reception, subway = flaky/depends if underground/overground, etc) and with all other phones i had before.
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-keyboard which i just cannot get accustomed to, i dont know if its a problem of the touch screen sensor which is not precised or because of the size of the device that is a bit too wide....but the bottom line is that i find myself making lots of typing mistakes when using it one handedly
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the touchscreen sensor is perfectly calibrated and the swype-keyboard (is this the one your talking about?) is the best thing invented since touchscreens were invented. the tutorial takes 4 minutes to go through and i never want to go back now. this isn't just a productivity enhancement this is the path from "oh **** i have to answer this mail with my crappy phone keyboard" and "yeah let's write the last couple of mails on the subway then i'm home earlier".
or something like that..
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- overall samsung touchwiz quirks and the widgets are not to my liking....
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well there's literally hundreds of widgets to choose from and although i know you want it to work out of the box that's something you need to do for yourself as samsung can't do it right for everybody.
i'm not a huge touchwiz fan myself but it does the job (protip: LauncherPro, search for it in the market if you haven't already heard about it).
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- firmware fix update for my asia pacific region doesnt seem to come along fast enough... i only see one update which is the one thats giving me all the problems mentioned above..... but i see the european firmware gets update very frequently.....this makes me mad.... but the bad thing is that even the european updates seems to be still having most of the problems, especially the gps problem....
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well i'm feeling you especially with the new firmware seemingly creating more problems than it solves. but when comparing the release date of the phone with the release date of the new firmware my assessment is that samsung is on the fast side with this one. but i'm not very experienced with the company so maybe i'm just a lucky samsung-beginner
there is no official european update yet, hopefully in the coming days/weeks.
and as mentioned before i don't have the slightest issue with gps.
widjaja74_us said:
so after thinking thinking thinking... i sold it.... and i sold it after only 30 minutes of posting my advertisement in internet....
i just thought i'd share my experience......
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again, sorry to hear that and i hope your next phone is going to satisfy your requirements!
cheers
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Samsung Galaxy S, European version, Android 2.1-update1 vanilla, non-rooted, LauncherPro

lemme guess... your gonna buy an iPhone 4? LOL
like most ppl on these sorts of threads say, most of us have had NO problems, mayb a few stalls 5-10 secs on apps.
your 36 and expect a device with this spec to be perfect.
if you want something that performs out of the box perfectly, get a nokia that only makes calls mate.
to be honest if you dont even know you can change touchwiz just by downloading an app you shouldnt have a smartphone anyway

I smell troll

Sorry to hear that. Although at times, I've felt like sending mine back when the GPS wigs out, but the rest of the phone is better than anything else out there, so I'm sitting tight and hoping/waiting for a fix.

just curious - are you in a rural area or in the city?
and with earlier phone(s) did you have strong 3G signal?

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I smell troll
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No disrespect to OP but... yea

No phone is perfect thats a fact. I have minor issues with my Galaxy S but there are ways around them, i know you said you didnt want to mess around with it but why did you buy an open source device with huge custom ability. I love the fact theres alternative for everything, i have custom keyboards, custom home screens, gmail email app of which i have 0 problems with the gmail account, everything loads in an instant.
I dont use GPS so i can't comment but i would have recommended a factory reset if you had these problems from day 1. it fixed a lot of peoples minor quirks.
I do get a little lag here and there but its bareable until an update comes out and from what ive been reading about the unofficial firmwares they are speeding up considerably.

wow if the SGS i9000 is bad for the OP, then he should never buy a Windows Mobile nor iphone based device as those are even more horrible. (that's exactly the reason why i moved to Android phones)
it'll probably make sense to just go back and use a normal 9 buttons cell phone to avoid any problem at all, then you'll have a cell phone that is good at what it does and not a multi purpose entertainment device with a build in cell phone.

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Are you saying you never experience *ANY* lag on your phone? This sounds very strange to me, as the lag problems seem to be an inherent problem of the phone's hardware/software architecture. I can hardly believe what you are saying, or maybe you have just not used your phone intensively enough. Otherwise me and a LOT of other GS users can get ready to return their phones for a replacement.
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Email - No issues, I can open an email, delete it, open another one and reply in a few seconds. I don't get the "10 seconds to delete an email" issue
GPS - Accurate to 12-odd feet, the occasional spaz out to 200 feet for a fraction of a second, but that's it
Menu - no lag issues, the odd stutter where it takes maybe 1/4 a second to show the transition animation, again, barely noticable
Apps - Other than "Zombies Live!" which is slow as hell, I don't get any unresponsive screens when apps load or quit
If you want I will make a video tomorrow. I am going to an airshow in the morning, but will make it when I get back in the evening.

Have to agree with extraordinary sluggishness despite battery pulls turning off animations etc...
Too bad...so much candy in this toy.

at my age, 36, i dont wish to spend too much time trying to fix the phone like applying rom, fixes, firmware etc.... i just want a smartphone that works well out of the box....
so after so many problems i experience using the phone i decided to sell it....
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Out of curiosity.. XDA is a developers forum (hence the name).. Why would you hang around if you just want an out of the box experience??

Welldone widjaja, i totaly agree with u, samsung galaxy s, what a pile of crap, i got rid of mine (at times i felt like smashing the pile of crap with a hammer or throwing it out of the window) i know have a dell streak and i couldent be happier
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anything that runs Windows Mobile is a piece of crap, else i wouldn't have switched to an Android phone. That Dell Stinks, it's even bigger and more cumbersome than the HTC Athena

Widjaja you're not alone, i've experienced the exact same problems. It almost felt you were talking about my handset.
This would really be the best handset if it wasn't for the issues you have mentioned, really.
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This guy brings up good points, products should always work flawlessly out of the box. And for your situation, not wanting to tinker, its probably best to replace your phone with something simpler (aria). On the other hand, a few software fixes that are already out address all these issues and make this phone, the best on the market.
Gl with your next cellphone purchase.