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[B]Xperia X1 Recharging time[/B]

hey everyone , i am having a problem my first recharge session for the xperia when the batter was fully drained was about 9 hours? is this normal ? for the first couple of times , i am recharging my phone through the usb cable from my computer directly ?
Please Advise

I've never charged mine through my computer, only synced. I will say it took very long to charge at first. I'd recommend using the wall charger and charging every night instead of letting it drain all the way.

Wall charger is the best choice, unless u have got a battery charger & patience to take off & put on the battery cover every time.
I doubt whether it is necessary to charge x1 every night?

I also find that using a wall charger gives a much quicker charge time and to my eyes a longer lasting charge... I only charge when it gets down to 20-40% so it could last as long as 4 days... (usually 2)

wallcharger takes about 2 hours till its full.
USB however takes far longer. not sure why but i guess the ma/h used for USB is probably far lower then a wallcharger

Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?

mcbyte_it said:
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, if you check that Motorola output parameters are the same of our SE wall charger.

Thanks
Guys i did charge it from the wall charger and it took less then an hour to charge the remaining 50% which is great guessing so its going to take around 2 hours to full charge it from zero , , thanks for the help

I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.

recharging ... Saving the battery
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong

mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)

fards said:
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
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Hmmm... great idea man... but I am wondering if it could affect the battery. Which is the total mah supplied?! is it less than the wall charger one? that info could definitively chamge my mind about the split cable

1) USB charge is way slower
2) Wall is about 2 -3 hrs
3) GSM plus average usage, 1.5 days of use
4) 3G plus average usage 1 days
what my laptop battery care program does to prolong live is that it maintains a max 80% charge. perhaps this is same for all battery?

[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?

mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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Please consider using punctuation, as your text is completely unreadable.

mtaher said:
[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
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Sincerely, it doesn't matter for me. 4 year is way too long and I never had a phone for that period, so I really do not care about it. The only thing I pay attention is to always fully charge and discharge the battery, every time.
Consider that the first bound to a battery life is its recharge cycles. Probably 90% of batteries dies/loose power because of too many charge/discharge cycles, the 10% left for other reasons (fast charge, totally drained power, heat, etc.)

mcbyte_it said:
Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, I use my old Motorola V3i charger to charge the Xperia, no problems.

[email protected] said:
As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
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the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.

Yeh
Yeh, as a note to some former replied.
Li-Po (Lithium Polymer) batteries need to be kept in check, overheating can make them dangerous and explosive as well as reducing their life cycle.
Which point you charge the battery from with Li-Po does not mattery as long as the correct "conditioning" cycles are completed when new.
Also, as a note, I have once or twice attempted to charge my Xperia from the USB port on my laptop(plugged in) over night, only to find the battery of the Xperia was totally dead the next morning.
The USB ports of my laptop provide 500mA (standard) and the charger for the Xperia is 700mA so not a significant difference, but I guess other things affect the the USB ports on laptop (including Windows 7 having the ability to disable US ports to "save power").
It most probably assume the "device" connected is wasting power and so disables it. Although we want it to charge. Same goes for Windows Vista. This option can be disabled though.

MrLeche said:
the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
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Yes, but wall charging while using connected wifi does heat the battery relatively quickly (my Polaris, Li ion, gets vaguely warm, not as obviously heated as the X1 battery)
I've tested this with a new replacement battery - careful overnight charging when new - and similar behaviour still results
This has convinced me that the X1 has a serious weakness, as charging while wifi connected is a long-standing work habit. If the wifi is connected without charging, a usable time of 2-3 hours is all you get (no good )

Why does it take 1 year for the battery to charge?

Sarcasm, haha laugh a little.
But really, do you guys notice that it takes a long time for the battery to charge?
I think when available, I'll buy a bunch of batteries just to have handy.

well the battery is 1500mAh the nexus charged pretty quickly but it was 1400mAh i am not sure how much difference 100mAh will make on charging the battery but that could be a possibility.

Charging with the computer will always be slower, if that's what you're using.

I wonder if its the charger. The provided charger has an output rating of 0.7A. I know some microusb chargers I have seen are rated as high as 1.0A. That could be the difference.

soklean said:
well the battery is 1500mAh the nexus charged pretty quickly but it was 1400mAh i am not sure how much difference 100mAh will make on charging the battery but that could be a possibility.
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I was thinking the same thing...hhmm could 100mAh make that much of a difference?

heygrl said:
Charging with the computer will always be slower, if that's what you're using.
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I always try to avoid using the computer to charge my phone. It just seems to take awfully long even plugged into the wall.

landale said:
I wonder if its the charger. The provided charger has an output rating of 0.7A. I know some microusb chargers I have seen are rated as high as 1.0A. That could be the difference.
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Interesting...that could be. However, maybe it's 0.7A for a reason? Perhaps the battery needs to have it at that "flow rate." ???

We did get a different charger over the i9000, they had a separate USB cable and microUSB wall charger. We obviously don't have that setup.
Some phones have Li-Pol batteries and they have to charge differently. This could be why it's taking so long to recharge.

check a tmobile store or website for the new portable micro usb charger. charges your phone on the go and recharges itself via a usb charger the vibrant ships with or your computer. i got mine and was a lifesaver the other night when i needed to leave my house with 10% charged.

I hate saying this, but: I literally LOL'd from the title of this thread.
I completely agree. Charging takes fuggin' forever. My guess would be that turning the device off helps speed this up, tremendously. But of course, who wants to do that?
That said, battery life has been impressively long, provided you turn off Samsung's widgets. :/

iunlock said:
Interesting...that could be. However, maybe it's 0.7A for a reason? Perhaps the battery needs to have it at that "flow rate." ???
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That would be a huge design oversight if a generic charger caused problems with the battery. I'm sure Samsung thought about the user charging with a generic charger.

Mine charges pretty fast I'm using the usb that came with the moto cliq

iceshinobi said:
Mine charges pretty fast I'm using the usb that came with the moto cliq
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How fast is fast, iceshinobi?

I have conditioned my battery twice and going from empty with the phone off and pluged into the wall not via usb-pc, took me over 4hrs each time.
If the charger is 0.7 going to a 1.0 would be a huge improvement. The only worry would be the extra heat and problems that might cause. With NiMH batteries quick charging is preferable to slow charging, is this the same for Li-ion?

came here for insight as well, woke up at like 5am, phone was almost dead, 10% battery or so
turned it off, plugged it in to the wall charger and it is now 8am and it is maybe 60-70% charged
what the hell?
with my g1 turned off i can go from 0 to 100% charge in like an hour or so using a USB port. now i know the battery is smaller but c'mon... this is ridiculous.

Could it be that the phone just has to break in? When I first got G1 it would take about 4 hours to charge I remember, now a year and a half later I can get it to 80-90 percent in 1 and a half.

The computer USB standard is 100 to 500 milliamp, the USB walloulet adapter (charger) Is 700 milliamp, our batteries are 1500 milliamp and that's why.
USB cables have a certain standards witch includes voltage and current standards.
If you want a fast charger look for a hard wired 1000-1200 milliamp charger with a micro USB connector on ebay.

siberslug said:
The computer USB standard is 100 to 500 milliamp, the USB walloulet adapter (charger) Is 700 milliamp, our batteries are 1500 milliamp and that's why.
USB cables have a certain standards witch includes voltage and current standards.
If you want a fast charger look for a hard wired 1000-1200 milliamp charger with a micro USB connector on ebay.
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Interesting...having a 1000+ milliamp charger shouldn't cause heat issues would it for pumping in more juice at a higher rate?

Charging while in use

If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.

perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Are you using the OEM charger?

perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Mine doesn't it keeps going up, though I haven't tried playing games. It does depend on what you are doing with the device, if you are running applications that max out the processor it will possibly drop.
The GSII would drain while plugged in if the screen was on. You would see a noticeable drain while using GPS and Music and driving. The only way to make it work was to turn the screen off on the device, the GSIII has a better charging chip in it, and it isn't limited to 650maH (from what I can tell since it is charging when using GPS)

I noticed it while using a usb car cigarette adapter as well as a usb port on my laptop. the car adapter is a 2 amp charger capable of charging a tablet. I will see how it performs with the oem wall charger.
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Yeah I was charging my phone earlier using a car was adapter with the oem micro usb cable and they phone got very hot.
What do you guys think? Is this a cause for concern? Do I need to buy a manufacturer approved adapter?

Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.

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Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.
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I'm curious about this myself....I'm leaning towards not leaving mine plugged all night. I 2 have done this in the past with other phones and can't be certain but maybe this is a rEason I had horrible batt life despite efforts to Better it. So I'm gonna stick with charging/topping off when I can. Gonna start just charging when I wake up while I'm getting ready for work. I did notice that when battery is completely charged a message comes up telling u so and to unplug. So I'm gonna follow directions haha.
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All modern smartphones have chips that control power, and cycle charging appropriately to not abuse the battery. Many phones monitor the temp of the battery and such to ensure a good and safe charge. You can leave it plugged in overnight just fine..

It definitely doesn't like 3rd party adapters. I'm hoping it will at least accept the tab adapter with samsung's cable so that I can charge it at work without buying a dozen chargers, but...
(One charger I used is understandable - turns out its only 300ma. Whoops! But using full 1A chargers wasn't helping either, it went up maybe 1% every 15 mins. The stock charger ran it up fast enough that it was charged from 70% in under an hour.)

I use SetCPU and have a setting to reduce the clock when it exceeds a temperate parameter. You could also set a max clock for when it is plugged into a USB (Computer/Car charger). That could help it stay cooler and charge faster while not plugged into the wall.
I charged from empty to full this morning when plugged into the wall in about 3 hours. I haven't tested on my computer yet.

I went through this when I first got my Evo 4G. I did not realize at the time that the 500mA charger I was using with my Blackberry Storm (horrible device) would not charge my Evo while doing anything power intensive (like using GPS) and I quickly drained it on a car trip.
I went on Amazon and bought a $20 Schosche iPad charger that claimed to provide 2.1A which should be plenty. On that charger the phone would charge while using GPS but very, very slowly.
After some more research I found that some chargers caused the phone to switch into "USB" charging mode and others would switch it to "AC" mode which would draw much more power and charge faster.
This is the charger I ended up with and it works great:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=6766&seq=1&format=2
My Evo charges just as fast as it does on the OEM wall charger. I don't have my SIII yet (thanks Verizon for being the LAST in the US to ship them out...) so I can't yet say if this holds true for the SIII but I assume it will. At $1.22 it's not much of a gamble.

Can't charge N4 from USB

Hey all
I'm having this really strange issue, trying to figure out if the phone is at fault and whether I should RMA it.
When I try to charge it through my Macbook pro, it gets to around 16% and stops charging. When I charge it through my car's USB to 9V converter it manages to charge properly but loses that charge very quickly.
When my phone is connected to a power outlet (via a samsung convertor that came with my Nexus S), it charges well and holds the charge for a while.
Should I RMA?

The voltage doesn't make any difference. (Well it does, but it simply won't charge if the voltage is too low) It's the current you should be worried about. May be your Macbook pro and your car USB simply isn't giving out enough current to charge the phone? Laptop usb ports tend to have very low power rating.

beegbear said:
Hey all
I'm having this really strange issue, trying to figure out if the phone is at fault and whether I should RMA it.
When I try to charge it through my Macbook pro, it gets to around 16% and stops charging. When I charge it through my car's USB to 9V converter it manages to charge properly but loses that charge very quickly.
When my phone is connected to a power outlet (via a samsung convertor that came with my Nexus S), it charges well and holds the charge for a while.
Should I RMA?
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Well, my ENTRY PROCESS of RMA took 15 days. Im pretty lucky .
My nexus 4 got bricked, for a battery issue, I recomend dont charge the N4 in cars... :S

snapper.fishes said:
The voltage doesn't make any difference. (Well it does, but it simply won't charge if the voltage is too low) It's the current you should be worried about. May be your Macbook pro and your car USB simply isn't giving out enough current to charge the phone? Laptop usb ports tend to have very low power rating.
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My computer has no issues charging any other device...
And to the gentleman that recommended not to charge it in a car.. well that'd make my phone far less useful. I need to be able to charge it in my car.

USB Wall Outlet Charger

I'm looking at avoiding powerbricks in my house. I've been upgrading the outlets in my house to USB's simular to this: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Legrand-Radiant-15-Amp-Tamper-Resistant-Outlet-3-1-USB-White/50253183
would I still be able to charge my phone and if so how fast? This would be the pain reason why I don't get the 6t and end up with a pixel or something.
thanks.

I have a similar setup in my kitchen and had a 3T. You can definitely charge your phone using an outlet like that and USB A to USB C cable, but it will charge slower than if you were using the wall plug and cable that come in the box with the phone. In my understanding the fast charging through VOOC/Dash charging is enabled by the wall plug, which does the heavy lifting of converting the power. This approach is supposedly better for the long term battery life. It definitely keeps the phone cooler and running smoother if you use it while charging. That said, I doubt that charging through a non-OP charger is bad for the phone or battery. It will just take longer.

How much slower? I think I set this thread up wrong, Im sorry.

Sorry I don't have any metrics. I mostly used the charger that came with my 3T. I'd say if you want the phone mostly charged in a short amount of time you need to use the charger that comes with the phone. If you aren't going to be using it for a while you can use any other USB C cable or charger you have available.