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hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen
fjjfrank said:
hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen
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..in the shipped rom htc sense 2.1 is used! Htc sense does not have the shortcuts @the home screen.
You didn't do anything wrong...
If you want the shortcuts you must flash a cooked rom!
...I was wondering the same..why dont we have the 3 short cuts on home screen with the official WM 6.5 for TD2 ??
and why using a cooked rom ? because it seems like the new HD2 will have the 3 shortcuts with original rom, hmmm maybe we will have somethin like an update on the offiial htc website for td2 ?
Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.
prdic said:
Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.
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As has been said, Manila 2.5 (with the icons) was developed with for the next generation of phones in mind. Phones like the HD2 have better hardware to handle the extra funcionality. Remember there is a trade off between function and performance. If you have to have 2.5 then a custom ROM is your only option and to be fair most of them run better than we should expect considering that a TD2 doesn't have the power of a HD2. That's down to the skill of the people developing the custom ROMs, but for me running a Sense 2.1 ROM is a good compromise.
And i HATE the look of 2.5 so it's a no-brainer for me
Edit.. Just to add that the official WM6.5 update brings with it an outdated version, albeit 'official' version of Manila 2.1. The 'sense' version of 2.1 is something that again you will only get in a custom ROM. It is the official 2.1 with some updated components from 2.5 added to it. i.e Weather on the hometab clock. Depending on the chef you can find the balance between function and performance that suits you best. I'd personally prefer to have a Program tab (like in the Dutty R0 2.1 'Holy Grail' ROM that i use), than have icons cluttering up my home screen.
Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .
shlomo78 said:
Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577603
It's being looked into. Unfortunately it seems that most of the effort is being put into customising Sense 2.5 whereas Sense 2.1 is the ginger step-child which is being largely ignored. For the Sense 2.1 users, which i believe is the better option for the hardware spec of the TD2, we have to take what we are given. There are a variety of cooked ROMS using a 2.1 base that have a varying degree of 'Leo' apps cooked into them. (For instance i've seen some using a 2.5 HTC photo album on a 2.1 ROM)
I've been using MaxTTM to remove top and bottom curtains from the Sense 2.1 homescreen but finding 'components' to add to the app which do more than that is almost impossible for Sense 2.1. Again it seems that everybody is jumping aboard the 2.5 bandwagon. For example, if you are looking for a transparent slider that works with Sense 2.1 you can forget about apps like MaxTTM for now.
Ok so I know I'll always have unlimited wallpaper options.
But with this whole TouchFlo 3d thing being new to me obviously the world I know of the old home screens have changed a little. (yes I know I can disable touchflo and have the old back...but I like touchflo).
So I am trying to make sense of what my theme options are for my phone
Tmobile Touch Pro 2 with stock tmobile rom (phone purchased 2 weeks ago)
Windows 6.1
Touch Flo 3D version 2.1
plenty of memory
So what I am asking is a pretty newbish question despite me being a windows mobile user for 6 years.
How the hell do I get new themes now. The whole manila utility has me confused its apparant i cant use it but every theme i seem to find is a manila theme, or it is meant for a WVGA phone like the diamond.
So where can I find some that are Touchflo 3d 2.1 friendly and how do I go about installing them now.
Thanks fellas/ladies hope i dont take up too much of your time with this question
A couple of items you should note:
1. The Touch Diamond's resolution is VGA. The Touch Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2's resolutions are WVGA.
2. Manila and TouchFlo3D basically are used interchangeably.
That said, I've given up on manila themes for now. There are too many manila versions. There's 2.0 (without the weather on the home tab), there's 2.1 (with weather on the home tab), there's 2.5 (ported from HD2), and now there's new versions of 2.5 with documents tab...
Anyway, I suppose the advice is that if the theme is packaged into a cab file, give it a try. If it looks funny on your device, then it's not fully compatible with your manila version. Just uninstall it.
Also, it may be worthwhile to have a look at the link in my signature...
I knew I switched WVGA and VGA thanks for that clarification.
And essentially my options without manila are try and find a theme in a cab otherwise I'll struggle.
I read that manila is not compatable with touchflo 3D 2.1 and above. Or am I missing the whole point of how manila works?
For all intents and purposes, "manila" and "TouchFlo3D" are the same.
"TouchFlo3D" was the marketing term used for the HTC custom interface.
"Manila" is HTC's codename for "TouchFlo3D".
"TouchFlo3D" has since been re-branded as "HTC Sense" to be consistent with their custom UI for their Android devices.
In terms of compatibility, as alluded to before, it depends on the version of Manila on your device and the version the theme was made for.
Are there specific release threads somewhere on here for each version from the creator? I keep constantly running into edits and things like that but I cant find the specific release threads. Thanks for your help so far
I also have the same device only difference is I am running windows 6.5. Just yesterday I downloaded a theme from this same forum. The dusk theme. You'll find it just a page or to past this post. Very simple a lot of cab files. The only trouble Im having is installing the windows media and weather program. But take a look pretty cool theme.
Extracting Theme from another ROM
Ok, so I have a different question. Suppose that I like a theme/icons from one ROM, but like the features/performance from another ROM (and assume they are the same version of sense (2.5 with docs tab.)) Is there a way to extract the theme from the ROM and apply that theme to the other ROM that is installed?
Thanks!!
Ok so the dusk theme is pretty independent (looks like it has manila built in) that should be all I need to start off?
Hi,
my os is still winmo 6.1 and i don't really want to upgrade to 6.5 yet (because the next g rom isnt out yet and i dont want a different version). but i do like the htc sense UI with the weather in the middle of the time animated and the colourful task icons.
i want something like this:
http ://www . redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HD21.jpg
is it necessary to upgrade to 6.5 to have this? or can i have it and still have 6.1?
thanks
Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
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Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
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okay COOL! thanks
but will you tell me what kind of bugs are there? thanks again
AND another thing - will i be able to still keep my old touchflo3d interface (like i can choose either this jacko rom or the one i have now on the today settings), or will this completely change my interface? thanks
Jacko ROM rocks.. I have been using it intensively for a whole week...
and frankly... together with the Tarkim's Keyboard Configuration Apps... they save my TP2 from being dumped into the drawer... You must try it out if you want Sense on 6.1 (I don't want 6.5 too.. as I hate that stupid honeycomb interface which takes away my keyboard quick selection ...)
is there any way to get the sense with the weather without flashing a new rom?? if not is there any way to flash roms on a mac and or unlock my tp2 on a mac? what about backing up/syncing my tp2?
Guys, I have searched with no prevail, and please forgive me if this has been asked before. I would like the weather clock like that present in sense 2.5, for touchflo3d/sense 2.1. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot.
dressanderc said:
Guys, I have searched with no prevail, and please forgive me if this has been asked before. I would like the weather clock like that present in sense 2.5, for touchflo3d/sense 2.1. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot.
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If you go with default background on Sense 2.1 you should get animated weather. This cab gives you animated weather for any background.
All credits to the original programmer.
Ok, excuse me if i'm wrong, but I was under the impression that TouchFLO3D and Sense 2.1 were the same thing. I do not have any weather on my home tab. I am running the stock WM6.5 ROM on an AT&T Branded Tilt 2.
dressanderc said:
Ok, excuse me if i'm wrong, but I was under the impression that TouchFLO3D and Sense 2.1 were the same thing. I do not have any weather on my home tab. I am running the stock WM6.5 ROM on an AT&T Branded Tilt 2.
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I'm no expert, but I'm almost sure Sense 2.1 and TouchFLO3D are different, since icon packs are specified either for TouchFLO or for Sense.
josemald said:
I'm no expert, but I'm almost sure Sense 2.1 and TouchFLO3D are different, since icon packs are specified either for TouchFLO or for Sense.
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I believe the last "TF3D" was in winmo 6.1, and starting with 6.5 it became the sense interface...and to further confuse things, the last version of TF3D and the first version of sense (on winmo anyway) are both referred to as "2.1" So, in other words, there exists both a TF3D 2.1 and a Sense 2.1, but they're not exactly the same thing.
Ahh, well then, I have TouchFLO3D v2.1. It actually says "TouchFLO3D" when the plugin is loading. I didn't think there was a difference. My mistake. So I guess my question should be, "Is there a weather clock, like that in Sense 2.5, that will run on TouchFLO3D v2.1?"
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Ahh, well then, I have TouchFLO3D v2.1. It actually says "TouchFLO3D" when the plugin is loading. I didn't think there was a difference. My mistake. So I guess my question should be, "Is there a weather clock, like that in Sense 2.5, that will run on TouchFLO3D v2.1?"
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I hate to be the one to say this but no. you will need to flash an updated rom that has Sense in it. The stock att rom doesnt have the needed files for it to work
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I believe the last "TF3D" was in winmo 6.1, and starting with 6.5 it became the sense interface...and to further confuse things, the last version of TF3D and the first version of sense (on winmo anyway) are both referred to as "2.1" So, in other words, there exists both a TF3D 2.1 and a Sense 2.1, but they're not exactly the same thing.
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Nope, my new Tilt 2 had TF3D and Winmo 6.5. To my knowledge sense is an adaptation from other devices that the sense interface has been skimmed from and cooked into a custom rom. I don't believe there is any way to get the Home screen weather on a stock Tilt 2 rom with TF3D. Upgrade to a custom rom, it is worth it, even though you will find yourself forever tinkering with your phone from the day you flash your first one.
Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
You made me laugh Manilla 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE does NOT excist. Manilla = Sense...
Manilla 2.1 is called sense.
Manilla 2.5 is called sense.
Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
Talon Pro said:
Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
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dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
Hold ur fire!! This make me a little confused too. So what's real difference between Manila & Sense??
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
radon222 said:
Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
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Using any numbers in the search (simple or advanced) gains only an error, which is why i posted. Try searching for '15 tabs' and itll go to the advanced search page with 'No results'...
kitchencop said:
dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
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Well, you remain wrong on that
Mektah said:
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
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I disagree a little, there IS a difference between Manila 2.1 and 2.1 w/Sense. Try putting a Sense item on regular 2.1 and watch it break. I tried PPCgeeks.com to sort out the TP2 stuff, got much support, but they didnt do anything about it. When you ask for customized stuff, everyone assumes youre using a cooked version of 6.5 (which has Sense 2.1 or 2.5 depending the ROM/Chef), not 6.1, and then the Manila version gets even more in the way of stuff.
I mean i like my TP2, it works like the TP1 should have, but the TP1 had so much more support for the stock ROM's and 6.1.
Talon Pro said:
Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
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For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
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For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
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Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Talon Pro said:
Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
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Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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Yes it was the one i wanted. Now im looking for a taskbar of the same lol. I didnt know that HDWalls was a program, thought it was just a 'image on all tabs' thing.
Thanks.
How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
Talon Pro said:
How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
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Navigation Icon? I don't have a 'navigation' tab on my 6.1, so I'm guessing that it's not part of the regular set of tabs and therefore there's not a provision for it in the usual list of manila files for the icons.
If you (or somebody) can just pin down the exact name of the manila file for that specfic tab's icons, you can use HDWalls to create one (for a different tab), and then just rename it to match the odd manila file related to the nav. tab. Let me know if that makes sense...I can do it better than I can describe it lol
I have the Touch Pro2 which still has TF3D 2.1 (non-sense lol).
How do i go about locating it? I know the files are in the Windows folder, but how to view them? Guess ill do some google searching too.
I also want the comm manager tab and the programs tab back, that was on the TP1...
Try CFC GUI and make your icons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
Have never heard of a navigation tab though, but if exists, you'll be able to find it with CFC GUI