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Hi,
I have been using my vario II since December and intend to get rid of it when i can upgrade as windows mobile is really poor. I mean windows is bad enough on a pc let alone a phone!
Anyhow i just want to do something really simple, I would like to add large icons to my today screen for some programs i use a lot like IE and Salling clicker (so i dont have to keep going ot start). Am I missing something really basic or do i have to go through a load of tweaks to do it.
This is why windows mobile is so poor becuase it shouldnt be this difficult to do something basic.
Thanks
WM itself cannot do that. You'll need to install some other software. Try cLaunch.. if you are more adverturous try rlToday.
that is why i hate windows mobile, its not user friendly at all. I mean i just want to add some icons to my today screen, the problem with windows mobile it may offer extra features but its at the expense of ease of use.
e.g. phone profiles, silent etc if i want to activate them on a nokia i just press the on-off button
never mind, i knew what i was getting into when i bought a windows mobile device, when my upgrade comes around i will just get a normal phone and use the vario II as a bluetooth remote control.
Well, you may want to try using the SmartKey, which takes the left key, if you were to press and hold it, it will open the 'Start Menu', and using your D-pad, it is easy enough to open programs.
As for phone profiles, you can press and hold your 'Communication manager' button and it will go into silent mode. If rather than having 2 phone, you may want to try other programs like.. er.. the.. SPB Shell, that makes WM phone looks like normal phone.
to be fair i know i know how to use the phone, i mean all i want to do is change the icons on the today screen so i can just tap on them and load them! I mean its all well and good having 100s of functions but if you cant access them easily what is the point?
I really think people are crying out for devices which are easy to use and ready to go our of the box, not one where you have to make endless tweaks! Windows mobile is certainly not that, perhaps the new iphone will make a difference.
Well, for one thing, WM device has this 'Today' screen which is one of the unique thing that, other devices (e.g. Palm, iPhone) doesn't have. From my point of view and my usage pattern, I'd much prefer the Today screen than a launch pad.
SPB pocket plus or Mobile Shell will let you add icons to your today screen
hi thanks
i have downloaded spb pocket plus and it has allowed me to add the icons, can you just tell me what is better the shell or pocket plus and what are the drawbacks of pocket plus ? it reminds me of norton i.e. it has a massive footprint and wants to take over your whole system! I have tried to reduce it as much as i can.
I used the gprs monitor a few months back and it slowed my system and effected battery life.
thanks for your help though
cLaunch is less fancy, and small. . and free.
HTC home pluginn
The HTC home plugins (the one from the touch and the one from Kaiser) are not exactly what you are looking for but also can help you.
Those plugins change your today screen and add a TAB where you can put 9 favorite applications and launch them by a simple click on the screen, also gives you a contact tab that is usefull ...you can search for those pluggins in the WM6 section... for me it has worked fine.
Regards
the HTC home plug in is god awful ugly tho.
I thought the HTC Home plug was beautiful. I like the new one even more that has a tab for photo contacts! However, I don't use it on my phone because it seems to make everything take twice as long. Uninstalled it and my phone was zippy again. I use SPB Pocket Plus for icons on today screen and SPB Photo Suite for contacts on the today screen.
chaz_redux said:
to be fair i know i know how to use the phone, i mean all i want to do is change the icons on the today screen so i can just tap on them and load them! I mean its all well and good having 100s of functions but if you cant access them easily what is the point?
I really think people are crying out for devices which are easy to use and ready to go our of the box, not one where you have to make endless tweaks! Windows mobile is certainly not that, perhaps the new iphone will make a difference.
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keep in mind that even with the advanced amount of funtions, they need to be organized somehow.
You also may want to look into PHM Tray Launch. You can have smaller icons placed in the system tray so access your favorite applications. (PM me if u want it, I can't upload it cause of the file extension)
Hi there,
I know this has been discussed over and over, but I cannot seem to find the answer without installing third-party applications:
I would like to have more items in the Start menu. Normally this wouldn't fit on the screen, but with the brilliant HD screen there can be at least 4 more.
Is there a way to do this without installing other applications. Can some registry-tweak help perhaps? Any help welcome!
Thanks in advance!
No one...?!
No one have the urge to have more startmenu-items too.?
I personally hate menu style of launching application. Tried such utility before on a VGA device, not sure if they still work on a WVGA device.
Small menu is one such program. It's free.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-smallmenu-3-19.html
I much prefer to use something like iLauncher, or SPB Mobile Shell. They are more finger friendly, and takes less effort to launch IMO.
I agree...
Yeah i agree, i have tryied a lot af different 3´rd party aplikations over the years but i allway turn back to SPB Mobile shell og SPB Pocket Plus
Thanx for all the kind replies..
But as I said, I do not want to install any third-party software. I Like the Startmenu as it is, I only would like to ad a few buttons.
Any one else have a tweak for how to do this?
Really no one wanting more items in the Startmenu?
Anyone who knows how this can be done?
(see the first post)
Hi everyone, I have been following this forum for a while but this is my first question:
I am happy with the task manager that comes with our Hds but... it only shows the running programs when one is at the home page.
I'd really like to be able to switch task from anywhere (any running program).
Can this be achieved in any way? I would be happy if I could map a button with AEBPlus to perform it.
Thanks in advance
I am wondering about this too. I find i have to switch from program to another program quite often. Not having to go to the home page to switch would be a good thing for me.
Try PBar 1.5,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483771&highlight=Pbar+1.5
Yes, I have successfully used pBar in the past with other devices...
...but it seems like a bit of a pity that we have to install yet another 3rd party application (no matter how light it is) to do something that software that is already installed in our devices is (potentially) capable of, ain't it?
I have tried AEBPLus with no luck, more ideas?
Any solution so far? Does anyone know what's the command line for htc task manager?
I'd recommend magicbutton (freeware). Its always the first app I install on a fresh WM device. It works in any application that isn't "fullscreen". So if you can see the system menu at the top of the screen you can use it. Has an optional simple single pixel battery power meter on the top of the screen too that I always use.
Development & Monetizing now easier than ever with XPERIA™ Panels and PlayNow™ arena
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/s....jsp?link_general=article-windowsmobilesubmit
will this be available to x1? (
what do you mean exactly ? you can use the panelizer tools also to make panels for the x1!
- QuadWord
# Java Panelizer – turns jad/jar in to a Panel
# Flash Panelizer – turns Adobe Flash swf in to a Panel
# EXE Panelizer – turns existing EXE application in to a Panel
# NET Panelizer – turns existing .net application in to a Panel
no one think this stuf is interesting? :\
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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maybe this can be useful on converting MS3.5 and TouchFLO3D as panels...
can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
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can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
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did you tried that?
MykeChester said:
did you tried that?
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That's for the old touchflo not the new rhodium one
yeah ages ago it worked fine no issues at all, ran very good but maybe took a few seconds to load after selecting the panel.
also you could have second today panel and have that as MS3.5 so there you go
cant find the link for second today but i think its in here somewhere
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500237
Jasand said:
can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
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killer8nl said:
That's for the old touchflo not the new rhodium one
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@Jasand: i hope you got my point...
I dont follow touchflo so have no idea on what is what,
No problem anyhow, i spose i had u goin there for a little while
darthmelk said:
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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Thank you for this. People should start using their brains.
darthmelk said:
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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Well I wouldn't say that the concept is illogical It works, and there are at least two decent panel interfaces out there, namely Mobile Shell, Point UI2.
As for running the concept of running an application as a panel. It makes sense for *some* programs. These are type of program that either you want assigned to the end key/running as your background and that could be potentially be processor intensive. Some examples are:
Movie players come to mind, as does music software for when I am running/working out - they are all I need at the moment, and I want to be able to get back to them quickly if I find myself in another application.
GPS software is awesome for this use, b/c it is something you always want accessible at the tap of the end button while you are driving, and when you are done driving, you don't want it minimized you want it closed.
Skype is also good b/c I don't want it running the background when I am done, as it drains battery, and I do want to be able to call it up at the push of the end button when I am using it.
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Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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That's exactly what I do.
I use 3 or 4 different homescreens regarding to what I need through the day.
(SE Panels, WM standard, SE Media Panel).
For me the concept works great.
i personally think the panel manager should be operating like the photo album panel, but in a circular motion, instead of selecting pics, select panels...the concept of only having 9 active panels are pure bull%$*t i use my panels and i know more will come i may like before i ditch the xperia, and having to replace a panel just to use it is just dumb, right now i am even changing panels so i can use em, i prefer to see the facebook panel than the app itself, the panel has more eyecandy, i only use the app when i need to leave comments on posts
I like having different interfaces. For example these tools would allow for someone to make a panel for themselves (since its not freeware) of Kinoma Play.
Also SPB MS3.5 since it is not a panel yet.
Providing end-users with these tools would allow the creation of more useful panels not just the few panels that we have already seen.
I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
Also have they actually cut the tasks app out in which case whats above has been pointless?
Noam23 said:
I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
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I'm pretty sure it will be possible to use MS 3.5 on HD2, although I understand your point. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if (or should I say when ) someone comes with a solution.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
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I think no version. But for those of us who use the phone for work, and hence need tasks, they gave the wonderful option of defeating MANILA and installing a productive UI that support tasks.
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
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It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
Noam23 said:
It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
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lol but yeh, they dont see them as an important fact to be used, cant be helped really.
Noam23 said:
Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
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Yeh well i have problems on mine and its qvga, i found that adding the start/end times helped alot with finger use, on the front screen at least...
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
rebecker said:
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
If I wanted a "closed environment" where people decide for me what I want to see and how I want it to be presented, I would have gone with an iPhone. WM devices suppose to be all about customization and free choice, but HTC completely misses the mark here in their desperate try to produce an "iPhone killer".
Noam23 said:
Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it, it's all about eye candy and wow factor. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
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I've never had the tasks on my screen even now with Spb MS (MS Tasks are buggy on my TyTN II). So, I guess we all just have different ways of working and different needs in our phone. I actually never had my calendar on the main screen either because I don't want anyone to see at a glance who I was meeting with next (again, an individual requirement based on my job needs).
I believe the items at the bottom of the screen can be cherry-picked (maybe even reordered) for individual preferences.
While I haven't tried this phone, I see no negatives when compared to my 2-year old phone and several positives, including web browsing and speed. And I AM impressed with the eye-candy.
-Bob-
hey noam23
I don't like manila, not only because of tasks but just in general I think that spb ms does a better job of letting you customize.
I'm sure that someone will make it possible to turn it off and/or make it possible to run spb ms. that will be a crucial thing for me for sure.
I'm sure some
Before my Touch Pro went back to be fixed I had SPB set up as a soft key. I can't remember how I did it now but it was perfect for how I wanted it. It would be nice if you could add the SPB icon onto your main screen on the Leo.
So let me get this right: you want to be able to see tasks on your home tab. But Manila doesn't support them and you can't switch it off?
I think I have a solution for you: buy another phone! Simple isn't it?
a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
THE GRIZZ said:
a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
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Interesting... the question is how doable is this ?
Is it fact that we will not be able to use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 on top of manilla??... to get best of both worlds
rebecker said:
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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Me to. I have concerns about PI's usability on a capacitive screen. I use it on an even larger X7500 (albeit at 128 DPi) and it's pretty unworkable without a stylus.
I was going to get a Leo straight away but I think I need to wait for a few reports on how it gets on with these business style applications.
Of course you can disable sense/manila...
You can also use the new MS titanium or nothing at all if you want..
What kind of fool would think that you can't?
then get another phone, pretty simple. i need winmo for work so i couldnt get an iphone, u need tasks for work dont get the leo.
its amazing to me how much people complain about things that arent even out yet
Hmm can't there be a sort of Tasks Widget to be used with the Sense UI?
Why buy another phone? And why a Tasks widget? (the thing discussed is to having tasks ON the home screen(s). 'fards' say that SPBMS will work on HD2 so that is a pretty good solution
I think that when HTC says officially that the new manila was not like the olders and that will be impossible to disable, maybe this manila on hd2 have drivers or software running in background with the multitouch for other programs or so, so I dont think until I see that we will can use MS3.5 or similar as soon as we get the devce