Development & Monetizing now easier than ever with XPERIA™ Panels and PlayNow™ arena
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/s....jsp?link_general=article-windowsmobilesubmit
will this be available to x1? (
what do you mean exactly ? you can use the panelizer tools also to make panels for the x1!
- QuadWord
# Java Panelizer – turns jad/jar in to a Panel
# Flash Panelizer – turns Adobe Flash swf in to a Panel
# EXE Panelizer – turns existing EXE application in to a Panel
# NET Panelizer – turns existing .net application in to a Panel
no one think this stuf is interesting? :\
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
darthmelk said:
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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maybe this can be useful on converting MS3.5 and TouchFLO3D as panels...
can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
Jasand said:
can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
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did you tried that?
MykeChester said:
did you tried that?
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That's for the old touchflo not the new rhodium one
yeah ages ago it worked fine no issues at all, ran very good but maybe took a few seconds to load after selecting the panel.
also you could have second today panel and have that as MS3.5 so there you go
cant find the link for second today but i think its in here somewhere
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500237
Jasand said:
can you not already get touch flo as a panel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878314&postcount=3
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That's for the old touchflo not the new rhodium one
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@Jasand: i hope you got my point...
I dont follow touchflo so have no idea on what is what,
No problem anyhow, i spose i had u goin there for a little while
darthmelk said:
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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Thank you for this. People should start using their brains.
darthmelk said:
Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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Well I wouldn't say that the concept is illogical It works, and there are at least two decent panel interfaces out there, namely Mobile Shell, Point UI2.
As for running the concept of running an application as a panel. It makes sense for *some* programs. These are type of program that either you want assigned to the end key/running as your background and that could be potentially be processor intensive. Some examples are:
Movie players come to mind, as does music software for when I am running/working out - they are all I need at the moment, and I want to be able to get back to them quickly if I find myself in another application.
GPS software is awesome for this use, b/c it is something you always want accessible at the tap of the end button while you are driving, and when you are done driving, you don't want it minimized you want it closed.
Skype is also good b/c I don't want it running the background when I am done, as it drains battery, and I do want to be able to call it up at the push of the end button when I am using it.
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Sounds pretty useless. In fact, the whole panel concept is illogical. Why not just run the program you need and minimize it when you have to do something else? If you open a program in a panel, when you switch panels the program will be closed.
The panels would be useful if we had a few good interfaces. For example one day to run MS3, another day standard WM6.5 menu, another day TouchFLO3D. But why use panels to open applications???
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That's exactly what I do.
I use 3 or 4 different homescreens regarding to what I need through the day.
(SE Panels, WM standard, SE Media Panel).
For me the concept works great.
i personally think the panel manager should be operating like the photo album panel, but in a circular motion, instead of selecting pics, select panels...the concept of only having 9 active panels are pure bull%$*t i use my panels and i know more will come i may like before i ditch the xperia, and having to replace a panel just to use it is just dumb, right now i am even changing panels so i can use em, i prefer to see the facebook panel than the app itself, the panel has more eyecandy, i only use the app when i need to leave comments on posts
I like having different interfaces. For example these tools would allow for someone to make a panel for themselves (since its not freeware) of Kinoma Play.
Also SPB MS3.5 since it is not a panel yet.
Providing end-users with these tools would allow the creation of more useful panels not just the few panels that we have already seen.
Related
In my MDA Compact (magician) - I used to have a "new" button which allowed me to write a new: note, appointment, task, reminder, phatpad, phatnote etc...
This is missing on the Wizard - and now to make a new note - I need to first start the note application and then click on new note...
Why??? windows mobile was supposed to make life easier - and in reality I have yet ot see any improvement - interface wise...
I can say though that the device is VERY stable.
urrrrgh...
I am just guessing at the "why", but having the buttons this way allows them to perform different tasks in different applications. I also loved the NEW button for creating tasks and appts. But I have other Today apps that let me do the same thing, so it has just been a matter of training myself to find better ways.
Some apps let you create a shortcut to a new item and this coul dbe mapped to the "new" and improved buttons.
OK, I am interested to know which plugin you are using?
Pocket Breeze.
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lisa1982 said:
OK, I am interested to know which plugin you are using?
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SpB Pocket diary does the same thing you can enter from today screen all the things you missed now..
Guys,
Do we have a CAB file for either iLauncher (http://www.sbsh.net/products/ilauncher/index.php?page=summary) full version or something similar that will allow us to create our own shortcuts on the today screen?
Control your Pocket PC using the all new iLauncher, packing together the most important set of utilities to better manage your Pocket PC!
iLauncher is an all-in-one application that brings the most powerful utilities that are missing from the Pocket PC operating system to your Pocket PC device in one package. These include: A tab-based launcher Today screen plugin with various information widgets such as battery and memory meters, speed dial shortcuts, screen capture utility and more; A task manager context menu that allows you to track and control the current active applications; A true 'X' button functionality that really shuts-down running applications as opposed to simply minimizing them; A safe-mode protection utility that makes sure your device will always initialize correctly and much more!
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Hawk
yes, wisbar advance desktop
its amazing, and does exactly what you want, also has the option to add meters such as battery or ram and other great stuff, including today plugins, except calendar. Can also be made to look like an iphone [like mine]. It has unlimited possibilities and you can do whatever you want with it. And the best bit, only 10 usd (5gbp) amazing i know! screenshots of mine if you really need them!
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Advance+Desktop
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oh yeah, its a great plugin. Well worth the money.
Don't warez.
never seen this before, looks almost identical to spb pocket plus today screen
pff pocketage or WAD(or both)
Recomended
Use Claunch, very similar to iLaunch, only free. Sorry no link, just have to google it.
I have used Claunch for several months om WM5 and it was perfect, but after upgrading to WM6 i'm having some troubles with it. it for sure will not work together with HTC taskmanager 2. it would be very nice if they came up with a stable WM6 version
It is stable for me, now that I use WA3, it sometimes would not appear on my today screen without a refresh before I moved up to WA3, never liked the htc taskmanager much, there are so many taskmanagers, wisbar is the king in my book.
The basis for this thread is pretty simple.
Let’s create a list of ideas that could possibly be turned into xperia panels.
I figured that since the xda forums are pretty much the first place you would go for to get info it would also be a good starting point to initialise ideas for panels.
Turboguard mentioned some already.
Turboguard said:
like a Youtube panel, facebook panel etc.
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The YouTube panel for example could be the "YouTube DeskTop Version software" integrated into a xml panel with an ability to choose other popular streams.
My suggestion would be a panel that allows you to remotely control winamp or wmp through bluetooh. There are tons of applications out there that do the job already but it would be awesome to have an acctual dedicated panel for it with maybe 4 big buttons and some track information.
I used to use a program called ControlFreak on my symbian that pretty much turned my phone into a remote control.. I wouldn’t mind having the same type of feel for winmo.
Maybe there will be coders out there who might be interested in turning the top suggestions from this topic into actual panels.
So fire away with your suggestions guys!!! ))
1 A ps3 bluetooth remote panel.
2 A blank panel similar to G-desk on uiq where u can make your own desktop as you wish with as many pages, shortcuts etc as you want.
3 A panel similar to fish panel but more colourful with different creatures.
As has been mentioned on other forums a BBC iPlayer for us UK users would be cool - given that Apple iPhone has one I can't believe they still haven't got a streaming client for WinMo yet....
A panel which has a nicer interface for email (as opposed to the rather drab version under WinMo)....
I'll think of some more later
Ah - for those interested in such things (and I am not) social networking panels i.e. Facebook etc. would actually really push on the phone in terms of popularity and thus attract more developers to the Panels concept....
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2 A blank panel similar to G-desk on uiq where u can make your own desktop as you wish with as many pages, shortcuts etc as you want.
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Yeah, i miss my old G-Desk after leaving UIQ for Xperia.
I also miss a way to reinstall the original panels. I have lost some of them, today panel and media panel, after trying out sbp mobile shell. You can not download them and i dont want to do a reset.
What about a coreplayer panel? Just as a shortcut of the prog, like the media panel, but for the coreplayer.. Or just an DivX panel dunno, but I think a more detailed multimedia panel would be useful.. But I think hard work tough:s greez, cad^^
up2mee said:
Yeah, i miss my old G-Desk after leaving UIQ for Xperia.
I also miss a way to reinstall the original panels. I have lost some of them, today panel and media panel, after trying out sbp mobile shell. You can not download them and i dont want to do a reset.
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I think there is a way, look in windows folder, there is some cab's there that could be something, worth trying...
A youtube/online video panel and a facebook panel would be GREAT!
And I really liked Rontysee idea about a blank one where u can do whatever u like =)
smaberg said:
I think there is a way, look in windows folder, there is some cab's there that could be something, worth trying...
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Good idea, but there are no cab for MediaExperiencePanel or SonyEricssonPanel.
I had to restore them by restore the registry. Lucky for me that i had a backup.
It is a bit strange that you can not get the original panels from SonyEricsson download.
from what i've been able to see from looking at the sonyE sdk
then it should not be too much trouble porting any pure win32 c++
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with .net one may have to make a c++ win32 stub which launch the .net
program in a frame
So who is going to be the first one to make a customized panel thats not official? I bet its going to be one from Xda =)
How about an appointment panel with all your appointments categorized and updated?
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from what i've been able to see from looking at the sonyE sdk
then it should not be too much trouble porting any pure win32 c++
program into a panel
with .net one may have to make a c++ win32 stub which launch the .net
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That sounds pretty encouraging!! All we need to do now is find a programmer))
ds07 said:
How about an appointment panel with all your appointments categorized and updated?
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I second that!!!
FunkyMike said:
My suggestion would be a panel that allows you to remotely control winamp or wmp through bluetooh. There are tons of applications out there that do the job already but it would be awesome to have an acctual dedicated panel for it with maybe 4 big buttons and some track information.
I used to use a program called ControlFreak on my symbian that pretty much turned my phone into a remote control.. I wouldn’t mind having the same type of feel for winmo.
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Sounds like you might be interested in this program if the author made it into a panel format
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427097
They are supposed to be having a panel contest for a free X1 at Sony.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440450
How about a Blackberry Connect panel? similar to the desktop of the Blackberry bold?
Market and Stock ticker panel
Flight, airport and destination info panel (a WorldMate Pro panel would be awesome!!)
Foreign Currency Exchange panel
Google Calculator panel (see yahoo widget of same name)
World Map & Time panel
News & RSS panel
Blackberry connect panel
Skype panel
Youtube panel
Facebook panel
LinkedIn panel
Meebo panel
Yeah - I travel a lot.....
Developer competition for X1
Hi all, I was pointed to this forum at inxperia.com because of this conversation about panels.
Thought you might like advance warning of a competition for windows mobile developers to build panels for the X1. Winner gets an X1 and their panels installed on the next batch of X1's.
I've posted more details on my blog. Hope you'll be interested
i wish as a panel, the TASKMANAGER DYNAMO. (the xperia panels are not comparable to a taskmanager with screenshot function.like dynomo... *G)
dynamo looks like xperia panels, but it takes actual screenshots of all opened applications, every time you switch the app.
it will integrate perfect to sony`s/htc`s (*G) UI design and will enhance it extremly.
thats, what in xperia`s panels is missing.
>"Panel Panel" if 9 panels aren't just enough
>Virtual pet panel
>I agree with the email panel
>Txt/MMS panel
>Panel with a "Cursor" (for optical trackpad)
>Instant Msging panel
>Windows Vista panel/shell (something like SPB)
looking at this site: http://xperiancers.com/2008/09/26/your-xperia-questions-answered/
To the right, there's a tag cloud could be a panel that links to apps, the more you use the app, the bigger/bolder the font.
AND the panel program must update there`s icons with actual screenshots of running apps.
(spezially the fish tank`s time!! and status of the fishes!)
Must Have 4 Free Spb Panel
here is a free cool panel: SPB panel 4 free!
(german version)
sonyericsson.com/downloads/fd/91/SpbMobileShell_DE_Panel_X1.cab
(for other languages)
sonyericsson.com/fun/fnd?cc=de&lc=de&lf_res=gb#ts=1222888020290;applstate=contentlisting.contentdetails;contentCategoryId=800;filterId=0;genreId=-1;startIndex=0;phoneId=-1;contentItemId=34685;promotionId=0
the x1`s inbuild links aren`t working... :-(
Which one is the best according to you for regular use? (not asking for listening to music or using FB)
at the moment i prefer PointUI Home2, i think the Pro version is gonna be great, if more plugins keep coming
Pointui Home2 is the best by far.
Its easy to use,
install direct as a pannel no messing about,
very Fast,
easy to change themes,
applets are awesome just pick what ones you need,
very fast releases on new themes and applets,
exellent support from the site
and best of all its all free.
they are even working on a music applet to play music from the home screen.
other pannels seem slow, un customisable and dont have all the features you need.
i have mannila pannel, navigation pannel and the generic pannels supplied. mannila is good but hard to customise.
i like the fish pannel but its not practical, just good for showing off.
The best is the original SE Panel (1, 2, MxP, etc).
TF3D is less responsive, and once installed, make the X1 very slow (compared to an original X1) in many action.
I also think that PointUI Home2 is the best panel ... I hardly ever use touchflow .. every now and then spb mobile shell however the one I use the most is probably the standard today screen with resco contact manager etc.
Generally I switch between panels a lot though ... its great fun
I don't like PointUI and I find TF3D not well adapted yet
I love the fish panel, and chicks love it too
the fish thingy is good for entertaining my kid... thats about it
i think the whole concept of panels is just stupid:
-slow and poorly implemented and programed takes about 10 seconds to do something that can easily be done 2 seconds with a shortcut
-to me, its seems only good to show off to dumb friends.
-not good for practical use. none of the x1 uesers i know depend on it
-im sure sony delayed the release of the phone at least 3-4 months just to get it working fine.... they never did and even if they did, no one really cares
I love the panels.
I constantly switch between 2 SE Panels, one of them rich of functions and apps,
the other plain and esthetic.
I also love the Media panel.
Definitely great concept for me, since you can have completely different homescreens, with all apps available still through the normal menus.
Awesome.
@ GRIZZ, you're missing the point if you think you're supposed to use the panels to go from program to program. I love the panels because I use them sort of like profiles. For work I use the original SE Panel and PointUI, for weekends and evenings I'll use PointUi or occasionally Manilla and for bedtime I use the fish panel. I'm not constantly changing panels during the day, only as I transition from work to play, etc.
BTW, the PointUI qualifies for me as the "best in show" for the reasons mentioned by the previous poster.
am using Pointui Home2 and waiting for the next update in the next 48hrs which has loads of new features making it even easier and more intuitive to use... was a huge spb fan but found it too plain - Home2 is totally customizeable and with the development community releasing new themes and apps every day its become easier to use than anything else so far...
I'm with the Grizz - panels are pretty silly. The concept isn't bad, but it never feels right to use a button press, then a screen press (or two), then wait 10 more seconds for the panel to creep up.
If the X button could just shuffle through them quickly, they would be great.
I'm not sure I understand why SPB mobile shell can snap between screens instantaneously, but when I switch to an SE panel, I can almost see each individual icon being drawn...
Microsoft Today
yeah! you heard it right. it is the best. if i want more information i use today plugins. it is the most efficient way ofgetting the information i want. all other panels i use them to impress people. especially manila touchflo3d. its more annoying than useful.
i think mobile shell panel is the best. it's easy to use and has very good gui.
Media Panel : )
I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
Also have they actually cut the tasks app out in which case whats above has been pointless?
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I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.
I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).
What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.
To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...
Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.
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I'm pretty sure it will be possible to use MS 3.5 on HD2, although I understand your point. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if (or should I say when ) someone comes with a solution.
honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...
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I think no version. But for those of us who use the phone for work, and hence need tasks, they gave the wonderful option of defeating MANILA and installing a productive UI that support tasks.
Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!
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It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
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It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).
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lol but yeh, they dont see them as an important fact to be used, cant be helped really.
Noam23 said:
Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.
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Yeh well i have problems on mine and its qvga, i found that adding the start/end times helped alot with finger use, on the front screen at least...
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
If I wanted a "closed environment" where people decide for me what I want to see and how I want it to be presented, I would have gone with an iPhone. WM devices suppose to be all about customization and free choice, but HTC completely misses the mark here in their desperate try to produce an "iPhone killer".
Noam23 said:
Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.
I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it, it's all about eye candy and wow factor. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).
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I've never had the tasks on my screen even now with Spb MS (MS Tasks are buggy on my TyTN II). So, I guess we all just have different ways of working and different needs in our phone. I actually never had my calendar on the main screen either because I don't want anyone to see at a glance who I was meeting with next (again, an individual requirement based on my job needs).
I believe the items at the bottom of the screen can be cherry-picked (maybe even reordered) for individual preferences.
While I haven't tried this phone, I see no negatives when compared to my 2-year old phone and several positives, including web browsing and speed. And I AM impressed with the eye-candy.
-Bob-
hey noam23
I don't like manila, not only because of tasks but just in general I think that spb ms does a better job of letting you customize.
I'm sure that someone will make it possible to turn it off and/or make it possible to run spb ms. that will be a crucial thing for me for sure.
I'm sure some
Before my Touch Pro went back to be fixed I had SPB set up as a soft key. I can't remember how I did it now but it was perfect for how I wanted it. It would be nice if you could add the SPB icon onto your main screen on the Leo.
So let me get this right: you want to be able to see tasks on your home tab. But Manila doesn't support them and you can't switch it off?
I think I have a solution for you: buy another phone! Simple isn't it?
a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
THE GRIZZ said:
a better solution is to replace the win6.5 lock screen with s2u2 it will show the tasks as soon as you turn on the phone
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Interesting... the question is how doable is this ?
Is it fact that we will not be able to use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 on top of manilla??... to get best of both worlds
rebecker said:
I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.
-Bob-
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Me to. I have concerns about PI's usability on a capacitive screen. I use it on an even larger X7500 (albeit at 128 DPi) and it's pretty unworkable without a stylus.
I was going to get a Leo straight away but I think I need to wait for a few reports on how it gets on with these business style applications.
Of course you can disable sense/manila...
You can also use the new MS titanium or nothing at all if you want..
What kind of fool would think that you can't?
then get another phone, pretty simple. i need winmo for work so i couldnt get an iphone, u need tasks for work dont get the leo.
its amazing to me how much people complain about things that arent even out yet
Hmm can't there be a sort of Tasks Widget to be used with the Sense UI?
Why buy another phone? And why a Tasks widget? (the thing discussed is to having tasks ON the home screen(s). 'fards' say that SPBMS will work on HD2 so that is a pretty good solution
I think that when HTC says officially that the new manila was not like the olders and that will be impossible to disable, maybe this manila on hd2 have drivers or software running in background with the multitouch for other programs or so, so I dont think until I see that we will can use MS3.5 or similar as soon as we get the devce