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Three clear plastic sections on the back of the display?

With the keyboard out and texting my fingers resting behind the display keep peeling up one of the clear plastic pieces. They look as though they are meant to be removed. The middle one even looks to have a tab. ???

Indeed. I didn't notice it until you told me. My advice would be to leave them there as long as they are still undamaged. They are probably there for a reason.

Tanquen said:
They look as though they are meant to be removed.
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If they look like they are meant to be removed then maybe they ARE meant to be removed
I peeled them off on the very first day and the case haven't fallen to pieces yet

if u mean those plastics that are similiar to the one on the screen wehn u bought it yes i also took em of first day i got my x1

TAKE THEM OFF!!! One of the biggest thing on my annoyance list is when people leave the sticky plastic on new nelectronic devices such as phones/dvd players etc!! GRRRRR

vinokirk said:
TAKE THEM OFF!!! One of the biggest thing on my annoyance list is when people leave the sticky plastic on new nelectronic devices such as phones/dvd players etc!! GRRRRR
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Ok, ok!!!! It was just the fact that they are a bit under the other half and they don’t stop it from working. Not holding something close while in transit or what not. Sometimes I’ve even seen the removal of such things documented, like on printers and such. Don’t get me started on the battery cover and the paranoia enduing cracked/paint chip threads. I thought they may be needed for spacing. Something is putting little rub marks on the return key.

vinokirk said:
TAKE THEM OFF!!! One of the biggest thing on my annoyance list is when people leave the sticky plastic on new nelectronic devices such as phones/dvd players etc!! GRRRRR
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Or people having all the crappy stickers on their cameras/laptops etc etc..
It's even worse if they are sticked onto the device crooked :S

vinokirk said:
TAKE THEM OFF!!! One of the biggest thing on my annoyance list is when people leave the sticky plastic on new nelectronic devices such as phones/dvd players etc!! GRRRRR
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Hell yes! I hate that too! My sister had a washing machine that had all the promotional stickers on it that were for the shop display, including "Free sample washing powder inside" they were still there 18mths later!

apprentice said:
Hell yes! I hate that too! My sister had a washing machine that had all the promotional stickers on it that were for the shop display, including "Free sample washing powder inside" they were still there 18mths later!
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Isn't that just lovely. FTW
Yes, of course I removed the protection plastic

apprentice said:
Hell yes! I hate that too! My sister had a washing machine that had all the promotional stickers on it that were for the shop display, including "Free sample washing powder inside" they were still there 18mths later!
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Chuckle. Perhaps it improved the washing ability of the machine?
I also removed the stickers - seeing they have the handy "pull me" tab. Did think twice though, as in "leave the factory stickery on the screen until you get a brando ultraclear screen protector" vibe. That was of course until I thought, perhaps they might get stuck in the mechanism, and anyway, no one looks at the back anyway cause 50% it's closed, and when it's open the screen's on the other side (no insult - just my thought process).
Seriously though, I think it's awesome that they were there - yet another indication of a slick phone. (not just the front which is protected from scratches until the customer gets it.

Tanquen said:
Something is putting little rub marks on the return key.
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Really?
What sort of marks - maybe you have a picture?
I haven't noticed anything, and anyway - there should be enough clearance between the screen and the keyboard when it slides back and forth.. Unless of course it's the protector which is making the wear?

I am also getting "rub" marks, and i removed the plastic on day 1.
Not only on the return key, but also on the tab key.
It may also be on the windows key,and also the ok key, but its a bit early to say yet.
My phone will get some abuse, as i work in the building/Landscaping trade, and sand and grit is always finding its way into my pockets at work.
Also, i tend to keep my phone in a case, in my inside jacket pocket, and i would guess that it is being squeezed together quite a bit in daily motion. This might be closing the gap between keyboard and screen sections of the phone, thus causing the rubbing, and marking i am experiencing.
Hopefully in a few months, spare cases, and/or keypads should be available to buy, and i can restore my phone to its new glory. I have done this for all of my previous phones.

Why can't people just leave things as they are? I, for one, am leaving the plastic bits on the back as it makes no sense to me what so ever to peel them off.

OK. How fragile is the screen, really?

Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R

Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.

Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s

Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure

I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far

Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.

I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
: /

I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )

johncmolyneux said:
FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?

Spike15 said:
Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>

johncmolyneux said:
lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.

Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too

I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.

i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.

screen strength
being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R

Impunitus said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978

Camera scratches easily? Fixable in any way?

I have a small mark on my Camera already, and I've been handling my camera with extreme care this whole week/weekend thus far. I already have a pretty small scratch (not across the lens thankfully?) and I have no idea how it happened! Been moving my phone around very gently.
Is there anything I can do about the tiny scratch, or do I just have to live with it? I get pretty OCD about small things like this, so I need to make sure there's nothing I can do to try and remedy the scratch before flipping out.
Thanks everyone.

Kooper113 said:
I have a small mark on my Camera already, and I've been handling my camera with extreme care this whole week/weekend thus far. I already have a pretty small scratch (not across the lens thankfully?) and I have no idea how it happened! Been moving my phone around very gently.
Is there anything I can do about the tiny scratch, or do I just have to live with it? I get pretty OCD about small things like this, so I need to make sure there's nothing I can do to try and remedy the scratch before flipping out.
Thanks everyone.
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The Silicone Sleeve sprint sold me for $11 after 25% off (Premier) and Tax lifts it up off any table

Relax. You and everybody else's phone will become dinged up. You are carrying it around with you all day everyday.

You can use the kickstand to keep it off the table or desk and use a case or pouch for carrying.

Use a liquid lens fixer like for glasses.

I cut a little piece from some old cheap screen protectors to cover mine. I'm sure there is some effect on the picture quality, but no current phone is going to compare to a Cannon anyway.

Resisting Lens Scratch
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
Kurt

kurtwoodfin said:
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
Kurt
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Placing a rubber washer between the battery cover and the phone, would not do anything to keep the camera lens from resting on the surface that would scratch it.

kurtwoodfin said:
You can always buy a thick rubber washer and glue it around the camera lens. If you do not want to glue it, you can place it in between the cover and the phone. The solution is not fool proof, but it will work nicely to provide extra cushion and space. This solution is easy and cheap. The washer should not be to tight or small in diameter, so it does not interfere with the camera.
Kurt
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I was thinking something along the lines of this. Basically you just need a ring that rests around the lens.
Something similar to this comes to mind. Of course, you wouldn't need to have a new lens on it. Just a piece of metal.
This could be magnetic, or glued. You could probably rip the phone apart and replace the piece with a more protruding piece to do the same, but that's far more intrusive.
I'm sure we'll see commercial magnet like solutions for this. I mean, come on. A small magnetic ring is all we need. Someone is going to bank on that.

Or how about using hoverboard technology so the phone never touches anything, and hovers in midair? Geez people, buy a case.

Jye75 said:
Or how about using hoverboard technology so the phone never touches anything, and hovers in midair? Geez people, buy a case.
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Why cover the entire phone with a case when you can just put something around the lens?
I don't like cases. I think these devices were made to look and function in a certain way. If they "needed" a case it should have been built more robust.
I've had an iPhone 3G with no case for 2 years. I've also had no regrets.
Phone nudists unite!

ViViDboarder said:
Why cover the entire phone with a case when you can just put something around the lens?
I don't like cases. I think these devices were made to look and function in a certain way. If they "needed" a case it should have been built more robust.
I've had an iPhone 3G with no case for 2 years. I've also had no regrets.
Phone nudists unite!
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It was sarcasm. I too, like mine naked, the way it was born. I have a leather case on my hip to put it in when I'm not using it. Jabbing at the fact that people actually want an accessory to attach to the camera lens ring just to keep it from touching another surface and getting scratched, like there should obviously be a market for that. Anyone that anal about possibly scratching a cellphone camera lens... I'm surprised they EVER pull the phone out to do anything at all. (again, sarcasm)

Jye75 said:
It was sarcasm. I too, like mine naked, the way it was born. I have a leather case on my hip to put it in when I'm not using it. Jabbing at the fact that people actually want an accessory to attach to the camera lens ring just to keep it from touching another surface and getting scratched, like there should obviously be a market for that. Anyone that anal about possibly scratching a cellphone camera lens... I'm surprised they EVER pull the phone out to do anything at all. (again, sarcasm)
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Haha yea. It's a camera on a phone... My DSLR is in it's nice cushy case. My phone will reside, albeit tightly, in my pocket.

I put mine in my pocket up until today, when I got my HTC leather hip case. I got tired of the pocket lint getting in the earpiece grill.
Tip: use Scotch tape and a blunt tipped object to get the lint out of there.

Jye75 said:
I put mine in my pocket up until today, when I got my HTC leather hip case. I got tired of the pocket lint getting in the earpiece grill.
Tip: use Scotch tape and a blunt tipped object to get the lint out of there.
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I've never used one of those before. I always feel like there's a risk of it falling out. Are they pretty secure?

ViViDboarder said:
I've never used one of those before. I always feel like there's a risk of it falling out. Are they pretty secure?
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It's nice and snug. There's a hole on the bottom for your fingers to push the phone up to take it out. Magnetic flap, no metal button or anything, so no worries about phantom scratches. Stays close to the hip as well, and doesn't feel oversized or anything. Tight enough on the belt that I don't worry about it falling off.

Cool. I'll definitely check that out then. Thanks.

ViViDboarder said:
Cool. I'll definitely check that out then. Thanks.
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The one I have is from Sprint online: Part Number CFH2258R

I got a case for mine simply because I've dropped my iPod touch a few times and I'm pretty sure it'd be damaged by now if it didn't have a silicon skin, the EVO's camera worried me as well... The silicon skin Sprint sells seems a lil' bulkier than it has to be tho, and the button bumps aren't as defined as they could be (my iPod touch's skin actually made the buttons easier to press, quite the opposite here). I'm waiting for a different more glossy/smooth skin from Amzer to ship before I decide if I'll just go naked or what...

i found cameraphone lens protector circles at a store called daiso near by me. works great

make the phone heavier?

love the phone, but it feels TOO light and too cheap...
can you guys think of any way to make the phone heaver, but not make it fatter lol?

nearblack said:
love the phone, but it feels TOO light and too cheap...
can you guys think of any way to make the phone heaver, but not make it fatter lol?
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Return it and buy an iPhone.

There supposedly is a metal back plate coming out

nacron said:
There supposedly is a metal back plate coming out
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where did you hear that?

The heavier you make it the more weight comes down on it when and if you drop it the glass its strong but not indestructible
Still flashing , thanks to odin & tw

The Stealthguards "full body" screen protector adds just enough heft to the phone to make it feel nice in the hand. It's actually the only reason I keep it on. It only adds a few grams, but it's enough to make the phone feel not-so-cheap.

My question is "WHY?"
Light and cheap is two different things.

jackhuny said:
My question is "WHY?"
Light and cheap is two different things.
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nacron said:
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If anyone installs this, I'd be interested to hear if it affects the GPS antenna...or maybe it can't get worse!

I use a "mesh" cover available in multiple colors. They add just enough weight and thickness to overcome the "thin and light" feeling in larger hands.
There are cheap ones for a couple bucks and official "Galaxy S" ones that cost US$10-15.
I use the official one (black) and it does the job.

Some like the feel of the extended battery packs...
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The cases that T-Mobile had at launch add a substantial amount of weight. It will make it thicker though... But, it's protected and heavier.

If I were you id get this case http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772826 its cheap and it makes the phone heavier and its a great case

I bought the Body Glove chrome/flex case when i got the device and love it. Has added substantial thickness and heft without making it pocket heavy. It has a fully removable clip that rotates and has an adjustable kickstand that works well in either vertical or landscape mode. Also the clip acts as an excellent finger hold for when gaming or typing along with a gungrip/no slip style rubber backing plate.
Another bonus is it comes with a blank so you can completely remove clip and the stud it connects to, leaving the back flush.
Also google it. It does look good and definitely provides protection. I like how the chrome bezel is high enough to protect the screen if you put/drop it screen down, yet thin enough it doesnt get in the way.
All in all I give the case a 5/5 star rating.

It's nice for the phone to be heavier because if you're in the store and put it down you notice when you're walking away that your phone isn't in you hand if you've been fumbling bags, etc. and got a phone call while shopping. Like my HD2. There's no way I could have forgotten that thing when I had it, because of the weight. It's like walking out of the house without a ball cap. You never really think about it when it's there, but when it isn't you know it.
The vibrant does feel extremely cheap and way too light IMO without a cover on it. It's just too easy to lose or forget. Not to mention the plastic feels yucky if it's hot outside or you've been doing something that makes your hands perspire.
So I got a body glove.
HD2 was different, cause of the Aluminum. Didn't want or need a case for it.

Add some rocks to the charm loop.
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nearblack said:
love the phone, but it feels TOO light and too cheap...
can you guys think of any way to make the phone heaver, but not make it fatter lol?
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Tape some lead weights to the back of it but i dont see where that would make it feel more pricey.
I love the weight of my phone and with a case on it, it feels solid.

Vegastouch said:
Tape some lead weights to the back of it but i dont see where that would make it feel more pricey.
I love the weight of my phone and with a case on it, it feels solid.
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I used lead tape strips on my racket when I played tennis. You could put that stuff on the inside of the battery cover.

Vegastouch said:
Tape some lead weights to the back of it but i dont see where that would make it feel more pricey.
I love the weight of my phone and with a case on it, it feels solid.
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Yes. We've concluded that the weight with a case is fine.
The weight and feel of the phone without a case is not.
Well, I guess some people can dig it.
I didn't have a problem with my Aria or HD2. Those phones felt solid in my hand without a case.
The Vibrant doesn't. Feels like it could fall apart, so I didn't leave the store without a case when I got it.
And when I had to get a new one because of my first one getting snatched, I had the case waiting for it when it came in the mail

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If anyone installs this, I'd be interested to hear if it affects the GPS antenna...or maybe it can't get worse!
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Maybe this is the gps "fix" everyone is waiting for
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Do not buy the acer case!

The morons at Acer designed a case that covers up the microphone (if the mic is truly where other posters have said - located between the screen and the bexel on the upper side!

I will make a little hole for it, since still less modding than trying to fit another case to the A500. Silly miss, none the less.

Might want to be sure about things before you make a bold statement about not buying the case. I'm sitting here with my case on, sitting 3 feet from the mic, in a normal voice said a sentence and it picked up every word clearly and I don't' even have the personalized Google voice recognition on.

I like it, the only thing that I really need to modify on the case is that it is extremely tight, and it covers up the micro SD card slot, so I have to cut the case open where the slot is. It's really difficult to push out of the case so I feel like I'm going to break it one of these times to change the SD card. Other than that it's put together very well.

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I like it, the only thing that I really need to modify on the case is that it is extremely tight, and it covers up the micro SD card slot, so I have to cut the case open where the slot is. It's really difficult to push out of the case so I feel like I'm going to break it one of these times to change the SD card. Other than that it's put together very well.
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I had a very hard time getting the sdcard in, then out when i realized it needed to be formatted first.. I thought the Nook Color was hard to get in. Thats easy compared to this, but until they make other cases, we dont really have a choice.

PDair has made a case now. Expensive but it looks good on the pictures.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=11000659_11001240_11001241

docfreed said:
The morons at Acer designed a case that covers up the microphone (if the mic is truly where other posters have said - located between the screen and the bexel on the upper side!
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I'm on the hunt for a case or cover, so big thanks for the info. I don't want to drop $120 for the pdair one right now either, so the hunt continues...

The only problem I've had with the Acer case is that the device slowly slides out of the bottom because of the orientation, but it's a terribly easy fix.
Mic and everything else have been fine.
Also, smells bad. I'm bringing it around a lot to try and force the smell out.

jai134 said:
PDair has made a case now. Expensive but it looks good on the pictures.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=11000659_11001240_11001241
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Expensive is an understatement... $119?
Give it a few weeks and we will have some Chinese knock-offs that will be better made than the Acer one at half the price.
The Acer case is a nice design; I like the fact that it's thin, tight, with a built-in stand, but it feels like it's made out of some terribly cheap material. I don't expect it to last a long time. A case just like it with better materials and magnetic closure will be a winner for sure.

rorytmeadows said:
The only problem I've had with the Acer case is that the device slowly slides out of the bottom because of the orientation, but it's a terribly easy fix.
Mic and everything else have been fine.
Also, smells bad. I'm bringing it around a lot to try and force the smell out.
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What was your fix for the sliding? I like the case a lot, but the sliding is a peeve...
Simon

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14423744&postcount=14
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No issues here the sliding Is annoying but easy to deal with. Got mine for 39.99
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The ony issue I found to avoid sliding is to invert the use of the tab (cover on the top).

just so you guys know roo case is coming out with some cases that actually look very nice
http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Execu...IV6E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1308375584&sr=8-4
This is the one i'm waiting for

yakafaucon said:
The ony issue I found to avoid sliding is to invert the use of the tab (cover on the top).
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That's what i did also, some apps dont like it but generally its ok.. The smell is funny though.
I bring it around and people are like, what the hell is that smell... (it's new electronics...)

for me the biggest gripe is how hard it is to get the tablet out 9f the case. to the point that i'm scared of damaging the screen of the tablet by pressing it too hard to take it off the case :/
the second one would be the smell

Does anybody know EXACLTY where the recording mic is?
I plan to do some 'Rocket Surgery' to access the mike and the MicroSD card slot.

docfreed said:
The morons at Acer designed a case that covers up the microphone (if the mic is truly where other posters have said - located between the screen and the bexel on the upper side!
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Well they DID copy the Apple case from the iPad I believe.....

yakafaucon said:
The ony issue I found to avoid sliding is to invert the use of the tab (cover on the top).
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I used a piece of 3M double sided tape, they kind they sell for the various wall hooks that can be removed. It isn't perfect but it seems to have made a fair improvement dealing with the sliding.
I'm going to try the TPD case as well, since I ordered it before I tried the double sided tape, so we'll see where I finally settle.

Bad smell fix
I agree the smell of the case hits you like a ton of bricks at first - and the Acer case is a dust magnet.
Simple fix - wipe the entire case down with a warm wet sponge. No longer picks up every piece of dust / dirt it encounters and the smell dramatically decreases. The smell also goes completely away after a week or so.
Still looking for a good case with a potrait stand as I have a couple of apps that require it or just look better that way. Anyone got a tip for me?