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Hi.
Is there any info about HTC releasing official 6.5.3 update for Topaz?
I wouldn't be counting on it. Topaz came with 6.1 and they provided an upgrade to 6.5. Usually, one upgrade is about all you get.
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I wouldn't be counting on it. Topaz came with 6.1 and they provided an upgrade to 6.5. Usually, one upgrade is about all you get.
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hmm wondering about the pure getting 6.5.3 though .. it started with 6.5.1
BUT!!!!!! WinMo 7.... Just wait and you'll see
This information is more than intuition.......
I have no doubt that WM7 will be heavier than 6.5, which is already the limit for what the D2 can handle. So, maybe there will be some kind chef willing to cook it for D2, but will it be acceptable for every day use?
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I have no doubt that WM7 will be heavier than 6.5, which is already the limit for what the D2 can handle. So, maybe there will be some kind chef willing to cook it for D2, but will it be acceptable for every day use?
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I think the complete opposite. The iphone has set a very high bar. It works very smoothly and that too with a processor under 1 Ghz and no obscene amounts of RAM. The WinMo7 has to at the very least match it, if not beat it.
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I think the complete opposite. The iphone has set a very high bar. It works very smoothly and that too with a processor under 1 Ghz and no obscene amounts of RAM. The WinMo7 has to at the very least match it, if not beat it.
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This can be done pretty easily. They just have to go without multitasking functionality. But do you really want that?
I don't ever have Solitaire, Opera, File Explorer, and Word Mobile open at one time. It's a battery-powered mobile device with limited memory and a power-frugal processor.
Yes, I do want that. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I want to to that as well as the iPhone does it. Only I don't want it to come with a 2 year £40 per month contract, like the iPhone does
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This can be done pretty easily. They just have to go without multitasking functionality. But do you really want that?
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Very good point! I most certainly don't want that!
They could also make limited multitasking functionaly, I mean that they could limit the number of programs that can be opened at once, and when I bought my Topaz in the specifications it was clearly mentioned that I will get a free upgrade to WM7, so I think that we will have an official upgrade in the future.
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...when I bought my Topaz in the specifications it was clearly mentioned that I will get a free upgrade to WM7
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are you sure? never seen that in any advert. maybe orange did some marketing tricks. as everybody pointed out, HTC never releases 2 generations of ROMs for same device. anyway, by the time WM 7 will be out and stable, people will start looking at another bunch of devices to upgrade. I for sure am not going to keep my device longer than the warranty.
It could be a marketing thing.
i'm fairly sure windows 7 has defined hardware specs, and the TD2 comes nowhere near them. Of the current phones, only the HD2 does. And that would mean there would definitley be no WM7 on the TD2
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i'm fairly sure windows 7 has defined hardware specs, and the TD2 comes nowhere near them. Of the current phones, only the HD2 does. And that would mean there would definitley be no WM7 on the TD2
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I doubt that, I do think that TD2 will run WM7 just fine, you underestimate the power of the "tool" you're using
No Update
Its most unlikely there will be an official update to windows phone 7.
Hardware requirements (source HTC Russia) state the device has to have:
Demand TD2
•1Ghz processor NO
•3.6 inch WVGA display NO
•G-sensor and compas NO
•8GB internal memory NO
•5MP camera YES
So there will be no official update.
Problably it will be ported to our device by the community.
Mmmm...
I have to agree... if we get an official WM7 update for TD2, I'll gladly eat my device and post the video on YouTube for all to see! However, the spec requirement is high, but if anyone has noticed, Windows 7 uses far less resources than Vista. If it follows that WM7 will follow this trend, may be our 'old' devices will be able to handle the new OS?
I would imagine the chasis specs were seeing are not so much for the OS to run on, but so MS can go to developers, especially games developers and say to them that WM7 will be running on this hardware as a minimum so target your games for this.
Currently the WM6 devices are over a broad range fo processor speeds, memory, resoloutions and differing addons (GPS, Accelerometer, graphics chips, compass, capacitive screen) that it is impossible to get the kind of one program runs on all that you get in the iphone community.
You could cook WM7 to run on this hardware, but I can't see it going beyond proof of concept as a lot of the software will be pitched at higher resources and the lack of compass/capacative screen may hold back some feateures.
Besides, by the time it hits the streets... why would I want to still be using a TD2. I'll want a TD3 at that point ;-)
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They could also make limited multitasking functionaly, I mean that they could limit the number of programs that can be opened at once
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It can already only run 32 processes at once, and a large amount of those are already taken.
I've questioned someone from HTC and he said that it hasn't been discussed if there will be future ROM development for WM7, so we will have to wait and see.
Lost the plot here, what about 6.5.3 official.....
I would like the ability to move the widgets around
Any news about that?
the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen
anxifer said:
the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen
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Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?
Euroman28 said:
Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?
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I don't think, that HTC has given up on the HD2, yet.
This tweet might be of interest.
to everyone asking about HD2 & Windows Phone 7 Series; nothing announced yet but there may be info coming next month
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http://twitter.com/windowsphone/status/9181323569
...either there will be a statement about HD2 being "transformed" into a WP7S-device with an update, or HTC might tell us that they have prepared WM 6.5.x for the HD2
Nobody knows yet....but I don't think HTC has "left us"
The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...
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The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...
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What I seriously think is that there is a chance, that we will get a WM 6.5.3 update.
Yes, it's been 3 weeks since the last ROM, and so? The ROM before that was released in the beginning of December, so about 7 weeks.
...and when is MIX'10? In about a month....so why does this sound so wrong? Especially if the US models get the 6.5.3 ROM, then it wouldn't be so hard to make a version for the unbranded HD2
But yes, we don't know what might og might not happen
if they want to update hd2 to 6.5.3 they would have updated it in the 1.66 roms i think the next update will not be 6.5.3
they really should make an update because there are still so many unsolved issues that really annoy us users (sms lag, ...). Maybe they are already working on it and it will be released when there is a stable version of the newest windows build.
What about win6.5.3 combine with the new version of sense ?
Arent we due WM6.6 soon?
Starfury said:
Arent we due WM6.6 soon?
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We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred
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We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred
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If we believe HTC on twitter:
'for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned. Of the existing communicators on the market, only the HD2 firmware to get WM7'
think you better keep your friday nights free towards the end of the year when the OS is eventually released!!!
i think that 6.5.3 update can be a concrete possibility....i don't want to believe that Htc could leave us without this update....
UPDATE!! Looks like this was not true and there will be no WP7 for HD2 at all.
There is still hope, you can help deciphering & hacking WP7 image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
(if you really want WP7S on your beloved HD2, for me this whole new OS looks more like EPIC FAIL)
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
We can only hope i suppose =/
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Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
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this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
hoss_n2 said:
this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
Makes pretty good sense, actually. It fits with all the 'wait for MIX10' answers to questions about the HD2 right after the WP7 announcement in Barcelona.
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
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now it is better
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
May just be me but the WP7 posts are getting a little bit boring and shouldn't they be in there Windows Phone 7 Series forum? Rather than having multi threads on essentially the same things.
Plus we get to buy all our apps . . . again.
Let's hope for a port anyway, whether official or not...
I'd like to believe you, but the MS devs were raving about the emulator that comes with the Phone developer tools... I dunno. Seems iffy but the existence of an emulator does not preclude the HD2 from getting a 'MIX' build - after all, you need to have the emulator around for a variety of reasons, namely the HD2 won't be available forever
im also watching mix10 and as far as i remember i heared somthing like "all of you who will have an wp7s device at the end of the conference".
could be the special dev-phone, as some folks guess, but i think an hd2 rom is the easiest and the most logical solution.
So i "guess" its possible. and by the way, i excpected silverlight for mobile for months and now its there and i like it.
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
Frostlance said:
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
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So you already said on the 1st page...
Multitasking from the emulator itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5889815
mazzarin said:
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
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Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
VisualD said:
Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
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these specifications are higher than hd2 specifications (impossible port)
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
XDA mark said:
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
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we are fu**ed (hd2 owners ) with these specifications ,no way we could get it nither officia nor leaked , most of the specifications are not included in hd2 ( camera button , direct x9 , 4 point multitouch ,etc )iam so sad and disapointed my new toy is fuc**n old now wtf. what a short aged device ,i will go for desire tomorrow inspite of the big loss in money
Guys, check out the new Windows Mobile 7 ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5gpMf2--w
Check from 00:26 to 00:29. We can clearly see the unmistakable 'htc' logo and the 5 hardware buttons of HD2.
dnwizard said:
Guys, check out the new Windows Mobile 7 ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5gpMf2--w
Check from 00:26 to 00:29. We can clearly see the unmistakable 'htc' logo and the 5 hardware buttons of HD2.
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it is hd2 but no use of this thread it is confirmed to not have wp7
can't see it... but the lil guy is kinda playing with an HD2!!!
I think your right, it does look like a HD2, of course it doesn't mean ****, as with most advertisements it will all be fabricated, its probably just a HD2 running a video of series 7. Will wind people up nicely though
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it is hd2 but no use of this thread it is confirmed to not have wp7
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Yes, but I was just intrigued to see the new OS running fine even though it lacks some major hardware as per Microsoft.
However on the off chance that it is running something live it does mean there is some form of test rom out there....somewhere. . . . . but i doubt it
Silverlight app.
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Yes, but I was just intrigued to see the new OS running fine even though it lacks some major hardware as per Microsoft.
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Except that there are 99% chances the phone is actually off and dead or displaying a plain blue screen to allow image blending in postprocessing
i dont think that the pictures you see on the screen are real. usaly such things are made in post production. its much to complicated to film this situations in real life. so i think its no indicator for w7 ore not on hd2 anyhow.
regards mad
As much as I hate to up a not-so-useful thread
The idea is old... there has been a link posted somewhere here on the hd2 forums to a MS stage or something (and that was at least a month ago), where an infomercial for WM7 was done with a girl holding to her ear what definitely looked like an hd2, or at least a photoshopped one.
That doesn't bring you anywhere, since we have had different news elsewhere from an "official" source (check the other thread reagrding it) saying othrwise that WM7 will not be for hd2.
Anyhow, if you are so desperate to install a MS iphoneos wannabe on your already perfectly working WM6.5 hd2, I think there will be for sure a cooked rom with WM7 sooner or later. Afterall they are selling on aftermarket qtek 2020 alpines with winmo 6.5 on them....
It's Bill Gates, pissing in our collective ear: "Nyah, nyah; that'll teach you fellas to have two extra buttons".
to me is not looking like HD2 but if it's indeed HD2 for sure will be a rom for it here
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.
I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!
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I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!
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May I aks you why are you so sure? Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?
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May I aks you why are you so sure?
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because MS want everyone to buy shiny new wp7 phones.
Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?
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If T Mo US want to fork out a fat fist full of cash to MS, they might, but i'd give REALLY big odds that they wont. Why would they? they have sold out in the first week, thats their investment back, now all they have to do is sit back, wait for wp7 and start the whole circus again.
No one is going to offer upgrades, I suspect. The only way forward as i see it for 6.5.x is as a side line to the wp7. Maybe the 'business' range, alongside wp7 as the consumer range.
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Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.
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I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.
Oh that sucks, ah well, that what you brilliant people are here for lol
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I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.
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That does it for me, now i'm realy going to flash my device!
I have waited for a new HTC ROM update and wanted at least 6.5.3 on my device or even better 6.5.5... SO!
AND flashing gives me a faster better device, so! Thanks! And THANKS HTC!
I sent message to HTC. I asked when we get a new WM 6.5.3 on our HTC HD 2. They wrote me that they nothing know about new ROM updates for HD2.... So we must waiting, but if we don't get new WM from HTC in near future I flash my HD2
What is the point of these builds then? the only phone i know which will have it is that nasty sony ericsson trying to be a blackberry.
Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...
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Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...
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I think they are aming for us to buy the new WinMo 7 phones...
I'll be surprised if there isn't another ROM release. The stock carrier ROMs are quite a way behind those on unlocked phones for a start and I imagine there's a risk of losing customers to the competition if support isn't seen to be provided. My guess is that the various 'flavours'' of HD2 will be updated so that they have the same OS and applications.
Windows Phone 7 doesn't look appealing to me and if I want a locked down phone, I'll get an iPhone.
What does the updates do?
what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.
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what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.
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This topic has nothing to do with WM7, This is about 6.5.3 which is an updated version of 6.5. Let not turn this into a 7.0 discussion.
Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?
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Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?
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They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?
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They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?
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Isn't that the point... WP7 will eventually lead to WP8, it's a moving target. If you want 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 you can install a cooked ROM that has it. The great thing is that... MS is continuing to develop the 6.5.X series and... the cooks are getting it to us.
My point isn't the inevitability of Windows Phone8, it's a question of how long 7 will be supported. Manufacturers seem to have forgotten that users have contracts with their phones and will need to keep them for 2 years or more before upgrading. The HD2 had very little support, leaving owners of this flagship device with an out-of-date machine after a few months. Other phone suppliers continue to provide upgrades to their ranges. I won't forget this when I need a new phone, especially since my phone still has bugs. HTC will lose customers. Whether they care about this or not is another matter but I'd aim to keep my customers in the current climate, even if I only sell each of them one phone every 2 years.
I'm waiting for a reply to my bug report.
We should all make some pressure on HTC.Send them e-mails, post on blogs, contact newspapers, etc etc...
HTC should change this their bad support. We buy a 600$ device and get a 6 month support, no upgrades (only bugfixes, and not for all bugs).
This is not what people expect from a company such as HTC.